Re: Mass update deployment strategy

2007-01-10 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 07:23:36PM +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > > Do you think there is a need for them? > > No, too much beaucracy for too little gain. What bureaucracy? Unlike CVE names, each vendor can generate their own OVAL signatures. For example: http://people.redhat.com/mjc/oval/ fo

Re: Mass update deployment strategy

2007-01-10 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 08:08:36PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > Does anyone publish Debian-specific OVAL signatures? Do you think > there is a need for them? Not that I know of, but I have a converter to OVAL signatures that can generate the XML files from the website contents. But somebody has

Re: Mass update deployment strategy

2007-01-10 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
On 2007-01-09, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña: > >> If your installation where slightly bigger (maybe 100 systems) I would >> suggest you invest your time working with OVAL [1] and CVE [2]: >> >> a) deploy an OVAL agent at the nodes with apt-capabilitie

Re: Mass update deployment strategy

2007-01-09 Thread Florian Weimer
* Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña: > If your installation where slightly bigger (maybe 100 systems) I would > suggest you invest your time working with OVAL [1] and CVE [2]: > > a) deploy an OVAL agent at the nodes with apt-capabilities > > b) have a central OVAL server send new signatures to nodes

Re: Mass update deployment strategy

2007-01-09 Thread FreekNL
Dear George, A setup that works well, is to work with your own Debian and/or Ubuntu repository, to which you only commit (apt-move) packages when you tested and approved beforehand. On your test setup you will see exactly what the impact will be from update X on configuration Y and you will have

Re: Mass update deployment strategy

2006-12-08 Thread dsr
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 05:32:35PM -0500, Joe Bouchard wrote: > I would say that if you let your machines blindly to an "apt-get update; > apt-get upgrade" every day, most of the time it won't be a problem, but > someday it may be a problem and you might render half your cluster > unbootable. Ther

Re: Mass update deployment strategy

2006-11-30 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 08:37:42PM +0100, mario wrote: > Do you have a strategy or anything to automate this task a little more? > The server farm is growing and i might have to look after 20 or 30 > installations soon. I can already see myself updating ubuntu/debian > installations all day long :(

Re: Mass update deployment strategy

2006-11-28 Thread Joe Bouchard
I would say that if you let your machines blindly to an "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade" every day, most of the time it won't be a problem, but someday it may be a problem and you might render half your cluster unbootable. There are various modifications to this "blind update" theme as others hav

Re: Mass update deployment strategy

2006-11-28 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 03:37:22PM -0500, George Georgalis wrote: > > for n in host1 host2 hostz; do > ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] "$ENV && $UPD ; $UPG && $UPC" > done Check out "dsh" and its option "-c" instead of this step :-) Marcin -- Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://marcin.

Re: Mass update deployment strategy

2006-11-27 Thread Koen Vereeken
On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 00:38 +0200, Mikko Rapeli wrote: > On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 03:52:40PM -0500, Morgan Walker wrote: > > There is also a package called cron-apt which will automatically update > > your debian machines and send you an email regarding what it updated. > > And upgraded, if you rea

Re: Mass update deployment strategy

2006-11-27 Thread Mikko Rapeli
On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 03:52:40PM -0500, Morgan Walker wrote: > There is also a package called cron-apt which will automatically update > your debian machines and send you an email regarding what it updated. And upgraded, if you really trust your package sources: $ cat /etc/cron-apt/action.d/9-d

Re: Mass update deployment strategy

2006-11-27 Thread Steve Kemp
On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 08:37:42PM +0100, mario wrote: > i am responsible for 10 (ubuntu and debian) installations so far. > I have installed apticron which informs me about updates frequently. > Actually, its that often that i sometimes need to invest 1h a day just > doing updates. Given the

RE: Mass update deployment strategy

2006-11-27 Thread Morgan Walker
@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Mass update deployment strategy On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 08:37:42PM +0100, mario wrote: >Hello List, > >i am responsible for 10 (ubuntu and debian) installations so far. >I have installed apticron which informs me about updates frequently. >Actually, its th

Re: Mass update deployment strategy

2006-11-27 Thread George Georgalis
On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 08:37:42PM +0100, mario wrote: >Hello List, > >i am responsible for 10 (ubuntu and debian) installations so far. >I have installed apticron which informs me about updates frequently. >Actually, its that often that i sometimes need to invest 1h a day just >doing updates. > >

Fwd: Mass update deployment strategy

2006-11-27 Thread Manuel García
-- Forwarded message -- From: Manuel García <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Nov 27, 2006 3:46 PM Subject: Re: Mass update deployment strategy To: mario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, if every machine have the same hardware you may use systemimager to do the upgrade, read about

Mass update deployment strategy

2006-11-27 Thread mario
Hello List, i am responsible for 10 (ubuntu and debian) installations so far. I have installed apticron which informs me about updates frequently. Actually, its that often that i sometimes need to invest 1h a day just doing updates. Do you have a strategy or anything to automate this task a litt