Re: schroeder and lebrun EOL - decomission

2015-10-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 10/14/2015 11:20 AM, Josip Rodin wrote: > I didn't claim that, I just said the shipping cost range can be unreasonable. > In fact, I would say even 40-50 EUR is entirely unreasonable for a machine > that > *maybe* costs that much now, and which is so battered that it will probably > cost 0 EUR

Re: schroeder and lebrun EOL - decomission

2015-10-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, 2015-10-14 at 11:25 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > a team at Oracle which is still actively supporting Linux on SPARC That seems surprising, do you have a reference for this? -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: schroeder and lebrun EOL - decomission

2015-10-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 10/14/2015 10:31 AM, Josip Rodin wrote: > Which is entirely irrelevant to this case because schroeder and lebrun are > not in Germany, and someone already posted links to the online documentation > that says so? Yes, but they are in Croatia and shipping 31.5 kg from Croatia to Germany costs

Re: schroeder and lebrun EOL - decomission

2015-10-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 11:25:10AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 10/14/2015 11:20 AM, Josip Rodin wrote: > > I didn't claim that, I just said the shipping cost range can be > > unreasonable. > > In fact, I would say even 40-50 EUR is entirely unreasonable for a machine > > that >

Re: schroeder and lebrun EOL - decomission

2015-10-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 10/14/2015 11:33 AM, Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, 2015-10-14 at 11:25 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > >> a team at Oracle which is still actively supporting Linux on >> SPARC > > That seems surprising, do you have a reference for

Re: schroeder and lebrun EOL - decomission

2015-10-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 10/14/2015 11:56 AM, Josip Rodin wrote: > OTOH perhaps this is a simple indicator why the port has been dying - if it > takes a non-trivial amount of money to get a long-obsolete, over a decade > old machine, it's not going to attract a lot of people. The reactions to my survey regarding the

Re: schroeder and lebrun EOL - decomission

2015-10-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:04:23AM +0900, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > The cost of shipping depends on from where to where you ship them, obviously. > > You can ship up to 31.5 kg within Germany for just 13.99 EUR. As long as you > don't have to ship acres the pond, it shouldn't be too

Re: schroeder and lebrun EOL - decomission

2015-10-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, 2015-10-14 at 11:37 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Sure: https://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2015/10/msg00012.html Wow, great news :) -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: schroeder and lebrun EOL - decomission

2015-10-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 10:35:58AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 10/14/2015 10:31 AM, Josip Rodin wrote: > > Which is entirely irrelevant to this case because schroeder and lebrun are > > not in Germany, and someone already posted links to the online documentation > > that says so?

Re: schroeder and lebrun EOL - decomission

2015-10-12 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Wow, I am overwhelmed by all these offers. You people are amazing! > On Oct 12, 2015, at 7:30 AM, david h. wrote: > > Hello, > I have 2 t2000 servers with 8 cores and 32 gigabytes of ram, each. > I have to change some ram because at the moment they utilize only 16, but >

Re: schroeder and lebrun EOL - decomission

2015-10-12 Thread Frans van Berckel
On Mon, 2015-10-12 at 14:58 +0300, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Wow, I am overwhelmed by all these offers. You people are amazing! Anyone living in Gilbert, Arizona, United States? And do you have some rack space left? Found a ebay ad, only US $29.99. But be ware, no HDDs.

Re: schroeder and lebrun EOL - decomission

2015-10-11 Thread Harka Gyozo SA
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 08:57:17 +0200, Josip Rodin wrote > On Sun, Oct 04, 2015 at 09:43:04AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: > > John Paul Adrian Glaubitz schrieb am Sonntag, dem 04. Oktober 2015: > > > > > Where are those machines hosted at the moment and would it be possible > > > to keep them at

Re: schroeder and lebrun EOL - decomission

2015-10-11 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Sounds awesome! I would love to setup a buildd for sparc (32 bit) on this machine for Debian Ports. I'm a DD and I will send you my SSH public key later. Currently at the airport and on mobile only. Cheers, Adrian > On Oct 12, 2015, at 9:53 AM, Harka Gyozo SA wrote: > >

Re: schroeder and lebrun EOL - decomission

2015-10-11 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
The cost of shipping depends on from where to where you ship them, obviously. You can ship up to 31.5 kg within Germany for just 13.99 EUR. As long as you don't have to ship acres the pond, it shouldn't be too expensive. > On Oct 10, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Josip Rodin wrote: >

Re: schroeder and lebrun EOL - decomission

2015-10-11 Thread david h.
Hello, I have 2 t2000 servers with 8 cores and 32 gigabytes of ram, each. I have to change some ram because at the moment they utilize only 16, but then I will search for cheap rack space to put them in, and could set them up as build servers. If there is need for that. Greetings David Am

Re: schroeder and lebrun EOL - decomission

2015-10-10 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Oct 04, 2015 at 09:43:04AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: > John Paul Adrian Glaubitz schrieb am Sonntag, dem 04. Oktober 2015: > > > Where are those machines hosted at the moment and would it be possible > > to keep them at their current place but hand the administration to the > > people

Re: schroeder and lebrun EOL - decomission

2015-10-04 Thread Peter Palfrader
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz schrieb am Sonntag, dem 04. Oktober 2015: > Where are those machines hosted at the moment and would it be possible > to keep them at their current place but hand the administration to the > people working on the sparc/sparc64 ports? > > I would love to set them up as

Re: schroeder and lebrun EOL - decomission

2015-10-04 Thread Frans van Berckel
On Sun, 2015-10-04 at 11:25 +0900, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On Oct 2, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 2015-09-26 at 23:18 +0200, Hector Oron wrote: > > > > > > DSA would like to decomission lebrun and schroeder (old sparc > > > build > > >

Re: schroeder and lebrun EOL - decomission

2015-10-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, 2015-09-26 at 23:18 +0200, Hector Oron wrote: > DSA would like to decomission lebrun and schroeder (old sparc build > daemons). Please if you think this is a bad idea for some reason, let > me know, otherwise those will be decomissioned in the following > weeks. If there are people

Re: schroeder and lebrun EOL - decomission

2015-10-02 Thread Frans van Berckel
On Fri, 2015-10-02 at 12:56 +0200, Paul Wise wrote: > On Sat, 2015-09-26 at 23:18 +0200, Hector Oron wrote: > > > DSA would like to decomission lebrun and schroeder (old sparc build > > daemons). Please if you think this is a bad idea for some reason, > > let > > me know, otherwise those will be

Re: schroeder and lebrun EOL - decomission

2015-10-02 Thread rod
I wouldn't be opposed to putting them back into service. I have space for them (in Missouri if that matters). Rod On 10/2/2015 6:11 AM, Frans van Berckel wrote: > On Fri, 2015-10-02 at 12:56 +0200, Paul Wise wrote: >> On Sat, 2015-09-26 at 23:18 +0200, Hector Oron wrote: >> >>> DSA would like