Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-20 Thread Haim Ashkenazi
Thanx for the input everybody, I think that from now on I will at least recommend to my clients about using ldap instead. Bye -- Haim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-20 Thread Haim Ashkenazi
Thanx for the input everybody, I think that from now on I will at least recommend to my clients about using ldap instead. Bye -- Haim

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Tarjei Huse
Networks needing a greater degree of privacy and authentication can try AFS/Kerberos (entailing non-free server-end software). Substituting LDAP-SSL for NIS is arguably a step forward, but then NFS remains a problem (No Friggin' Security). Doesn't NFS v4 answer some of these problems? Does

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread seph
Rick Moen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Networks needing a greater degree of privacy and authentication can try AFS/Kerberos (entailing non-free server-end software). depends what you mean by free. Are you aware of openafs? http://www.openafs.org seph -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting seph ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): depends what you mean by free. Are you aware of openafs? http://www.openafs.org That is of course derived from the IBM Transarc software. Hmmm. Some while back, I'd been lead to believe that only client-end software was available in open source. A quick

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Hanasaki JiJi
What is OpenAFS vs CODA? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 02:09:51AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting seph ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): depends what you mean by free. Are you aware of openafs? http://www.openafs.org That is of course derived from the IBM Transarc software. Hmmm. Some

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread David Ehle
As I understand it, OpenAFS is IBM sortware that was opensourced. Coda was a wholely opensource project to implement AFS. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. David. On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Hanasaki JiJi wrote: What is OpenAFS vs CODA? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2003

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 09:40:00AM -0600, David Ehle wrote: As I understand it, OpenAFS is IBM sortware that was opensourced. Coda was a wholely opensource project to implement AFS. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. No, CODA is not simply an AFS implementation. It is based on

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Dale Amon
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 09:40:00AM -0600, David Ehle wrote: As I understand it, OpenAFS is IBM sortware that was opensourced. Coda was a wholely opensource project to implement AFS. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Coda is another CMU SCS project (as was AFS, which btw stands

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread seph
Rick Moen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Quoting seph ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): depends what you mean by free. Are you aware of openafs? http://www.openafs.org That is of course derived from the IBM Transarc software. Hmmm. Some while back, I'd been lead to believe that only client-end software

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting seph ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): you might be thinking of Arla, which is a completely independent opensource afs client. http://www.stacken.kth.se/projekt/arla/ Nope. Last I heard, Arla was going nowhere, on account of lost mindshare when IBM/Transrc put OpenAFS under the IBM PL. Has that

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Tarjei Huse
Networks needing a greater degree of privacy and authentication can try AFS/Kerberos (entailing non-free server-end software). Substituting LDAP-SSL for NIS is arguably a step forward, but then NFS remains a problem (No Friggin' Security). Doesn't NFS v4 answer some of these problems? Does

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread seph
Rick Moen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Networks needing a greater degree of privacy and authentication can try AFS/Kerberos (entailing non-free server-end software). depends what you mean by free. Are you aware of openafs? http://www.openafs.org seph

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting seph ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): depends what you mean by free. Are you aware of openafs? http://www.openafs.org That is of course derived from the IBM Transarc software. Hmmm. Some while back, I'd been lead to believe that only client-end software was available in open source. A quick

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Hanasaki JiJi
What is OpenAFS vs CODA? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 02:09:51AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting seph ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): depends what you mean by free. Are you aware of openafs? http://www.openafs.org That is of course derived from the IBM Transarc software. Hmmm.

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread David Ehle
As I understand it, OpenAFS is IBM sortware that was opensourced. Coda was a wholely opensource project to implement AFS. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. David. On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Hanasaki JiJi wrote: What is OpenAFS vs CODA? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2003

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Thiemo Nagel
Hanasaki JiJi wrote: What is OpenAFS vs CODA? IIRC CODA has the limitation of needing 4% of volume size in RAM. And performance is very bad (IIRC like 150 kbytes/sec max on pentium 400). On a second thought: This was in a fully redundant setup - probably it has better performance in other

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 09:40:00AM -0600, David Ehle wrote: As I understand it, OpenAFS is IBM sortware that was opensourced. Coda was a wholely opensource project to implement AFS. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. No, CODA is not simply an AFS implementation. It is based on

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-19 Thread Dale Amon
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 09:40:00AM -0600, David Ehle wrote: As I understand it, OpenAFS is IBM sortware that was opensourced. Coda was a wholely opensource project to implement AFS. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Coda is another CMU SCS project (as was AFS, which btw stands

OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-18 Thread Haim Ashkenazi
Hi A friend just asked me this question and I got curious. say I'm equipped with a linux laptop and some knowledge, I can walk into a company that uses NIS, find out the settings (NISDOMAIN, free ip address, etc...) and join their domain. now I can login as root on my computer, su to any user

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-18 Thread Keegan Quinn
On Tuesday 18 March 2003 04:13 pm, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: Hi Hello, A friend just asked me this question and I got curious. say I'm equipped with a linux laptop and some knowledge, I can walk into a company that uses NIS, find out the settings (NISDOMAIN, free ip address, etc...) and join

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-18 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Haim Ashkenazi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): A friend just asked me this question and I got curious. say I'm equipped with a linux laptop and some knowledge, I can walk into a company that uses NIS, find out the settings (NISDOMAIN, free ip address, etc...) and join their domain. now I can

Re: OT: Is it so easy to break into an NIS?

2003-03-18 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Haim Ashkenazi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): A friend just asked me this question and I got curious. say I'm equipped with a linux laptop and some knowledge, I can walk into a company that uses NIS, find out the settings (NISDOMAIN, free ip address, etc...) and join their domain. now I can