do you know what the word sollicitors mean? i don't think so, you should
go to school you lil' brainless.
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celle qui différencie l'humain de l'animal.
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... don't know if it's happening to others, however I seem to be
receiving mail from the 'Is Ident secure' thread of earlier in September
(with the idiot who was subscribed and who wouldn't/couldn't unsubscribe
himself) ... is anyone else seeing this replay?
I have the original in my mailbox if
On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 09:45:49AM +1000, Malcolm Herbert wrote:
... don't know if it's happening to others, however I seem to be
receiving mail from the 'Is Ident secure' thread of earlier in September
(with the idiot who was subscribed and who wouldn't/couldn't unsubscribe
himself) ... is
do you know what the word sollicitors mean? i don't think so, you should
go to school you lil' brainless.
--
La bonne humeur est une vertue,
celle qui différencie l'humain de l'animal.
... don't know if it's happening to others, however I seem to be
receiving mail from the 'Is Ident secure' thread of earlier in September
(with the idiot who was subscribed and who wouldn't/couldn't unsubscribe
himself) ... is anyone else seeing this replay?
I have the original in my mailbox if
On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 09:45:49AM +1000, Malcolm Herbert wrote:
... don't know if it's happening to others, however I seem to be
receiving mail from the 'Is Ident secure' thread of earlier in September
(with the idiot who was subscribed and who wouldn't/couldn't unsubscribe
himself) ... is
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 10:57:55PM -0400, Brian P. Flaherty wrote:
It sounds like we have a similar problem. I read all this stuff, If
you don't know what it is, you don't need it. and If you don't need
it, shut it down. One of the things I read said to shut off lpd. I
know there have been
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 10:57:55PM -0400, Brian P. Flaherty wrote:
It sounds like we have a similar problem. I read all this stuff, If
you don't know what it is, you don't need it. and If you don't need
it, shut it down. One of the things I read said to shut off lpd. I
know there have been
On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 02:21:30PM +0200, Sebastian Rittau wrote:
On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 06:41:42AM -0400, Ben Pfaff wrote:
Layne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
OK they just keep coming. I had 8 messages at 11:00PM , all of who I knew.
Now I have 227 in my in box of solicitors all of who I
slightly off topic ... but identd is pretty insecure ...
directly copied from the nmap man page
As noted
by Dave Goldsmith in a 1996 Bugtraq post, the ident
protocol (rfc 1413) allows for the disclosure of
the username that owns
SENT TO THIS GOT IT?? TAKE THE HINT, TAKE A
CLUE
- Original Message -
From: Scott Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Layne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Martin F Krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: Is ident secure?
Hey
SENT TO THIS GOT IT?? TAKE THE HINT, TAKE A
CLUE
- Original Message -
From: Scott Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Layne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Martin F Krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED];
debian-security@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: Is ident secure
Hey, guys, don't forget one place for me!
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Petro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of Petro
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 11:43 AM
To: Ed Street
Cc: Paul Visscher; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Layne (was: Re: Is ident secure?)
On Fri, Aug 31
On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 01:56:16PM +1000, CaT wrote:
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 11:52:07PM -0400, Paul Visscher wrote:
Ed Street [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] said:
Hello,
Already sent mail to the list admin on the bottom of each email.
I just submitted his address in at
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 08:09:23PM -0700, Scott Sawyer wrote:
Hey dude,
the advice was fairly clear and didn't seem to be derogatory that I read.
Just remember we all started out as clueless.
not THAT clueless!
--
Ethan Benson
http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/
PGP signature
On Aug 31, Ethan Benson wrote:
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 08:09:23PM -0700, Scott Sawyer wrote:
Hey dude,
the advice was fairly clear and didn't seem to be derogatory that I read.
Just remember we all started out as clueless.
not THAT clueless!
sarcasm
Oh, I don't know, I spent my
also sprach Layne (on Sat, 01 Sep 2001 12:30:54AM -0400):
I'M JUST JOKING .RIGHT. I GOT 80 SPAM MESSAGES YOSTERDAY AND 80
MORE TODAY I DIDN'T SUBSCRIBE TOWHAT GIVES. THIS IS NUTS.
which are clearly my fault, you impersonation of freudian depression.
do me a favor and leave the list
also sprach Layne (on Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:04:30PM -0400):
MARTIN FONDLES YOUNG BOYS.
which one?
martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
\ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; net@madduck
--
and no one sings me lullabies,
and no one makes me close my eyes,
and so i
Layne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
OK they just keep coming. I had 8 messages at 11:00PM , all of who I knew.
Now I have 227 in my in box of solicitors all of who I didn't subscribe to.
And you wonder why I get mad.
Did it ever occur to you that maybe it's not acceptable to harass
everyone on
On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 06:41:42AM -0400, Ben Pfaff wrote:
Layne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
OK they just keep coming. I had 8 messages at 11:00PM , all of who I knew.
Now I have 227 in my in box of solicitors all of who I didn't subscribe to.
And you wonder why I get mad.
Did it ever
Of course, there's also the possibility that someone else had
subscribed for him at a different e-mail address and forwards all mail
to his address. Maybe the listmaster (cc'ed) should have a look at
which addresses had subscribed at the time he describes.
If someone forwards his mails, it
On Saturday, 2001-09-01 at 11:02:41 +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote:
also sprach Layne (on Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:04:30PM -0400):
MARTIN FONDLES YOUNG BOYS.
which one?
Which Martin or which boy? *-O
Lupe Christoph
--
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |http://free.prohosting.com/~lupe |
| I have
also sprach Lupe Christoph (on Sat, 01 Sep 2001 12:40:44PM +0200):
also sprach Layne (on Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:04:30PM -0400):
MARTIN FONDLES YOUNG BOYS.
which one?
Which Martin or which boy? *-O
boys is plural. so syntactically speaking the one can only refer to
martin. but hey, i agree
On 31 Aug 2001 23:54:40 -0400, Ed Street wrote:
If not is anyone up for a road trip? ;)
Sure :)
* jcm fires off another abuse report...
...or should that be I HAVE FIRED OFF ANOTHER ABUSE REPORT AND NOW I
CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO TURN OFF CAPS LOCK ? :)
--jcm
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To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 11:52:07PM -0400, Paul Visscher wrote:
Ed Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Hello,
Already sent mail to the list admin on the bottom of each email.
I just submitted his address in at
http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/unsubscribe to be unsubscribed,
hopefully that
Paul Visscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ed Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Already sent mail to the list admin on the bottom of each email.
I just submitted his address in at
http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/unsubscribe to be unsubscribed,
hopefully that will work...
I just submitted
ME ONE OF YOUR USELESS GOD DAMN FUCKING E-MAIL MESSAGES AGAIN. GET IT.
FUCK YOU
- Original Message -
From: Theodore Tso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Brian P. Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-security@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: Is ident secure
* Layne [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus:
MARTIN FONDLES YOUNG BOYS. HE WAS CAUGHT ON CAMERA SUCKING AN 8 YR. OLD'S
COCK. WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO BE HIS FRIEND? HE IS A FUCKING HOMO, AN ASS
BANDIT AND PROBABLY SWALLOWS HIS OWM SPERM. i DON'T WANT ANOTHER E-MAIL FROM
YOU TO REACH THIS ADDRESS OR I
Subject: Re: Is ident secure?
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 11:33:06PM -0400, Ed Street wrote:
Hello,
Already sent mail to the list admin on the bottom of each email.
On 2001-08-31, Layne wrote:
SEND ME NO MORE E-MAIL YOU SPERM BURPING GUTTER SLUT. FUCK YOU.
Couldn't list-admins blackhole this moron? Please? :)
I
: Is ident secure?
Toby Speight [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/31/01 12:49PM
0 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
0 Philipp Schulte URL:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philipp) wrote:
Philipp On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 11:44:42AM +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote:
okay, i give you that, but still, i have yet to encounter
Subject: Re: Is ident secure?
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 01:07:05AM -0700, Christian Kurz wrote:
On 01-08-30 Brian P. Flaherty wrote:
I have had a lot of problems running non-Debian software when I
disable ident. It seems like the licensing daemons expect to find
What the hell
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Actually what he really try to tell us is that his shift lock key is stuck...
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20010821
Sean
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Give him one of the keyboards from last week's arc :)
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Sean Whitney wrote:
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Actually what he really try to tell us is that his shift lock key is stuck...
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20010821
Sean
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Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: Is ident secure?
* Layne [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus:
MARTIN FONDLES YOUNG BOYS. HE WAS CAUGHT ON CAMERA SUCKING AN 8 YR.
OLD'S
COCK. WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO BE HIS FRIEND? HE IS A FUCKING HOMO, AN
ASS
On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 12:30:54AM -0400, Layne wrote:
I'M JUST JOKING .RIGHT. I GOT 80 SPAM MESSAGES YOSTERDAY AND 80 MORE
TODAY I DIDN'T SUBSCRIBE TOWHAT GIVES. THIS IS NUTS.
Well, this is an improvement. Maybe your next post will have lowercase
letters too?
Seriously, if
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 11:54:40PM -0400, Ed Street wrote:
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Hello,
If not is anyone up for a road trip? ;)
Usually.
We'll write it off as a Physical Security Seminar.
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Share and Enjoy.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Martin F Krafft
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-security@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: Is ident secure?
I'M JUST JOKING .RIGHT. I GOT 80 SPAM MESSAGES YOSTERDAY AND 80 MORE
TODAY I DIDN'T SUBSCRIBE TOWHAT GIVES. THIS IS NUTS
Hey, guys, don't forget one place for me!
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Petro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
Of Petro
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 11:43 AM
To: Ed Street
Cc: Paul Visscher; debian-security@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Layne (was: Re: Is ident secure
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 09:19:16PM -0700, Sean Whitney wrote:
Actually what he really try to tell us is that his shift lock key is stuck...
In one of his earlier emails, he has a lower case 'i'. He obviously
had capslock on, and by reflex pressed shift anyway. (It was in the
word I'm, where it
On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 01:56:16PM +1000, CaT wrote:
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 11:52:07PM -0400, Paul Visscher wrote:
Ed Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Hello,
Already sent mail to the list admin on the bottom of each email.
I just submitted his address in at
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 08:09:23PM -0700, Scott Sawyer wrote:
Hey dude,
the advice was fairly clear and didn't seem to be derogatory that I read.
Just remember we all started out as clueless.
not THAT clueless!
--
Ethan Benson
http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/
pgpqZxSBpyMWX.pgp
On Aug 31, Ethan Benson wrote:
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 08:09:23PM -0700, Scott Sawyer wrote:
Hey dude,
the advice was fairly clear and didn't seem to be derogatory that I read.
Just remember we all started out as clueless.
not THAT clueless!
sarcasm
Oh, I don't know, I spent my first
also sprach Layne (on Sat, 01 Sep 2001 12:30:54AM -0400):
I'M JUST JOKING .RIGHT. I GOT 80 SPAM MESSAGES YOSTERDAY AND 80
MORE TODAY I DIDN'T SUBSCRIBE TOWHAT GIVES. THIS IS NUTS.
which are clearly my fault, you impersonation of freudian depression.
do me a favor and leave the list
also sprach Layne (on Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:35:12PM -0400):
WEL I GUESS YOU'RE STILL PRETTY FUCKING CLUELESS. I DON'T WANT ANY MORE OF
YOUR USELESS E-MAIL SENT TO THIS GOT IT?? TAKE THE HINT, TAKE A
CLUE
unsubscribe then, of you superior being!
martin; (greetings from
also sprach Layne (on Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:04:30PM -0400):
MARTIN FONDLES YOUNG BOYS.
which one?
martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
\ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
and no one sings me lullabies,
and no one makes me close my eyes,
and so i
Layne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
OK they just keep coming. I had 8 messages at 11:00PM , all of who I knew.
Now I have 227 in my in box of solicitors all of who I didn't subscribe to.
And you wonder why I get mad.
Did it ever occur to you that maybe it's not acceptable to harass
everyone on
On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 06:41:42AM -0400, Ben Pfaff wrote:
Layne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
OK they just keep coming. I had 8 messages at 11:00PM , all of who I knew.
Now I have 227 in my in box of solicitors all of who I didn't subscribe to.
And you wonder why I get mad.
Did it ever
Of course, there's also the possibility that someone else had
subscribed for him at a different e-mail address and forwards all mail
to his address. Maybe the listmaster (cc'ed) should have a look at
which addresses had subscribed at the time he describes.
If someone forwards his mails, it
On Saturday, 2001-09-01 at 11:02:41 +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote:
also sprach Layne (on Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:04:30PM -0400):
MARTIN FONDLES YOUNG BOYS.
which one?
Which Martin or which boy? *-O
Lupe Christoph
--
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |http://free.prohosting.com/~lupe |
| I have
also sprach Lupe Christoph (on Sat, 01 Sep 2001 12:40:44PM +0200):
also sprach Layne (on Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:04:30PM -0400):
MARTIN FONDLES YOUNG BOYS.
which one?
Which Martin or which boy? *-O
boys is plural. so syntactically speaking the one can only refer to
martin. but hey, i agree
On 31 Aug 2001 23:54:40 -0400, Ed Street wrote:
If not is anyone up for a road trip? ;)
Sure :)
* jcm fires off another abuse report...
...or should that be I HAVE FIRED OFF ANOTHER ABUSE REPORT AND NOW I
CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO TURN OFF CAPS LOCK ? :)
--jcm
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 04:45:05AM +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote:
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 11:14:33PM -0300, Alisson Sellaro wrote:
I was checking my firewall logs and have detected lots of TCP/113 dropped
packets. Checking /etc/services I realized it was ident traffic. What do
you think
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 07:52:23PM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote:
You're probably seeing most of those ident requests coming from mail and
irc servers your host connects to. I think best practice is to DENY
(rather than DROP) incoming traffic on 113. This makes it so that auth
requests are
also sprach Ethan Benson (on Fri, 31 Aug 2001 01:38:45AM -0800):
honest question: whose business is the name of a user who initiated a
connection??? identd is a horrible concept and elicits shrieks among
the security conscious. i do understand that you need it for this and
that, so
On 01-08-31 Martin F Krafft wrote:
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 11:14:33PM -0300, Alisson Sellaro wrote:
I was checking my firewall logs and have detected lots of TCP/113 dropped
packets. Checking /etc/services I realized it was ident traffic. What do
you think about such service? Should I let
On 01-08-30 Brian P. Flaherty wrote:
I have had a lot of problems running non-Debian software when I
disable ident. It seems like the licensing daemons expect to find
What the hell is a licensing daemon? And which package contains this
software in debian? May I suggest that you first start
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Martin F Krafft wrote:
this is a severe exaggeration.
most people who bitch about identd don't even understand what its for.
okay, i give you that, but still, i have yet to encounter one sensibly
good use for ident. any shots?
Consider the following situation: You
also sprach Martin Fluch (on Fri, 31 Aug 2001 01:02:58PM +0300):
Consider the following situation: You admin a computer and some user
tries to atack an other computer from this one. Then the admin of
the attacked computer can tell _you_, from which user the attack was
coming, which helps you.
also sprach Christian Kurz (on Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:12:31AM +0200):
honest question: whose business is the name of a user who initiated a
connection???
It can be some sort of help if you have a system with lots of users and
complainments about one. Some admins may be able to send you the
also sprach Christian Kurz (on Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:07:05AM +0200):
I have had a lot of problems running non-Debian software when I
disable ident. It seems like the licensing daemons expect to find
What the hell is a licensing daemon? And which package contains this
software in debian?
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 11:14:33PM -0300, Alisson Sellaro wrote:
I was checking my firewall logs and have detected lots of TCP/113 dropped packets.
Checking /etc/services I realized it was ident traffic. What do you think about such
service? Should I let it blocked or should I allow it
also sprach Colin Phipps (on Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:31:53AM +0100):
Not if configured appropriately. Good identds don't allow reverse ident
scanning anymore.
okay, i must admit i didn't know this...
Agreed, leaking UIDs is serious. Which is why modern identds support returning
crypted uids
On 01-08-31 Martin F Krafft wrote:
also sprach Christian Kurz (on Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:12:31AM +0200):
honest question: whose business is the name of a user who initiated a
connection???
It can be some sort of help if you have a system with lots of users and
complainments about one.
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 10:57:55PM -0400, Brian P. Flaherty wrote:
I have had a lot of problems running non-Debian software when I
disable ident.
Here's a safe version of identd which I tend to run on my systems.
This way annoying programs that kvetch if identd isn't available are
fed
F Krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: Is ident secure?
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- Original Message -
From: Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:12 AM
Subject: Re: Is ident secure?
--
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.
- Original Message -
From: Martin Fluch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Martin F Krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 6:02 AM
Subject: Re: Is ident secure?
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Martin F Krafft wrote:
this is a severe exaggeration.
most people who bitch
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 11:52:07PM -0400, Paul Visscher wrote:
Ed Street [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] said:
Hello,
Already sent mail to the list admin on the bottom of each email.
I just submitted his address in at
http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/unsubscribe to be unsubscribed,
hopefully
Paul Visscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ed Street [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] said:
Already sent mail to the list admin on the bottom of each email.
I just submitted his address in at
http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/unsubscribe to be unsubscribed,
hopefully that will work...
I just submitted
ME ONE OF YOUR USELESS GOD DAMN FUCKING E-MAIL MESSAGES AGAIN. GET IT.
FUCK YOU
- Original Message -
From: Theodore Tso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Brian P. Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: Is ident secure?
On Thu, Aug 30
* Layne [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus:
MARTIN FONDLES YOUNG BOYS. HE WAS CAUGHT ON CAMERA SUCKING AN 8 YR. OLD'S
COCK. WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO BE HIS FRIEND? HE IS A FUCKING HOMO, AN ASS
BANDIT AND PROBABLY SWALLOWS HIS OWM SPERM. i DON'T WANT ANOTHER E-MAIL FROM
YOU TO REACH THIS ADDRESS OR
: Is ident secure?
--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 11:33:06PM -0400, Ed Street wrote:
Hello,
Already sent mail to the list admin on the bottom of each email.
On 2001-08-31, Layne wrote:
SEND ME NO MORE E-MAIL YOU SPERM BURPING GUTTER SLUT. FUCK YOU.
Couldn't list-admins blackhole this moron? Please? :)
I
SEND ME
ANY MORE E-MAIL YOU FUCKING JACKASS MOTHER FUCKING SON OF A BITCH OF A SPERM
BURPING GUTTER SLUT. SWALLOW SATAN'S SPERM AND BOW TO HIS FEET.
- Original Message -
From: James Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: Is ident
: Is ident secure?
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 01:07:05AM -0700, Christian Kurz wrote:
On 01-08-30 Brian P. Flaherty wrote:
I have had a lot of problems running non-Debian software when I
disable ident. It seems like the licensing daemons expect to find
What the hell is a licensing daemon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Actually what he really try to tell us is that his shift lock key is stuck...
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20010821
Sean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org
PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: Is ident secure?
* Layne [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus:
MARTIN FONDLES YOUNG BOYS. HE WAS CAUGHT ON CAMERA SUCKING AN 8 YR.
OLD'S
COCK. WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO BE HIS FRIEND? HE IS A FUCKING HOMO, AN
ASS
BANDIT
On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 12:30:54AM -0400, Layne wrote:
I'M JUST JOKING .RIGHT. I GOT 80 SPAM MESSAGES YOSTERDAY AND 80 MORE
TODAY I DIDN'T SUBSCRIBE TOWHAT GIVES. THIS IS NUTS.
Well, this is an improvement. Maybe your next post will have lowercase
letters too?
Seriously, if
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Martin F Krafft
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: Is ident secure?
I'M JUST JOKING .RIGHT. I GOT 80 SPAM MESSAGES YOSTERDAY AND 80 MORE
TODAY I DIDN'T SUBSCRIBE TOWHAT GIVES. THIS IS NUTS.
- Original
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 04:45:05AM +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote:
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 11:14:33PM -0300, Alisson Sellaro wrote:
I was checking my firewall logs and have detected lots of TCP/113 dropped
packets. Checking /etc/services I realized it was ident traffic. What do
you think
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 07:52:23PM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote:
You're probably seeing most of those ident requests coming from mail and
irc servers your host connects to. I think best practice is to DENY
(rather than DROP) incoming traffic on 113. This makes it so that auth
requests are denied
also sprach Ethan Benson (on Fri, 31 Aug 2001 01:38:45AM -0800):
honest question: whose business is the name of a user who initiated a
connection??? identd is a horrible concept and elicits shrieks among
the security conscious. i do understand that you need it for this and
that, so install
also sprach Ethan Benson (on Fri, 31 Aug 2001 01:45:29AM -0800):
identd is for the admin RUNNING the identd, not for the admin making
identd requests, if one of your users is abusing someones network in
some way (attempting to send spam, causing trouble on some irc network
etc) the admin of
On 01-08-31 Martin F Krafft wrote:
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 11:14:33PM -0300, Alisson Sellaro wrote:
I was checking my firewall logs and have detected lots of TCP/113 dropped
packets. Checking /etc/services I realized it was ident traffic. What do
you think about such service? Should I let
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Martin F Krafft wrote:
this is a severe exaggeration.
most people who bitch about identd don't even understand what its for.
okay, i give you that, but still, i have yet to encounter one sensibly
good use for ident. any shots?
Consider the following situation: You
also sprach Martin Fluch (on Fri, 31 Aug 2001 01:02:58PM +0300):
Consider the following situation: You admin a computer and some user
tries to atack an other computer from this one. Then the admin of
the attacked computer can tell _you_, from which user the attack was
coming, which helps you.
also sprach Christian Kurz (on Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:12:31AM +0200):
honest question: whose business is the name of a user who initiated a
connection???
It can be some sort of help if you have a system with lots of users and
complainments about one. Some admins may be able to send you the
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 11:14:33PM -0300, Alisson Sellaro wrote:
I was checking my firewall logs and have detected lots of TCP/113 dropped
packets. Checking /etc/services I realized it was ident traffic. What do you
think about such service? Should I let it blocked or should I allow it
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 12:11:11PM +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote:
identd is a horrible concept and elicits shrieks among
the security conscious. i do understand that you need it for this and
Would you mind explaining that statement?
it's in my other post. ident is an easy way to
also sprach Colin Phipps (on Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:31:53AM +0100):
Not if configured appropriately. Good identds don't allow reverse ident
scanning anymore.
okay, i must admit i didn't know this...
Agreed, leaking UIDs is serious. Which is why modern identds support returning
crypted uids
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 11:44:42AM +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote:
okay, i give you that, but still, i have yet to encounter one sensibly
good use for ident. any shots?
i already posted it in another message.
why not? in most cases they will know anyway because most services
either must
also sprach Ethan Benson (on Fri, 31 Aug 2001 03:30:54AM -0800):
rubbish, if the admin is incompetent enough to be running these things
as root he will have a cracked box regardless of whether identd is
running or not.
you have a point, even though there is no need to become offensive!
and
On 01-08-31 Martin F Krafft wrote:
also sprach Christian Kurz (on Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:12:31AM +0200):
honest question: whose business is the name of a user who initiated a
connection???
It can be some sort of help if you have a system with lots of users and
complainments about one.
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 01:07:05AM -0700, Christian Kurz wrote:
On 01-08-30 Brian P. Flaherty wrote:
I have had a lot of problems running non-Debian software when I
disable ident. It seems like the licensing daemons expect to find
What the hell is a licensing daemon?
It's a
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Philipp On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 11:44:42AM +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote:
okay, i give you that, but still, i have yet to encounter one
sensibly good use for ident. any shots?
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Philipp On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 11:44:42AM +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote:
okay, i give you that, but still, i have yet to encounter one
sensibly good
also sprach Christian Kurz (on Fri, 31 Aug 2001 04:15:55PM +0200):
process accounting. process accounting.
Would you care to explain that a bit more and especially compare it with
ident protocol (advantages and disadvantages)?
process accounting is simply the kernel keeping track of all
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 10:57:55PM -0400, Brian P. Flaherty wrote:
I have had a lot of problems running non-Debian software when I
disable ident.
Here's a safe version of identd which I tend to run on my systems.
This way annoying programs that kvetch if identd isn't available are
fed
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