Re: Packet filtering help

2001-04-10 Thread Vaclav Hula
Dne po 9. duben 2001 21:40 Jim Breton napsal(a): On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 03:20:00PM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: Ask yourself this: *Why* should ICMP be filtered? What are you gaining? Do you sleep better at night knowing that your machine won't respond to pings? It really doesn't

Re: Droping untracked packet

2001-04-10 Thread Santiago Garcia Mantinan
Apr 9 00:03:20 dino kernel: NAT: 0 dropping untracked packet c688a860 1 y.y.y.y - x.x.x.x This seems to me like the problems I was having with icmp packages being dropped when using mtr, Rusty Russell has been arround this weekend and he has produced a patch to solve this, even though he

Re: Packet filtering help

2001-04-10 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 12:13:52PM +0200, Vaclav Hula wrote: Ask yourself this: *Why* should ICMP be filtered? What are you gaining? What are you gaining by responding to them? RFC compliancy isn't enough? IMHO should be. There's no RFC that states that you need to reply to echo

IPChains help

2001-04-10 Thread Eugene van Zyl
Hi, What's wrong with the following ruleset that I can't do any DNS lookups from the firewallhost ? $IPCHAINS -P input ACCEPT $IPCHAINS -P forward ACCEPT $IPCHAINS -P output ACCEPT $IPCHAINS -F $IPCHAINS -X # input rules $IPCHAINS -A input -s $localnet -d $localnet -j ACCEPT $IPCHAINS -A

Re: Packet filtering help

2001-04-10 Thread Jim Breton
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 12:13:52PM +0200, Vaclav Hula wrote: RFC compliancy isn't enough? IMHO should be. Someone else has already responded to this; but no, RFC compliance doesn't necessarily tell us the best thing to do for every situation. Take syn cookies for example. A decent policy

Re: IPChains help

2001-04-10 Thread Martin Peikert
"Eugene van Zyl" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, What's wrong with the following ruleset that I can't do any DNS lookups from the firewallhost ? --snip # output rules $IPCHAINS -A output -s $localnet -d $Any -j ACCEPT You need output rules that allow dns queries for the

ip spoofing (httpd)

2001-04-10 Thread Clemens Hermann
Hi, today I had a discussion with somebody about the possibility of ip-spoofing that affects the apache. In particular we were talking about a cgi-script he implemented. The script is sort of an online-voting-system. To avoid that someone clicks several times he uses the source-IP and each IP

Re: ip spoofing (httpd)

2001-04-10 Thread mafkees
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 08:29:10PM +0200, Clemens Hermann wrote: Hi, today I had a discussion with somebody about the possibility of ip-spoofing that affects the apache. In particular we were talking about a cgi-script he implemented. The script is sort of an online-voting-system. To avoid

Re: ip spoofing (httpd)

2001-04-10 Thread Peter Cordes
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 08:29:10PM +0200, Clemens Hermann wrote: Hi, today I had a discussion with somebody about the possibility of ip-spoofing that affects the apache. In particular we were talking about a cgi-script he implemented. The script is sort of an online-voting-system. To avoid

Re: Packet filtering help

2001-04-10 Thread Vaclav Hula
Dne po 9. duben 2001 21:40 Jim Breton napsal(a): On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 03:20:00PM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: Ask yourself this: *Why* should ICMP be filtered? What are you gaining? Do you sleep better at night knowing that your machine won't respond to pings? It really doesn't

Re: Packet filtering help

2001-04-10 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 12:13:52PM +0200, Vaclav Hula wrote: Ask yourself this: *Why* should ICMP be filtered? What are you gaining? What are you gaining by responding to them? RFC compliancy isn't enough? IMHO should be. There's no RFC that states that you need to reply to echo

IPChains help

2001-04-10 Thread Eugene van Zyl
Hi, What's wrong with the following ruleset that I can't do any DNS lookups from the firewallhost ? $IPCHAINS -P input ACCEPT $IPCHAINS -P forward ACCEPT $IPCHAINS -P output ACCEPT $IPCHAINS -F $IPCHAINS -X # input rules $IPCHAINS -A input -s $localnet -d $localnet -j ACCEPT $IPCHAINS -A

Re: Packet filtering help

2001-04-10 Thread Jim Breton
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 12:13:52PM +0200, Vaclav Hula wrote: RFC compliancy isn't enough? IMHO should be. Someone else has already responded to this; but no, RFC compliance doesn't necessarily tell us the best thing to do for every situation. Take syn cookies for example. A decent policy is

Re: IPChains help

2001-04-10 Thread Martin Peikert
Eugene van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, What's wrong with the following ruleset that I can't do any DNS lookups from the firewallhost ? --snip # output rules $IPCHAINS -A output -s $localnet -d $Any -j ACCEPT You need output rules that allow dns queries for the

ip spoofing (httpd)

2001-04-10 Thread Clemens Hermann
Hi, today I had a discussion with somebody about the possibility of ip-spoofing that affects the apache. In particular we were talking about a cgi-script he implemented. The script is sort of an online-voting-system. To avoid that someone clicks several times he uses the source-IP and each IP has

Re: ip spoofing (httpd)

2001-04-10 Thread mafkees
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 08:29:10PM +0200, Clemens Hermann wrote: Hi, today I had a discussion with somebody about the possibility of ip-spoofing that affects the apache. In particular we were talking about a cgi-script he implemented. The script is sort of an online-voting-system. To avoid

Re: ip spoofing (httpd)

2001-04-10 Thread Peter Cordes
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 08:29:10PM +0200, Clemens Hermann wrote: Hi, today I had a discussion with somebody about the possibility of ip-spoofing that affects the apache. In particular we were talking about a cgi-script he implemented. The script is sort of an online-voting-system. To avoid

Re: ip spoofing (httpd)

2001-04-10 Thread Dan Rowles
You need to initiate a TCP connection in order to send a HTTP request. This imposes some constraints on the behaviour of an attacker. I can see 2 immediate avenues of attck:- 1) Proxies - get someone else to send the HTTP request on your behalf :) 2) IP Address spoofing. However, since this is a

Re: IPChains help

2001-04-10 Thread Doug Alcorn
Eugene van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's wrong with the following ruleset that I can't do any DNS lookups from the firewallhost ? $IPCHAINS -P input ACCEPT $IPCHAINS -P forward ACCEPT $IPCHAINS -P output ACCEPT Maybe this is just for testing purposes, but the best practices say to