Re: UNS: Debian 4.0 Upgrade Path

2010-01-23 Thread Thiemo Nagel
However if that is the case, I wonder if oldstable support could be extended for some more time. But why? There is a *stable* release with security support. Debian isn't made for skipping a whole release. And the end of support for etch was announced long ago, so that everyone had enough time

Re: UNS: Debian 4.0 Upgrade Path

2010-01-23 Thread Thiemo Nagel
Dear Johannes, On 01/22/2010 11:27 PM, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: A typical Debian upgrade will lead to a downtime on the order of a few minutes once every 2 years, compared to tedious manual reinstallation required on other systems. It is straightforward to semi-automatically upgrade some 100

Re: UNS: Debian 4.0 Upgrade Path

2010-01-23 Thread Thiemo Nagel
Dear Moritz, On 01/22/2010 07:14 PM, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: On 2010-01-22, Thiemo Nagelthiemo.na...@ph.tum.de wrote: The Security Team has discussed and stated before: If large institutions want a longer support cycle for oldstable they should colloborate to fund this externally. Supporting

Re: UNS: Debian 4.0 Upgrade Path

2010-01-23 Thread Jens Schüßler
* Thiemo Nagel thiemo.na...@ph.tum.de wrote: Dear Johannes, On 01/22/2010 11:27 PM, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: A typical Debian upgrade will lead to a downtime on the order of a few minutes once every 2 years, compared to tedious manual reinstallation required on other systems. It is