Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-28 Thread eim
Well, yes... you're right ! ** Never say impossible ** On Sat, 2002-04-27 at 02:27, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach eim [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.04.26.1757 +0200]: With https data will be encripted and it's impossible to find out login and password because they're not sent over the

Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-28 Thread eim
Well, yes... you're right ! ** Never say impossible ** On Sat, 2002-04-27 at 02:27, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach eim [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.04.26.1757 +0200]: With https data will be encripted and it's impossible to find out login and password because they're not sent over the net

Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-27 Thread Gareth Bowker
On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 03:32:45AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Dan Faerch [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.04.26.1955 +0200]: Second more, if your users are allowed to have pages on the same address as the login system, the browser can, without much effort, be tricked into giving away

Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-27 Thread Schusselig Brane
Steve Mickeler wrote: Trust not in switches. They too can be easily manipulated unless you have locked them down at a mac address and port level. 'apt-get install dsniff' ; 'man arpspoof' Of course, which is one of the things I had in mind when I said: topology. Switches tend not to

Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-27 Thread Dan Faerch
Gareth Bowker wrote: If someone's already logged in, and they visit a webpage on the same domain which asks for a username and password for the same realm as the one used to log in, the browser will send the username/password pair without asking the user for any confirmation. At least I assume

Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-27 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Dan Faerch [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.04.27.2120 +0200]: you know their algorithm against MAC table overflow? No i dont.. I would be very interrested in reading about it, if you know of a link.. Im sure that it would be possible to enforce some level of security.. it's quite

Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-27 Thread Gareth Bowker
On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 03:32:45AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Dan Faerch [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.04.26.1955 +0200]: Second more, if your users are allowed to have pages on the same address as the login system, the browser can, without much effort, be tricked into giving away

Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-27 Thread Schusselig Brane
Steve Mickeler wrote: Trust not in switches. They too can be easily manipulated unless you have locked them down at a mac address and port level. 'apt-get install dsniff' ; 'man arpspoof' Of course, which is one of the things I had in mind when I said: topology. Switches tend not to

Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-27 Thread Dan Faerch
Gareth Bowker wrote: If someone's already logged in, and they visit a webpage on the same domain which asks for a username and password for the same realm as the one used to log in, the browser will send the username/password pair without asking the user for any confirmation. At least I assume

Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-27 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Dan Faerch [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.04.27.2120 +0200]: you know their algorithm against MAC table overflow? No i dont.. I would be very interrested in reading about it, if you know of a link.. Im sure that it would be possible to enforce some level of security.. it's quite simple.

Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-26 Thread eim
Hallo Brane, I'm actually a K-13 student, and so in my 'strategic' position I'm on both sides, admin of debian box and 3v1l cracker :) No, well.. I was just kidding, I have really better things to do than actually cracking Debian boxes in pubblic environments, but anyway I what do you think

Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-26 Thread Dan Faerch
already said) - Dan Faerch A/S ScanNet (Denmark) - Original Message - From: eim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Schusselig Brane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 5:57 PM Subject: Re: A more secure form of .htaccess? Hallo Brane, I'm actually a K-13

Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-26 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach eim [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.04.26.1757 +0200]: With https data will be encripted and it's impossible to find out login and password because they're not sent over the net in a clear way. never say impossible. -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \

Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-26 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Dan Faerch [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.04.26.1955 +0200]: Second more, if your users are allowed to have pages on the same address as the login system, the browser can, without much effort, be tricked into giving away your systems username and password to a personal user page... how?

Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-26 Thread Steve Mickeler
Trust not in switches. They too can be easily manipulated unless you have locked them down at a mac address and port level. 'apt-get install dsniff' ; 'man arpspoof' Another option would be to run switches instead of normal hub or bus topology. Switches tend not to allow other nodes on a

Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-26 Thread eim
Hallo Brane, I'm actually a K-13 student, and so in my 'strategic' position I'm on both sides, admin of debian box and 3v1l cracker :) No, well.. I was just kidding, I have really better things to do than actually cracking Debian boxes in pubblic environments, but anyway I what do you think

Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-26 Thread Dan Faerch
already said) - Dan Faerch A/S ScanNet (Denmark) - Original Message - From: eim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Schusselig Brane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-security@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 5:57 PM Subject: Re: A more secure form of .htaccess? Hallo Brane, I'm actually

Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-26 Thread Mike Renfro
On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 07:55:06PM +0200, Dan Faerch wrote: You should be aware, that when you use normal .htaccess protection, browser never logout..With eg. Internet Explorer, all intances of IE have to be closed to make the browser forget the login.. Actually, I think instances of IE that

Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-26 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach eim [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.04.26.1757 +0200]: With https data will be encripted and it's impossible to find out login and password because they're not sent over the net in a clear way. never say impossible. -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \

Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-26 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Dan Faerch [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.04.26.1955 +0200]: Second more, if your users are allowed to have pages on the same address as the login system, the browser can, without much effort, be tricked into giving away your systems username and password to a personal user page... how?

Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-25 Thread Schusselig Brane
Tom Dominico wrote: Hello all, I have written some php-based internal systems for our users. Users are required to authenticate to access this system, and their login determines what they are allowed to do within the system. I am concerned that their logging in with cleartext passwords

Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-25 Thread Steve Mickeler
Trust not in switches. They too can be easily manipulated unless you have locked them down at a mac address and port level. 'apt-get install dsniff' ; 'man arpspoof' Another option would be to run switches instead of normal hub or bus topology. Switches tend not to allow other nodes on a

A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-22 Thread Tom Dominico
Hello all, I have written some php-based internal systems for our users. Users are required to authenticate to access this system, and their login determines what they are allowed to do within the system. I am concerned that their logging in with cleartext passwords is a security risk. I work

Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-22 Thread Greg Hunt
You might want to take a look at using digest authentication, which sends a MD5 digest of the pasword instead of the actual password. http://httpd.apache.org/docs/howto/auth.html I have written some php-based internal systems for our users. Users are required to authenticate to access this

A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-22 Thread Tom Dominico
Hello all, I have written some php-based internal systems for our users. Users are required to authenticate to access this system, and their login determines what they are allowed to do within the system. I am concerned that their logging in with cleartext passwords is a security risk. I work

Re: A more secure form of .htaccess?

2002-04-22 Thread Jay Kline
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am wondering if any of you have had similar problems. What is a more secure way for people to login? Is SSL an option, and if so, how do I go about using it? Do I have to purchase a certificate? Or is there some other option? Finally,