aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Juha Jäykkä
(off topic) Anyone care to help me: I need some _strong_ points in favour of Debian, against SuSE. No crap, please. I need to presuade my superiors to turn from RH to Debian instead of SuSE as they would like to do. I need strong evidence in favour of Debian if I am to succeed in enforcing it.

Re: aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Martin Hermanowski
Should this be on the list or per mail only? On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 11:03:41AM +0300, Juha Jäykkä wrote: (off topic) Anyone care to help me: I need some _strong_ points in favour of Debian, against SuSE. No crap, please. I need to presuade my superiors to turn from RH to Debian instead of

Re: aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Tim Haynes
Martin Hermanowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Should this be on the list or per mail only? I don't know why it's on debian-secure, that's for sure. On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 11:03:41AM +0300, Juha Jäykkä wrote: (off topic) Anyone care to help me: I need some _strong_ points in favour of

Re: aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 11:03:41AM +0300, Juha Jäykkä wrote: (off topic) enforcing it. I do not know SuSE myself, so I cannot fight them (they do not know Debian, but they are the ones who decide - they do not Who's administering the boxen, you or them? If the answer is you, or other people

Re: aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Geoff Beaumont
At 04:44 2001-07-16 -0400, you wrote: ,[ On Mon, Jul 16, at 11:03AM, Juha J?ykk? wrote: ]-- | Anyone care to help me: I need some _strong_ points in favour of | Debian, against SuSE. No crap, please. I need to presuade my superiors | to turn from RH to Debian instead of SuSE as

Re: aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Florian Kessler
Am 16.07.2001 10:03 Uhr schrieb Juha Jäykkä unter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: (off topic) Anyone care to help me: I need some _strong_ points in favour of Debian, against SuSE. No crap, please. I need to presuade my superiors to turn from RH to Debian instead of SuSE as they would like to do. I need

Re: aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Sebastiaan
Hi, On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, [ISO-8859-1] Juha Jäykkä wrote: (off topic) Anyone care to help me: I need some _strong_ points in favour of Debian, against SuSE. No crap, please. I need to presuade my superiors to turn from RH to Debian instead of SuSE as they would like to do. I need strong

Re: aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 12:52:20PM +0200, Martin F. Krafft wrote: this isn't an answer, but install Debian, then change /etc/issue as well as /etc/motd to suggest SuSE, and trust me, none of your superiors are going to get it :) like they would ever login to the machine anyway. -- Ethan

RE: aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Jens Fendler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi juha.. Anyone care to help me: I need some _strong_ points in favour of Debian, against SuSE. No crap, please. I need to presuade my superiors as someone else already said, yast is a major problem with suse.. the distribution itself is

DoS prevention techquies.

2001-07-16 Thread Stefan Srdic
I stumbled over this article the other day, it basically decribes several configuration options for several routers and UNIX OSes that can be used to reduce minimize the impact of DoS attacks: http://www.antioffline.com/stoppingdos.html I've already read about a few of the Linux IPV4

Re: DoS prevention techquies.

2001-07-16 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Stefan Srdic ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010716 21:01]: snip What exactly do these paramters do, and should I be toying around with them? Sorry for the smarmy repsonse, but the answer to the second question is at least not until you are able to answer the first question. Too bad I can't help

Debian hosting an open relay?

2001-07-16 Thread Wade Richards
All of my mail from the debian-security list is appearing in my spam folder, because it appears that murphy.debian.org is in the ORBS list. Does anyone know if this is a Debian problem (I find it hard to believe that there really is an open relay), or an ORBS problem? --- Wade --

aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Juha Jäykkä
(off topic) Anyone care to help me: I need some _strong_ points in favour of Debian, against SuSE. No crap, please. I need to presuade my superiors to turn from RH to Debian instead of SuSE as they would like to do. I need strong evidence in favour of Debian if I am to succeed in enforcing it. I

Re: aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Martin Hermanowski
Should this be on the list or per mail only? On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 11:03:41AM +0300, Juha Jäykkä wrote: (off topic) Anyone care to help me: I need some _strong_ points in favour of Debian, against SuSE. No crap, please. I need to presuade my superiors to turn from RH to Debian instead of

Re: aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Tim Haynes
Martin Hermanowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Should this be on the list or per mail only? I don't know why it's on debian-secure, that's for sure. On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 11:03:41AM +0300, Juha Jäykkä wrote: (off topic) Anyone care to help me: I need some _strong_ points in favour of

Re: aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 11:03:41AM +0300, Juha Jäykkä wrote: (off topic) enforcing it. I do not know SuSE myself, so I cannot fight them (they do not know Debian, but they are the ones who decide - they do not Who's administering the boxen, you or them? If the answer is you, or other people

Re: aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Gabriel Rocha
,[ On Mon, Jul 16, at 11:03AM, Juha J?ykk? wrote: ]-- | Anyone care to help me: I need some _strong_ points in favour of | Debian, against SuSE. No crap, please. I need to presuade my superiors | to turn from RH to Debian instead of SuSE as they would like to do. I | need strong

Re: aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Geoff Beaumont
At 04:44 2001-07-16 -0400, you wrote: ,[ On Mon, Jul 16, at 11:03AM, Juha J?ykk? wrote: ]-- | Anyone care to help me: I need some _strong_ points in favour of | Debian, against SuSE. No crap, please. I need to presuade my superiors | to turn from RH to Debian instead of SuSE as

Re: aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Florian Kessler
Am 16.07.2001 10:03 Uhr schrieb Juha Jäykkä unter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: (off topic) Anyone care to help me: I need some _strong_ points in favour of Debian, against SuSE. No crap, please. I need to presuade my superiors to turn from RH to Debian instead of SuSE as they would like to do. I need

Re: aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Sebastiaan
Hi, On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, [ISO-8859-1] Juha Jäykkä wrote: (off topic) Anyone care to help me: I need some _strong_ points in favour of Debian, against SuSE. No crap, please. I need to presuade my superiors to turn from RH to Debian instead of SuSE as they would like to do. I need strong

Re: aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Martin F. Krafft
also sprach Juha J?ykk? (on Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:03:41AM +0300): Anyone care to help me: I need some _strong_ points in favour of Debian, against SuSE. No crap, please. I need to presuade my superiors to turn from RH to Debian instead of SuSE as they would like to do. I need strong evidence

Re: aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 12:52:20PM +0200, Martin F. Krafft wrote: this isn't an answer, but install Debian, then change /etc/issue as well as /etc/motd to suggest SuSE, and trust me, none of your superiors are going to get it :) like they would ever login to the machine anyway. -- Ethan

Re: aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Martin F. Krafft
also sprach Ethan Benson (on Mon, 16 Jul 2001 04:14:51AM -0800): this isn't an answer, but install Debian, then change /etc/issue as well as /etc/motd to suggest SuSE, and trust me, none of your superiors are going to get it :) like they would ever login to the machine anyway. word up.

Re: aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Sebastian Rittau
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 11:03:41AM +0300, Juha Jäykkä wrote: Anyone care to help me: I need some _strong_ points in favour of Debian, against SuSE. No crap, please. I need to presuade my superiors to turn from RH to Debian instead of SuSE as they would like to do. I need strong evidence in

Security Feedback - Backup Process?

2001-07-16 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
I realize this is a little off-topic for this list, but based on some of the other discussions that I've followed over the last month, I'm hopeful that I might be able to get some feedback from some of you, either on the list or privately. Basically, what I'm looking for is a security-based

Debian hosting an open relay?

2001-07-16 Thread Wade Richards
All of my mail from the debian-security list is appearing in my spam folder, because it appears that murphy.debian.org is in the ORBS list. Does anyone know if this is a Debian problem (I find it hard to believe that there really is an open relay), or an ORBS problem? --- Wade --

RE: aargh... I am being asked to change to SuSE

2001-07-16 Thread Jens Fendler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi juha.. Anyone care to help me: I need some _strong_ points in favour of Debian, against SuSE. No crap, please. I need to presuade my superiors as someone else already said, yast is a major problem with suse.. the distribution itself is

DoS prevention techquies.

2001-07-16 Thread Stefan Srdic
I stumbled over this article the other day, it basically decribes several configuration options for several routers and UNIX OSes that can be used to reduce minimize the impact of DoS attacks: http://www.antioffline.com/stoppingdos.html I've already read about a few of the Linux IPV4