Re: pandas: Python 2 removal, 0.23 -> 0.25 transition
Hi Rebecca, Personally I fully support the option (a). Afterall nobody likes taking extra burden especially when there is no upstream support anymore. (b) is for good wish but impractical. (c) means we just let pandas package rot and die. Even if some portion of users still need the python2 package, they could still rely on pypi for some time. On 2019-10-27 11:01, Rebecca N. Palmer wrote: > Python 3.8 is being added (#942106). pandas <0.25 does not support > Python 3.8[0] (when Ubuntu tried they got 268 test failures [1]), > while pandas>=0.25 does not support Python 2. > > Hence, our options are: > (a) Remove python-pandas and upgrade pandas to 0.25 > (b) Split pandas into two source packages (like matplotlib) so we can > have python-pandas 0.23 and python3-pandas 0.25 > (c) Let pandas be broken on 3.8 for now > I currently favour (a), but this is still open for discussion. > > pandas is currently in a big strongly connected component [2], but it > looks possible to cut it out of that tangle without actually breaking > anything, by removing these 2 build-dependencies: > matplotlib2 (only uses pandas in examples/tests) > python-apptools (only uses pandas in H5TableNode which (according to > codesearch) nothing uses) > > This leaves the following needing to drop Python 2 before pandas can: > > Already supports Python 3: > bcolz > mdp > patsy > python-biom-format > scikit-learn > statsmodels (my package, will deal with it when its dependencies are cleared) > > Need a new upstream version to support Python 3: > metaphlan2 > psychopy > pymvpa2 (upstream say they don't test this, but the package already > fails its tests) > stimfit > tnseq-transit (needs new dependency pypubsub, in NEW) > > Also, the move from pandas 0.23 to 0.25 involves API changes [3], and > hence may break some reverse dependencies. I haven't tested this yet, > but if you maintain a pandas reverse dependency that has a newer > upstream version available, this might be a good time to package it. > > To simplify such testing, I hope to upload pandas 0.25 to experimental today. > > [0] https://github.com/pandas-dev/pandas/issues/29043 > [1] > https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-focal/focal/amd64/p/pandas/20191024_181815_7c017@/log.gz > [2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2019/10/msg00092.html (not > quite that big since we started ignoring Suggests, but still not > something to remove just yet) > [3] https://pandas.pydata.org/pandas-docs/stable/whatsnew/index.html#release
Re: pandas: Python 2 removal, 0.23 -> 0.25 transition
Hi, ne 27. 10. 2019 v 12:33 odesílatel Rebecca N. Palmer < rebecca_pal...@zoho.com> napsal: > Hence, our options are: > (a) Remove python-pandas and upgrade pandas to 0.25 > (b) Split pandas into two source packages (like matplotlib) so we can > have python-pandas 0.23 and python3-pandas 0.25 > (c) Let pandas be broken on 3.8 for now > I currently favour (a), but this is still open for discussion. > +1 for (a). Imho we are still far away from next stable release a this breakage is feasible. -- Best regards Ondřej Nový
pandas: Python 2 removal, 0.23 -> 0.25 transition
Python 3.8 is being added (#942106). pandas <0.25 does not support Python 3.8[0] (when Ubuntu tried they got 268 test failures [1]), while pandas>=0.25 does not support Python 2. Hence, our options are: (a) Remove python-pandas and upgrade pandas to 0.25 (b) Split pandas into two source packages (like matplotlib) so we can have python-pandas 0.23 and python3-pandas 0.25 (c) Let pandas be broken on 3.8 for now I currently favour (a), but this is still open for discussion. pandas is currently in a big strongly connected component [2], but it looks possible to cut it out of that tangle without actually breaking anything, by removing these 2 build-dependencies: matplotlib2 (only uses pandas in examples/tests) python-apptools (only uses pandas in H5TableNode which (according to codesearch) nothing uses) This leaves the following needing to drop Python 2 before pandas can: Already supports Python 3: bcolz mdp patsy python-biom-format scikit-learn statsmodels (my package, will deal with it when its dependencies are cleared) Need a new upstream version to support Python 3: metaphlan2 psychopy pymvpa2 (upstream say they don't test this, but the package already fails its tests) stimfit tnseq-transit (needs new dependency pypubsub, in NEW) Also, the move from pandas 0.23 to 0.25 involves API changes [3], and hence may break some reverse dependencies. I haven't tested this yet, but if you maintain a pandas reverse dependency that has a newer upstream version available, this might be a good time to package it. To simplify such testing, I hope to upload pandas 0.25 to experimental today. [0] https://github.com/pandas-dev/pandas/issues/29043 [1] https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-focal/focal/amd64/p/pandas/20191024_181815_7c017@/log.gz [2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2019/10/msg00092.html (not quite that big since we started ignoring Suggests, but still not something to remove just yet) [3] https://pandas.pydata.org/pandas-docs/stable/whatsnew/index.html#release
