Re: debian12 on Ultra10

[sacarde]

hi,
   I have this card: 
VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] 3D Rage Pro 
PCI (rev 5c)

and installed package:
xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:22.0.0-1 

and Kernel driver in use: atyfb



thanks


saca...@libero.it

>>On Friday 01 November 2024 14:41:03 Gregor Riepl wrote:
> > in debian9 Xorg works OK
> > but in debian12, when I start X, I view desktop(fluxbox) but system
> > freeze, I have to poweroff
> >
> > what do you suggest I try?
>
> Are you using the built-in ATi Rage128 or a Creator3D card?
>
> I'm not familiar with recent Debian installations on the Ultra10 due to
> kernel stability issues and lack of time, so I don't know about the
> Rage128. The kernel config mentions that this driver is unsupported and
> "dangerous", so that may be one reason.
>
> If you're using a Creator3D, I'm surprised that you got it working at all.
> I had limited success with a revived sunffb driver (it was removed from
> Xorg some years ago, although I think someone has recommenced work on it
> recently), but while it displayed something and didn't freeze the system,
> interaction with the Xorg desktop wasn't possible.

Re: debian12 on Ultra10

[Gregor Riepl]

in debian9 Xorg works OK
but in debian12, when I start X, I view desktop(fluxbox) but system freeze, I
have to poweroff

what do you suggest I try?


Are you using the built-in ATi Rage128 or a Creator3D card?

I'm not familiar with recent Debian installations on the Ultra10 due to kernel stability 
issues and lack of time, so I don't know about the Rage128. The kernel config mentions 
that this driver is unsupported and "dangerous", so that may be one reason.

If you're using a Creator3D, I'm surprised that you got it working at all. I 
had limited success with a revived sunffb driver (it was removed from Xorg some 
years ago, although I think someone has recommenced work on it recently), but 
while it displayed something and didn't freeze the system, interaction with the 
Xorg desktop wasn't possible.

Re: debian12 on Ultra10

[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

On Sun, 2024-09-22 at 16:03 +0200, saca...@libero.it wrote:
> thanks,
>    I think is a problem booting debian12 from silo.conf into debian9,
> I retrieve into system kernel-4.18.0-1-sparc64 and initrd.img-6.10.7-sparc64

You cannot combine a 4.18.0 kernel with a 6.10.7 initrd, the version numbers
must always match here.

Adrian

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Re: debian12 on Ultra10

[Gregor Riepl]

I have a SUN Ultra10, a few years ago I installed debian9 on a disk.
now I tried to install debian12 (with grub) on another disk but it doesn't
boot.
  I tried to boot deb12 from deb9 with silo, but it start kernel of debian9
with the " /" of 12

what do you suggest I try?


Adrian has suggested to use kernel 4.19 until the issues with newer kernels can 
be sorted out.
Search the list archive for the thread "Linux kernel stability fixes for older 
SPARCs​", he also gave a suggestion on how to install older kernels from the Debian 
archive.