Re: sources.list for potato

2002-06-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Previously Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
  For a truly stable Debian system, drop 
  
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian dists/potato-proposed-updates/
 
 I wouldn't recommend that, on occasion a package makes it into
 proposed-updates that really should not be installed on a potato reason
 for some reason.

Uhm, I suggested to *drop* that line from one's sources.list.  Surely,
you would recommend that if packages in proposed-updates really should
not be installed on a potato machine, wouldn't you?
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Re: sources.list for potato

2002-06-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
 For a truly stable Debian system, drop 
 
   deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian dists/potato-proposed-updates/

I wouldn't recommend that, on occasion a package makes it into
proposed-updates that really should not be installed on a potato reason
for some reason.

Wichert.

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Re: sources.list for potato

2002-06-21 Thread Jamie Heilman
Wichert Akkerman wrote:

 Previously Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
  For a truly stable Debian system, drop 
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian dists/potato-proposed-updates/
 
 I wouldn't recommend that, on occasion a package makes it into
 proposed-updates that really should not be installed on a potato reason
 for some reason.

Yeah, I second that.  If you're going to poke around in
prosposed-updates you should do it on a machine that isn't in
production, sometimes things like bug #121305 happen.  Speaking of
which, Wichert, as OpenLDAP is your baby now, you wanna close that old
bug out?  Ben never did and its pretty much moot now as that bad
package never made it into primetime.

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Re: sources.list for potato

2002-06-21 Thread Pavel Minev Penev
On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 08:22:32AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
 Mike Dresser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Hate to beat a dead horse, but
  
  
  deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free
  deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian dists/potato-proposed-updates/
  
  deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib
  non-free
  deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-security potato/updates main contrib
  non-free
  
  deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security potato/updates main contrib
  non-free
  
  
  is all I need on my sources.list for potato, right?
  
  And when I move to woody someday, just s/potato/woody/, correct?
 
 For a truly stable Debian system, drop 
 
   deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian dists/potato-proposed-updates/
 
 (wait for official release updates) and then just s/potato/stable/g.
 Note that non-US is being phased out.

And there is no

deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-security unstable/updates main 
contrib non-free

, is it?

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Re: sources.list for potato

2002-06-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Pavel Minev Penev wrote:
 And there is no
 
   deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-security unstable/updates main 
 contrib non-free
 
 , is it?

No, and there never will be.

Wichert.

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Re: sources.list for potato

2002-06-21 Thread vdongen
-Original Message-
From: Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 16:05:10 +0200
Subject: Re: sources.list for potato

 Previously Pavel Minev Penev wrote:
  And there is no
  
  deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-security unstable/updates 
main
 contrib non-free
  
  , is it?
 
 No, and there never will be.
There is a very simple and understandable reason, the unstable archive 
is updated/fixed on the fly. So patches and security bugs are fixed 
while doing other upgrades. There is absolutely no need for a security 
line in sources.list

Greetings,

Ivo van Dongen
ISW Systeembeheer



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sources.list for potato

2002-06-20 Thread Mike Dresser
Hate to beat a dead horse, but


deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian dists/potato-proposed-updates/

deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib
non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-security potato/updates main contrib
non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security potato/updates main contrib
non-free


is all I need on my sources.list for potato, right?

And when I move to woody someday, just s/potato/woody/, correct?

Mike


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Re: sources.list for potato

2002-06-20 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Mike Dresser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hate to beat a dead horse, but
 
 
 deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free
 deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian dists/potato-proposed-updates/
 
 deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib
 non-free
 deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-security potato/updates main contrib
 non-free
 
 deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security potato/updates main contrib
 non-free
 
 
 is all I need on my sources.list for potato, right?
 
 And when I move to woody someday, just s/potato/woody/, correct?

For a truly stable Debian system, drop 

  deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian dists/potato-proposed-updates/

(wait for official release updates) and then just s/potato/stable/g.
Note that non-US is being phased out.
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Re: sources.list for potato

2002-06-20 Thread Geoff Crompton
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 23:22, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
 (wait for official release updates) and then just s/potato/stable/g.
 Note that non-US is being phased out.

  Can you point me to the mail-archive thread that discusses this?(I haven't 
been following debian lists for very long).

  Cheers
  Geoff Crompton


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Re: sources.list for potato

2002-06-20 Thread Mike Dresser
 For a truly stable Debian system, drop

   deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian dists/potato-proposed-updates/

 (wait for official release updates) and then just s/potato/stable/g.
 Note that non-US is being phased out.

I've seen way too many packages that take too long to get into stable when
there's security holes.



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Re: sources.list for potato

2002-06-20 Thread Geoff Crompton
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 00:36, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
 Geoff Crompton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 23:22, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
   (wait for official release updates) and then just s/potato/stable/g.
   Note that non-US is being phased out.
 
Can you point me to the mail-archive thread that discusses this?(I
  haven't been following debian lists for very long).

 Oops!  I confused the crypto in main issue with non-US being phased
 out.  Of course, the patented bits will stay in non-US so it will not
 disappear in the foreseeable future.

  What is the 'cypto in main' issue? (Or better, have you got a URL on it?)
I searched the devel mailing archive for 'crypto AND in AND main' to no
avail.

  Cheers
  Geoff Crompton


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Re: sources.list for potato

2002-06-20 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Geoff Crompton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Oops!  I confused the crypto in main issue with non-US being phased
  out.  Of course, the patented bits will stay in non-US so it will not
  disappear in the foreseeable future.
 
   What is the 'cypto in main' issue? (Or better, have you got a URL
 on it?)  I searched the devel mailing archive for 'crypto AND in AND
 main' to no avail.

Try again for the debian-legal mailing archive and at

  http://www.debian.org/legal/cryptoinmain

HTH,
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Re: sources.list for potato

2002-06-20 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Mike Dresser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  For a truly stable Debian system, drop
 
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian dists/potato-proposed-updates/
 
  (wait for official release updates) and then just s/potato/stable/g.
  Note that non-US is being phased out.
 
 I've seen way too many packages that take too long to get into stable when
 there's security holes.

That's why you have 

  deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main

at the top of your /etc/apt/sources.list, not?
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