Bug#836844: eigen3: autopkgtests fail on ppc64el

2016-12-01 Thread Roger
On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 18:04:28 +0200 Graham Inggs  wrote:
> Control: reopen -1
> 
> I've just checked eigen3 3.3.0-1 on plummer.debian.org, and it still outputs
> 
> forceMatrix*axisMatrix: -1  0  0
>  0 -2  0
>  0  0 -3
> 
> 
I have checked with current dev. tree and problem remains
I have tried compiler g++-4.9 and g++-5 and g++-6 and all are providing
same error on ppc64le
On x86_64 using g++-5 there is no error.

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Re: r-cran-spdep_0.6-4-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2016-05-31 Thread Roger Bivand
I've now spent three hours complying, IMHO far more than was sensible. The 
questioned code is gone, despite my not agreeing with your complaints, nor 
seeing that you were willing to contribute a replacement. Check out spdep 
from R-Forge, and reply rapidly confirming that no further changes are 
needed.


Roger


On Mon, 30 May 2016, Andreas Tille wrote:


Hi Roger,

On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 05:51:57PM +0200, Roger Bivand wrote:

Please tell them that I am not willing to make any further changes. If they
bothered to look, they would have seen that the functions are not simply
copied from arm.c, but modified to use double rather than integer
coordinates. I can add arm.c for documentation and change the soigraph.c
function names to show that they are modified from those in arm.c, but I do
not see the point.


I think the point is pretty clear:  Its no question that you changed
something but if you have permission to change the existing files is the
basic question.  To quote again:

  This book is in copyright. (...) no reproduction of any part may take
  place without the written permission of Cambridge University Press.

So did you got the written permission of  Cambridge University Press?
If yes, could you please attach a copy of this permission to the code.

Kind regards

  Andreas.


Best wishes,

Roger

On Mon, 30 May 2016, Andreas Tille wrote:


Hi again Roger,

this is just a ping in case you might have missed my last mail about the
licensing of the file copied from "Computational Geometry in C".  Were
you able to clarify the issue or to rewrite the code in question?

Thanks for your cooperation

 Andreas.

On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 05:26:09PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:

Hi Roger,

I'm afraid I need to come back to you again about the licensing of the
file in question in the spdep package.  Please read below what the
Debian ftpmasters think about the license:

On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 01:00:23PM +, Thorsten Alteholz wrote:


Hi Andreas,

ok, one step further, but two questions remain:

- "... in its entirety ...", not being a native speaker, but for me that
 sounds like you are only allowed to distribute the whole example code
 and are not allowed to use just parts of it
- anyway, the main point is that you are only allowed to redistribute
 the code but have no permission to modify it, which is against DFSG 3.

 Thorsten


I'm sorry that this is such a longish process bit it would be really
cool if you could have another look or try to contact the authors (or
rewrite this code? - I think in some previous conversation you wrote
about this option as well).

Kind regards and thanks for your cooperation

 Andreas.

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Re: r-cran-spdep_0.6-4-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2016-05-30 Thread Roger Bivand

Hi Andreas,

Please tell them that I am not willing to make any further changes. If 
they bothered to look, they would have seen that the functions are not 
simply copied from arm.c, but modified to use double rather than integer 
coordinates. I can add arm.c for documentation and change the soigraph.c 
function names to show that they are modified from those in arm.c, but I 
do not see the point.


Best wishes,

Roger

On Mon, 30 May 2016, Andreas Tille wrote:


Hi again Roger,

this is just a ping in case you might have missed my last mail about the
licensing of the file copied from "Computational Geometry in C".  Were
you able to clarify the issue or to rewrite the code in question?

Thanks for your cooperation

  Andreas.

On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 05:26:09PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:

Hi Roger,

I'm afraid I need to come back to you again about the licensing of the
file in question in the spdep package.  Please read below what the
Debian ftpmasters think about the license:

On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 01:00:23PM +, Thorsten Alteholz wrote:


Hi Andreas,

ok, one step further, but two questions remain:

- "... in its entirety ...", not being a native speaker, but for me that
  sounds like you are only allowed to distribute the whole example code
  and are not allowed to use just parts of it
- anyway, the main point is that you are only allowed to redistribute
  the code but have no permission to modify it, which is against DFSG 3.

  Thorsten


I'm sorry that this is such a longish process bit it would be really
cool if you could have another look or try to contact the authors (or
rewrite this code? - I think in some previous conversation you wrote
about this option as well).

Kind regards and thanks for your cooperation

  Andreas.

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Re: Comments regarding r-cran-spdep_0.5-92-1_amd64.changes

2016-04-04 Thread Roger Bivand

Hi Andreas,

I have added:

/*
This code is described in "Computational Geometry in C" (Second Edition),
Chapter 8.  It is not written to be comprehensible without the
explanation in that book.

Prints out one arm configuration to reach given target.
Assumes number of links >= 3.
Input:
   nlinks   Number of links
   L1 L2 ... Ln Link lengths
   x0 y0target0
   x1 x2target1
   ...

Written by Joseph O'Rourke.
Last modified: December 1997
Questions to orou...@cs.smith.edu.

This code is Copyright 1998 by Joseph O'Rourke.  It may be freely
redistributed in its entirety provided that this copyright notice is
not removed.

*/

to spdep/src/soigraph.c (committed to R-forge, will be released when the 
next release occurs). This is the comment at the top of arm.c from:


http://cs.smith.edu/~orourke/CGCode/SecondEdition/Ccode2.tar.gz

which is the author's code distribution site, and is more relevant than 
the printed text of the book. We've used the same approach in sp/src/pip.c 
for over ten years without attracting Debian's ire.


Nicholas and I understood in 2001 that ... may be freely redistributed ... 
could reasonably be taken as permission to include and redistribute these 
small functions.


Do you want me to revisit the separate packaging of data sets?

Best wishes,

Roger

On Mon, 4 Apr 2016, Andreas Tille wrote:


Hi Roger,

I hope you remember the discussion we had two years ago when I tried to
package spdep for Debian as a dependency to test some R epipdemiology
tools.  I somehow gave up since the packages can be run with out spdep.
However, we have now some bioinformatics tools that have a strong
dependency and so we need to dive into this again.

As you can read below the Debian ftpmaster has reviewed the source code
of spdep and found a weak part in the licensing.  If you ask me this
issue is also relevant for distributing spdep code on CRAN but nobody
has stumbled upon this before.  It would be great if you could clarify
the license of these pieces of code or replace it by some alternative
free code.

Kind regards and thanks for your support

 Andreas.

On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 04:49:37PM +, Thorsten Alteholz wrote:

Hi Andreas,

the issues about src/soigraph.c are not really solved.

According to the file:
* The subroutines TwoCirclesxx and SubVec are adapted for R and Double
* precision coordinates by Nicholas Lewin-Koh, from Computational
* Geometry in C, Joseph O'Rourke, Cambridge University Press
* (1998), specifically from arm/arm.c. Copyright for those subroutines
*  remains his.

As you can see, for example on Amazon, this book contains a paragraph:

This book is in copyright. (...) no reproduction of any part may take
place without the written permission of Cambridge University Press.

From my point of view this does not look like that "This code may be
freely redistributed" ...

  Thorsten




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Re: Comments from ftpmaster regarding spdep Debian package

2014-08-01 Thread Roger Bivand

On Thu, 31 Jul 2014, Andreas Tille wrote:


Hi Roger,

On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 06:42:06PM +0200, Roger Bivand wrote:

Hi Andreas,

Given surveillance rather than my (wrong) guess, I'm willing to do
what I can - I agree that actual use in epidemiology is worth
facilitating. Should the soigraph issue prove problematic, I'll look
at a work-around.


I'll wait for ftpmaster's response and let you know:


OK




What is the r-cran-maptools issue - I'm also the maintainer of that
package? I'm not aware of what might be non-free there; maybe the
data files for examples and testing? Nobody has asked me about that.


To explain this I need to come back to the debian/copyright file.  Here
is the debian/copyright file

  
http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debian-science/packages/R/r-cran-maptools/trunk/debian/copyright?view=diffr1=45900r2=46749diff_format=h

The files on the right side under the tag Files-Excluded do not have
any licensing information.  I have asked years ago (Spring 2009) but did
not got any answer.  For me (and the users of surveillance the removal
of these files is perfectly OK.  So in principle I see no stromg reason
to keep the files if it creates a lot of work for you.



The purpose of all the packages I maintain is teaching at graduate levels, 
and all the examples (so the data sets) are included in the packages to 
permit users to reproduce text book results. This software is not an 
application, it is intended to permit learning, first by doing what text 
books say, then learning from own data. This is my ontology. Consequently, 
the licensing/copyright of the code and its documentation is orthogonal to 
that of the data sets.


Note that spdep has far more data than maptools, but this has not been 
questioned. If the data license issues in spdep are not a problem, why 
were they a problem in maptools? Is GPL a relevant license for data sets 
(rhetorical question)? The examples on the help pages all need access to 
data sets - the data sets chosen by me are those that are most relevant 
for relating the methods to text books in which they are discussed.


One (bad/ugly) resolution is to create a separate data set package. 
However, this is a general problem because most CRAN packages face the 
same problem.


By the way, I maintain maptools, and cannot recall being contacted in 
2009. Nicholas contributed code in 2000/2001, but now has nothing to do 
with maptools.


Best wishes,

Roger


Kind regards

   Andreas.




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Re: Comments from ftpmaster regarding spdep Debian package

2014-07-31 Thread Roger Bivand

On Wed, 30 Jul 2014, Andreas Tille wrote:


Hi Roger,

On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 09:36:22PM +0200, Roger Bivand wrote:

Hi Andreas,

This isn't a patch to my spdep/inst/README file.


No, it's not! :-)


I have no knowledge
of any debian/copyright file, and cannot take responsibility for
that


This was never intended - it was just for our ftpmasters because its
their responsibility to verify the copyright + license of each file we
want to upload.  Sorry if this was confusing.


(I don't think installing from source is a problem for
non-OSX/Windows users; I do not use Debian systems, and do not know
anything about their packaging systems other than very bad
experiences with people with messed up GIS packages). If you want me
to patch anything, diff from spdep/inst/README on R-forge. In
particular:

 Copyright: 2005 Yongwan Chun, Michael Tiefelsdorf and Roger Bivand
 License: GPL-2+

looks very wrong.


Well, the line above this was

 Files: R/SpatialFiltering.R

in front of the Copyright/License paragraph.  We need to list all
explicite Copyright statement inside the code.  I can not see in how far
this should be in conflict with your spdep/DESCRIPTION file.



Please understand that the by-file copyrights are not important in R 
packages that I have written and maintain. The DESCRIPTION file is the 
root definition. I'm not prepared to check every file in spdep (or other 
packages) for copyright definitions, as for R purposes these are covered 
globally. If Debian need to list all explicit Copyright statement inside 
the code, that is a policy choice that is non-conformant with R packaging 
practice. The dates are almost all wrong, and the names are often wrong. 
There are more details in the ChangeLog, but even they are not consistent. 
Often changes are made based on user wishes on our mailing list without 
clear attribution by person (idea by NN, code changes by me). Sometimes 
there are comments, but not always.


R/SpatialFiltering.R was written by Chun, Tiefelsdorf and myself, and has 
been modified by me since 2005.



The list of contributors is in spdep/DESCRIPTION
in R standard parsable form;

+Files: R/bptest.sarlm.R
+Copyright: 1998 Joseph O'Rourke orou...@cs.smith.edu

isn't the correct file - should be src/soigraph.c.


Uhhmmm, perhaps I misinterpretet your first answer.  We have to
troublesome files.  Would you please consider reading the original mail
here:



No.


  
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-science-maintainers/2014-July/026470.html


I'd be grateful if you'd run any (unneeded) copyright file by me
before proceeding.


I hope not to do any unneeded work.  The Debian copyright file is
required for any Debian package and you can have a look here:

  
http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debian-science/packages/R/r-cran-spdep/trunk/debian/copyright?view=markup

I'd be more than happy if you could clarify the open issues for the
two files

  src/soigraph.c


This is the problematic file which I covered in my earlier reply.


  R/bptest.sarlm.R


The code is from a GPL 2 | 3 R package (when copied only GPL2, 
subsequently 2 | 3 (but not 2+, either 2 or 3, not any beyond 3 if they 
ever emerge).




in a format like this.


No way. The Debian formats are no help to me in what I do. If you need 
that format, you should create it.





If such a file is needed, it should only point to
the correct file within the R package (otherwise they will get out
of sync).


Since we are packaging more than R packages in Debian we can not drop
this general requirement and we need to stick to the given format.  I
agree that keeping these files in sync is a bit troublesome but I have
no choice but providing such a file (which works for 500 R packages
in Debian).


As you can see, the decision of a master is of very little use


s/master/ftpmaster/ = the gate keeper of the Debian package pool.


to me, I'll humour your attempts if you do things right, but have no
need to see spdep distributed in this way - Debian users should IMO
always install R packages from source to avoid unintended
incompatibilities.


The rationale why I intend to package spdep is that we have a certain
set of R packages packaged for Debian for very good reasons and now it
turned out that spdep is used as a new dependency to run a test suite of
some other packages.


So this is a dependency problem generated by some other R package that 
imports from or depends on spdep? That is, spatial data analysis is 
tangential to your needs? That makes me even less inclined to help. Which 
package? My guess is stargazer, so the easy solution is to tell stargazer 
to de-list spdep (the model output from models fitted in spdep is totally 
misunderstood and mangled by stargazer omitting the spatial coefficoents - 
I told the stargazer maintainer about this long ago, and asked him to fix 
it, which he didn't).


Unless you explain why I should spend any more time on this, it isn't 
going anywhere, and you are wasting time on spdep. I

Re: Comments from ftpmaster regarding spdep Debian package

2014-07-31 Thread Roger Bivand

On Thu, 31 Jul 2014, Andreas Tille wrote:


Hi Roger,

I'm very astonished that this thread which started with two very simple
questions exagerated to such a time consuming discussion.


Most questions are not as simple as they appear, think ontologies. Mine 
differs from yours. You haven't toød me why you need to package spdep 
other than that another R package depends on (enhances?) spdep. I guessed 
stargazer, but you ignored my question. I need to know why this matters.



Since I read
a lot of frustration in you mail and no chance to clarify things easily
I just repeat the main point: inst/README says:


A frequently given reply for Debian/Ubuntu users of rgdal (R interface to 
GDAL) is to avoid any and all pre-packaged Debian/Ubuntu packages and 
similar dependency traps. The Debian/Ubuntu packaging of central GIS 
software is so poor and tardy that it is a major problem for users. 
Consequently I view any such packaging as unnecessary in principle and 
practice, and that users should install from source on Linux/Unix, 
especially CRAN packages and R itself, and crucial external dependencies.




File: src/soigraph.c is copyright (c) 2001 by Nicholas Lewin-Koh and
is subject to the licence at the foot of this file, but also contains
subroutines TwoCirclesxx and SubVec, which are adapted for R and Double
precision coordinates by Nicholas Lewin-Koh, from Computational Geometry
in C, Joseph O.Rourke, Cambridge University Press (1998). Copyright for
those subroutines remains his.

Can you please confirm that the license is really GPLv2+?

 [ ] yes
 [ ] no


No idea, IANAL, I assume that the original author Nicholas Lewin-Koh 
checked in 2001 when the code came into being that the license given was 
adequate. My interpretation of the text in the file from which the 
functions were taken is that it permits use and redistribution provided 
that the copyright to J. O'Rourke is acknowledged, which it is.


Best wishes,

Roger



Sorry for the obviously failed attempt to explain what we would like to
know from you.

Kind regards

 Andreas.




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Re: Comments from ftpmaster regarding spdep Debian package

2014-07-31 Thread Roger Bivand

Hi Andreas,

Given surveillance rather than my (wrong) guess, I'm willing to do what I 
can - I agree that actual use in epidemiology is worth facilitating. 
Should the soigraph issue prove problematic, I'll look at a work-around.


What is the r-cran-maptools issue - I'm also the maintainer of that 
package? I'm not aware of what might be non-free there; maybe the data 
files for examples and testing? Nobody has asked me about that.


Best wishes,

Roger

On Thu, 31 Jul 2014, Andreas Tille wrote:


Hi Roger,

On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 03:47:34PM +0200, Roger Bivand wrote:

I'm very astonished that this thread which started with two very simple
questions exagerated to such a time consuming discussion.


Most questions are not as simple as they appear, think ontologies.
Mine differs from yours. You haven't toød me why you need to package
spdep other than that another R package depends on (enhances?)
spdep.


 http://surveillance.r-forge.r-project.org


I guessed stargazer, but you ignored my question. I need to
know why this matters.


I have no idea why you guessed this since stargazer is not packaged for
Debian and I do not know about any intend to package it.  I did not
wanted to avoid your question but rather wanted to save your time with
discussion that seemed irrelevant to me.


Since I read
a lot of frustration in you mail and no chance to clarify things easily
I just repeat the main point: inst/README says:


A frequently given reply for Debian/Ubuntu users of rgdal (R
interface to GDAL) is to avoid any and all pre-packaged
Debian/Ubuntu packages and similar dependency traps. The
Debian/Ubuntu packaging of central GIS software is so poor and tardy
that it is a major problem for users.


Since I can not find rgdal in the Debian package pool I would welcome if
this accusation would go to the place where it belongs to.  While I
agree that Debian GIS software -- not GIS software written in R but in
general -- was not in the best state but there is currently an effort to
enhance situation.  It does not help if people repeat third persons
experiences without checking the current status.


Consequently I view any such
packaging as unnecessary in principle and practice, and that users
should install from source on Linux/Unix, especially CRAN packages
and R itself, and crucial external dependencies.


I'm working in the Debian Med project and the epidemiology task has
several R packages:

  http://blends.debian.org/med/tasks/epi

The packages there do not have any open bug reports and are up to date
with the exception of r-cran-surveillance which I'm working on
currently.  It needs to pass the new queue for the sake of waiting for a
r-cran-maptools.  Since I added auto testing feature for all packages
featuring unit tests also spdep is needed since it is used in the unit
tests.  You seem to be concerned about the quality of packaged software
and so I hope you agree that running a test suite automatically and
periodically is a good idea.

In short:  I accept your opinion about Debian packaging but there are
users out there who are regarding our effort as helpful and I'm doing
this for these people.


File: src/soigraph.c is copyright (c) 2001 by Nicholas Lewin-Koh and
is subject to the licence at the foot of this file, but also contains
subroutines TwoCirclesxx and SubVec, which are adapted for R and Double
precision coordinates by Nicholas Lewin-Koh, from Computational Geometry
in C, Joseph O.Rourke, Cambridge University Press (1998). Copyright for
those subroutines remains his.

Can you please confirm that the license is really GPLv2+?

[ ] yes
[ ] no


No idea, IANAL, I assume that the original author Nicholas Lewin-Koh
checked in 2001 when the code came into being that the license given
was adequate. My interpretation of the text in the file from which
the functions were taken is that it permits use and redistribution
provided that the copyright to J. O'Rourke is acknowledged, which it
is.


I'll forward this to our ftpmaster whether he might regard this as
sufficient to distribute the package.

Kind regards

  Andreas.




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Re: Comments from ftpmaster regarding spdep Debian package

2014-07-30 Thread Roger Bivand

Hi Andreas,

On Wed, 30 Jul 2014, Andreas Tille wrote:


Hi Roger,

I tried to package spdep for Debian on behalf of the Debian Science team.
The Debian ftpmaster had some issues before he will accept the package.
Could you please clarify the points below.

Thanks a lot and also thanks for providing spdep as free software

 Andreas.

- Forwarded message from Thorsten Alteholz 
ftpmas...@ftp-master.debian.org -

Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:51:55 +
From: Thorsten Alteholz ftpmas...@ftp-master.debian.org
To: Debian Science Team debian-science-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org, Andreas 
Tille ti...@debian.org
Cc: Debian FTP Masters ftpmas...@ftp-master.debian.org
Subject: Comments regarding r-cran-spdep_0.5-74-1_amd64.changes

Hi Andreas,

according to spdep/inst/README parts of src/soigraph.c are taken from
a publication of Camebridge University Press. Can you please confirm
that the license is really GPLv2+?



The code at:

http://cs.smith.edu/~orourke/books/ftp.html
http://cs.smith.edu/~orourke/CGCode/SecondEdition/Ccode2.tar.gz

includes arm/arm.c with the affected functions. This file has:

/*
This code is described in Computational Geometry in C (Second Edition),
Chapter 8.  It is not written to be comprehensible without the
explanation in that book.

Prints out one arm configuration to reach given target.
Assumes number of links = 3.
Input:
   nlinks   Number of links
   L1 L2 ... Ln Link lengths
   x0 y0target0
   x1 x2target1
   ...

Written by Joseph O'Rourke.
Last modified: December 1997
Questions to orou...@cs.smith.edu.

This code is Copyright 1998 by Joseph O'Rourke.  It may be freely
redistributed in its entirety provided that this copyright notice is
not removed.

*/

The file src/soigraph.c has:

/* Copyright 2001 by Nicholas Lewin-Koh. 
* NOTE
* The subroutines TwoCirclesxx and SubVec are adapted for R and Double
* precision coordinates by Nicholas Lewin-Koh, from Computational
* Geometry in C, Joseph O'Rourke, Cambridge University Press
* (1998). Copyright for those subroutines remains his.
/

(slightly edited on R-forge to cite the arm/arm.c file)

which we would argue meets the requirements of the copyright holder. If 
you disagree, it may be possible to reproduce the functionality using 
another R package.



spdep/R/bptest.sarlm.R seems to be just GPLv2 and not GPLv2+, doesn't it?


From:

http://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/lmtest/index.html

lmtest now is GPL-2 | GPL-3; R source file in spdep updated.

Hope this helps,

Roger



Thorsten






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Re: Comments from ftpmaster regarding spdep Debian package

2014-07-30 Thread Roger Bivand

Hi Andreas,

This isn't a patch to my spdep/inst/README file. I have no knowledge of 
any debian/copyright file, and cannot take responsibility for that (I 
don't think installing from source is a problem for non-OSX/Windows users; 
I do not use Debian systems, and do not know anything about their 
packaging systems other than very bad experiences with people with messed 
up GIS packages). If you want me to patch anything, diff from 
spdep/inst/README on R-forge. In particular:


 Copyright: 2005 Yongwan Chun, Michael Tiefelsdorf and Roger Bivand
 License: GPL-2+

looks very wrong. The list of contributors is in spdep/DESCRIPTION in R 
standard parsable form;


+Files: R/bptest.sarlm.R
+Copyright: 1998 Joseph O'Rourke orou...@cs.smith.edu

isn't the correct file - should be src/soigraph.c.

I'd be grateful if you'd run any (unneeded) copyright file by me before 
proceeding. If such a file is needed, it should only point to the correct 
file within the R package (otherwise they will get out of sync).


As you can see, the decision of a master is of very little use to me, 
I'll humour your attempts if you do things right, but have no need to see 
spdep distributed in this way - Debian users should IMO always install R 
packages from source to avoid unintended incompatibilities.


Best wishes,

Roger

On Wed, 30 Jul 2014, Andreas Tille wrote:


Hi Roger,

thanks for your very fast response.  I keep our ftpmaster in CC since he
finally needs to decide.  I attached a proposed diff for the
debian/copyright file.

On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 05:12:58PM +0200, Roger Bivand wrote:

Hi Andreas,

On Wed, 30 Jul 2014, Andreas Tille wrote:


Hi Roger,

I tried to package spdep for Debian on behalf of the Debian Science team.
The Debian ftpmaster had some issues before he will accept the package.
Could you please clarify the points below.

Thanks a lot and also thanks for providing spdep as free software

Andreas.

- Forwarded message from Thorsten Alteholz 
ftpmas...@ftp-master.debian.org -

Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:51:55 +
From: Thorsten Alteholz ftpmas...@ftp-master.debian.org
To: Debian Science Team debian-science-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org, Andreas 
Tille ti...@debian.org
Cc: Debian FTP Masters ftpmas...@ftp-master.debian.org
Subject: Comments regarding r-cran-spdep_0.5-74-1_amd64.changes

Hi Andreas,

according to spdep/inst/README parts of src/soigraph.c are taken from
a publication of Camebridge University Press. Can you please confirm
that the license is really GPLv2+?



The code at:

http://cs.smith.edu/~orourke/books/ftp.html
http://cs.smith.edu/~orourke/CGCode/SecondEdition/Ccode2.tar.gz

includes arm/arm.c with the affected functions. This file has:

/*
This code is described in Computational Geometry in C (Second Edition),
Chapter 8.  It is not written to be comprehensible without the
explanation in that book.

Prints out one arm configuration to reach given target.
Assumes number of links = 3.
Input:
   nlinks   Number of links
   L1 L2 ... Ln Link lengths
   x0 y0target0
   x1 x2target1
   ...

Written by Joseph O'Rourke.
Last modified: December 1997
Questions to orou...@cs.smith.edu.

This code is Copyright 1998 by Joseph O'Rourke.  It may be freely
redistributed in its entirety provided that this copyright notice is
not removed.

*/


I think this is fine so far.


The file src/soigraph.c has:

/* Copyright 2001 by Nicholas Lewin-Koh. 
* NOTE
* The subroutines TwoCirclesxx and SubVec are adapted for R and Double
* precision coordinates by Nicholas Lewin-Koh, from Computational
* Geometry in C, Joseph O'Rourke, Cambridge University Press
* (1998). Copyright for those subroutines remains his.
/

(slightly edited on R-forge to cite the arm/arm.c file)

which we would argue meets the requirements of the copyright holder.
If you disagree, it may be possible to reproduce the functionality
using another R package.


I'm not sure about this but id definitely does not sound like GPLv?  For
me this statement does not include any license statement at all.
Thorsten, what do you think?


spdep/R/bptest.sarlm.R seems to be just GPLv2 and not GPLv2+, doesn't it?


From:

http://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/lmtest/index.html

lmtest now is GPL-2 | GPL-3; R source file in spdep updated.

Hope this helps,


Yes, it does to discuss things further.  Thanks a lot

Andreas.




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