Re: Install debian sparc64 with a hdd/ssd as source

2022-07-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz

On 7/14/22 23:28, Connor McLaughlan wrote:

Alright, Ctrl-a a n works...thanks!

I also might have figured out my installation problem...my netinstall
cd is to old and doesn't have the required 2022 debian signing keys
for the repositories.
While network access works, it seems to refuse to connect/install from
the debian mirror.

Can i somehow add the needed keys in a running installer environment?
(apt-key or gpg commands seem to be not available in the installer?)

(The reason i am using older installation images are machines that
have problems with newer kernels...)


Just skip the step to install additional software and do that once you
have rebooted into the installed system.

Adrian

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Re: Install debian sparc64 with a hdd/ssd as source

2022-07-14 Thread Connor McLaughlan
Alright, Ctrl-a a n works...thanks!

I also might have figured out my installation problem...my netinstall
cd is to old and doesn't have the required 2022 debian signing keys
for the repositories.
While network access works, it seems to refuse to connect/install from
the debian mirror.

Can i somehow add the needed keys in a running installer environment?
(apt-key or gpg commands seem to be not available in the installer?)

(The reason i am using older installation images are machines that
have problems with newer kernels...)

Regards,
Connor

On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 10:19 PM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
 wrote:
>
> On 7/14/22 21:57, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> >> Don’t use “screen” as a terminal program, use “minicom”. Your local
> >> screen session intercepts the escape sequences in the running
> >> debian-installer’s screen session.
> >
> > It's ok to use screen. Since ^A is escaped by the upper screen instance,
> > the key sequence becomes
> >
> > Ctrl-a  a  n
>
> Good to know, thanks!
>
> Adrian
>
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Re: Install debian sparc64 with a hdd/ssd as source

2022-07-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz

On 7/14/22 21:57, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

Don’t use “screen” as a terminal program, use “minicom”. Your local
screen session intercepts the escape sequences in the running
debian-installer’s screen session.


It's ok to use screen. Since ^A is escaped by the upper screen instance,
the key sequence becomes

Ctrl-a  a  n


Good to know, thanks!

Adrian

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Re: Install debian sparc64 with a hdd/ssd as source

2022-07-14 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Thursday 2022-07-14 21:37, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>
>> On Jul 14, 2022, at 9:03 PM, Connor McLaughlan  wrote:
>> 
>> ctrl+a  or  do not work. I get a message of "no other window".
>> 
>> I am using screen like this. to connect: screen /dev/ttyUSB0 9600,cs8
>
>Don’t use “screen” as a terminal program, use “minicom”. Your local screen 
>session intercepts the escape sequences in the running debian-installer’s 
>screen session.

It's ok to use screen. Since ^A is escaped by the upper screen instance, 
the key sequence becomes

Ctrl-a  a  n



Re: Install debian sparc64 with a hdd/ssd as source

2022-07-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz



> On Jul 14, 2022, at 9:03 PM, Connor McLaughlan  wrote:
> 
> ctrl+a  or  do not work. I get a message of "no other window".
> 
> I am using screen like this. to connect: screen /dev/ttyUSB0 9600,cs8

Don’t use “screen” as a terminal program, use “minicom”. Your local screen 
session intercepts the escape sequences in the running debian-installer’s 
screen session.

This won’t work, of course.

Adrian


Re: Install debian sparc64 with a hdd/ssd as source

2022-07-14 Thread Connor McLaughlan
Hello Adrian,

ctrl+a  or  do not work. I get a message of "no other window".

I am using screen like this. to connect: screen /dev/ttyUSB0 9600,cs8

Regards,
Connor

On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 8:26 PM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
 wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 14, 2022, at 8:07 PM, Connor McLaughlan  wrote:
> >
> > do you or someone reading this know how to change tabs in the
> > installer on sparc64 in order to get to the logfile?
>
> Ctrl+a  and  should work.
>
> See the manpage of GNU screen.
>
> Adrian



Re: Install debian sparc64 with a hdd/ssd as source

2022-07-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz



> On Jul 14, 2022, at 8:07 PM, Connor McLaughlan  wrote:
> 
> do you or someone reading this know how to change tabs in the
> installer on sparc64 in order to get to the logfile?

Ctrl+a  and  should work.

See the manpage of GNU screen.

Adrian



Re: Install debian sparc64 with a hdd/ssd as source

2022-07-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz



> On Jul 12, 2022, at 4:16 PM, Connor McLaughlan  wrote:
> 
> How can i find the cause of it and manually correct it and install
> grub from the rescue system?
> (also does anyone know the key combination to switch console tabs in
> the installer when the serial connection runs over the screen
> utility?)

By checking the installation log in /var/log/syslog during installation or at 
/var/log/installer/syslog after installation.

Anything else is just trying to use the non-existing crystal ball ;-).

Adrian


Re: Install debian sparc64 with a hdd/ssd as source

2022-07-14 Thread Connor McLaughlan
Hello Jon,

do you or someone reading this know how to change tabs in the
installer on sparc64 in order to get to the logfile?

I am using a serial connection over screen to the machine, but sending
ctrl+a + 1-4 will not change the tabs?

Regards,
Connor

On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 6:46 PM Stan Johnson  wrote:
>
> On 7/12/22 8:15 AM, Connor McLaughlan wrote:
> > Hello again,
> >
> > i had mixed results for now with the installation on a T1000 using the
> > dd'ed netinstall iso.
> >
> > All went seemingly well until suddenly some files on the debian
> > mirrors could not be found and i had to ignore it and went with a base
> > system.
> > The message was "Downloading a file failed" during the step "Configure
> > the package manager".
>
> I'm not sure how to fix that. As I recall, the default location for the
> mirrors worked the last time I installed Debian SID.
>
> I'm using this now for my /etc/apt/sources.list:
>
> # binary default
> deb http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports/ unstable main
> deb http://incoming.ports.debian.org/buildd/ unstable main
> deb http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports/ unreleased main
>
> # contrib and non-free arch:all packages (i.e. firmware)
> deb [arch=all] http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable contrib non-free
>
> # source
> deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
> deb-src http://incoming.debian.org/debian-buildd/ buildd-unstable main
>
> >
> > Then at the end it could not install grub to the target hdd. Message
> > was "The 'grub-ieee1275' package failed to install into /target/.
> >
> > How can i find the cause of it and manually correct it and install
> > grub from the rescue system?
>
> I use SILO, so I'm not able to help. I did test a default installation a
> few months ago that included GRUB, and that worked on my Ultra-30.
>
> Adrian usually asks which installation CD you are using and for a copy
> of the installation log.
>
> > (also does anyone know the key combination to switch console tabs in
> > the installer when the serial connection runs over the screen
> > utility?)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Connor
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 5:43 PM Connor McLaughlan  
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Sorry..obvious error in my last post, resulting from a cut-paste-mix
> >> of a grub2 iso-boot tutorial...
> >> "casper" should be "install"...or wherever the kernel and initrd
> >> reside in the iso.
> >>
> >> linux (loop)/install/vmlinux iso-scan/filename=${isofile} quiet splash
> >> initrd (loop)/install/casper/initrd.gz
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Connor
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 4:42 PM Connor McLaughlan  
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thank you Stan, this looks promising and easy enough.
> >>>
> >>> Another method i found working, but not as convenient as the above, is
> >>> to install grub2 on another system with a working cdrom and then to
> >>> add an iso residing on an existing partition as menuenty in grub.
> >>> The only difference compared to x86/64 are the needed modules and the
> >>> adressing of the drive, like:
> >>>
> >>> menuentry "Debian ISO" {
> >>> set isofile="/path/to/file/name-of-iso-file-.iso"
> >>> insmod gzio
> >>> insmod part_sun
> >>> insmod 
> >>>
> >>> loopback loop (ieee1275/disk, sun1)$isofile
> >>> echo "Starting $isofile..."
> >>> linux (loop)/casper/vmlinux iso-scan/filename=${isofile} quiet splash
> >>> initrd (loop)/casper/initrd.gz
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Connor
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 11:46 PM Stan Johnson  wrote:
> 
>  On 7/5/22 9:15 AM, Connor McLaughlan wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > is there a sparc64 debian installer image available somewhere that i
> > could write with dd to a hdd/ssd and boot from it?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Connor
> >
> 
>  Hi Connor,
> 
>  As I recall, the last time I tried to install Debian SID from the Debian
>  installer CD, it did not recognize my CD drive (despite having just
>  booted the CD from that drive). So I copied the entire installation CD
>  to a spare 1 GB disk (something like "dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/dev/sdb
>  bs=64k"). I was then able to boot from that disk and proceeded to a full
>  installation. My existing installation was Debian 7.8, which was able to
>  recognize the CD drive.
> 
>  -Stan
> >



Re: Install debian sparc64 with a hdd/ssd as source

2022-07-12 Thread Connor McLaughlan
Hello again,

i had mixed results for now with the installation on a T1000 using the
dd'ed netinstall iso.

All went seemingly well until suddenly some files on the debian
mirrors could not be found and i had to ignore it and went with a base
system.
The message was "Downloading a file failed" during the step "Configure
the package manager".

Then at the end it could not install grub to the target hdd. Message
was "The 'grub-ieee1275' package failed to install into /target/.

How can i find the cause of it and manually correct it and install
grub from the rescue system?
(also does anyone know the key combination to switch console tabs in
the installer when the serial connection runs over the screen
utility?)

Regards,
Connor

On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 5:43 PM Connor McLaughlan  wrote:
>
> Sorry..obvious error in my last post, resulting from a cut-paste-mix
> of a grub2 iso-boot tutorial...
> "casper" should be "install"...or wherever the kernel and initrd
> reside in the iso.
>
> linux (loop)/install/vmlinux iso-scan/filename=${isofile} quiet splash
> initrd (loop)/install/casper/initrd.gz
>
> Regards,
> Connor
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 4:42 PM Connor McLaughlan  wrote:
> >
> > Thank you Stan, this looks promising and easy enough.
> >
> > Another method i found working, but not as convenient as the above, is
> > to install grub2 on another system with a working cdrom and then to
> > add an iso residing on an existing partition as menuenty in grub.
> > The only difference compared to x86/64 are the needed modules and the
> > adressing of the drive, like:
> >
> > menuentry "Debian ISO" {
> > set isofile="/path/to/file/name-of-iso-file-.iso"
> > insmod gzio
> > insmod part_sun
> > insmod 
> >
> > loopback loop (ieee1275/disk, sun1)$isofile
> > echo "Starting $isofile..."
> > linux (loop)/casper/vmlinux iso-scan/filename=${isofile} quiet splash
> > initrd (loop)/casper/initrd.gz
> > }
> >
> > Regards,
> > Connor
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 11:46 PM Stan Johnson  wrote:
> > >
> > > On 7/5/22 9:15 AM, Connor McLaughlan wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > is there a sparc64 debian installer image available somewhere that i
> > > > could write with dd to a hdd/ssd and boot from it?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Connor
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hi Connor,
> > >
> > > As I recall, the last time I tried to install Debian SID from the Debian
> > > installer CD, it did not recognize my CD drive (despite having just
> > > booted the CD from that drive). So I copied the entire installation CD
> > > to a spare 1 GB disk (something like "dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/dev/sdb
> > > bs=64k"). I was then able to boot from that disk and proceeded to a full
> > > installation. My existing installation was Debian 7.8, which was able to
> > > recognize the CD drive.
> > >
> > > -Stan



Re: Install debian sparc64 with a hdd/ssd as source

2022-07-06 Thread Connor McLaughlan
Sorry..obvious error in my last post, resulting from a cut-paste-mix
of a grub2 iso-boot tutorial...
"casper" should be "install"...or wherever the kernel and initrd
reside in the iso.

linux (loop)/install/vmlinux iso-scan/filename=${isofile} quiet splash
initrd (loop)/install/casper/initrd.gz

Regards,
Connor

On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 4:42 PM Connor McLaughlan  wrote:
>
> Thank you Stan, this looks promising and easy enough.
>
> Another method i found working, but not as convenient as the above, is
> to install grub2 on another system with a working cdrom and then to
> add an iso residing on an existing partition as menuenty in grub.
> The only difference compared to x86/64 are the needed modules and the
> adressing of the drive, like:
>
> menuentry "Debian ISO" {
> set isofile="/path/to/file/name-of-iso-file-.iso"
> insmod gzio
> insmod part_sun
> insmod 
>
> loopback loop (ieee1275/disk, sun1)$isofile
> echo "Starting $isofile..."
> linux (loop)/casper/vmlinux iso-scan/filename=${isofile} quiet splash
> initrd (loop)/casper/initrd.gz
> }
>
> Regards,
> Connor
>
> On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 11:46 PM Stan Johnson  wrote:
> >
> > On 7/5/22 9:15 AM, Connor McLaughlan wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > is there a sparc64 debian installer image available somewhere that i
> > > could write with dd to a hdd/ssd and boot from it?
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Connor
> > >
> >
> > Hi Connor,
> >
> > As I recall, the last time I tried to install Debian SID from the Debian
> > installer CD, it did not recognize my CD drive (despite having just
> > booted the CD from that drive). So I copied the entire installation CD
> > to a spare 1 GB disk (something like "dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/dev/sdb
> > bs=64k"). I was then able to boot from that disk and proceeded to a full
> > installation. My existing installation was Debian 7.8, which was able to
> > recognize the CD drive.
> >
> > -Stan



Re: Install debian sparc64 with a hdd/ssd as source

2022-07-06 Thread Connor McLaughlan
Thank you Stan, this looks promising and easy enough.

Another method i found working, but not as convenient as the above, is
to install grub2 on another system with a working cdrom and then to
add an iso residing on an existing partition as menuenty in grub.
The only difference compared to x86/64 are the needed modules and the
adressing of the drive, like:

menuentry "Debian ISO" {
set isofile="/path/to/file/name-of-iso-file-.iso"
insmod gzio
insmod part_sun
insmod 

loopback loop (ieee1275/disk, sun1)$isofile
echo "Starting $isofile..."
linux (loop)/casper/vmlinux iso-scan/filename=${isofile} quiet splash
initrd (loop)/casper/initrd.gz
}

Regards,
Connor

On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 11:46 PM Stan Johnson  wrote:
>
> On 7/5/22 9:15 AM, Connor McLaughlan wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > is there a sparc64 debian installer image available somewhere that i
> > could write with dd to a hdd/ssd and boot from it?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Connor
> >
>
> Hi Connor,
>
> As I recall, the last time I tried to install Debian SID from the Debian
> installer CD, it did not recognize my CD drive (despite having just
> booted the CD from that drive). So I copied the entire installation CD
> to a spare 1 GB disk (something like "dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/dev/sdb
> bs=64k"). I was then able to boot from that disk and proceeded to a full
> installation. My existing installation was Debian 7.8, which was able to
> recognize the CD drive.
>
> -Stan



Re: Install debian sparc64 with a hdd/ssd as source

2022-07-05 Thread Stan Johnson
On 7/5/22 9:15 AM, Connor McLaughlan wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> is there a sparc64 debian installer image available somewhere that i
> could write with dd to a hdd/ssd and boot from it?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Connor
> 

Hi Connor,

As I recall, the last time I tried to install Debian SID from the Debian
installer CD, it did not recognize my CD drive (despite having just
booted the CD from that drive). So I copied the entire installation CD
to a spare 1 GB disk (something like "dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/dev/sdb
bs=64k"). I was then able to boot from that disk and proceeded to a full
installation. My existing installation was Debian 7.8, which was able to
recognize the CD drive.

-Stan



Install debian sparc64 with a hdd/ssd as source

2022-07-05 Thread Connor McLaughlan
Hello,

is there a sparc64 debian installer image available somewhere that i
could write with dd to a hdd/ssd and boot from it?


Regards,
Connor