Re: Sendmail DOS

2001-02-22 Thread Berend De Schouwer
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:59:06 Jean-Francois JOLY wrote: | Hello Everybody, | | I've ran Nessus against some servers and it reports me that | sendmail | is vulnerable to a Syn Flood. I've grabbed utilities to test the | vulnerabilitie and haven't succeed to reproduce the

Re: Sendmail DOS

2001-02-22 Thread Antti Tolamo
At 13:16 22.2.2001, Berend De Schouwer wrote: event a DoS, from their description, if they are implemented correctly. At least, they'll offer as much protection as inetd can. I've used them before when a mail script when crazy and caused too many connections. Anyway, Debian Potato ships with

how secure is mail and ftp and netscape/IE???

2001-02-22 Thread Steve Rudd
Hello! Steve here, Well I am one of the family now! My server is Debian 2.2r2. A benign hacker got me. All he seemed to do was overwrite my root index.html page and notify the "hackers watchdog" group to take responsibility for the act! I have some security questions: 1. How secure is it

Re: how secure is mail and ftp and netscape/IE???

2001-02-22 Thread Mike Renfro
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 01:26:02PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: You could install the Cygwin package for windows. It has ssh-2.3.0 and sftp I believe. Look for any of the following on google -- * putty: a 200K single exe file for windows. Does ssh, telnet, xterm emulation, but no port

Re: Mac most secure servers?

2001-02-22 Thread Philippe BARNETCHE
Microsoft says the same about Windows 2000 Linux fans say the same about Linux OpenBSD folks say the same about OpenBSD ... Security relies on the good quality of the system and, more important, the software you use but, in my opinion, is at the same level than the engineer in charge of the

Re: Mac most secure servers?

2001-02-22 Thread Peter Cordes
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 10:58:27AM -0500, Steve Rudd wrote: I have been told by a "Mac-head" that the Mac is the most secure server and that it is significantly more secure than any unix system, including Linux. Any comments It all depends on the admin. Given good tools to work with, the

Re: how secure is mail and ftp and netscape/IE???

2001-02-22 Thread Daniel Stark
I ssh from my Windows 2000 machine at work to my Debian machine at home. You just need the proper client. There are free ones out there for Windows. From: Adam Spickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how secure is mail and ftp and netscape/IE??? Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001

Re: Mac most secure servers?

2001-02-22 Thread Michael Scott Shappe
I have been told by a "Mac-head" that the Mac is the most secure server and that it is significantly more secure than any unix system, including Linux. MacOS up through 9.x is arguably more secure *out of the box* for the same reason that Windows9x is secure *out of the box* -- there's no

Re: Anti Virus for Debian

2001-02-22 Thread Ondrej Sury
Matthew Sherborne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are there any gpl or similar anti-virus programs for linux ? Any reccomendations ? I have patch for qmail-local which will use AVPdaemon from Kaspersky (their 'AVP for qmail' sucks), if anyone is interested, but you have to buy a license (it's not

Separate telnet/email ssh users???

2001-02-22 Thread Steve Rudd
Hi! I tore down my redhat box and installed debian about 3 days ago. I decided to use separate users and passwd for each telnet and email. User#1: standard unsecure telnet cuteftp and Eudora. User#1 has no shell access and is restricted to public "html" files directories. User#2: CRTssh

Re: Mac most secure servers?

2001-02-22 Thread andre
I've used macs as servers for fairly large numbers of people working for a school district (k12 districts aren't into *nixes much yet, at least mine wasn't...). It ran webstar (httpd), eims (mail), quickdns pro, and netpresenz (ftpd). In my estimation, the security advantage definitely goes to

Woody ssh exploit

2001-02-22 Thread Micah Anderson
We are currently running woody on a production machine (yes, I am not that happy about that decision). Woody does not get potato's security updates, and does not get new unstable security fixes in a timely fashion. This leaves woody vulnerable to certain kinds of problems, particularly

Re: Woody ssh exploit

2001-02-22 Thread Aaron Dewell
You could just recompile it yourself. I don't even use any of the Debian SSH packages anymore, they are mostly out-of-date anyway. The current SSH2 in woody is 2.0.13, for example. I just download the source and compile it myself for those kind of things. There's another good point to that:

Re: Woody ssh exploit

2001-02-22 Thread Richard
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Micah Anderson wrote: Potato has a fix at http://www.debian.org/security/2001/dsa-027 So how do we fix this on a woody machine? You could build it from the source pkg's. put some deb-src lines in y'r /etc/apt/sources.list apt-get (-b) source btw. howdo these

Re: Woody ssh exploit

2001-02-22 Thread Jacob Kuntz
from the secret journal of Aaron Dewell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): You could just recompile it yourself. I don't even use any of the Debian SSH packages anymore, they are mostly out-of-date anyway. The current SSH2 in woody is 2.0.13, for example. I just download the source and compile it

Re: Woody ssh exploit

2001-02-22 Thread Peter Cordes
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 11:10:39AM -0800, Micah Anderson wrote: We are currently running woody on a production machine (yes, I am not that happy about that decision). Woody does not get potato's security updates, and does not get new unstable security fixes in a timely fashion. This leaves

Re: Woody ssh exploit

2001-02-22 Thread Stuart Marshall
Hi, I'm running woody but I have security.debian.org stable in my apt sources.list file: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org woody/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free

Re: Woody ssh exploit

2001-02-22 Thread mistrm
I installed ssh 2.3.0p1-1.11 from unstable on my woody machines at home. It works great. Yes, but 2.4.0 is current. NO, SSH 2.4.0 is SSH from SSH Communications. It is a commerical release. OpenSSH and SSH are two different products - two completely different implementations of

Re: Mac most secure servers?

2001-02-22 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 10:58:27AM -0500, Steve Rudd wrote: I have been told by a "Mac-head" that the Mac is the most secure server and that it is significantly more secure than any unix system, including Linux. with MacOS everything runs as root since there is no security, no UIDs, no

Re: Mac most secure servers?

2001-02-22 Thread CaT
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 03:09:36PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: several years ago there was a silly `Crack a Mac' contest and someone managed to exploit a cgi script and deface the web site served by the Mac. in most cases such an attack would never allow site defacment on unix since the site

Re: Woody ssh exploit

2001-02-22 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 06:03:53PM -0700, Ray Percival wrote: To solve this issue with Woody I just leave the line for the stable security updates in my sources file. I get the security updates before they are in Woody. Is there any reason this would not be a good idea? Yeah. It doesn't

Re: Separate telnet/email ssh users???

2001-02-22 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:43:55 -0500, Steve Rudd mumbled disconsolately: Why I could even post them on my root page and taunt hackers to try and break in with them! I could even offer a 1000 prize for anyone who can crack and hack their way in! "Pride goeth before destruction, and an

Sendmail DOS

2001-02-22 Thread Jean-Francois JOLY
Hello Everybody, I've ran Nessus against some servers and it reports me that sendmail is vulnerable to a Syn Flood. I've grabbed utilities to test the vulnerabilitie and haven't succeed to reproduce the problem. I've found no information about this vulnerabilitie. Do

Re: Sendmail DOS

2001-02-22 Thread Berend De Schouwer
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:59:06 Jean-Francois JOLY wrote: | Hello Everybody, | | I've ran Nessus against some servers and it reports me that | sendmail | is vulnerable to a Syn Flood. I've grabbed utilities to test the | vulnerabilitie and haven't succeed to reproduce the problem.

Re: Sendmail DOS

2001-02-22 Thread Berend De Schouwer
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:27:07 Antti Tolamo wrote: | At 13:16 22.2.2001, Berend De Schouwer wrote: | | | event a DoS, from | their description, if they are implemented correctly. At least, | they'll offer as much protection as inetd can. I've used them | before when a mail script when crazy and

Re[2]: Sendmail DOS

2001-02-22 Thread Jean-Francois JOLY
Hello Berend, You're right, it's a good question but: It *is* Sendmail ;-) I will try the features you told me, what do you think of this setting, there is 150 PCs behind a 128k leased line. O RefuseLA=15 O MaxDaemonChildren=30 O ConnectionRateThrottle=2 I wonder if

Re: how secure is mail and ftp and netscape/IE???

2001-02-22 Thread Mike Renfro
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 01:26:02PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: You could install the Cygwin package for windows. It has ssh-2.3.0 and sftp I believe. Look for any of the following on google -- * putty: a 200K single exe file for windows. Does ssh, telnet, xterm emulation, but no port

Mac most secure servers?

2001-02-22 Thread Steve Rudd
I have been told by a Mac-head that the Mac is the most secure server and that it is significantly more secure than any unix system, including Linux. Any comments

Re: Mac most secure servers?

2001-02-22 Thread Philippe BARNETCHE
Microsoft says the same about Windows 2000 Linux fans say the same about Linux OpenBSD folks say the same about OpenBSD ... Security relies on the good quality of the system and, more important, the software you use but, in my opinion, is at the same level than the engineer in charge of the

Re: Mac most secure servers?

2001-02-22 Thread Peter Cordes
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 10:58:27AM -0500, Steve Rudd wrote: I have been told by a Mac-head that the Mac is the most secure server and that it is significantly more secure than any unix system, including Linux. Any comments It all depends on the admin. Given good tools to work with, the

Re: how secure is mail and ftp and netscape/IE???

2001-02-22 Thread Daniel Stark
I ssh from my Windows 2000 machine at work to my Debian machine at home. You just need the proper client. There are free ones out there for Windows. From: Adam Spickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-security@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: how secure is mail and ftp and netscape/IE??? Date:

Re: Mac most secure servers?

2001-02-22 Thread Robert L. Yelvington
well, considering that mac has cornered .0001% of the network operating system market, there may be some truth to that statement. after all, the most secure os is one that no one uses, right? some one else, replied stating that a systems level of security is generally at the

Re: Mac most secure servers?

2001-02-22 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 10:58:27AM -0500, Steve Rudd wrote: I have been told by a Mac-head that the Mac is the most secure server and that it is significantly more secure than any unix system, including Linux. Believe it or not the U.S. military made such a claim about 18 months or so back.

Re: Mac most secure servers?

2001-02-22 Thread John Millard
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: The thing is, any box on the network is going to be insecure, and the I second(third?) that. The best way to reduce the security risk to zero on ANY system is to: 1. Unplug ethernet 2. Unplug power cord 3. Lock system in

Re: Mac most secure servers?

2001-02-22 Thread Michael Scott Shappe
I have been told by a Mac-head that the Mac is the most secure server and that it is significantly more secure than any unix system, including Linux. MacOS up through 9.x is arguably more secure *out of the box* for the same reason that Windows9x is secure *out of the box* -- there's no

RE: how secure is mail and ftp and netscape/IE???

2001-02-22 Thread Alex Swavely
-Original Message- From: Mike Renfro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Renfro Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 7:30 AM To: debian-security@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: how secure is mail and ftp and netscape/IE??? [...] * ttssh: ssh extension for TeraTerm Pro.

Re: Anti Virus for Debian

2001-02-22 Thread Ondrej Sury
Matthew Sherborne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are there any gpl or similar anti-virus programs for linux ? Any reccomendations ? I have patch for qmail-local which will use AVPdaemon from Kaspersky (their 'AVP for qmail' sucks), if anyone is interested, but you have to buy a license (it's not

Separate telnet/email ssh users???

2001-02-22 Thread Steve Rudd
Hi! I tore down my redhat box and installed debian about 3 days ago. I decided to use separate users and passwd for each telnet and email. User#1: standard unsecure telnet cuteftp and Eudora. User#1 has no shell access and is restricted to public html files directories. User#2: CRTssh

Re: Mac most secure servers?

2001-02-22 Thread andre
I've used macs as servers for fairly large numbers of people working for a school district (k12 districts aren't into *nixes much yet, at least mine wasn't...). It ran webstar (httpd), eims (mail), quickdns pro, and netpresenz (ftpd). In my estimation, the security advantage definitely goes to the

Woody ssh exploit

2001-02-22 Thread Micah Anderson
We are currently running woody on a production machine (yes, I am not that happy about that decision). Woody does not get potato's security updates, and does not get new unstable security fixes in a timely fashion. This leaves woody vulnerable to certain kinds of problems, particularly distressing

Re: Woody ssh exploit

2001-02-22 Thread Aaron Dewell
You could just recompile it yourself. I don't even use any of the Debian SSH packages anymore, they are mostly out-of-date anyway. The current SSH2 in woody is 2.0.13, for example. I just download the source and compile it myself for those kind of things. There's another good point to that:

Re: Woody ssh exploit

2001-02-22 Thread Richard
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Micah Anderson wrote: Potato has a fix at http://www.debian.org/security/2001/dsa-027 So how do we fix this on a woody machine? You could build it from the source pkg's. put some deb-src lines in y'r /etc/apt/sources.list apt-get (-b) source btw. howdo these

Re: Woody ssh exploit

2001-02-22 Thread Jacob Kuntz
from the secret journal of Aaron Dewell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): You could just recompile it yourself. I don't even use any of the Debian SSH packages anymore, they are mostly out-of-date anyway. The current SSH2 in woody is 2.0.13, for example. I just download the source and compile it

RE: Woody ssh exploit

2001-02-22 Thread mistrm
I installed ssh 2.3.0p1-1.11 from unstable on my woody machines at home. It works great. Actually that's OpenSSH 2.3.0p1. I seriously wish the Debian team would stop calling it SSH and label it properly. OpenSSH is Free Software. The commercial release of SSH from SSH Communications is

Re: Woody ssh exploit

2001-02-22 Thread Stuart Marshall
Hi, I'm running woody but I have security.debian.org stable in my apt sources.list file: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org woody/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free

Re: Woody ssh exploit

2001-02-22 Thread Aaron Dewell
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Peter Cordes wrote: On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 11:10:39AM -0800, Micah Anderson wrote: We are currently running woody on a production machine (yes, I am not that happy about that decision). Woody does not get potato's security updates, and does not get new unstable

Re: Woody ssh exploit

2001-02-22 Thread mistrm
I installed ssh 2.3.0p1-1.11 from unstable on my woody machines at home. It works great. Yes, but 2.4.0 is current. NO, SSH 2.4.0 is SSH from SSH Communications. It is a commerical release. OpenSSH and SSH are two different products - two completely different implementations of

Re: Mac most secure servers?

2001-02-22 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 10:58:27AM -0500, Steve Rudd wrote: I have been told by a Mac-head that the Mac is the most secure server and that it is significantly more secure than any unix system, including Linux. with MacOS everything runs as root since there is no security, no UIDs, no

Re: Mac most secure servers?

2001-02-22 Thread CaT
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 03:09:36PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: several years ago there was a silly `Crack a Mac' contest and someone managed to exploit a cgi script and deface the web site served by the Mac. in most cases such an attack would never allow site defacment on unix since the site

Re: Woody ssh exploit

2001-02-22 Thread Ray Percival
To solve this issue with Woody I just leave the line for the stable security updates in my sources file. I get the security updates before they are in Woody. Is there any reason this would not be a good idea? Ray Random numbers are to computers what freewill is to human beings --Robert A.

Re: Debian or Redhat 7???

2001-02-22 Thread Mike Fedyk
Tal Danzig wrote: There are no mirrors of security.debian.org (or shouldn't be) for security reasons. This way the authenticity of security packages can be better controlled. - Tal What about local mirrors? I can imagine a company with several hundred, or maybe thousands of debian