Re: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-12 Thread Oyvind A. Holm

On 2001-11-10 00:17 Vineet Kumar wrote:

 * Sebastiaan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011109 14:44]:
  High,
 
  On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Ed Street wrote:
 
   Hey,
  
   Is there *anything* we can do about all this Spam that's getting on this
   list?
  

 Yes. We can silently ignore them rather than turn each one into a
 lengthy off-topic thread.

No. The number of spam messages on these lists is really beginning to
irritate me, it's getting bigger day by day. The task of
(un)subscribing to the list is pretty easy, so I really don't see the
problem of only allowing messages from members on the list.

Regards,
Øyvind

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Re: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-12 Thread Oyvind A. Holm
On 2001-11-10 00:17 Vineet Kumar wrote:

 * Sebastiaan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011109 14:44]:
  High,
 
  On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Ed Street wrote:
 
   Hey,
  
   Is there *anything* we can do about all this Spam that's getting on this
   list?
  

 Yes. We can silently ignore them rather than turn each one into a
 lengthy off-topic thread.

No. The number of spam messages on these lists is really beginning to
irritate me, it's getting bigger day by day. The task of
(un)subscribing to the list is pretty easy, so I really don't see the
problem of only allowing messages from members on the list.

Regards,
Øyvind

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RE: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-12 Thread Howland, Curtis
While the traffic load on debian-user, for instance, makes subscribing
just to ask one question somewhat hazardous to ones mailspool, I agree
with making debian-security posting by subscriber only. It really
isn't moderating, and doesn't take anyones time.

To whom should we address the suggestion?

Curt-

-Original Message-
From: Oyvind A. Holm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:26
To: Vineet Kumar
Cc: debian-security@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY
STRATEGY!!!


On 2001-11-10 00:17 Vineet Kumar wrote:

 * Sebastiaan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011109 14:44]:
  High,
 
  On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Ed Street wrote:
 
   Hey,
  
   Is there *anything* we can do about all this Spam that's getting
on this
   list?
  

 Yes. We can silently ignore them rather than turn each one into a
 lengthy off-topic thread.

No. The number of spam messages on these lists is really beginning to
irritate me, it's getting bigger day by day. The task of
(un)subscribing to the list is pretty easy, so I really don't see the
problem of only allowing messages from members on the list.

Regards,
Øyvind

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| Fingerprint: EAE5 DCA0 0626 5DAA 72F8  0435 2E2B E476 AD19 826C   |
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Re: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-10 Thread Vineet Kumar

* Sebastiaan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011109 14:44]:
 High,
 
 On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Ed Street wrote:
 
  Hey,
  
  Is there *anything* we can do about all this Spam that's getting on this
  list?
  

Yes. We can silently ignore them rather than turn each one into a
lengthy off-topic thread.

hypocritically,

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Re: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-10 Thread vdongen

Yes, we can send a bill
-Original Message-
From: Ed Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:09:54 -0500
Subject: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

 Hey,
 
 Is there *anything* we can do about all this Spam that's getting on
 this
 list?
 
 Ed
 
 



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Re: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-10 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Sebastiaan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011109 14:44]:
 High,
 
 On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Ed Street wrote:
 
  Hey,
  
  Is there *anything* we can do about all this Spam that's getting on this
  list?
  

Yes. We can silently ignore them rather than turn each one into a
lengthy off-topic thread.

hypocritically,

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Re: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-10 Thread vdongen
Yes, we can send a bill
-Original Message-
From: Ed Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:09:54 -0500
Subject: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

 Hey,
 
 Is there *anything* we can do about all this Spam that's getting on
 this
 list?
 
 Ed
 
 




SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-09 Thread Ed Street



Hey, 


Is 
there *anything* we can do about all this Spam that's getting on this 
list?

Ed

  -Original Message-From: HotDeals 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 3:01 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: INSURE 
  GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!
  


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Re: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-09 Thread Sebastiaan

High,

On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Ed Street wrote:

 Hey,
 
 Is there *anything* we can do about all this Spam that's getting on this
 list?
 
Wasn't there some rule that commercial mails posted to this list are
charged for a couple of thousends $$? Most spam is a commercial ad, so
there must be a lot of money going to the Debian project ;-).

Greetz,
Sebastiaan



  Ed
   -Original Message-
   From: HotDeals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 3:01 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!
 
 
 Sick of static  dropped calls?
 Worried that you or your loved ones won't be able to summon help in
 a crisis?  The Amazing ezBooster is the solution!
 
 
 


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Re: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-09 Thread Bud Rogers

On Friday 09 November 2001 16:43 pm, Sebastiaan wrote:
 High,
 
 On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Ed Street wrote:
 
  Hey,
  
  Is there *anything* we can do about all this Spam that's getting on 
this
  list?
  
 Wasn't there some rule that commercial mails posted to this list are
 charged for a couple of thousends $$? Most spam is a commercial ad, so
 there must be a lot of money going to the Debian project ;-).

So who's handling collections?

-- 
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Re: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-09 Thread Robert Davidson


Wouldn't it just be better if the lists accepted mail from members
only, and for those e-mail addresses that aren't subscribed, a couple
of list admins could approve them?

I don't think the fine for spam is being enforced, but I'm only
guessing.

Cya.


Bud Rogers wrote:
 
 On Friday 09 November 2001 16:43 pm, Sebastiaan wrote:
  High,
 
  On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Ed Street wrote:
 
   Hey,
  
   Is there *anything* we can do about all this Spam that's getting on
 this
   list?
  
  Wasn't there some rule that commercial mails posted to this list are
  charged for a couple of thousends $$? Most spam is a commercial ad, so
  there must be a lot of money going to the Debian project ;-).
 
 So who's handling collections?
 
 --
 Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 All things in moderation.  And not too much moderation either.
 
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Re: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-09 Thread Bud Rogers

On Friday 09 November 2001 17:46 pm, Robert Davidson wrote:
 Wouldn't it just be better if the lists accepted mail from members
 only, 

I have always thought so, but whenever that suggestion comes up on any of 
the debian lists it gets a pretty violent response.

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Re: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-09 Thread Robert Davidson

Bud Rogers wrote:
 
 On Friday 09 November 2001 17:46 pm, Robert Davidson wrote:
  Wouldn't it just be better if the lists accepted mail from members
  only,
 
 I have always thought so, but whenever that suggestion comes up on any of
 the debian lists it gets a pretty violent response.

yeah I know - I've seen it happen before a few times, but I think
thats probably the only real solution.  Until something like that
happens it's probably a waste of time even talking about it.

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Re: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-09 Thread Alain Tesio

My procmail rules catched the initial spam but not
the bunch of usual and useless replies.

Alain


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RE: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-09 Thread Ed Street

Hello,

I for one would be willing put put up with Spam of this nature as long as
the debian project collected the 'thousands' from the spamers.

Ed

 -Original Message-
 From: Bud Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bud
 Rogers
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 6:18 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY
 STRATEGY!!!


 On Friday 09 November 2001 16:43 pm, Sebastiaan wrote:
  High,
 
  On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Ed Street wrote:
 
   Hey,
  
   Is there *anything* we can do about all this Spam that's getting on
 this
   list?
  
  Wasn't there some rule that commercial mails posted to this list are
  charged for a couple of thousends $$? Most spam is a commercial ad, so
  there must be a lot of money going to the Debian project ;-).

 So who's handling collections?

 --
 Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 All things in moderation.  And not too much moderation either.


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Re: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-09 Thread Kenneth Pronovici

  On Friday 09 November 2001 17:46 pm, Robert Davidson wrote:
   Wouldn't it just be better if the lists accepted mail from members
   only,
  
  I have always thought so, but whenever that suggestion comes up on any of
  the debian lists it gets a pretty violent response.
 
 yeah I know - I've seen it happen before a few times, but I think
 thats probably the only real solution.  Until something like that
 happens it's probably a waste of time even talking about it.

There was a long discussion about this on the Curiosa list last month.
It's probably not worth repeating the entire thread here (we're starting
down that track).

http://lists.debian.org/debian-curiosa/2001/debian-curiosa-200110/msg00030.html

KEN

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SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-09 Thread Ed Street



Hey, 


Is 
there *anything* we can do about all this Spam that's getting on this 
list?

Ed

  -Original Message-From: HotDeals 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 3:01 
  AMTo: debian-security@lists.debian.orgSubject: INSURE 
  GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!
  


  Sick of static  dropped 
calls? Worried that you or your loved ones won't be able 
to summon help in a crisis? The Amazing ezBooster is the solution! 



Re: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-09 Thread Sebastiaan
High,

On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Ed Street wrote:

 Hey,
 
 Is there *anything* we can do about all this Spam that's getting on this
 list?
 
Wasn't there some rule that commercial mails posted to this list are
charged for a couple of thousends $$? Most spam is a commercial ad, so
there must be a lot of money going to the Debian project ;-).

Greetz,
Sebastiaan



  Ed
   -Original Message-
   From: HotDeals [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 3:01 AM
   To: debian-security@lists.debian.org
   Subject: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!
 
 
 Sick of static  dropped calls?
 Worried that you or your loved ones won't be able to summon help in
 a crisis?  The Amazing ezBooster is the solution!
 
 
 



Re: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-09 Thread Bud Rogers
On Friday 09 November 2001 16:43 pm, Sebastiaan wrote:
 High,
 
 On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Ed Street wrote:
 
  Hey,
  
  Is there *anything* we can do about all this Spam that's getting on 
this
  list?
  
 Wasn't there some rule that commercial mails posted to this list are
 charged for a couple of thousends $$? Most spam is a commercial ad, so
 there must be a lot of money going to the Debian project ;-).

So who's handling collections?

-- 
Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All things in moderation.  And not too much moderation either.



Re: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-09 Thread Robert Davidson

Wouldn't it just be better if the lists accepted mail from members
only, and for those e-mail addresses that aren't subscribed, a couple
of list admins could approve them?

I don't think the fine for spam is being enforced, but I'm only
guessing.

Cya.


Bud Rogers wrote:
 
 On Friday 09 November 2001 16:43 pm, Sebastiaan wrote:
  High,
 
  On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Ed Street wrote:
 
   Hey,
  
   Is there *anything* we can do about all this Spam that's getting on
 this
   list?
  
  Wasn't there some rule that commercial mails posted to this list are
  charged for a couple of thousends $$? Most spam is a commercial ad, so
  there must be a lot of money going to the Debian project ;-).
 
 So who's handling collections?
 
 --
 Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 All things in moderation.  And not too much moderation either.
 
 --
 To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-09 Thread Bud Rogers
On Friday 09 November 2001 17:46 pm, Robert Davidson wrote:
 Wouldn't it just be better if the lists accepted mail from members
 only, 

I have always thought so, but whenever that suggestion comes up on any of 
the debian lists it gets a pretty violent response.

-- 
Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All things in moderation.  And not too much moderation either.



Re: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-09 Thread Robert Davidson
Bud Rogers wrote:
 
 On Friday 09 November 2001 17:46 pm, Robert Davidson wrote:
  Wouldn't it just be better if the lists accepted mail from members
  only,
 
 I have always thought so, but whenever that suggestion comes up on any of
 the debian lists it gets a pretty violent response.

yeah I know - I've seen it happen before a few times, but I think
thats probably the only real solution.  Until something like that
happens it's probably a waste of time even talking about it.

-- 
Regards,
Robert Davidson.
http://www.mlug.org.au/



Re: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-09 Thread Alain Tesio
My procmail rules catched the initial spam but not
the bunch of usual and useless replies.

Alain



RE: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-09 Thread Ed Street
Hello,

I for one would be willing put put up with Spam of this nature as long as
the debian project collected the 'thousands' from the spamers.

Ed

 -Original Message-
 From: Bud Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bud
 Rogers
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 6:18 PM
 To: debian-security@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY
 STRATEGY!!!


 On Friday 09 November 2001 16:43 pm, Sebastiaan wrote:
  High,
 
  On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Ed Street wrote:
 
   Hey,
  
   Is there *anything* we can do about all this Spam that's getting on
 this
   list?
  
  Wasn't there some rule that commercial mails posted to this list are
  charged for a couple of thousends $$? Most spam is a commercial ad, so
  there must be a lot of money going to the Debian project ;-).

 So who's handling collections?

 --
 Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 All things in moderation.  And not too much moderation either.


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Re: SPAM was RE: INSURE GOOD RECEPTION! VITAL EMERGENCY STRATEGY!!!

2001-11-09 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
  On Friday 09 November 2001 17:46 pm, Robert Davidson wrote:
   Wouldn't it just be better if the lists accepted mail from members
   only,
  
  I have always thought so, but whenever that suggestion comes up on any of
  the debian lists it gets a pretty violent response.
 
 yeah I know - I've seen it happen before a few times, but I think
 thats probably the only real solution.  Until something like that
 happens it's probably a waste of time even talking about it.

There was a long discussion about this on the Curiosa list last month.
It's probably not worth repeating the entire thread here (we're starting
down that track).

http://lists.debian.org/debian-curiosa/2001/debian-curiosa-200110/msg00030.html

KEN

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 temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. 
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