Re: noboby with a shell !!

2003-04-01 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 at 08:07:05PM +0100, Dale Amon wrote: > I have heard it so argued and remain to be convinced. > I have a cfengine script that overwrites the work of > debian packages in passwd within minutes of an upgrade. > All non-real users get /dev/false for a shell on my > systems. If it

Re: noboby with a shell !!

2003-04-01 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 at 08:07:05PM +0100, Dale Amon wrote: > I have heard it so argued and remain to be convinced. > I have a cfengine script that overwrites the work of > debian packages in passwd within minutes of an upgrade. > All non-real users get /dev/false for a shell on my > systems. If it

Re: noboby with a shell !!

2003-03-31 Thread Dale Amon
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 12:55:21AM +0100, Sven Hoexter wrote: > Ok then I'm out of arguments ;) but I think there is a reason for the > packagers > to setup a lot of dummy users for daemons etc. with /bin/sh instead of > /bin/false or /dev/null. I have heard it so argued and remain to be convince

Re: noboby with a shell !!

2003-03-31 Thread Dale Amon
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 12:55:21AM +0100, Sven Hoexter wrote: > Ok then I'm out of arguments ;) but I think there is a reason for the packagers > to setup a lot of dummy users for daemons etc. with /bin/sh instead of > /bin/false or /dev/null. I have heard it so argued and remain to be convinced.

Re: noboby with a shell !!

2003-03-28 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 10:55:45PM +0100, Christian Jaeger wrote: > At 12:11 Uhr +0100 26.03.2003, Sven Hoexter wrote: Hi, > >This might be bad cause AFAIK a few cronjobs change from their root uid to > >nobody via the su command. > > They don't really need a shell setting for nobody. su -s /bin

Re: noboby with a shell !!

2003-03-28 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 10:55:45PM +0100, Christian Jaeger wrote: > At 12:11 Uhr +0100 26.03.2003, Sven Hoexter wrote: Hi, > >This might be bad cause AFAIK a few cronjobs change from their root uid to > >nobody via the su command. > > They don't really need a shell setting for nobody. su -s /bin

Re: noboby with a shell !!

2003-03-28 Thread Christian Jaeger
At 12:11 Uhr +0100 26.03.2003, Sven Hoexter wrote: This might be bad cause AFAIK a few cronjobs change from their root uid to nobody via the su command. They don't really need a shell setting for nobody. su -s /bin/sh $commandline works as well. Christian.

Re: noboby with a shell !!

2003-03-28 Thread Christian Jaeger
At 12:11 Uhr +0100 26.03.2003, Sven Hoexter wrote: This might be bad cause AFAIK a few cronjobs change from their root uid to nobody via the su command. They don't really need a shell setting for nobody. su -s /bin/sh $commandline works as well. Christian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROT

Re: noboby with a shell !!

2003-03-26 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 10:50:48AM -0500, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 12:11:58PM +0100, Sven Hoexter wrote: > > Well yes it could :) As long as the user has no valid password it's not very > > usefull. Take a look into the /etc/shadow and in the second field you'll > > find

Re: Re: noboby with a shell !!

2003-03-26 Thread martin . j
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Re: noboby with a shell !!

2003-03-26 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 10:50:48AM -0500, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 12:11:58PM +0100, Sven Hoexter wrote: > > Well yes it could :) As long as the user has no valid password it's not very > > usefull. Take a look into the /etc/shadow and in the second field you'll find > > !

Re: noboby with a shell !!

2003-03-26 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 12:11:58PM +0100, Sven Hoexter wrote: > Well yes it could :) As long as the user has no valid password it's not very > usefull. Take a look into the /etc/shadow and in the second field you'll find > ! or * indicating that this user has a invalid password. See man 5 shadow.

Re: noboby with a shell !!

2003-03-26 Thread François TOURDE
Yoann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > there is an * in /etc/shadow for nobody, but all services (ftp, web...) > are running with the uid nobody so if there is an attack on an unknow > bug (I keep up to date all services) on those services (buffer overflow > for example), It's will be unsercure.. .

Re: Re: noboby with a shell !!

2003-03-26 Thread martin . j
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Re: noboby with a shell !!

2003-03-26 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 12:11:58PM +0100, Sven Hoexter wrote: > Well yes it could :) As long as the user has no valid password it's not very > usefull. Take a look into the /etc/shadow and in the second field you'll find > ! or * indicating that this user has a invalid password. See man 5 shadow.

Re: noboby with a shell !!

2003-03-26 Thread François TOURDE
Yoann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > there is an * in /etc/shadow for nobody, but all services (ftp, web...) > are running with the uid nobody so if there is an attack on an unknow > bug (I keep up to date all services) on those services (buffer overflow > for example), It's will be unsercure.. .

Re: noboby with a shell !!

2003-03-26 Thread Yoann
Hi, I look at in the file /etc/passwd on my server today, and I saw the user nobody has a shell !!. When I installed my debian (sarge, I know it's bad, but it's just a server for me...) I put /bin/false. A few days ago, while an upgrade, apt asked to me to upgrade that file to the new version an

Re: noboby with a shell !!

2003-03-26 Thread Yoann
Hi, I look at in the file /etc/passwd on my server today, and I saw the user nobody has a shell !!. When I installed my debian (sarge, I know it's bad, but it's just a server for me...) I put /bin/false. A few days ago, while an upgrade, apt asked to me to upgrade that file to the new version and

Re: noboby with a shell !!

2003-03-26 Thread robjeh
Does the user nobody has got a password in /etc/shadow ? greets Robbert Citeren Yoann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > hi, > > I look at in the file /etc/passwd on my server today, and I saw the user > nobody has a shell !!. When I installed my debian (sarge, I know it's > bad, but it's just a server

Re: noboby with a shell !!

2003-03-26 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 11:35:38AM +0100, Yoann wrote: Hi, > I look at in the file /etc/passwd on my server today, and I saw the user > nobody has a shell !!. When I installed my debian (sarge, I know it's > bad, but it's just a server for me...) I put /bin/false. A few days ago, > while an up

noboby with a shell !!

2003-03-26 Thread Yoann
hi, I look at in the file /etc/passwd on my server today, and I saw the user nobody has a shell !!. When I installed my debian (sarge, I know it's bad, but it's just a server for me...) I put /bin/false. A few days ago, while an upgrade, apt asked to me to upgrade that file to the new version

Re: noboby with a shell !!

2003-03-26 Thread robjeh
Does the user nobody has got a password in /etc/shadow ? greets Robbert Citeren Yoann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > hi, > > I look at in the file /etc/passwd on my server today, and I saw the user > nobody has a shell !!. When I installed my debian (sarge, I know it's > bad, but it's just a server

Re: noboby with a shell !!

2003-03-26 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 11:35:38AM +0100, Yoann wrote: Hi, > I look at in the file /etc/passwd on my server today, and I saw the user > nobody has a shell !!. When I installed my debian (sarge, I know it's > bad, but it's just a server for me...) I put /bin/false. A few days ago, > while an up

noboby with a shell !!

2003-03-26 Thread Yoann
hi, I look at in the file /etc/passwd on my server today, and I saw the user nobody has a shell !!. When I installed my debian (sarge, I know it's bad, but it's just a server for me...) I put /bin/false. A few days ago, while an upgrade, apt asked to me to upgrade that file to the new version