On 09/08/2014 06:33 AM, David Prévot wrote:
Le 07/09/2014 10:54, Paul Wise a écrit :
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 9:30 PM, David Prévot wrote:
How does it work if the upgrade run in the background? Will all needed
service be restarted without asking? (If so, the gdm3 restart issue may
be a
[ Still replying on security since that’s where the thread started, but
feel free to follow up on private maintainer’s list since it becomes
off topic for security. ]
Hi Thomas,
Le 10/09/2014 14:29, Thomas Liske a écrit :
The debconf stuff is upstream and IMHO *not* a 3.9.1 Prompting in
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
I think it would help the security of the average Debian system if some tool
to restart services after package upgrades was installed by default. There's
checkrestart from debian-goodies, but since Jessie also the a bit more
modern
Le 07/09/2014 02:07, Paul Wise a écrit :
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
In jessie there is also whatmaps. The results from checkrestart seem
to be different to needrestart in many cases, since the latter ignores
some services that are problematic/impossible to restart
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 9:30 PM, David Prévot wrote:
It doesn’t seem to work as expected: it defaults to restart gdm3 where I
stand.
Could you file a bug about that? The default needrestart blacklist
contains /usr/sbin/gdm3 so that shouldn't happen.
Not restarting by default the DM seems to
On 7 September 2014 15:30:22 CEST, David Prévot taf...@debian.org wrote:
Le 07/09/2014 02:07, Paul Wise a écrit :
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
My questions to this list:
- Do people agree that this would be something that's good to have
in a
default installation? Are
Le 07/09/2014 10:54, Paul Wise a écrit :
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 9:30 PM, David Prévot wrote:
How does it work if the upgrade run in the background? Will all needed
service be restarted without asking? (If so, the gdm3 restart issue may
be a blocker).
Not sure what you mean by 'in the
On 08.09.2014 07:33, David Prévot wrote:
Le 07/09/2014 10:54, Paul Wise a écrit :
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 9:30 PM, David Prévot wrote:
How does it work if the upgrade run in the background? Will all
needed service be restarted without asking? (If so, the gdm3
restart issue may be a blocker).
* [Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 08:48:25PM +0200] Thijs Kinkhorst:
[needrestart]
- Do people agree that this would be something that's good to have in a
default installation? Are there drawbacks?
I like needrestart and I added it to my standard toolbox since its
admission in Debian (well, it took
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 01:41:05PM -0700, Jameson Graef Rollins wrote:
This package is Priority: optional, and therefore not installed by
default. What about just making it important or required?
On my system it pulled in more than 20MB of dependencies. That's a lot
to push onto every debian
On Wed, September 3, 2014 15:05, Michael Stone wrote:
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 01:41:05PM -0700, Jameson Graef Rollins wrote:
This package is Priority: optional, and therefore not installed by
default. What about just making it important or required?
On my system it pulled in more than 20MB of
On Wed, Sep 03 2014, Michael Stone mst...@debian.org wrote:
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 01:41:05PM -0700, Jameson Graef Rollins wrote:
This package is Priority: optional, and therefore not installed by
default. What about just making it important or required?
On my system it pulled in more than
On Wed, 3 Sep 2014, Jameson Graef Rollins wrote:
On Wed, Sep 03 2014, Michael Stone mst...@debian.org wrote:
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 01:41:05PM -0700, Jameson Graef Rollins wrote:
This package is Priority: optional, and therefore not installed by
default. What about just making it important
On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 11:34:46AM -0700, Jameson Graef Rollins wrote:
Is 20MB really a lot? That seems like essentially nothing to me
nowadays. I'm in the middle of a 2.2GB upgrade right now.
It sure is for people doing minimal installations in a number of
contexts. Yeah, it's nothing
On mar., 2014-09-02 at 00:11 +0300, Mikko Rapeli wrote:
As a workaround I, and hopefully most users, know about debian-goodies
and checkrestart, and figure out on their own if a reboot is
necessary.
It's quite certain that about nobody know about debian-goodies or
checkrestart.
Regards,
--
Hi,
Le 02/09/2014 04:05, Yves-Alexis Perez a écrit :
It's quite certain that about nobody know about debian-goodies or
checkrestart.
The Securing Debian Manual recommends it, so hopefully you’re wrong.
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch4#s-lib-security-update
On Tue, Sep 02 2014, David Prévot taf...@debian.org wrote:
Le 02/09/2014 04:05, Yves-Alexis Perez a écrit :
It's quite certain that about nobody know about debian-goodies or
checkrestart.
The Securing Debian Manual recommends it, so hopefully you’re wrong.
On 02/09/2014 18:04, Jameson Graef Rollins wrote:
On Tue, Sep 02 2014, David Prévot taf...@debian.org wrote:
Admins
should have to manually run obscure scripts to check things like that.
s/should have/should not have/
--
Jack.
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On Tue, Sep 02 2014, Jack j...@jackpot.uk.net wrote:
On 02/09/2014 18:04, Jameson Graef Rollins wrote:
On Tue, Sep 02 2014, David Prévot taf...@debian.org wrote:
Admins
should have to manually run obscure scripts to check things like that.
s/should have/should not have/
Yes, thank you for
The needrestart package from jessie with package defaults appears to run
automatically and suggest, but not automatically perform, necessary
service restarts.
On 09/02/2014 11:56 AM, Jameson Graef Rollins wrote:
On Tue, Sep 02 2014, Jack j...@jackpot.uk.net wrote:
On 02/09/2014 18:04, Jameson
On Tue, Sep 02 2014, Tom Dial tdd...@comcast.net wrote:
The needrestart package from jessie with package defaults appears to run
automatically and suggest, but not automatically perform, necessary
service restarts.
This package is Priority: optional, and therefore not installed by
default.
Hi all,
When using APT to install security updates, by default services using the
upgraded libraries are not restarted. Take for example openssl updates: merely
doing apt-get update apt-get upgrade is not enough to be safe: you also
need to restart Apache, Postfix, ...
Although well-trained
Thijs Kinkhorst th...@debian.org (2014-09-01):
My questions to this list:
- Do people agree that this would be something that's good to have in
a default installation? Are there drawbacks?
Having to know about debian-goodies always looked awkward to me. A
dedicated, easy to identify package
Long ago I started one thread about making security updates effective, so...
On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 08:48:25PM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
My questions to this list:
- Do people agree that this would be something that's good to have in a
default installation? Are there drawbacks?
Well,
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