Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2010-03-23 Thread Manuel Prinz
Am Sonntag, den 21.03.2010, 12:49 +0100 schrieb Thibaut Paumard: I am about to upload a new package which build-depends on mpi-default- dev (it will need to be checked by a sponsor and then go through NEW). It it ok to do so in the next couple of days or should I wait for the new

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2010-03-21 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Hi, I am about to upload a new package which build-depends on mpi-default- dev (it will need to be checked by a sponsor and then go through NEW). It it ok to do so in the next couple of days or should I wait for the new mpi-default-dev? Regards, Thibaut. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2010-03-16 Thread Adam C Powell IV
tags 563705 +patch thanks Hi and apologies for the long delay... On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 14:55 -0500, Adam C Powell IV wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 20:22 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 26/02/10 at 10:46 -0500, Adam C Powell IV wrote: On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 20:49 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:

Re: Bug#563705: MPI implementations in squeeze

2010-02-26 Thread Sylvestre Ledru
Le vendredi 26 février 2010 à 09:54 +, Alastair McKinstry a écrit : Perhaps using pkg-config (an mpi.pc file) would be a better solution to this; it is more standard: the mpicc, etc. approach isn't very scalable, you can't wrap every complex library. Use mpi.pc to point to where

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2010-02-26 Thread Adam C Powell IV
On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 20:49 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 25/02/10 at 14:22 -0500, Adam C Powell IV wrote: On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 18:10 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: There is not much progress so far with respect to changing mpi-defaults to use MPICH2 instead of LAM on the

Re: Bug#563705: MPI implementations in squeeze

2010-02-26 Thread Adam C Powell IV
On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 11:21 +0100, Sylvestre Ledru wrote: Le vendredi 26 février 2010 à 09:54 +, Alastair McKinstry a écrit : Perhaps using pkg-config (an mpi.pc file) would be a better solution to this; it is more standard: the mpicc, etc. approach isn't very scalable, you can't

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2010-02-26 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 26/02/10 at 10:46 -0500, Adam C Powell IV wrote: On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 20:49 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 25/02/10 at 14:22 -0500, Adam C Powell IV wrote: On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 18:10 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: There is not much progress so far with respect to changing

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2010-02-25 Thread Manuel Prinz
Hi all, this is a short status update on this topic. Am Montag, den 09.11.2009, 16:47 -0800 schrieb Nicholas Breen: * should we start filing wishlist bugs asking packagers not to build against MPICH (1) and LAM? I (finally) got around to file bugs against all packages build-depending on

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2010-02-25 Thread Adam C Powell IV
On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 18:10 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: There is not much progress so far with respect to changing mpi-defaults to use MPICH2 instead of LAM on the architectures where Open MPI is not available yet. This needs a round of binNMUs. Marc Brockschmidt said he will look at

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2010-01-27 Thread Drew Parsons
On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 15:46 +0100, Manuel Prinz wrote: Am Montag, den 28.12.2009, 14:08 +0100 schrieb Lucas Nussbaum: OK, let's do that. We can always revisit this decision after the squeeze release, but it's important to have something sane for squeeze. Sylvestre, can you take the lead

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2010-01-04 Thread Manuel Prinz
Am Sonntag, den 03.01.2010, 23:26 +0100 schrieb Michael Banck: If one still wants to have a non-MPI package as well, is there a preferred suffix for the mpi package using the default? foo-mpi? There is no policy on that (yet) but your suggestion seems very reasonable. Best regards Manuel --

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2010-01-03 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:11:49PM -0800, Nicholas Breen wrote: If you just want one MPI package, it should be enough to Build-Depend on mpi-default-dev and perform a build of your package with whatever flags are necessary -- which ideally should be something simple like configure --enable-mpi

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2009-12-03 Thread Drew Parsons
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 11:31 +0100, Manuel Prinz wrote: Am Montag, den 30.11.2009, 22:11 -0800 schrieb Nicholas Breen: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 03:49:20PM +1100, Drew Parsons wrote: From the point of view of a client package, what is now best practice for working with MPI? Is there a

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2009-12-01 Thread Manuel Prinz
Am Montag, den 30.11.2009, 22:11 -0800 schrieb Nicholas Breen: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 03:49:20PM +1100, Drew Parsons wrote: From the point of view of a client package, what is now best practice for working with MPI? Is there a website/wiki/document explaining how to set up an MPI-using

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2009-12-01 Thread Manuel Prinz
Am Montag, den 09.11.2009, 16:47 -0800 schrieb Nicholas Breen: * should we start filing wishlist bugs asking packagers not to build against MPICH (1) and LAM? If noone objects by the end of the week, I will file the bugs then. The number of affected packages is really low and the severity

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2009-12-01 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 01/12/09 at 11:33 +0100, Manuel Prinz wrote: Am Montag, den 09.11.2009, 16:47 -0800 schrieb Nicholas Breen: * should we start filing wishlist bugs asking packagers not to build against MPICH (1) and LAM? If noone objects by the end of the week, I will file the bugs then. The

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2009-12-01 Thread Sylvestre Ledru
Le mardi 01 décembre 2009 à 21:20 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : On 01/12/09 at 11:33 +0100, Manuel Prinz wrote: Am Montag, den 09.11.2009, 16:47 -0800 schrieb Nicholas Breen: * should we start filing wishlist bugs asking packagers not to build against MPICH (1) and LAM? If

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2009-12-01 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 11:31:02AM +0100, Manuel Prinz wrote: Am Montag, den 30.11.2009, 22:11 -0800 schrieb Nicholas Breen: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 03:49:20PM +1100, Drew Parsons wrote: From the point of view of a client package, what is now best practice for working with MPI? Is there

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2009-12-01 Thread Drew Parsons
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 00:48 +0100, Manuel Prinz wrote: Am Dienstag, den 01.12.2009, 21:20 +0100 schrieb Lucas Nussbaum: While I would be fine with that, there are other possible plans: (2) use MPICH2 as default everywhere (it is supported on all release archs). Clearly, the package

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2009-11-30 Thread Drew Parsons
I understand the final state of the modern Debian infrastructure for MPI is now in place (modulo the questions around deprecating MPICH and LAM). That is, the disruptive Open MPI transition is now complete, correct? From the point of view of a client package, what is now best practice for working

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2009-11-30 Thread Nicholas Breen
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 03:49:20PM +1100, Drew Parsons wrote: I understand the final state of the modern Debian infrastructure for MPI is now in place (modulo the questions around deprecating MPICH and LAM). That is, the disruptive Open MPI transition is now complete, correct? Yes, so far as I

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2009-11-11 Thread Manuel Prinz
Gee, I should stop posting past a certain hour of the day… ;) On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 18:08 -0500, Adam C Powell IV wrote: The .so alternatives symlinks only require that the libraries be API-compatible, which they are (or if not, it's a bug, since they're supposed to follow the MPI standard).

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2009-11-10 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:19:11AM -0500, Adam C Powell IV wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 16:47 -0800, Nicholas Breen wrote: * is it too late in the release cycle to propose this as a release goal? should squeeze+1 be the target instead? squeeze+2? I think it's too late for squeeze, but

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2009-11-10 Thread Adam C Powell IV
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:27 +0100, Michael Banck wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:19:11AM -0500, Adam C Powell IV wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 16:47 -0800, Nicholas Breen wrote: * is it too late in the release cycle to propose this as a release goal? should squeeze+1 be the target

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2009-11-10 Thread Manuel Prinz
Am Dienstag, den 10.11.2009, 09:19 -0500 schrieb Adam C Powell IV: * in mpi-defaults, should MPICH2 replace LAM for architectures not supported by OpenMPI? I think that would make a lot of sense since LAM is end-of-life. Filed as bug #555653, so we won't forget about that. We should

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2009-11-10 Thread Adam C Powell IV
I generally agree, just a quick nit-pick/clarification: On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 20:56 +0100, Manuel Prinz wrote: * Alternatives need to be fixed. Besides what the bugs that Nicholas referenced say, there are two other issues with those: First, the priorities do not match

MPI implementations in squeeze

2009-11-09 Thread Nicholas Breen
With the recent upload of MPICH2, we now have four separate MPI implementations in the archive: two with active upstreams and maintainers (MPICH2, OpenMPI) and two on terminal life support (MPICH, LAM). There's been some preliminary discussion before about dropping the latter two [1], though

Re: MPI implementations in squeeze

2009-11-09 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 04:47:27PM -0800, Nicholas Breen wrote: [3] build-deps on: lam4-devlibmpich1.0-dev libopenmpi-dev ... tree-puzzle yes no no Just uploaded tree-puzzle builded agianst libopenmpi-dev. Kind regards Andreas. --