Re: PaX on Debian

2006-01-26 Thread janec
Can everbody tell me where I can download PaX patch for debian kernel? Thanks smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: PaX on Debian

2006-01-26 Thread Martin G.H. Minkler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can everbody tell me where I can download PaX patch for debian kernel? Maybe look into a bigger / more complete solution such as http://www.grsecurity.net or SELinux? grsecurity is highly configurable, just use the PaX features if You like regards Martin

Re: PaX on Debian (Kernel Settings)

2004-07-29 Thread Christoph Hellwig
Sorry, no interest in such a mega-patch. If you are interested in getting non-executable stack/heap/etc patches into the debian kernel work with the arch maintainers, for example Dave Miller has added patches based on PaX to sparc lately. For the magic ELF flags please use the non-exec stack

Re: PaX on Debian (Demo setup)

2004-07-28 Thread John Richard Moser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've got a chunk of data that can be used for a demo setup over here. I would like the help of any debian developers that would like to package up a set of kernels and the scripts that come with this and place them in a mini-repository, to give the

Re: PaX on Debian (Kernel Settings)

2004-07-27 Thread John Richard Moser
packaging. It still hasn't been decided if Debian will actually supply a PaX-enabled base, with ET_DYN binaries or even with PT_PAX_FLAGS in the ELF headers (PaX binutils patch makes these) and appropriate markings to prevent breakage under a PaX kernel. If Debian is indeed going to support a PaX protected

Re: PaX on Debian

2004-07-26 Thread John Richard Moser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andres Salomon wrote: | On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 12:57:29 -0400, John Richard Moser wrote: | | | I'm interested in discussing the viability of PaX on Debian. I'd like | to discuss the changes to the base system that would be made, the costs | in terms

Re: PaX on Debian

2004-07-26 Thread Andres Salomon
On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 14:37 -0400, John Richard Moser wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andres Salomon wrote: | On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 12:57:29 -0400, John Richard Moser wrote: | [...] Did some digging. pipacs said that PAGEEXEC force-enables the 'disable vsyscall'

Re: PaX on Debian

2004-07-26 Thread John Richard Moser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andres Salomon wrote: | On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 14:37 -0400, John Richard Moser wrote: | |-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- |Hash: SHA1 | | | |Andres Salomon wrote: || On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 12:57:29 -0400, John Richard Moser wrote: || | | [...] | |Did

Re: PaX on Debian (Recap 1)

2004-07-26 Thread John Richard Moser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'll do a recapitulation of what has been covered thusfar in this message. It's a long one, but it'll get us all on the same channel. John Richard Moser wrote: | I'm interested in discussing the viability of PaX on Debian. I'd like | to discuss

Re: PaX on Debian

2004-07-26 Thread GOTO Masanori
At Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:38:37 -0400, John Richard Moser wrote: |: Tags added: fixed-upstream Request was from GOTO Masanori |: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Full text available. | |Fixed in upstream. Either use an updated glibc in the next debian |release (I know there's no way

Re: PaX on Debian

2004-07-26 Thread John Richard Moser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 GOTO Masanori wrote: | At Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:38:37 -0400, | John Richard Moser wrote: | [...] | | | Is this VSYSCALL issue? I guess we can backport it without large | obstacle, but I have no spare time within a few days to work this bug | because

PaX on Debian

2004-07-25 Thread John Richard Moser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm interested in discussing the viability of PaX on Debian. I'd like to discuss the changes to the base system that would be made, the costs in terms of overhead and compatibility, the gains in terms of security, and the mutability (elimination

Re: PaX on Debian

2004-07-25 Thread Steve Kemp
On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 12:57:29PM -0400, John Richard Moser wrote: A PaX protected base would also benefit from Stack Smash Protection, which can be done via the gcc patch ProPolice. I have been flirting with SSP for months now, but the most recent patches included with GCC do not apply

Re: PaX on Debian

2004-07-25 Thread John Richard Moser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Kemp wrote: | On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 12:57:29PM -0400, John Richard Moser wrote: | | |A PaX protected base would also benefit from Stack Smash Protection, |which can be done via the gcc patch ProPolice. | | | I have been flirting with SSP for

Re: PaX on Debian

2004-07-25 Thread Steve Kemp
On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 02:26:15PM -0400, John Richard Moser wrote: | I have been flirting with SSP for months now, but the most recent | patches included with GCC do not apply cleanly. Watch for a bug | against GCC shortly with updated SSP patches. | Yeah I think on 3.3.4 on Gentoo

Re: PaX on Debian

2004-07-25 Thread John Richard Moser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Kemp wrote: | On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 02:26:15PM -0400, John Richard Moser wrote: | | || I have been flirting with SSP for months now, but the most recent || patches included with GCC do not apply cleanly. Watch for a bug || against GCC

Re: PaX on Debian

2004-07-25 Thread John Richard Moser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Kemp wrote: [...] |Firefox sets off SSP itself on load. | | | When you say 'sets of' do you mean disable? I find that unlikely, | as it's not the kind of thing that can be disabled when all the | canary checking code is incorporated into

Re: PaX on Debian

2004-07-25 Thread Andres Salomon
On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 12:57:29 -0400, John Richard Moser wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm interested in discussing the viability of PaX on Debian. I'd like to discuss the changes to the base system that would be made, the costs in terms of overhead and compatibility

Re: PaX on Debian

2004-07-25 Thread John Richard Moser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 . . . .thunderbird is being weird. It's giving me where should be, and wehre should be. EH. Andres Salomon wrote: | On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 12:57:29 -0400, John Richard Moser wrote: | | | I'm interested in discussing the viability of PaX on Debian

Re: PaX on Debian

2004-07-25 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 02:57, John Richard Moser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm interested in discussing the viability of PaX on Debian. I'd like to discuss the changes to the base system that would be made, the costs in terms of overhead and compatibility, the gains in terms of security

Re: PaX on Debian

2004-07-25 Thread John Richard Moser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Russell Coker wrote: | On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 02:57, John Richard Moser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | |I'm interested in discussing the viability of PaX on Debian. I'd like |to discuss the changes to the base system that would be made, the costs |in terms

Re: PaX on Debian

2004-07-25 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:48, John Richard Moser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Before we can even start thinking about PaX on Debian we need to find a | maintainer for the kernel patch who will package new versions of the | patch which apply to the Debian kernel source tree. We have had a few

Re: PaX on Debian

2004-07-25 Thread John Richard Moser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Russell Coker wrote: | On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:48, John Richard Moser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | || Before we can even start thinking about PaX on Debian we need to find a || maintainer for the kernel patch who will package new versions of the || patch

Re: PaX on Debian

2004-07-25 Thread John Richard Moser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Found a problem. Russell Coker wrote: | On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 02:57, John Richard Moser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] | | We have recently discussed this on at least one of the lists you posted to. | The end result of the discussion is that GCC is