Re: RFC: wnpp bugs tagging
Alle 14:21, mer 12 marzo 2008, Andreas Tille ha scritto: On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, Luca Brivio wrote: Yeah, I'm been doing this with a few RFPs, this is a best practise for me. Of course there are two problems: 1) Many interested persons aren't subscribed to (all) the relevant mailing lists (think of new maintainers, and so on). Right. They probably are not subscribed because their time scale does not allow to follow the list. If this is the reason they most probably will also refuse to pick up a RFP bug and do not need to be informed anyway. Or they weren't subscribed when the mail was posted, or they are people from Ubuntu... :-) It is indeed (together with set lists of tags, perhaps policies, etc.). There's just a difference between people each tagging their own bugs and me tagging those left untagged by others. :-) I agree that tagging is a really omportant thing. But tagging alone does not really help if people do not check WNPP for tags that are set. The tags are only relevant for those people who are querying the BTS for tags which means tags are a source of information who actively seek for it. But my aproach to push information to people by sending a mail to those who are potentially interested will reach those who are not actively running a query against BTS. Yes. OTOH, pre-defined queries are really useful things to link from website static and wiki pages, which isn't actively querying. Your approach is of course a very efficient one and doesn't need any replacement. Alright. So we maybe should let external contributors put data on the wiki and then remove them once they have been added to tasks. Including a disclaimer about this in the wiki pages would be really useful! and I can do it myself. This sounds like a reasonable idea. There should just be a hint in the wiki to verify that the project you would like to mention is not yet included in the auto generated page. Maybe I'll create a template (from existing pages) including this hint. -- Luca signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: RFC: wnpp bugs tagging
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, Luca Brivio wrote: I'd strongly vote for using debian-science list as the user because IMHO we need a specific group of Debian maintainers who care about this specific topic and this brings things in focus on the right list. You might have a look at the CDD documentation how to ITP[1]. Well, you can guess my purpose is slightly different, say Debian-wide, as tags I've listed show. Yes, but you was posting to debian-science list and because I assumed you did this on purpose instead of posting to debian-devel I gave a comment from my debian-science perspective. Therefore i think different users can be suitable to different purposes. I've listed show. Therefore i think different users can be suitable to different purposes. I just learned that RFPs are most promising if you try to reach people who have a direct interest in the topic of the package. So if I would like to RFP a game I would foreward this to a games related mailing list, if the package is about science I try to inform debian-science and if it is about medicine/biology I try to involve people reading debian-med mailing list. It is a question of pushing the information to a place where it might be relevant. If you think the package is relevant on more than one mailing list, keep both CCed. I'm not sure the latter couldn't be the case. For instance, I might help with tags, when I'm not really too busy. Of course we'd need an easy way to track ITPs and RFPs. Hmmm, perhaps I missed the point in your original mail, but I thought qour intention would be tagging the ITP/RFP bugs. Until now, I've been adding software to DebianScience* wiki pages, like Charles often did. If I understood Charles right he just used the Wiki because it was much easier to keep up to date than the wml in Debian web CVS. Since there is a chance to auto generate up to date pages easily form a single source of information (the tasks files) he agreed to use this because it seems to me the most efficient way to present all our knowledge about software we have and we would like to have. Anyway if I can help doing simple things, I will, as far as I have time. Well, checking WNPP for ITPs/RFPs that are relevant for debian-science sounds simple and at least forewarding this to the list is easy. I must learn to use Subversion, too. :-) Well, a patch is welcome too, but SVN is not that hard to learn. (Trust me, I was reluctant myself. ;-) ) Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFC: wnpp bugs tagging
Alle 15:06, mar 11 marzo 2008, hai scritto: I think that having bits of information which are useful for all Debian developer tagged with the same user makes them *more* useful. See [3]. I'd strongly vote for using debian-science list as the user because IMHO we need a specific group of Debian maintainers who care about this specific topic and this brings things in focus on the right list. You might have a look at the CDD documentation how to ITP[1]. Well, you can guess my purpose is slightly different, say Debian-wide, as tags I've listed show. Therefore i think different users can be suitable to different purposes. I've listed show. Therefore i think different users can be suitable to different purposes. In the Debian-Med project I learned that most ITPers (including me from time to time) forget to tag their ITPs. While this is a shame in principle we have to face this as a given fact that you can only change by closely watching WNPP and do the tagging on behalf of them. I'm not sure the latter couldn't be the case. For instance, I might help with tags, when I'm not really too busy. Of course we'd need an easy way to track ITPs and RFPs. Recently I decided that the Debian-Med tasks packages do perhaps a better job in listing all interesting software for a specific topic because we can list software inside and outside Debian. For instance have a look at http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/tasks/bio.php or http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/tasks/imaging.php which contains a list (including meta information) which at the end has prospective packages with links to WNPP if such a bug exists. If the bug does not exist the entry has useful information to file a WNPP bug. I just explained in [2] how to get such a list for Debian-Science but unfortunately nobody asked for SVN commit rights to actually do the job of adding projects to the tasks files. As I said in several previous mails: If you want some closer working together as a Debian-Science team some work has to be done ... Until now, I've been adding software to DebianScience* wiki pages, like Charles often did. Anyway if I can help doing simple things, I will, as far as I have time. I must learn to use Subversion, too. :-) -- Luca signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
