Re: sendmail localhost rDNS

2009-08-12 Thread Will Aoki
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:56:57AM +0200, Joerg Morbitzer wrote: I just did a fresh sendmail installation on Debian Etch getting this auto-generated new /etc/mail/access file: titan:~# grep ^Connect:.*RELAY /etc/mail/access Connect:localhost RELAY Connect:127

Re: sendmail localhost rDNS

2009-08-11 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Lupe Christoph l...@lupe-christoph.de [090810 21:13]: Almost all security holes need to user to do something. (If only to power up the machine, to install some packages, to connect to the internet, to give accounts to users). The question cannot be that something has to be done do make

Re: sendmail localhost rDNS

2009-08-11 Thread Thomas Liske
Re, Lupe Christoph wrote: On Monday, 2009-08-10 at 14:35:06 +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: * Lupe Christoph l...@lupe-christoph.de [090810 13:53]: On Monday, 2009-08-10 at 13:46:38 +0200, Thomas Liske wrote: last week, there was an article on heise security about MTAs[1] which relay mails

Re: sendmail localhost rDNS

2009-08-11 Thread Lupe Christoph
OK, I give up. And shut up. Please file a bug against the sendmail package, with the information that sendmail allows you to enter Connect:localhost RELAY in /etc/mail/access. And another one that Connect:127.0.0.1 RELAY opens up the same hole as Connect:localhost RELAY. Since I have no

Re: sendmail localhost rDNS

2009-08-11 Thread Lupe Christoph
On Tuesday, 2009-08-11 at 10:32:04 +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: * Lupe Christoph l...@lupe-christoph.de [090810 21:13]: Almost all security holes need to user to do something. (If only to power up the machine, to install some packages, to connect to the internet, to give accounts to

Re: sendmail localhost rDNS

2009-08-11 Thread Joerg Morbitzer
Lupe Christoph wrote: OK, I give up. And shut up. Please file a bug against the sendmail package, with the information that sendmail allows you to enter Connect:localhost RELAY in /etc/mail/access. And another one that Connect:127.0.0.1 RELAY opens up the same hole as Connect:localhost

Re: sendmail localhost rDNS

2009-08-11 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Lupe Christoph l...@lupe-christoph.de [090811 10:56]: So it is in my eyes no criteria at all that the user has to change some configuration. The question is whether this change is supposed to cause the effects it does and if a user can be expected to understand the effects. Please go

Re: sendmail localhost rDNS

2009-08-11 Thread Michiel Klaver
If sendmail would do a double lookup verify on the reverse DNS records, there would be no problem at all. When some obscure IP address has reverse DNS pointer record localhost and sendmail would do another lookup to see what IP address belongs to localhost, then it would not match (obscure IP !=

sendmail localhost rDNS

2009-08-10 Thread Thomas Liske
Hi, last week, there was an article on heise security about MTAs[1] which relay mails for hosts having a reverse resolution of 'localhost'. Doing a small test shows that sendmail on etch seems to be vulnerable, too. I need to have a localhost RELAY line in my access file (which is not

Re: sendmail localhost rDNS

2009-08-10 Thread Lupe Christoph
On Monday, 2009-08-10 at 13:46:38 +0200, Thomas Liske wrote: last week, there was an article on heise security about MTAs[1] which relay mails for hosts having a reverse resolution of 'localhost'. Doing a small test shows that sendmail on etch seems to be vulnerable, too. I need to have

Re: sendmail localhost rDNS

2009-08-10 Thread Thomas Liske
Re, #Lupe Christoph wrote: On Monday, 2009-08-10 at 13:46:38 +0200, Thomas Liske wrote: last week, there was an article on heise security about MTAs[1] which relay mails for hosts having a reverse resolution of 'localhost'. Doing a small test shows that sendmail on etch seems to be

Re: sendmail localhost rDNS

2009-08-10 Thread Lupe Christoph
On Monday, 2009-08-10 at 14:03:44 +0200, Thomas Liske wrote: #Lupe Christoph wrote: On Monday, 2009-08-10 at 13:46:38 +0200, Thomas Liske wrote: last week, there was an article on heise security about MTAs[1] which relay mails for hosts having a reverse resolution of 'localhost'. Doing a

Re: sendmail localhost rDNS

2009-08-10 Thread Jan de Groot
On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 14:03 +0200, Thomas Liske wrote: if an access line like: Connect:localhost RELAY turns a MTA into an Open Relay than I would prefere a DSA, since the ACL implementation is broken IMHO. As long as reverse DNS can be faked, I would never use hostnames

Re: sendmail localhost rDNS

2009-08-10 Thread Thomas Liske
Re, Jan de Groot wrote: On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 14:03 +0200, Thomas Liske wrote: if an access line like: Connect:localhost RELAY turns a MTA into an Open Relay than I would prefere a DSA, since the ACL implementation is broken IMHO. As long as reverse DNS can be faked, I would

Re: sendmail localhost rDNS

2009-08-10 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Jan de Groot j...@jgc.homeip.net [090810 14:22]: On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 14:03 +0200, Thomas Liske wrote: if an access line like: Connect:localhost RELAY turns a MTA into an Open Relay than I would prefere a DSA, since the ACL implementation is broken IMHO. As long

Re: sendmail localhost rDNS

2009-08-10 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Lupe Christoph l...@lupe-christoph.de [090810 13:53]: On Monday, 2009-08-10 at 13:46:38 +0200, Thomas Liske wrote: last week, there was an article on heise security about MTAs[1] which relay mails for hosts having a reverse resolution of 'localhost'. Doing a small test shows that

Re: sendmail localhost rDNS

2009-08-10 Thread Lupe Christoph
On Monday, 2009-08-10 at 14:35:06 +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: * Lupe Christoph l...@lupe-christoph.de [090810 13:53]: On Monday, 2009-08-10 at 13:46:38 +0200, Thomas Liske wrote: last week, there was an article on heise security about MTAs[1] which relay mails for hosts having a