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Can anyone help me identify who is trying to get into my system?
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[http://www.debianhelp.org/ :]
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I suspect that over 50% of debian installs use the default
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conceivable that you are unaware of those. You might wish to browse in
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Am I missing something?
http://www.catb.org/~esr/fetchmail/ includes:
Fetchmail retrieves mail from remote mail servers and forwards it
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You might want to check out ssmtp.
Also nullmailer and smtppush.
See: Nullmailers on http://linuxmafia.com/kb/Mail/
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, the crontab fragment in /etc/cron.d/exim
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[1] Which I'd somehow missed until now. Thus my point.
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Quoting Luk Claes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Well, it is linked from the www.d-o/security page (at the bottom click
on woody).
Ah, mea culpa. I'd somehow managed to miss that.
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However, I _would_ like to STOP it from being delivered at all, as
defined by simple rules like those above. As far as I can tell, this
must be done in the SMTP negotiation phase.
Mostly.
What's it going to cost my ISP to implement this? Is it
port 25 outbound will reduce spam abuse.
http://spf.pobox.com/srs.html
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7328
(Tell your ISP: Adapt or die. ;- )
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Quoting Michael Stone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Yeah, big difference. If the spam is going through a relay, the relay
will send the same bounce and the same person will get the bounce
message.
Oh, oh! jumps up and down
Gee, I guess that relay should have rejected the spam instead of relaying
Quoting Michael Stone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I'm sure the guy who got joe jobbed is happy that you can point out the
source of his misforture. Must be real comforting and all.
Was there a particular part of the immediately preceding reference to
SPF that you didn't get, or was it the concept as
Quoting Blu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
If my relay server (not open, but relay for customers) has no means to
verify recipients, what to do when the destination server rejects that
mail already accepted by my server?. Bounce.
(Implicit assumption that you have no option but to accept forged-sender
Quoting Michael Stone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 04:24:35PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
One can pretend that the matter's open for debate, but that would be a
waste of time: It's happening.
Sure it is. How do you manage to sleep, fixing all the email systems in
the world
Quoting Michael Stone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 05:32:17PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
Was there a particular part of the immediately preceding reference to
SPF that you didn't get, or was it the concept as a whole?
I get the concept of vaporware. Seen a lot of it over
Quoting Phillip Hofmeister ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
While I am sure finding out whose is bigger is exciting to you. I
feel comfortable in speaking for the rest of the list when I say this
thread has become WAY OT.
I'm surprised that an allegation that SPF -- highly relevant to SMTP
security --
Quoting Michael Stone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Well, it is vaporware. Until it's used by a noticable percentage of
hosts, it's irrelevant.
(1) Where I come from, the term vapourware means software touted far
in advance of its availability. As noted, such is most emphatically not
the case, here.
Quoting Michael Stone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
yeah, aol's pleased as punch about it. they also don't have much
interest in customers sending email with @aol from off their own system
unless they use an obnoxious webmail client. same goes for hotmail.
anyone with users who isn't aol and whose
Quoting Michael Stone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
There's a line between advocacy and zealotry.
Still stuck in name-calling mode? Pity.
It's fine for a home user to implement it quickly but it's not so easy
for a lot of large organizations that currently allow people to send
mail from offsite
Quoting Michael Stone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
What name calling? There's a difference.
snort Cute.
Ah, well.
You're assuming unrestricted outbound connections. Might even be true in
your environment.
It's true that there will be interim problems with corporate firewalls
(etc.) closing off
Quoting Michael Stone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
No, I'm not.
You _weren't_ ignoring the point I just made and changing the subject?
Then, some villain apparently snuck into your MTA and substituted
different text that did, for the original message you tried to send.
You should sue! ;-
I'm
Quoting Michael Stone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
You're talking about SPF. That's a concept, not an implementation.
Implementation details have already been posted.
Effective use of SPF requires widespread adoption. Until/unless
widespread adoption happens the promises of SPF are vaporware.
Quoting Russell Coker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Some of the anti-spam people are very enthusiastic about their work. I
wouldn't be surprised if someone writes a bot to deal with CR systems.
A bot to detect C-R queries and add them to the refused-mail ACL list
would be most useful. ;-
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stable and 10% Something Else Entirely. (I applaud your enthusiasm, and
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) the same sort of precautions? After all, a PDF is basically just
a PS file, so I imagine the same sorts of attack are possible.
A run through the manpage was unenlightening.
(Ah, I see Kevin has the same concern.)
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Quoting Florian Weimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh:
Why non-free? The code is available under a DFSG-free copyright
license.
The one I have here isn't, but if you have one that is entirely DFSG-free,
that's much better.
An older version is available from:
Quoting Florian Weimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I once worked on an OpenPGP implementation vulnerability matrix, but
this topic isn't very interesting anymore. For me at least, there's
just GnuPG.
Just out of curiosity, are there now, or have there been in the past,
any _other_ implementations
Quoting James Renken ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Agreed - but some of my customers, even after I've pointed out the risks,
just don't want to go through the trouble of changing from their preferred
Telnet programs.
ObNivenAndPournelle: Think of it as evolution in action.
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I typically use cygwin on *MY* laptop, but when away from that -
I try not to install random software on other's boxen
The usual remedy is to pull down putty.exe (tiny) and
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from one's
/etc/hosts file, with the result that an avalanche of local socket
requests clobber the system's ARP cache.
So, don't rush to the conclusion that your system is under attack, just
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Incorrect MD5 checksums: 6
Which ones? And on what basis is it saying they're incorrect? You
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Do you mean to say that opening message.txt\t\t\t.desktop which
happens to be a freedesktop.org compliant launcher for the program rm
-rf $HOME is safe because it's designed for people running one of the
F/OSS products GNOME or KDE on a F/OSS OS?
Quoting David Mandelberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Attached.
Save to your GNOME/KDE desktop (like many newbies do) and double click
the new icon. .desktop files (currently) don't need the x bit set to
work, so no chmod'ing is necessary.
I'm sorry, but the question was:
Please advise this
someone can file an ITP for it, as package mutt-fod
(for Friends of Darwin). ;-
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a better MUA, running on a
better OS.
Quite.
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Quoting Florian Weimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
mutt and Gnus are, in typical configurations. Most distributions
kindly add all these helpful mailcap entries.
Perhaps you need assistance comprehending the word specific (used
twice in my question)? I await with interest your achieving that
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