How efficient is mounting /usr ro?

2003-10-09 Thread Tarjei Huse
Hi, The Securing Debian manual suggest one should set the /usr partition to ro and use remount when you install new programs. I was just wondering how much security one gains with this. Wouldn't most hackers go after the programs in the /bin and /sbin directories anyway? Thanks for any input.

Re: How efficient is mounting /usr ro?

2003-10-09 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 at 04:34:12AM -0400, Tarjei Huse wrote: Hi, The Securing Debian manual suggest one should set the /usr partition to ro and use remount when you install new programs. I was just wondering how much security one gains with this.

Re: How efficient is mounting /usr ro?

2003-10-09 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Tarjei Huse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031009 10:55]: The Securing Debian manual suggest one should set the /usr partition to ro and use remount when you install new programs. I was just wondering how much security one gains with this. I do not think one gets much security out of it. I think the

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2003-10-09 Thread Pavol Zibrita
Hi There Again! I have seen some emails already on this topic. I'm monitoring a larg trafic with snort, and it had began to generate the message $subject$. The logcheck is running and it has generated a log to above 3mb size because of this message. Is there some way to turn snort to print

Re: How efficient is mounting /usr ro?

2003-10-09 Thread Ted Cabeen
Bernhard R. Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Tarjei Huse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031009 10:55]: The Securing Debian manual suggest one should set the /usr partition to ro and use remount when you install new programs. I was just wondering how much security one gains with this. I do not think

Re: How efficient is mounting /usr ro?

2003-10-09 Thread Brandon High
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:06:46AM -0400, Phillip Hofmeister wrote: If I r00t your system I'll have access to remount it rw anyhow. Any hacker who doesn't know how to remount a file system is really lame. You may slow someone down for 3 seconds until they type: It'll stop a worm or automated

Re: nenhum

2003-10-09 Thread Agente34
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Re: How efficient is mounting /usr ro?

2003-10-09 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 at 01:58:40PM -0400, Brandon High wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:06:46AM -0400, Phillip Hofmeister wrote: If I r00t your system I'll have access to remount it rw anyhow. Any hacker who doesn't know how to remount a file system is really lame. You may slow someone

Re: How efficient is mounting /usr ro?

2003-10-09 Thread Steve Wray
Getting rid of root kits? Recently I've been thinking about this sort of thing as part of a project for work. The answer we came up with was to update boxes by rsync with --delete The centralised server that holds the root filesystems to be synced out obviously has to be kept secure, but

Re: How efficient is mounting /usr ro?

2003-10-09 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Steve Wray said on Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 01:22:48PM +1300: The answer we came up with was to update boxes by rsync with --delete You may want to look at systemimager; it already does this, and it already knows to exclude the stuff that you don't want to rsync. I've been doing something like

Re: How efficient is mounting /usr ro?

2003-10-09 Thread Steve Wray
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:56, Mark Ferlatte wrote: Steve Wray said on Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 01:22:48PM +1300: The answer we came up with was to update boxes by rsync with --delete You may want to look at systemimager; it already does this, and it already knows to exclude the stuff that you

Re: How efficient is mounting /usr ro?

2003-10-09 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Ahhh but we run scripts on the target before and after the rsync; to prep it up and so forth, as well as patching some things in /etc (we use a diff 'n' sed|patch system for some things in etc) Hence, the binaries on the target that these scripts run

How efficient is mounting /usr ro?

2003-10-09 Thread Tarjei Huse
Hi, The Securing Debian manual suggest one should set the /usr partition to ro and use remount when you install new programs. I was just wondering how much security one gains with this. Wouldn't most hackers go after the programs in the /bin and /sbin directories anyway? Thanks for any input.

Re: How efficient is mounting /usr ro?

2003-10-09 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 at 04:34:12AM -0400, Tarjei Huse wrote: Hi, The Securing Debian manual suggest one should set the /usr partition to ro and use remount when you install new programs. I was just wondering how much security one gains with this.

Re: How efficient is mounting /usr ro?

2003-10-09 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Tarjei Huse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031009 10:55]: The Securing Debian manual suggest one should set the /usr partition to ro and use remount when you install new programs. I was just wondering how much security one gains with this. I do not think one gets much security out of it. I think the

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2003-10-09 Thread Pavol Zibrita
Hi There Again! I have seen some emails already on this topic. I'm monitoring a larg trafic with snort, and it had began to generate the message $subject$. The logcheck is running and it has generated a log to above 3mb size because of this message. Is there some way to turn snort to print

Re: How efficient is mounting /usr ro?

2003-10-09 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: If I r00t your system I'll have access to remount it rw anyhow. This is more about data security. The system reboots faster if /usr is clean. And it avoids random typo errors from root to some extend Bernd -- eckes privat - http://www.eckes.org/ Project

Re: How efficient is mounting /usr ro?

2003-10-09 Thread Ted Cabeen
Bernhard R. Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Tarjei Huse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031009 10:55]: The Securing Debian manual suggest one should set the /usr partition to ro and use remount when you install new programs. I was just wondering how much security one gains with this. I do not think

Re: How efficient is mounting /usr ro?

2003-10-09 Thread Brandon High
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:06:46AM -0400, Phillip Hofmeister wrote: If I r00t your system I'll have access to remount it rw anyhow. Any hacker who doesn't know how to remount a file system is really lame. You may slow someone down for 3 seconds until they type: It'll stop a worm or automated

Re: nenhum

2003-10-09 Thread Agente34
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Re: How efficient is mounting /usr ro?

2003-10-09 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 at 01:58:40PM -0400, Brandon High wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:06:46AM -0400, Phillip Hofmeister wrote: If I r00t your system I'll have access to remount it rw anyhow. Any hacker who doesn't know how to remount a file system is really lame. You may slow someone

Re: How efficient is mounting /usr ro?

2003-10-09 Thread Steve Wray
Getting rid of root kits? Recently I've been thinking about this sort of thing as part of a project for work. The answer we came up with was to update boxes by rsync with --delete The centralised server that holds the root filesystems to be synced out obviously has to be kept secure, but

Re: How efficient is mounting /usr ro?

2003-10-09 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Steve Wray said on Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 01:22:48PM +1300: The answer we came up with was to update boxes by rsync with --delete You may want to look at systemimager; it already does this, and it already knows to exclude the stuff that you don't want to rsync. I've been doing something like

Re: How efficient is mounting /usr ro?

2003-10-09 Thread Steve Wray
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:56, Mark Ferlatte wrote: Steve Wray said on Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 01:22:48PM +1300: The answer we came up with was to update boxes by rsync with --delete You may want to look at systemimager; it already does this, and it already knows to exclude the stuff that you

Re: How efficient is mounting /usr ro?

2003-10-09 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Ahhh but we run scripts on the target before and after the rsync; to prep it up and so forth, as well as patching some things in /etc (we use a diff 'n' sed|patch system for some things in etc) Hence, the binaries on the target that these scripts run