[Request received] spam

2016-07-02 Thread iTel Networks
. -- Debian-security, Jul 2, 09:35 PDT spam spam spam This email is a service from iTel Networks. [1V9E27-KX6N]

Re: fighting spam

2016-04-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 6:28 PM, Davide Prina wrote: > I think this is a very bad solution. .. > I think the actual policy is the best one. Debian already uses RBLs to block spam from the lists, another one wouldn't be anything new. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

RE: fighting spam

2016-04-25 Thread Wadih Maalouf
Because we can't block all spam doesn't mean we shouldn't try to block any. I think the solution is multi-dimensional on the other hand there are some dedicated IP's that exclusively send spam, there shouldn't not be a way to block these. -Original Message- From: Davide Prina

Re: fighting spam

2016-04-25 Thread Davide Prina
On 25/04/2016 10:58, Paul Wise wrote: On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 6:14 PM, SZÉPE Viktor wrote: Please consider using http://psky.me/ to keep spam out of the list. The people running the Debian lists can be contacted here: https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#maintenance I've forwarded your

Re: fighting spam

2016-04-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 6:14 PM, SZÉPE Viktor wrote: > Please consider using http://psky.me/ to keep spam out of the list. The people running the Debian lists can be contacted here: https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#maintenance I've forwarded your suggestion to them. -- bye, pabs ht

fighting spam

2016-04-22 Thread SZÉPE Viktor
Please consider using http://psky.me/ to keep spam out of the list. Thank you! SZÉPE Viktor -- +36-20-4242498 s...@szepe.net skype: szepe.viktor Budapest, III. kerület

SPAM?: Fwd: Your NY Photos

2013-01-15 Thread Demetra May
Spam detection software, running on the system webmail.streamwave.com, has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see postmas...@streamwave.com

This is not SPAM

2011-05-08 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
This message isn't SPAM, so you can reply to it. Please don't reply to SPAM messages, and when you absolutely *must* do not quote SPAM message. Either of these actions make it much harder for the administrators and automated systems to identify and remove SPAM from the mailing lists. If you

mitacs.com is a spam domain - configure your mail server to block it

2010-07-14 Thread Russell Coker
Every message that you send to supp...@mitacs.com will be resent to debian- security. Every message you send to postmaster or abuse will be ignored. Please everyone, configure your mail servers to block all mail from 85.125.218.18 and all mail with @mitacs.com in the From: field. If you really

Re: mitacs.com is a spam domain - configure your mail server to block it

2010-07-14 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Russell Coker and *, for some minutes I have called MITACS in Austria and the support Person is a REAL employee. They asked me for one of the message with full headers to find out whats going on here. I think, hey will call me back. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening

Re: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Dom, 04 Jul 2010, Jim Popovitch wrote: I beleive d.o can (and should) attempt to block 100% of spam. While I'm in no way associated with Debian mailing list management, I'm pretty certain they do attempt to block 100% of spam. But attempting it and achieving it are two different things

Re: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread Bjoern Meier
hi, 2010/7/5 Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br: . No system will ever be 100% accurate and filter all spams. Right. But less then 99.8% - for a private system (which the list is not) - is not tolerable. Can the list track how spam is blocked and - maybe - an overview how effective

Re: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread Wojciech Ziniewicz
spam is blocked and - maybe - an overview how effective this is (like graphs over a few periods)? [...] Personally i get 0-5 spam messages per month from the debian-isp and debian-security list that are not filtered and appear as non-spam messages. Moreover i see that in my spam folder i have

Re: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread Eliad B
how spam is blocked and - maybe - an overview how effective this is (like graphs over a few periods)? greetings, Björ Hi, just some obvious calculations: assuming that all blocked emails are indeed spams, we have: /blocked-spams / all-spams = blocked-mail / ( blocked-mail + not-blocked-spam

Re: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread Bjoern Meier
hi, 2010/7/5 Wojciech Ziniewicz wojciech.ziniew...@gmail.com: 2010/7/5 Bjoern Meier bjoern.me...@googlemail.com Personally i get 0-5 spam messages per month from the debian-isp and debian-security list that are not filtered and appear as non-spam messages. Moreover i see that in my spam

RE: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread Roger Hanna
Ok Folks, really, your mails about the spam are starting to actually spam! Wait, this email is then also considered a spam about spamming. You just can't win. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-security-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 09:49, Roger Hanna ru...@rogers.com wrote: Ok Folks, really, your mails about the spam are starting to actually spam! Wait, this email is then also considered a spam about spamming. You just can't win. Good thing the FOSS ppl don't think like that. -Jim P

Re: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread CaT
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 02:23:03PM +0200, Wojciech Ziniewicz wrote: Personally i get 0-5 spam messages per month from the debian-isp and debian-security list that are not filtered and appear as non-spam messages. Moreover i see that in my spam folder i have like 3-7 spam messages per hour

Re: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread Arthur Machlas
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 3:31 PM, CaT c...@zip.com.au wrote: On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 02:23:03PM +0200, Wojciech Ziniewicz wrote: Personally i get 0-5 spam messages per month from the debian-isp and debian-security list that are not filtered and appear as non-spam messages. Moreover i see

Re: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 17:38, Arthur Machlas arthur.mach...@gmail.com wrote: Forward all mail to a gmail account, then forward back to Debian's list-servs. Spam problem solved. except Debian pushes hard for their outbound mail host to be whitelisted... which is also a reason the default

Re: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Guys, this is all spam to me. It's coming to the point where I just want to usubscribe rather then keep watching this ridiculous flame war. Let's be big boys and gals and stop fighting. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Jim Popovitch jim...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 17:38, Arthur

Re: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread Arthur Machlas
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Jim Popovitch jim...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 17:38, Arthur Machlas arthur.mach...@gmail.com wrote: Forward all mail to a gmail account, then forward back to Debian's list-servs. Spam problem solved. except Debian pushes hard for their outbound

Re: [ SPAM! ] [SECURITY] [DSA 1594-1] New imlib2 packages fix arbitrary code execution

2008-06-11 Thread nicolas . foucher
Bonjour Je suis absent jusqu'au 16 juin. Vous pouvez envoyer vos demandes à [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am out of the office until june the 16th. You can send your request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Nicolas Foucher - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Responsable Technique CARRENET - Solutions CRM 100% Web

Re: [ SPAM! ] [SECURITY] [DSA 1594-1] New imlib2 packages fix arbitrary code execution

2008-06-11 Thread Michael Loftis
. The fact the autobot responded to the list, or the fact that it responded to something that had been identified as SPAM. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: {Spam?} Re: woody kernel image

2005-02-03 Thread Adam Majer
Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2005-01-30 15:32:25, schrieb Sam Morris: Wow, I missed that! Should not the kernel-image-2.4.28-* packages be removed from the archive, since they are unsupported, and *very* dangerous to use? Sorry, that I ask, but where ist 2.4.28 ? The

{Spam?} Re: woody kernel image

2005-01-30 Thread Sam Morris
Michelle Konzack wrote: Where is it posted that the dropped support for 2.4.18? It was on debian-devel and debian-kernel They told, there are too much kernels to maintain and droped 2.4.(18-22) They sugested to use one of the Backports. Wow, I missed that! Should not the kernel-image-2.4.28-*

{Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: woody kernel image

2005-01-30 Thread Sam Morris
Sam Morris wrote: Wow, I missed that! Should not the kernel-image-2.4.28-* packages be ^ should be 2.4.18, sorry :) -- Sam Morris http://robots.org.uk/ PGP key id 5EA01078 Fingerprint 3412 EA18 1277 354B

Re: {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: woody kernel image

2005-01-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-01-30 16:02:23, schrieb Sam Morris: Sam Morris wrote: Wow, I missed that! Should not the kernel-image-2.4.28-* packages be ^ should be 2.4.18, sorry :) :-) Generaly there is no reason to

Re: {Spam?} Re: woody kernel image

2005-01-30 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
* Michelle Konzack wrote: There will be no new version of 2.4.XX Wrong. Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Norbert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

plz. recommand best anti-spam sites and books.

2005-01-23 Thread 고원봉
hello, there. i have a problem. :( now, I'm dealing with spamssended from so many place in the world. but i'm new in this field like anti-spam and e-mail. so i want to know how to deal with spams and , especially, analyzemail header. Ifyou know good anti-spam sites or books,let me

Re: OT, spam tips.

2004-10-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
in my SPAM-Box with the procmail filter attached... Most are catched by sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org and never I had FP's. cn-kr.blackholes.us dynablock.njabl.org bl.spamcop.net cbl.abuseat.org dnsbl-2.uceprotect.net taiwan.blackholes.us Hmm, maybe I will add them to my list to get the last 5

Re: OT, spam tips.

2004-10-22 Thread Lupe Christoph
Quoting tomasz abramowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: sorry about the off topic, but maybe you guys at debian can fix what my internet provider is talking about? No problem, spam is always interesting to look at (well, at least for me ;). But when I see that they use SBL/XBL yet they still pass

Re: !SPAM! [Full-Disclosure] Automated ssh scanning

2004-08-26 Thread Jan Luehr
Greetings, Am Donnerstag, 26. August 2004 16:43 schrieb Ron DuFresne: On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Richard Verwayen wrote: On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 15:12, Todd Towles wrote: The kernel could be save. But with weak passwords, you are toast. Any automated tool would test guest/guest. Hello Todd!

Re: !SPAM! [Full-Disclosure] Automated ssh scanning

2004-08-26 Thread Ron DuFresne
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Jan Luehr wrote: Greetings, Am Donnerstag, 26. August 2004 16:43 schrieb Ron DuFresne: On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Richard Verwayen wrote: On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 15:12, Todd Towles wrote: The kernel could be save. But with weak passwords, you are toast. Any automated

Re: !SPAM! [Full-Disclosure] Automated ssh scanning

2004-08-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Jan Luehr: So your point is, there a much already known local root exploits on an standard woody system no one cares about? For those of you who don't subscribe to full-disclosure, the following information might be a bit reassuring. A clearer image of what's going is now emerging (a

Re: Hashcash - was re: Spam fights

2004-06-16 Thread Hubert Chan
Russell == Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Russell On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 22:34, Patrick Maheral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that most people here don't like CR systems, and I'd have to agree with that consensus. I'm just wondering what is the general feeling about using hashcash

Re: Hashcash - was re: Spam fights

2004-06-16 Thread Hubert Chan
on the envelope Russell recipient and therefore signatures you find on someone else's Russell machine would not do any good. If it was otherwise then a Russell single signature would work for an entire spam run. Yes. In hashcash, the hashcash token uses the recipient's address, as well as a date

Re: Hashcash - was re: Spam fights

2004-06-16 Thread Daniel Pittman
. ...makes you wonder how long it will take before someone does generate the headers in SPAM, then. Being in SpamAssassin seems to be a trigger point for a whole lot of things to be worth avoiding/abusing for spammers - the silly haiku header thing being one example. Russell Besides, with an army

Re: Hashcash - was re: Spam fights

2004-06-16 Thread Hubert Chan
generate the headers in SPAM, then. Being in SpamAssassin seems Daniel to be a trigger point for a whole lot of things to be worth Daniel avoiding/abusing for spammers - the silly haiku header thing Daniel being one example. Well SpamAssassin, AFAIK, will do proper hashcash checking, including

Re: Hashcash - was re: Spam fights

2004-06-16 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 11:38:10AM -0400, Hubert Chan wrote: tokens in order to get any effect from SpamAssassin. Other than using zombies, I don't think spammers could afford to generate real tokens for every recipient. Well, since there are millions of vulnerable systems all over the 'net that

Re: Hashcash - was re: Spam fights

2004-06-16 Thread Hubert Chan
Russell == Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Russell On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 22:34, Patrick Maheral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that most people here don't like CR systems, and I'd have to agree with that consensus. I'm just wondering what is the general feeling about using hashcash

Re: Hashcash - was re: Spam fights

2004-06-16 Thread Daniel Pittman
. ...makes you wonder how long it will take before someone does generate the headers in SPAM, then. Being in SpamAssassin seems to be a trigger point for a whole lot of things to be worth avoiding/abusing for spammers - the silly haiku header thing being one example. Russell Besides, with an army

Re: Hashcash - was re: Spam fights

2004-06-16 Thread Hubert Chan
generate the headers in SPAM, then. Being in SpamAssassin seems Daniel to be a trigger point for a whole lot of things to be worth Daniel avoiding/abusing for spammers - the silly haiku header thing Daniel being one example. Well SpamAssassin, AFAIK, will do proper hashcash checking, including

Re: Hashcash - was re: Spam fights

2004-06-16 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 11:38:10AM -0400, Hubert Chan wrote: tokens in order to get any effect from SpamAssassin. Other than using zombies, I don't think spammers could afford to generate real tokens for every recipient. Well, since there are millions of vulnerable systems all over the 'net

Re: [OT] Spam fights

2004-06-15 Thread Alain Tesio
Here is a list of junk subject patterns in case someone is interested. Alain junkMailPatterns.gz Description: Binary data

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-15 Thread Alain Tesio
Can the mailing list software add a X-Subscribed : yes/no in the mail headers ? Then people decide to filter it out or not. Alain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] Spam fights

2004-06-15 Thread Alain Tesio
Here is a list of junk subject patterns in case someone is interested. Alain junkMailPatterns.gz Description: Binary data

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-15 Thread Alain Tesio
Can the mailing list software add a X-Subscribed : yes/no in the mail headers ? Then people decide to filter it out or not. Alain

Re: [OT] Spam fights

2004-06-13 Thread no name supplied
+0300, Dmitry Golubev wrote: I second that. If I receive a confirmation message I never respond to it! If *I* receive a confirmation message, I always respond to it! That's because all confirmation messages I get are in response to spam with my address in the From field. If I confirm, the person

Re: [OT] Spam fights

2004-06-13 Thread s. keeling
second that. If I receive a confirmation message I never respond to it! If *I* receive a confirmation message, I always respond to it! That's because all confirmation messages I get are in response to spam with my address in the From field. If I confirm, the person sending me

Re: [OT] Spam fights

2004-06-13 Thread no name supplied
+0300, Dmitry Golubev wrote: I second that. If I receive a confirmation message I never respond to it! If *I* receive a confirmation message, I always respond to it! That's because all confirmation messages I get are in response to spam with my address in the From field. If I confirm, the person

Re: [OT] Spam fights

2004-06-13 Thread s. keeling
second that. If I receive a confirmation message I never respond to it! If *I* receive a confirmation message, I always respond to it! That's because all confirmation messages I get are in response to spam with my address in the From field. If I confirm, the person sending me

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-12 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 04:22, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Incoming from Rick Moen: Quoting Russell Coker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Some of the anti-spam people are very enthusiastic about their work. I wouldn't be surprised if someone writes a bot to deal with CR systems. A bot

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-12 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 04:22, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Incoming from Rick Moen: Quoting Russell Coker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Some of the anti-spam people are very enthusiastic about their work. I wouldn't be surprised if someone writes a bot to deal with CR systems. A bot

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-11 Thread Dale Amon
to spam are not implimented that cover non-NANOG type persons. I strongly suspect we'll see a generation of mail systems which greylist by default at the very least. Perhaps a future secreterial job will be to wade through the muck and query the boss as to whether one or two should be allowed

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-11 Thread Michelle Konzack
on postgresql.org, php.net, mutt.org, exim.org and others where I get not more then a half SPAM per month. I am on 146 Mailinglists 46 and on this list I get 80% of the normal SPAM (not the last two days) Because the SPAM filter of murphy works quiet well, I like to see a subscriber only List too

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-11 Thread Russell Coker
it or not (and I don't) that is where we are headed if other solutions to spam are not implimented that cover non-NANOG type persons. I strongly suspect It won't work because challenge-response systems are technically no good. While CR systems are almost never used because the people who use them

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-11 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
by spammers. [snip] You are right in everything except the tense - it's already happening. I've had friends that use the CR systems reporting that spammers did reply to their challenges. Apparently this is done by the put your computer to work victims that spam from their home accounts sometimes even w/o

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-11 Thread Greg Folkert
, in many cases when I'm sending email to address found on website I'm receiving challenge, and I fully understand people doing it. Whitelist with email/IP can decrease also number of challenges from spammers: email comming from different IP can be treated as spam automatically. I implemented

Hashcash - was re: Spam fights

2004-06-11 Thread Patrick Maheral
It seems that most people here don't like CR systems, and I'd have to agree with that consensus. I'm just wondering what is the general feeling about using hashcash and other header signatures systems. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-11 Thread Russell Coker
into the decision. Some of the anti-spam people are very enthusiastic about their work. I wouldn't be surprised if someone writes a bot to deal with CR systems. It should not be technically difficult to publish some email addresses, wait for challenge messages to come in response to virus messages

Re: Hashcash - was re: Spam fights

2004-06-11 Thread Russell Coker
accept only such messages because almost no-one sends them. Most people see no need to send them because almost no-one checks for them when receiving a message. Anti-spam measures may be used on workstations eventually, but have to be initially installed at servers if they are to become popular

Re: Hashcash - was re: Spam fights

2004-06-11 Thread Rens Houben
In other news for Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 11:24:05PM +1000, Russell Coker has been seen typing: Besides, with an army of Windows Zombies you could generate those signatures anyway... Why bother, when said windows machines will have perfectly good signatures stored on them somewhere already? --

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-11 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Russell Coker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Some of the anti-spam people are very enthusiastic about their work. I wouldn't be surprised if someone writes a bot to deal with CR systems. A bot to detect C-R queries and add them to the refused-mail ACL list would be most useful

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-11 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Rick Moen: Quoting Russell Coker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Some of the anti-spam people are very enthusiastic about their work. I wouldn't be surprised if someone writes a bot to deal with CR systems. A bot to detect C-R queries and add them to the refused-mail ACL list would

Re: Hashcash - was re: Spam fights

2004-06-11 Thread Russell Coker
will have perfectly good signatures stored on them somewhere already? Presumably the signature would be based on the envelope recipient and therefore signatures you find on someone else's machine would not do any good. If it was otherwise then a single signature would work for an entire spam run

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-11 Thread Dale Amon
to spam are not implimented that cover non-NANOG type persons. I strongly suspect we'll see a generation of mail systems which greylist by default at the very least. Perhaps a future secreterial job will be to wade through the muck and query the boss as to whether one or two should be allowed

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-11 Thread Michelle Konzack
on postgresql.org, php.net, mutt.org, exim.org and others where I get not more then a half SPAM per month. I am on 146 Mailinglists 46 and on this list I get 80% of the normal SPAM (not the last two days) Because the SPAM filter of murphy works quiet well, I like to see a subscriber only List too

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-11 Thread Russell Coker
it or not (and I don't) that is where we are headed if other solutions to spam are not implimented that cover non-NANOG type persons. I strongly suspect It won't work because challenge-response systems are technically no good. While CR systems are almost never used because the people who use them

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-11 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
by spammers. [snip] You are right in everything except the tense - it's already happening. I've had friends that use the CR systems reporting that spammers did reply to their challenges. Apparently this is done by the put your computer to work victims that spam from their home accounts sometimes even w/o

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-11 Thread Dale Amon
unsolicted email, then your business model will include the wages of a presorter. They are cheaper than a knowledgeable mail admin. As to the type in this random code from a jpeg, I use that on samizdata (a major blog for which I'm one of the editors). It stopped the problem of blog-spam cold

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-11 Thread Greg Folkert
. Currently, in many cases when I'm sending email to address found on website I'm receiving challenge, and I fully understand people doing it. Whitelist with email/IP can decrease also number of challenges from spammers: email comming from different IP can be treated as spam automatically. I

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-11 Thread Russell Coker
into the decision. Some of the anti-spam people are very enthusiastic about their work. I wouldn't be surprised if someone writes a bot to deal with CR systems. It should not be technically difficult to publish some email addresses, wait for challenge messages to come in response to virus messages

Re: Hashcash - was re: Spam fights

2004-06-11 Thread Russell Coker
accept only such messages because almost no-one sends them. Most people see no need to send them because almost no-one checks for them when receiving a message. Anti-spam measures may be used on workstations eventually, but have to be initially installed at servers if they are to become popular

Re: Hashcash - was re: Spam fights

2004-06-11 Thread Rens Houben
In other news for Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 11:24:05PM +1000, Russell Coker has been seen typing: Besides, with an army of Windows Zombies you could generate those signatures anyway... Why bother, when said windows machines will have perfectly good signatures stored on them somewhere already? --

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-11 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Russell Coker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Some of the anti-spam people are very enthusiastic about their work. I wouldn't be surprised if someone writes a bot to deal with CR systems. A bot to detect C-R queries and add them to the refused-mail ACL list would be most useful. ;-

Re: Hashcash - was re: Spam fights

2004-06-11 Thread Russell Coker
will have perfectly good signatures stored on them somewhere already? Presumably the signature would be based on the envelope recipient and therefore signatures you find on someone else's machine would not do any good. If it was otherwise then a single signature would work for an entire spam run

Spam fights

2004-06-10 Thread Jaroslaw Tabor
Hi all! As I see, there ia a lot of issues regarding spam, so I'd like to add something from me:) Because my email was used on many discussion lists, I was receiving sometimes over 100 spam emails per day. A long time ago I've started fighting with them using many different

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-10 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:21, Jaroslaw Tabor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are allowing all emails from whitelits. Who is we in this context? Individual users or mailing list administrators? For unknown sender, automated confirmation request is send. If For mailing lists this can be achieved by

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-10 Thread Dmitry Golubev
I second that. If I receive a confirmation message I never respond to it! (well, when I first received such a message, I wanted to try how it works - that was the only confirmation I responded to). Maybe that's impolite, but I do not want to waste my time answering to that spam. Dmitry

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-10 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 12:27:04PM +0300, Dmitry Golubev wrote: I second that. If I receive a confirmation message I never respond to it! Me three. I take a confirmation thingy as a sign that the person doesn't really need my email. Hint: if you require confirmations from people who are replying

challenge-response antispam systems in the BTS (was Re: Spam fights)

2004-06-10 Thread Adeodato Simó
to). Maybe that's impolite, but I do not want to waste my time answering to that spam. has it been discussed before the usage of such systems by bug submitters? I've come up with this situation twice or so, and I found myself thinking what the hell, they're putting extra work

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-10 Thread Richard Atterer
On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 12:27:04PM +0300, Dmitry Golubev wrote: I second that. If I receive a confirmation message I never respond to it! If *I* receive a confirmation message, I always respond to it! That's because all confirmation messages I get are in response to spam with my address

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-10 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 04:58, Russell Coker wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:21, Jaroslaw Tabor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm planning to develop this feauture, but It will be nice to hear from what you thing about this idea. Don't do it. Confirmation systems are just as bad as the problems

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-10 Thread Alain Tesio
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:58:33 +1000 Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For mailing lists this can be achieved by making the list subscriber-only. For individual accounts such behaviour is very anti-social as it results in confirmation messages being sent in response to virus messages.

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-10 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
For mailing lists this can be achieved by making the list subscriber-only. For individual accounts such behaviour is very anti-social as it results in confirmation messages being sent in response to virus messages. Not if the message if refused by the smtp server before it's delivered,

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-10 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 06:03, Alain Tesio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:58:33 +1000 Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For mailing lists this can be achieved by making the list subscriber-only. For individual accounts such behaviour is very anti-social as it results in

Spam fights

2004-06-10 Thread Jaroslaw Tabor
Hi all! As I see, there ia a lot of issues regarding spam, so I'd like to add something from me:) Because my email was used on many discussion lists, I was receiving sometimes over 100 spam emails per day. A long time ago I've started fighting with them using many different

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-10 Thread Dmitry Golubev
I second that. If I receive a confirmation message I never respond to it! (well, when I first received such a message, I wanted to try how it works - that was the only confirmation I responded to). Maybe that's impolite, but I do not want to waste my time answering to that spam. Dmitry

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-10 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 12:27:04PM +0300, Dmitry Golubev wrote: I second that. If I receive a confirmation message I never respond to it! Me three. I take a confirmation thingy as a sign that the person doesn't really need my email. Hint: if you require confirmations from people who are

challenge-response antispam systems in the BTS (was Re: Spam fights)

2004-06-10 Thread Adeodato Simó
to). Maybe that's impolite, but I do not want to waste my time answering to that spam. has it been discussed before the usage of such systems by bug submitters? I've come up with this situation twice or so, and I found myself thinking what the hell, they're putting extra work

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-10 Thread Richard Atterer
On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 12:27:04PM +0300, Dmitry Golubev wrote: I second that. If I receive a confirmation message I never respond to it! If *I* receive a confirmation message, I always respond to it! That's because all confirmation messages I get are in response to spam with my address

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-10 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 04:58, Russell Coker wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:21, Jaroslaw Tabor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm planning to develop this feauture, but It will be nice to hear from what you thing about this idea. Don't do it. Confirmation systems are just as bad as the problems

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-10 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya jaroslaw On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Jaroslaw Tabor wrote: In mean time, I've found additional way for spam filtering, but it requires some development. The basic idea is simple and already in use: We are allowing all emails from whitelits. already done ... most MTA support a whitelist

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-10 Thread Alain Tesio
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:58:33 +1000 Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For mailing lists this can be achieved by making the list subscriber-only. For individual accounts such behaviour is very anti-social as it results in confirmation messages being sent in response to virus messages.

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-10 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
For mailing lists this can be achieved by making the list subscriber-only. For individual accounts such behaviour is very anti-social as it results in confirmation messages being sent in response to virus messages. Not if the message if refused by the smtp server before it's delivered,

Re: Spam fights

2004-06-10 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 06:03, Alain Tesio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:58:33 +1000 Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For mailing lists this can be achieved by making the list subscriber-only. For individual accounts such behaviour is very anti-social as it results in

Re: Unusual spam recently - hummm

2004-06-08 Thread Master_PE
Op za 05-06-2004, om 10:26 schreef Kjetil Kjernsmo: On fredag 4. juni 2004, 03:24, s. keeling wrote: I'm sick of whitelisting. It doesn't work if you care about communicating with people you've never met. Me too. And I think that most absolutes, whether it is a single rule to accept an

Re: Unusual spam recently - hummm

2004-06-08 Thread Master_PE
Op za 05-06-2004, om 10:26 schreef Kjetil Kjernsmo: On fredag 4. juni 2004, 03:24, s. keeling wrote: I'm sick of whitelisting. It doesn't work if you care about communicating with people you've never met. Me too. And I think that most absolutes, whether it is a single rule to accept an

Re: Unusual spam recently - hummm - postprocess

2004-06-07 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Michael Stone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): You're talking about SPF. That's a concept, not an implementation. Implementation details have already been posted. Effective use of SPF requires widespread adoption. Until/unless widespread adoption happens the promises of SPF are vaporware.

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