Freebsd

1999-03-09 Thread ARG-NIGRO, GABRIEL
Conocen de donde sacar informacion y aplicaciones.
Saludos.


Mensaje Segmentation fault al arrancar WordPerfect

1999-03-09 Thread Antonio Angel Sanz Arróspide
Hola a todos:

He bajado el sofware de WordPerfect y lo he instalado en el equipo.
Al principio me daba errores al intentar cargar librerías, porque las
buscaba en un lugar diferente de donde las instala Debian. Lo solucioné
creando enlaces simbólicos con ln -s. Pero cuando ya he solucionado el
problema, ahora no arranca porque me contesta con Segmentation fault.

Envío también la información que me da el comando strace cuando
intento arrancar el programa.

¿ Alguien me podría dar alguna pista de lo que está ocurriendo ?

Gracias
272   read(0, \33, 1) = 1
272   read(0, [, 1)   = 1
272   read(0, A, 1)   = 1
272   write(2, strace -p272 -f -ostracesegmenta..., 37) = 37
272   sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [])  = 0
272   read(0, \33, 1) = 1
272   read(0, [, 1)   = 1
272   read(0, A, 1)   = 1
272   write(2, \rdebian:/WordPerfect/wpbin# ./x..., 36) = 36
272   sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [])  = 0
272   read(0, \r, 1)  = 1
272   write(2, \n, 1) = 1
272   sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [INT], []) = 0
272   ioctl(0, SNDCTL_TMR_STOP, {B9600 opost isig icanon echo ...}) = 0
272   sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL) = 0
272   sigaction(SIGINT, {0x8082ca0, [], 0}, {0x400296b0, [], 0}) = 0
272   sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x8082c10, [HUP INT ILL TRAP ABRT BUS FPE USR1 SEGV 
USR2 PIPE ALRM TERM XCPU XFSZ VTALRM PROF], 0}, {0x400296b0, [], 0}) = 0
272   sigaction(SIGWINCH, {0x80738d0, [], 0}, {0x40029810, [], 0}) = 0
272   sigaction(SIGINT, {0x8082ca0, [], 0}, {0x8082ca0, [], 0}) = 0
272   sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [INT CHLD], []) = 0
272   fork()= 296
272   setpgid(296, 296 unfinished ...
296   getpid( unfinished ...
272   ... setpgid resumed )   = 0
296   ... getpid resumed )= 296
272   sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [],  unfinished ...
296   sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [],  unfinished ...
272   ... sigprocmask resumed NULL)   = 0
296   ... sigprocmask resumed NULL)   = 0
272   sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD],  unfinished ...
296   sigaction(SIGTSTP, {SIG_DFL},  unfinished ...
272   ... sigprocmask resumed []) = 0
296   ... sigaction resumed {SIG_IGN}) = 0
272   sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD],  unfinished ...
296   sigaction(SIGTTIN, {SIG_DFL},  unfinished ...
272   ... sigprocmask resumed [CHLD]) = 0
296   ... sigaction resumed {SIG_IGN}) = 0
272   sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [CHLD],  unfinished ...
296   sigaction(SIGTTOU, {SIG_DFL},  unfinished ...
272   ... sigprocmask resumed NULL)   = 0
296   ... sigaction resumed {SIG_IGN}) = 0
272   sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD TSTP TTIN TTOU],  unfinished ...
296   setpgid(296, 296 unfinished ...
272   ... sigprocmask resumed [CHLD]) = 0
296   ... setpgid resumed )   = 0
272   ioctl(255, TIOCSPGRP unfinished ...
296   sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD TSTP TTIN TTOU],  unfinished ...
272   ... ioctl resumed , [296])  = 0
296   ... sigprocmask resumed []) = 0
272   sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [CHLD],  unfinished ...
296   ioctl(255, TIOCSPGRP unfinished ...
272   ... sigprocmask resumed NULL)   = 0
296   ... ioctl resumed , [296])  = 0
272   sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [],  unfinished ...
296   sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [],  unfinished ...
272   ... sigprocmask resumed NULL)   = 0
296   ... sigprocmask resumed NULL)   = 0
272   sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD],  unfinished ...
296   sigaction(SIGINT, {SIG_DFL},  unfinished ...
272   ... sigprocmask resumed []) = 0
296   ... sigaction resumed {0x8082ca0, [], 0}) = 0
272   wait4(-1,  unfinished ...
296   sigaction(SIGQUIT, {SIG_DFL}, {SIG_IGN}) = 0
296   sigaction(SIGTERM, {SIG_DFL}, {SIG_IGN}) = 0
296   sigaction(SIGCHLD, {SIG_DFL}, {0x80727f0, [], 0}) = 0
296   execve(./xwp, [./xwp], [/* 19 vars */]) = 0
296   mmap(0, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 
0x40007000
296   mprotect(0x4000, 21025, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
296   mprotect(0x8048000, 7298408, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
296   stat(/etc/ld.so.cache, {st_mode=0, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
296   open(/etc/ld.so.cache, O_RDONLY) = 3
296   mmap(0, 5755, PROT_READ, MAP_SHARED, 3, 0) = 0x40008000
296   close(3)  = 0
296   stat(/etc/ld.so.preload, 0xbd2c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
296   open(/usr/lib/libXt.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
296   read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096
296   mmap(0, 294912, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4000a000
296   mmap(0x4000a000, 275612, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 
0) = 0x4000a000
296   mmap(0x4004e000, 12820, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 
0x43000) = 0x4004e000
296   close(3)  = 0
296   mprotect(0x4000a000, 275612, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
296   open(/usr/lib/libX11.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
296   read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096
296   mmap(0, 671744, PROT_NONE, 

Re: Instalar .deb con dselect de fuera del CD de distribucion

1999-03-09 Thread ~ Miguel P.C. ~
At 16.40 6/3/99 +0100, you wrote:
Hola

Hasta ahora, he usado dselect para instalar paquetes que vienen con
la distribucion hamm.

¿Como lo hago para instalar paquetes que
vienen con CDs de revistas?

Por ejemplo: en el CD2 de LA6 viene el Gnome en el directorio
/cdrom/gnome/pub/GNOME/debian/dists/released
donde ademas de los .deb hay tambien un fichero Packages.

Primero, no utilices esa versión de GNOME porque al menos uno de los
ficheros está corrupto y no istala, creo que el libgif.

Segundo, si el directorio contiene un Packages.gz, entonces puedes instalar
con dselect diciendole que el directorio base es el de los paquetes que
quieres instalar.

Tercero, aunque puedas usar dselect para estos menesteres, te recomiendo
emplear el apt-get.

Las opciones de dselect en Access llamadas mounted y harddisk tienen
pinta de ser para esto, pero hablan de que los .deb deben estar en
binary/*/*.deb, y no veo esa estructura por ninguna parte en el CD2
de LA6 para Gnome.

Tambien por si linux not e reconoce bien el CD-ROM y tienes una partición
dos/vfat, o si quieres instalar por NFS (gozoso!!!).

Ademas, si despues quiero volver a instalar algo desde el CD de la
distribucion tengo que volver a seleccionar cdrom en Access de
dselect, ¿no?

si, o montarlo 'a mano' y utilizar el sistema mounted.

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Re: COMPARATIVA UNIX-NT

1999-03-09 Thread Lluís
Lo siento pues me descuide de hacer el attchment del arxivo, ahora no
puedo pero mas tarde lo enviare





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 Hola como he visto que hablais del uso de linux, en la pàgina personal
 de uno de mis profesores de la udl, he encontrado este documento que
 creo es muy interesante sobre una comparativa entre unix y w'nt.
 
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Debian 2.1

1999-03-09 Thread Manuel Trujillo
Buenas.

A modo de nota informativa, a pesar de que ya se comentó, deciros que ya
disponemos de Debian 2.1!!

Have a nice day  ;-)
TooManySecrets


HP DeskJet 697C

1999-03-09 Thread Area Tecnica, Externo17
Hola a todos:

Voy a comprame una HP Deskjet 697C. ¿Sabe alguien de
incompatibilidades con Linux? 

Sería muy desagradable tener que devolverla porque no me anda.


Saludos y gracias.
Pablo Villanueva


Apache 1.3.4+SSL en debian?

1999-03-09 Thread Gonzalo G. Agullo
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Hola,

saludos a todos, hacia bastante tiempo que no me asomaba por aqui...

me he encontrado con el dilema de que necesito meter el apache 1.3.4 con
ssl 1.31 en varios servidores debian, y al que a su vez tendre que an~adir
bastantes modulos (xml, php, ...), pero no esta ni en stable ni en slink
ni potato el deb correspondiente.

si cojo las fuentes puedo generar sin problemas el paquete sin ssl, pero
siempre hay algun paso en el parcheo apache.orig + parche ssl + parche
debian que falla.

preferiria,ya que los servidores no voy a mantenerlos yo, que quedase todo
en paquetes debian bien empaquetaditos, sin meter yo mis fuentes
parcheadas a la antigua usanza, y si son estables mejor, que no es plan de
meter bombas de relojeria (inestables) en servidores en produccion.

alguien ha podido generar los paquetes actualizados por casualidad?
y de paso si alguien ha empezado ya a trabajar con xml me gustaria
contactar.

saludos


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Re: Debian 2.1

1999-03-09 Thread Jesus M. Gonzalez

No recuerdo si ya lo había dicho, pero por si acaso. Hay un
artículo sobre Debian 2.1 en Open Resources:

http://www.openresources.com/magazine/debian-21/ (inglés)
http://www.openresources.com/es/magazine/debian-21/ (castellano)

Jesus.

Manuel Trujillo writes:
  Buenas.
  
  A modo de nota informativa, a pesar de que ya se comentó, deciros que ya
  disponemos de Debian 2.1!!
  
  Have a nice day  ;-)
  TooManySecrets
  
  
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/usr/lib/mailhosts

1999-03-09 Thread José Illescas Pérez
Hola,

¿alguien me puede decir el formato del fichero /usr/lib/mailhosts de
sendmail?

Salute.
 
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Sintonizadora TV BestBuy

1999-03-09 Thread Area Tecnica, Externo17
Hola:

_ _ _ _ _Recorte de publicidad del Web de Best Buy _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

El Kit Easy TV reproduce TV (y teletexto) a pantalla completa, con
una capacidad de programación de hasta 181 canales y 16 canales en modo
previsualización. Soportando además la entrada de un magnetoscopio, con el
que grabar y reproducir cintas de video en el monitor del PC, a partir de
una ventana redimensionable desde un pequeño icono hasta pantalla completa.
Gracias a su poderoso Chipset BT-878 (última evolución del anterior BT-848.)
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 

Pregunta facilita:  ¿Tenemos software adecuado para Linux?


Saludos y gracias por las respuestas.
Pablo Villanueva.


LI 010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101...

1999-03-09 Thread M. Angel Esteban
Hola!

llevo varios días intentando instalar Debian 2.0 en mi máquina, pero al
instalar LILO aparece el mensaje del topic hasta el infinito (vaya, u
nscroll del cpon llenito de 0 y 1).

Si ejecuto fdisk /MBR me quedo sin LILO :-( Qué puedo hacer (aparte de
arrancar con disquette)?

Los discos que tengo ahora son estos:

/dev/hda1 6.5Gb FAT32 con el windoze 98
/dev/hdb  CDRom ASUS 40x
/dev/hdc  Grabadora Sony CRX100E
/dev/hdd1 Partición 50 Mb con MSDOS6
/dev/hdd... espacio disponible a particionar.

Un saludo y gracias.


Re: RV: LiNUX en la calle ???

1999-03-09 Thread jr-gil


juanma escribió:

 Estimados amigos de Debian:

 Yo os voy a comentar mi punto de vista personal en cuanto a Linux.
 Mi profesión no se acerca (ni con mucho) a la informática y simplemente me
 quedo en un usuario más de windows. Más bien lo padezco aunque poco a poco y
 con la ayuda de otras personas voy emigrando (en concreto a la distribución
 Debian).

 Lo que veo en despachos profesionales son como mucho un ordenador en cada
 habitáculo y para imprimir cualquier archivo o bien se hace en el mismo
 habitáculo o se le lleva un diskette a la secretaria para que lo imprima en
 la laser.

 Existen multitud de despachos formados por dos profesionales y la secretaria
 a los que les instalan una redecilla con win95 o win 3.11 creando la
 ilusión de que trabajan en equipo. ¿que comentar de cuelgues y demás
 esquisiteces? porque un simple bloqueo hace perder más de media hora entre
 que qué me ha pasado y chicos, voy a apagar la red. Además como esa
 media hora se acerque a la hora del café, la mañana perdida.

 Con respecto a Linux, veo un grán futuro a pesar de que se diga que es un
 sistema operativo difícil.

 Los usuarios normales no se defienden ni con windows. En los despachos hasta
 les tienen que instalar el windows porque son incapaces, además les instalan
 las herramoenatas que precisan. Lo justo saben escribir en un programa de
 tratamiento de textos y lo imprimen. Esa es la realidad y no otra la que
 aparece en la mayoría de los sitios. Para muestra un botón: cuántas veces he
 visto en curriculums informática a nivel de usuario y ni siquiera saben
 insertar un campo con la fecha en el documento (no digo ya hacer macros
 sencillas con MSWord).

 Por eso, a un usuario normal, le da igual lo que tiene delante mientras el
 programa no le haga muchas preguntas. Linux se instala una vez, se prueba
 una vez, se configura para que el usuario no haga el burro Y PRÁCTICAMENTE TE 
 PUEDES OLVIDAR
 (perdón por el grito pues es alegría). Por esa razón puede
 servir de alternativa a windows u otros SO, pero ¿qué se necesita? un
 linuxero cerca. Un linuxero que puede atender a muchos amigos a la vez. Pero
 a partir de ahí, a partir de la instalación es raro, muy raro, que precises
 otra vez al que te lo instaló, a no ser que quieras sacarle mucho más jugo a
 la máquina. Por detrás queda el programa instalado que no va a colgarse
 práctcamente nunca.


Pues completamente de acuerdo, hombre; da gusto que alguien que se autocalifica 
casi de
profano se haya dado cuenta de algo tan simple; pensando en eso, un grupo de 
amigos y yo
estamos montando una empresa de informática para la pequeña empresa, y queremos 
basarnos
principalmente en LINUX; por cierto, y para que se vea que empezamos de 
pardillos, agradecería
que si alguien de por ahí ha hecho algo así, nos comentara algo de la 
experiencia; creo que
entre todos deberíamos hacer algo para demostrar que el LINUX no es un juguete 
para
informáticos raros, sino una opción comercial completamente real...
Buenos, hasta luego, y perdon por la parrafada...

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Re: LiNUX en la calle ???

1999-03-09 Thread carlos saldaña
Mar 07, 1998 at 05:45:47PM +0100
X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux 
Organization: toron.net

El Sat, Mar 07, 1998 at 05:45:47PM +0100, juanma decías:
 Estimados amigos de Debian:
  
 Entonces nos encontramos con tres tipos de usuario de un ordenador:
 
 1.- el que enreda (tarde o temprano usará linux)
 2.- el que no lo hace pero que solo utiliza un ordenador en casita y que
 seguirá siempre con windows conformándose con la típica enciclopedia en
 CDRom.
 3.- El que no enreda y tiene el ordenador como una herramienta de trabajo. A
 este, si se le instala (solo instalar) lo que necesita, podrá tirar con
 linux y con toda su filosofía y no querrá windows para nada.
 
 ¿A quién va dirigido Linux? Al inquieto y no a otro. Y el inquieto no quiere
 que le sirvan a la rusa quiere cortar él la carne.
 

Totalmente de acuerdo, aunque yo añadiría algo en el punto 2: ...pero que
como ha oido hablar tanto de linux, al comprar un nuevo ordenador pide que
le instalen la última distrib de RedHat, con arranque directo al kde, sin
login ni password, porque piensa que linux es la octava maravilla del mundo.
Este usuario seguramente, tras jugar un poquito con kde, olvidará-borrará la
partición de linux y pensará que los que usan linux son unos fanáticos, etc,
etc, etc.
Creo que todos los que usamos linux más o menos le hacemos cierta propaganda
dentro de nuestras posibilidades, aunque de una forma racional y señalando
las diferencias con win. Un énfasis exagerado podría ser, incluso,
contraproducente. Como bien dices, el inquieto acabará usando linux (y
debian a poco que se inquiete más). De hecho, el nº de usuarios linux
crece como la espuma, porque a casi nadie le gusta sentirse estafado. El uso
de linux en las redes de grandes empresas es otra historia. Dependerá, por
un lado, de los administradores de red de las empresas; por otro, la
estrategia de ventas que sigan las grandes multinacionales (lease IBM por
ejemplo). Si esas multinacionales pueden sacarle jugo a linux, ellas se
encargarán de instalar las redes con linux (Keynes dixit).
Resumiendo: creo que linux ya está en la calle, como así lo demuestran las
revistas de informática, que cada una dedica una sección, en sus páginas y
en los CD's, al mundo linux. Otra cosa es que esté o llegue a estar en las 
empresas...
Saludos.

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kernel 2.2 y procinfo

1999-03-09 Thread Francho
Estoy intentando actualizar el kernel de mi Debian 2 (hamm) a la version 2.2

He actualizado todo lo que me pedia en la documentacion, menos el el procinfo 
(me dice que necesito la version 15 y segun me dice el 'procinfo -v' yo tengo 
la 0.9)

¿Que paquete .deb tengo que actualizar?

Saludicos digitales
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Re: kernel 2.2 y procinfo

1999-03-09 Thread Hernan Joel Cervantes Rodriguez
SP, ma  9 mar 17:57:13 1999

Hola :

La informacion que pides esta aqui :

LNQRNMR2:~ procinfo -v
This is procinfo version 15 (1998-07-04)
LNQRNMR2:~ dpkg -S procinfo
sysutils: /usr/bin/procinfo
sysutils: /usr/man/man8/procinfo.8.gz
LNQRNMR2:~ dpkg -l sysutils
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-
ii  sysutils1.3.3.1Miscellaneous small system utilities.

 
 Estoy intentando actualizar el kernel de mi Debian 2 (hamm) a la version 2.2
 
 He actualizado todo lo que me pedia en la documentacion, menos el el procinfo 
(me dice que necesito la version 15 y segun me dice el 'procinfo -v' yo tengo 
la 
0.9)
 
 ¿Que paquete .deb tengo que actualizar?
 
 Saludicos digitales

Espero que te sirva,
Hernán

   Hernán J Cervantes Rodríguez
   Instituto de Física da USP
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Re: Netscape y rendimiento

1999-03-09 Thread Hue-Bond
El lunes 08 de marzo de 1999 a la(s) 09:06:26 +0100, Antonio Castro contaba:
On Sun, 7 Mar 1999, Hue-Bond wrote:

En mi opinión cuando el administrador va a alterar el funcionamiento normal
por alguna razón justificada debería hablar por telefono o en persona. El
correo electrónico sirve si avisa con un día.

 Yo me refería más que nada a 'wall'.


Por el contrario cuando el sistema está degradado y la gente no puede
trabajar normalmente más vale no hacer muchas preguntas y solucionar
el problema rápidamente.

 Tampoco es  que sea una pregunta.  Creo que con un  simple Por
 razones de rendimiento es necesario cerrar todos los Netscapes. Por
 favor, cierren el suyo y tal y cual, ya llega.


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RE: xdm question from a newbie

1999-03-09 Thread Andrei Ivanov
Xdm works fine ( when you have the X configured correctly) in hamm as
well. Just install xdm, and it will work.
If you ever want to get rid of it, edit the 
/etc/X11/config file and comment the line that says 
'start-xdm'
Same, to get it to work again,
uncomment that line.
Andrew

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Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-09 Thread steven walsh
On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Wayne Topa wrote:
[snip]

  I agree Steve, there are plenty of Manual(s) to read.  But for a new
 IRC user they sure confusing.  I have been trying to Window it but, as
 of yet, no luck.

Sure, there's plenty of documentation, unfortunately that's like
saying MS Office has plenty of documentation.  It's a pain to sort through
sometimes because there's just too many features in it.

My $.02

 See you on the flip side

- Steve Walsh (EfNet:#Babylon5:KnaraKat)
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xdm kdm

1999-03-09 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi,
I have got kde installed, but I never configured my systems to use
kdm. In my /etc/X11/config, I still have the line start-xdm. and even I
do a ps, I can only see xdm running, and no kdm. But when I shutdown my
linux box,
I got the message:
Shut down the kdm display manager
checking the local xservers
Shut down the xdm display manager  xdm is not running


So what did I do wrong? Am I missing anything here?/

thx.

Shao.



Diskless network booting

1999-03-09 Thread Corey Ralph
Can anyone offer me any advice on setting up diskless machines?

From what I have read, I should be able to boot from a bootrom and nfs mount
the root filesystem from a server.  Does anyone make bootroms for intel
eepro cards, as I don't have a working eprom burner?


FTP Install

1999-03-09 Thread Chuck Lackey
Hi All!
I'm trying to install via FTP with dselect.
I keep getting a Packages file not found error, but I can see the file in the 
directory.
any ideas?
Thanks!
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snmp

1999-03-09 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi,
How do I use snmp to reset all the statistics for all the ports??

if I do something like
snmpset IPPADDR COMMUNITY interfaces.ifTable.ifEntry.ifInOctets.1 i 0

it returns an error occured quitting...

thx

shao



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Re: modprobe errors

1999-03-09 Thread Pedro Guerreiro
On Mon, Mar 08, 1999 at 07:39:12PM -, Pollywog wrote:
 Here are some errors I am getting.  Below I include my /etc/modules.  I
 compiled the modules into the kernel, so do I need /etc/modules at all?

You have compiled the modules for _use_ with the kernel. If you wanted them
to be build _into_ the kernel you should have compiled them not as modules, but
as regular kernel options.

 Unusual System Events
 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Sorry, can't help you there. I've no ideia.

 # /etc/modules
 #auto

Anyway, why don't you uncomment the auto entry? This way the kernel loads
the modules as it needs them, and you don't have to mention all of them in
/etc/modules.

OTOH, why don't you try 2.2.x? It's great with the modules, installing and
removing them from memory and you don't even notice.

Cheers,
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Re: Setting time - Question

1999-03-09 Thread Michael Masi

   I would like the clock in my X-window environment to show my local
   time, not GMT/UTC. When I type in date I get my local time, when I type
   in date -u I get GMT, but how do I get a clock on

I had this problem after upgrading to slink.  First, run tzconfig to make
sure your time zone is set correctly.  Then, type 'hwclock --hctosys'  
This will synchronize the time that your internal clock uses (which should
be in the format you want) with Linux's software clock.  That should be
all there is to it.

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Framebuffer scan rates

1999-03-09 Thread Corey Ralph
Is there any way to change the scan rates of the framebuffer in the 2.2
kernel?  I finally got it all to work, but the default refresh rate is
really noticable (and gives me a headache!)


are the usernames case-insensitive?

1999-03-09 Thread Eliezer Figueroa
I create a user mario. After that I tried to create Mario and I was 
unable to do so. also I recive the same info fingering marion or Mario. 
Are the usernames case-insensitive?

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Re: are the usernames case-insensitive?

1999-03-09 Thread Andrei Ivanov
AFAIK, everything in Linux is case-sensitive.
Reason behind not being able to make user Mario is that user names do not
generally contain upper case letters. You can --force it, though.
Andrew

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unable to delete a home folder?

1999-03-09 Thread Eliezer Figueroa
I deleted a user and I forgot to use use -r to remove it's home folder. 
I erase all files in that directory with rm *. After that I used ls -l. 
It report zero files. Then I tried to delete the folder with rmdir but 
it reply that it is not empty why?



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Re: unable to delete a home folder?

1999-03-09 Thread Matthew Sachs

There are files that start with a . in the directory.  These are often
used for configuration stuff.  ls -lA will show you them, or just you rm
-rf to kill the whole directory and everything in it.

On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Eliezer Figueroa wrote:

 I deleted a user and I forgot to use use -r to remove it's home folder. 
 I erase all files in that directory with rm *. After that I used ls -l. 
 It report zero files. Then I tried to delete the folder with rmdir but 
 it reply that it is not empty why?

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Re: xserver fixated on tty7?

1999-03-09 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Mar 07, 1999 at 08:57:19PM -0800, Alan Su wrote:
 i probably missed something as i upgraded to slink today, but is the
 tty that the xserver uses somehow changed to be in some config file
 (rather than taking the first unused one)?

Yes.  See /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers.

 i had a couple extra virtual consoles which i used to use on tty7 and
 tty8.  after the upgrade, the xserver periodically got hosed (no
 response to keyboard input/mouse clicks) and when i was able to switch
 over to virtual consoles, i saw that the one sitting on tty7 was
 hosed.  i modified inittab to remove the two extra getty's, and now
 everything's back to normal.
 
 anyone have any ideas?  thanks.

This was done because, guess what, sometimes xdm would fire up its X server
on the first available VC, but getty hadn't yet taken control of it (don't
ask me why, xdm is the LAST thing started in the init sequence).  This
resulted in problems at least as bad as what you report (for many people,
it froze their console entirely, and a hard reset was the only way out).

So the first available VC allocation tactic does not work on all systems
during boot.  I therefore made the conffile ship with :0 on vt7, since the
inittab conffile ships with getty on vt1 through vt6.

There's more about this in /usr/doc/xdm/README.Debian.

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Re: unable to delete a home folder?

1999-03-09 Thread Andrei Ivanov
Because /home/username/ includes dot files.
Like, .bashrc,  etc.
To see them do la -la
To delete directory which is full, just use
rm -R dirname
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Re: modprobe errors

1999-03-09 Thread Pollywog

On 09-Mar-99 Pedro Guerreiro wrote:
 
 OTOH, why don't you try 2.2.x? It's great with the modules, installing and
 removing them from memory and you don't even notice.

I am staying away from the newer kernels because I don't know anything about
them, and I don't know how to use ipchains.

I fixed my problem.  All I had to do was remove the entries I had in
/etc/modules since all the modules are compiled into the kernel.

I upgraded to kernel 2.0.36 without problems, so I must have goofed the first
time I tried it.  I probably left something out.

thanks

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Re: [exim] Custom headers -- outgoing email

1999-03-09 Thread Frozen Rose

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Mitch Blevins  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do you tie a rewrite rule to a particular route?
The documentation wasn't very clear on this.  It seems that aaron would
want it to only rewrite the sender header going through the smarthost
route.

Mmm... point...

It's in the Exim cookbook, istr. You have to hack it ;) And run two
Exims, and pass messages between them.

Somewhere around this point you run into the Agony/Ecstasy Of
Rewriting holy war... sigh

I think the best solution is to pick one mail address you want on your
sender: line and stick to it, not try rewriting too much for an
internal domain. Although this probably isn't practical in all
cases...

SRH
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New Install

1999-03-09 Thread Joe
I am trying to install Official Debian 2.0 in my 48ram, 166meg, P.B.
system. I get to (A)ccess, It asks me for Where to install from with
chooses of CD, Floppy, Ect. When I choose CD-ROM, I go into a screen
that asks for CD, and block device. I don't know what a block device is,
or what my CD-ROM drive is. Any help?


Re: New Install

1999-03-09 Thread illusion
A block device is generally a physical storage device, such as a hard drive of
CD-ROM drive.  Assuming your system is based on IDE storage, your CD drive will 
be
/dev/hdX where X=the IDE device number.  The naming convention is simple once 
you get
the hang of it:  Primary Master=hda; Primary Slave=hdb; Secondary Master=hdc; 
Primary
Slave=hdd.


Joe wrote:

 I am trying to install Official Debian 2.0 in my 48ram, 166meg, P.B.
 system. I get to (A)ccess, It asks me for Where to install from with
 chooses of CD, Floppy, Ect. When I choose CD-ROM, I go into a screen
 that asks for CD, and block device. I don't know what a block device is,
 or what my CD-ROM drive is. Any help?

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Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-09 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Re: bitchx (sucks!)
Date: Mon, Mar 08, 1999 at 01:45:18PM -0600

In reply to:steven walsh

Quoting steven walsh([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   BitchX suffers from it's own unique form of feature creep.  Use
 IRCII with a nice script (one you are comfortable with and hopefully has
 no nasty backdoors like the ircN script that mIRC had *snicker*). 
   I hear EPIC is a nice client as well, but I haven't toyed with it
 yet.
 

I had a problem with Bitchx and looked for what was available in
slink.  Just downloaded zircon.  Wow, I'm inpressed.  Tck and loaded
with features.  I don't, haven't, used IRC before this week and I can
use this pgm.  Very nice.


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Re: wabi

1999-03-09 Thread Rick Macdonald
Craig T. Hancock wrote:
 
 Does anyone use wabi and if so please is it better than wine

I bought wabi 2 years ago just to run Quicken 4.0. At the time I
inquired about wine but it didn't seem ready enough. I couldn't risk
years worth of financial data to it. Wabi has been pretty good; I
haven't lost anything in two years.

You didn't say, but unless you have old applications (win3.x) then wabi
probably won't work for you. 

The success of wine seems to depend on the particular application and
version. Consult the rating lists available from the wabi web site.

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Re: New Install

1999-03-09 Thread Andrei Ivanov
Well...it's basicly asking you where in the system CDrom is.
Like, primary IDE master drive is /dev/hda
Primary slave is /dev/hdb
Secondary master is /dev/hdc
Secondary slave is /dev/hdd
Just figure out which one is yours, and enter it there.
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Read-only not Read Write

1999-03-09 Thread Joe
After installing Debian 2.0, I need to edit /dev/mod, to /dev/ttys. But
the system does not give permission. On boot of linux, a line says
read-only is my system read -only? How bo I make my system read-write
so I can edit?


Re: New Install

1999-03-09 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Mar 08, 1999 at 09:22:43PM -0500, Joe wrote:
 I am trying to install Official Debian 2.0 in my 48ram, 166meg, P.B.
 system. I get to (A)ccess, It asks me for Where to install from with
 chooses of CD, Floppy, Ect. When I choose CD-ROM, I go into a screen
 that asks for CD, and block device. I don't know what a block device is,
 or what my CD-ROM drive is. Any help?

There are two possible cases (three really).

You have a normal ATAPI CD ROM on IDE controller.

 Check if this is on your primary IDE controller, or on your secondary.
 Also, if it is Master or Slave. Probably the information is in the BIOS.

(modern BIOS show a list of four IDE devices:

1  AUTO  LBA  would be a hard drive at 
master/primary
2  CDROM  would be CD ROM at slave/primary
3  AUTO  LBA  again hard drive
4  NONE   ooops. empty

Those four ports are called /dev/hda, /dev/hdb, /dev/hdc, /dev/hdd under
Linux.

A block device transmits data in blocks instead of byte by byte. Don't
worry, you don't need to know what a block device is.

If you have SCSI, the names are /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, /dev/sdc, etc.

When Linux boots, you can see the auto detection working. If you want to
halt the messages, press the key between break and print (roll on my
keyboard). Ther terminal will stop and you can go up with SHIFT+ PG UP and
down with SHIFT+ PG DOWN. Press again Roll to continue with start up.

YOu should try to get he online information (Install Manual)

Hope that helps,
Marcus




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Bogomips disparity

1999-03-09 Thread Pann McCuaig
I'll be looking for some docs to explain this, but in the meantime
perhaps someone knows off the top . . .

Just screwed together a couple of new boxes. AMD K6/2-350 CPUs.

The kernel on the slink rescue disk (2.1.8) as well as the kernel
installed as slink:kernel-image-2.0.36 both report ~350 bogomips.

The kernel on Tom's Root Boot Disk reports ~700 bogomips.

We're talking 2.0.36 in all cases.

Any ideas?
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Re: Read-only not Read Write

1999-03-09 Thread Andrei Ivanov
That depends who you are logged in as. If you are root, then it don't
matter. If you are a user...well, then you can not do much of maintenance
work, have to be root for that.
Your system is not read-only. If it were, you'd not be able to save
anything. Nor would the system itself (log files, etc.)
To make sure check out your /etc/fstab and see which flags are given to /.
Should be rw
Andrew

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Re: Bogomips disparity

1999-03-09 Thread ktb
I remember this being discussed a month or so ago.  You might take a look at the
User's archives at,

http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/

Good luck,
Kent

Pann McCuaig wrote:

 I'll be looking for some docs to explain this, but in the meantime
 perhaps someone knows off the top . . .

 Just screwed together a couple of new boxes. AMD K6/2-350 CPUs.

 The kernel on the slink rescue disk (2.1.8) as well as the kernel
 installed as slink:kernel-image-2.0.36 both report ~350 bogomips.

 The kernel on Tom's Root Boot Disk reports ~700 bogomips.

 We're talking 2.0.36 in all cases.

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Re: AcceleratedX

1999-03-09 Thread Alex Yukhimets
 I would like to put debian on my laptop but my chipset is not supported by
 Xfree in the accelerated mode.
 Will Accelerated X Laptop Server work with debian??

Yes, it will. Just make sure to install AccelX server ONLY. (Well, may be also
fonts, if you like). DO NOT INSTALL their X libraries. Be aware that AccelX
is still libc5-based so you will need to install libc5, xlib6, xpm4.7, etc
Debian packages (libc5-based compatibility libraries).

But look at Metro-X (www.metrolink.com) first.


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Re: Framebuffer scan rates

1999-03-09 Thread Vaidhyanathan G Mayilrangam
Try fbset.. and read the /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/*...

Cheers,
Vaidhy
On Tue, Mar 09, 1999 at 11:43:37AM +1000, Corey Ralph wrote:
 Is there any way to change the scan rates of the framebuffer in the 2.2
 kernel?  I finally got it all to work, but the default refresh rate is
 really noticable (and gives me a headache!)
 
 
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Prob:block on freelist at 00b10bd1 isn't free

1999-03-09 Thread rick hunter
Can anyone help me with this error mesg?

Prob:block on freelist at 00b10bd1 isn't free

I usually get it when I am using the dselect program,
afterwhich any program I run (including shutdown)
will result in the same error mesg.

The only solution currently is to rebot the system.


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Re: writing device drivers for fbsd

1999-03-09 Thread Ramakrishnan M
On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Wayne Cuddy wrote:

 What is a good reference to learn to to write device drivers for fbsd?  I
 remember some recommended a good book a few months ago but forgot to save the
 message.
   There is a book Linux Device Drivers ( or a similar name) by
Alexandro Rubini published by O'Reilly.It is a bit costly (by indian
standards,so I do not have it).I don't know whether it contains anything
on fbsd. 

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Re: are the usernames case-insensitive?

1999-03-09 Thread John Hasler
Andrei Ivanov writes:
 AFAIK, everything in Linux is case-sensitive.  Reason behind not being
 able to make user Mario is that user names do not generally contain upper
 case letters. You can --force it, though.

But it isn't a good idea.  According to the RFC's email addresses are not
supposed to be case-sensitive.  This means that some MTA's may confound
mario and Mario.
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Acct and kernel 2.2.x

1999-03-09 Thread jusak
Hi, I am having problem with the acct when upgrading to kernel 2.2.1
I am using acct_6.3.5-6 and it seems that it cannot recognize the 
/var/account/pacct file format anymore. When I try lastcomm, it will
produce garbage and usually with comment 'Segmentation fault' at the end.
Anyone can point me where the problem is.

Thanks,

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New install question

1999-03-09 Thread rathon
Hi,

I have two questions for a new installation(Debian2.0):

1)After completing all the installation and setting up Xserver, I
found out that the root pulldown menu of my 'olvwm' has the 'Debian'
selection ghosted...I cannot select it. How do I fix this ?

2)I would like to install Linux on my work NT machine. There is enough
unpartionted harddrive space to do this. 
I have never used LILO before or the NT boot loader. At home I use 
'System Commander' to select boot options.
Can you point me to the do's and don't and HOW-TO's before I install Linux
on this NT box and how I should use LILO ?

Thanks in advance,
Rathon


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Re: New install question

1999-03-09 Thread servis
*- On  8 Mar, rathon wrote about New install question

 2)I would like to install Linux on my work NT machine. There is enough
 unpartionted harddrive space to do this. 
 I have never used LILO before or the NT boot loader. At home I use 
 'System Commander' to select boot options.
 Can you point me to the do's and don't and HOW-TO's before I install Linux
 on this NT box and how I should use LILO ?

There is a mini-HOWTO in the doc-linux-text package called 
/usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/Linux+NT-Loader.gz that will probably get you
started.  

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Re: TOP

1999-03-09 Thread Geoffrey Deasey KD4WVF

Thanks everyone who responded to my question about top

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Re: I can't believe this

1999-03-09 Thread Jesse Evans
Folks,

My 2- cents:

I've come from a background of writing dataacq apps for DOS/Windows for
product manufacturing. Maybe that gives me a leg up to getting a Linux system
running, maybe it doesn't.

Still, I found that downloading a dozen or so floppies and installing
to a dual-disk NT system was pretty painless. I didn't really have to think
very hard about the choices offered to me and, other than the length of time it
took to download the distribution over a 28.8 modem, I managed to get a very
stable machine up rather quickly. My wife and 6 year old son have very rapidly
learned what it takes to get useful results from this system and our overall
experience has been very pleasant. (Of cousre, having access to this mailing
list has been of imeasureable help!  :-)

I feel that most of the press coverage of Linux has been tainted by the
commercial marketing efforts of certain distributions. If I were a writer and
had no knowledge of the subject matter of my current task, I would first look
to other media to see what gets the most play and work from there. If Debian is
to suceed in the Linux markeplace they need to increase their marketing
influence, but I think that's not their real goal; they instead want to create
the best distribution available and hope that those who truly care will find
their way through the Linux jungle.

 'til next we type...
HAVE FUN!! -- Jesse


What to do with base???

1999-03-09 Thread Mark Phillips
My system is now uptodate with the newly released Slink, but there are
now a number of obsolete packages.  In particular, there are two
_required_ packages listed as obsolete:

--- Obsolete/local Required packages in section base ---
 *__ Req base base 1.1.0-14none
 *** Req base slang0.99.38 0.99.38-6   none

When dselect attempts to delete base, it complains that

This is an essential package - it should not be removed.

Now I could use dpkg to force its removal, but when I asked about this
on the list earlier, George Bonser told me:

NO DO NOT REMOVE BASE! IT WILL KILL YOUR SYSTEM!!!

Just wait, that is a known bug and is on the list of bugs that must be
fixed. Leave it until there is a solution for the
problem. Otherwise you will remove several vital packages.

But now that Slink has been officially released, has this bug been
fixed?  Is there a way to safely remove base?  (Not to mention
slang0.99.38)

Thanks,

Mark.




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Re:(solution) What to do with base???

1999-03-09 Thread servis
*- On  9 Mar, Mark Phillips wrote about What to do with base???
 My system is now uptodate with the newly released Slink, but there are
 now a number of obsolete packages.  In particular, there are two
 _required_ packages listed as obsolete:
 
 --- Obsolete/local Required packages in section base ---
  *__ Req base base 1.1.0-14none
  *** Req base slang0.99.38 0.99.38-6   none
 
 When dselect attempts to delete base, it complains that
 
 This is an essential package - it should not be removed.
 
 Now I could use dpkg to force its removal, but when I asked about this
 on the list earlier, George Bonser told me:
 
 NO DO NOT REMOVE BASE! IT WILL KILL YOUR SYSTEM!!!
 
 Just wait, that is a known bug and is on the list of bugs that must be
 fixed. Leave it until there is a solution for the
 problem. Otherwise you will remove several vital packages.
 
 But now that Slink has been officially released, has this bug been
 fixed?  Is there a way to safely remove base?  (Not to mention
 slang0.99.38)
 

If I remember correclty you can remove slang without a problem.  The
solution to remove base without waiting for a clean way to do it in
dselect is, and I quote from
http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9707/msg01109.html

  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eloy A. Paris) 
  Subject: Re: 1.3.1 upgrade: getting rid of the package base 1.1.0-13 -- 
dselect and downgrading dosemu 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) 
  Date: Fri, 11 Jul 97 16:45 PDT 
  References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Reply-To: Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  However, edit /var/lib/dpkg/status and remove the paragraph
  about the base package, and that will effectively purge it.
  Forcing dpkg to remove the package removes all of the files in /dev.
  It's my error, sorry.

   Bruce


Then remove the files /var/lib/dpkg/info/base.*

That worked for me when I did it.

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IP_ALIAS (kernel 2.2.1)

1999-03-09 Thread Oz Dror
Hi

I amgoing to have SDSL connected to my private network (192.168.0.x)
I have 3com (3905b Net card). I would like to connect the SDSL to my local
ethernet HUb. I will be assigned a fixe IP to comunicate with the world.

I compiled the kernel to support IP aliasing so that I could use the same
ethernet card for the local network and the Global network having different
IP for each network.

But when I type 
ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.1.5 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255

I get the following error
SIOCSIFADDR: Operation not supported by device
SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not supported by device
SIOCSIFNETMASK: Operation not supported by device
SIOCSIFBRDADDR: Operation not supported by device
SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not supported by device

When I type 
ifconfig eth0:0

I get
eth0:0Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:10:5A:26:04:F1  
  unspec addr:[NONE SET]  Bcast:[NONE SET]  Mask:[NONE SET]
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  Collisions:0 
  Interrupt:10 Base address:0xa800 

this tels me that the card is recognized.



Thanks


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Linux! Linux!

1999-03-09 Thread Humberto Sachs
I met some of you at the Linux World conference. Here is a little tough:

Linux World Conference
It was a pleasure to see so much enthusiasm about an alternative to the
current proprietary systems that keep fighting each other and limiting
our freedom (http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/).
While it seems like the roots for a great open source system is well
being taken care of with the many Linux projects, there is not enough
going on to take advantage of this awakening to do Wright this time.
Lots of talk about compatibility, transportability, multiple platform,
etc., but missing the fundamental: no standardization = no functional
commonality = no design driven software compiler = back into the agony
of the current proprietary systems. I hate to insist, but if we do not
have a Functional Thesaurus™ for functional standardization, leading to
a System Design Methodology (SDM) which guarantees integration of the
software elements and software/hardware elements, the future of LINUX is
compromised. See www.stargate-se.com Forum.

The current path will lead to Applications (database, word processing,
Internet development and browsers, multimedia, h/w components,
peripherals, etc.) which cannot provide the needed standardization for
the user. One must understand, first of all, that the application
requiring extreme specialization to make it productive is yesterday
thinking. The great number of user (99 of every 100 users) cannot afford
the specialization. They need to be productive with multiple tools that
must allow the integration the resulting data.

On the other hand, the creation of the Functional Thesaurus™ and SDM
will lead to the ultimate software development environment. Graphical
user interface, like today's Visual C++,  is just a small token into the
total graphical functional software development tool needed. Join that
revolution at the Stargate Forum, discussions and projects.

I would be interested in getting some help from you, as well as maybe
provide you with support at the design/documentation level.

from Humberto W. Sachs - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Visit www.stargate-se.com, from ancient mysteries,
  H.G. Wells, Star Trek and Star War visions
  to the Stargate of tomorrow's reality
  *  Only for the brave and courageous *
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Re: xdm kdm

1999-03-09 Thread Sergey V Kovalyov
 Hi,
 I have got kde installed, but I never configured my systems to use
 kdm. In my /etc/X11/config, I still have the line start-xdm. and even I
   ^^^
That's the reason. If you want to start kdm instead, change it to
start-kdm.

 do a ps, I can only see xdm running, and no kdm. But when I shutdown my
 linux box,
 I got the message:
 Shut down the kdm display manager

It just says it executes the /etc/init.d/kdm script (which actually checks
for the start-kdm line on startup but does not on shutdown)

 checking the local xservers
 Shut down the xdm display manager  xdm is not running

Here the kdm script already has stopped the xdm.

I have to give you a little warning though. If you upgrade to slink, it
does not have /etc/X11/config file. Instead, xdm is started as soon as you
install the xdm package. In order to switch to kdm you'll need to:
1) remove original /etc/init.d/kdm (it still uses that config file) and
copy it from /etc/init.d/xdm.
2) edit the new /etc/init.d/kdm to replace xdm with kdm.
3) disable original /etc/init.d/xdm either by inserting exit 0 somewhere
in the beginning of the script, or removing links to xdm from /etc/rc.*/

Sergey.



RE: IP_ALIAS (kernel 2.2.1)

1999-03-09 Thread Shaleh

On 09-Mar-99 Oz Dror wrote:
 Hi
 
 I amgoing to have SDSL connected to my private network (192.168.0.x)
 I have 3com (3905b Net card). I would like to connect the SDSL to my local
 ethernet HUb. I will be assigned a fixe IP to comunicate with the world.
 

Lucky you (-:

Not to ask the obvious question but did you compile all the IP_ALIAS stuff (as
a module or otherwise)??


More than 5 SCSI disks? (/dev/sdf: ENXIO)

1999-03-09 Thread Dr. Andreas Wehler
Hello.

 There are 5 SCSI disks happily running at sda - sde.  The 6th
disk is accepted as /dev/sdf, as the kernel output after lilo
says.  But fdisk /dev/sdf fails with Unable to open /dev/sdf.
strace fdisk /dev/sdf gives

   open(/dev/sdf, O_RDWR)= -1 ENXIO (Device not configured)
   open(/dev/sdf, O_RDONLY)  = -1 ENXIO (Device not configured)

 What is missing here?  Other details follow, thank you.

 Andreas Wehler




Debian 2.0
# uname -a
Linux classix 2.0.34 #3 Thu Jan 14 10:38:59 CET 1999 i686 unknown



# cat /proc/scsi/scsi
Attached devices: 
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00   (- sda)
  Vendor: IBM  Model: DDRS-39130W  Rev: S92A
  Type:   Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 01 Lun: 00   (- sdb)
  Vendor: IBM  Model: DDRS-39130W  Rev: S92A
  Type:   Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 02 Lun: 00   (- sdc)
  Vendor: IBM  Model: DDRS-39130W  Rev: S92A
  Type:   Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 04 Lun: 00
  Vendor: HP   Model: C1533A   Rev: A708
  Type:   Sequential-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00
  Vendor: TEAC Model: CD-ROM CD-532S   Rev: 1.0A
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 06 Lun: 00
  Vendor: YAMAHA   Model: CRW4260  Rev: 1.0j
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00   (- sdd)
  Vendor: SEAGATE  Model: ST19171N Rev: 0024
  Type:   Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 01 Lun: 00   (- sde)
  Vendor: SEAGATE  Model: ST19171N Rev: 0024
  Type:   Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 02 Lun: 00   (- sdf)
  Vendor: SEAGATE  Model: ST39140N Rev: 1281
  Type:   Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02



# ls -al /dev/sdf*
brw-rw   1 root disk   8,  80 Jun 24  1998 /dev/sdf
brw-rw   1 root disk   8,  81 Jun 24  1998 /dev/sdf1
brw-rw   1 root disk   8,  90 Jun 24  1998 /dev/sdf10
brw-rw   1 root disk   8,  91 Jun 24  1998 /dev/sdf11
brw-rw   1 root disk   8,  92 Jun 24  1998 /dev/sdf12
brw-rw   1 root disk   8,  93 Jun 24  1998 /dev/sdf13
brw-rw   1 root disk   8,  94 Jun 24  1998 /dev/sdf14
brw-rw   1 root disk   8,  95 Jun 24  1998 /dev/sdf15
brw-rw   1 root disk   8,  82 Jun 24  1998 /dev/sdf2
brw-rw   1 root disk   8,  83 Jun 24  1998 /dev/sdf3
brw-rw   1 root disk   8,  84 Jun 24  1998 /dev/sdf4
brw-rw   1 root disk   8,  85 Jun 24  1998 /dev/sdf5
brw-rw   1 root disk   8,  86 Jun 24  1998 /dev/sdf6
brw-rw   1 root disk   8,  87 Jun 24  1998 /dev/sdf7
brw-rw   1 root disk   8,  88 Jun 24  1998 /dev/sdf8
brw-rw   1 root disk   8,  89 Jun 24  1998 /dev/sdf9



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dvisvga (tmview) can't do resolution more than -d320x200!

1999-03-09 Thread Mark Phillips
I've just installed dvisvga and discovered that it can't seem to
handle resolutions higher than 320x200.  Now I have a SVGA card that
should be capable of handling 1024x768 --- certainly, this is the
resolution of X.  When I try I get the following error:

fatal error: display: no such vga-mode on this machine

How can this be?  How can I fix it?

Thanks,

Mark.



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Re: New Install

1999-03-09 Thread ivan
At 08:38 PM 3/8/99 -0600, Andrei Ivanov wrote:
Well...it's basicly asking you where in the system CDrom is.
Like, primary IDE master drive is /dev/hda
Primary slave is /dev/hdb
Secondary master is /dev/hdc
Secondary slave is /dev/hdd
Just figure out which one is yours, and enter it there.
Andrew

snip

Just a question ...

I already have installed Debian/GNU Linux many times and each time the same
question occurs to me ... why is it that the CD-ROM device name cannot be
auto-detected in Linux as it is in Windows (and maybe then automounted if
it contains a disk) ?

Sorry for the Q. this has bugged me for a long time and this seems an
appropriate thread to add to.

Ivan


Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-09 Thread homega
steven walsh dixit:
 On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Wayne Topa wrote:
 [snip]
 
   I agree Steve, there are plenty of Manual(s) to read.  But for a new
  IRC user they sure confusing.  I have been trying to Window it but, as
  of yet, no luck.
 
   Sure, there's plenty of documentation, unfortunately that's like
 saying MS Office has plenty of documentation.  It's a pain to sort through
 sometimes because there's just too many features in it.

Steve, most of the docs you pointed out say next to nothing.  One may try to
guess (as surely most bitchx users do) how to work things out, and that
works some times, but not always.

What really puts me off is the fact that, eg., /help say, will tell me how
to show some fancy (but useless and annoying to others) way of echoing the
typed characters on screen, and though other commands, probably more useful,
there's no help available or almost none.

What DID make me angry was the fact that whenever I tried to join #bitchx to
get some help, I was banned from entering the reason being spammers,
flooders and cloners, oh my!

I just felt they didn't want most ppl using their program (whoever they
were), fair enough, just don't make it publicly available and make me waste
my time.

   My $.02

BTW, is there any way of typying the new euro sign?  how about the old cent
sign?

Horacio.


Re: lprng from slink (Debian 2.1) so secure can't use it!!!

1999-03-09 Thread Gustavo Gonzalez
You are absolutely wright! I just downgrade to hamm for the same problem. I 
could
print in text mode only, but I think the problem was not due to permission 
mistakes.
Anyway I will stop the upgrade to slink to total defrozen.

James D. Freels wrote:

 The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
 that has been posted to linux.debian.user as well.

 I just upgraded from hamm to slink.  I have found one problem with the
 upgrade in the lprng package.  I downgraded to the hamm version until
 such time as it gets fixed.  Basically after installing the new
 version, I could not print due to some time of permissions error.  I
 have the standard lpd.conf and lpd.perms files as defined by Debian.

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RMAIL mode and metamail frustrations

1999-03-09 Thread David van Leeuwen
Hi,

more  more often i get MIME messages from other people, often with just plain 
text.

There are also a lot of people using `quoted printable' iso-latin-1 or 
something like
that.

I read mail with Emacs RMAIL mode, mainly because i do everything in Emacs.

Lately, under Debian pre-2.1 (slink), all my M-x metamail-interpret-body 
commands
give me a viewer
(xterm) that allow me to read a message once.  Then it is gone.

Is there a _clean_ way in modern Debian that will allow me to read/process MIME 
and
quoted-printable
messages withing RMAIL?  It is quite frustrating that Emacs can do anything 
except
treat mail attachments
cleanly, like every stupid silly mail reading PC-program can.

---david



imap/pop3 problem

1999-03-09 Thread STEFAN_CYRIS
 Hi
 
 Mybe it's off-topic so I'm sorry.
 
 I used IMAP for the last months but now I have to use POP3. Is there a 
 possibility to get the imap folder structure via POP3 or to save the 
 structure on HDD ?
 
 thanx
 
 Stefan


X problem with slink

1999-03-09 Thread Daniel Faller
Hello !

I use a 
DIAMOND Fire GL 1000 Pro
with 3D Labs Permedia 2  and Xserver XF86_3DLabs. Since
upgrading to slink some programs report X errrors.

PV wave  :  Not enough colours available
xmaple: X-Error BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 
[resid=10 opcode=(56,0)]   

Can someone help   ?


Thanks

 --
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Fakultaet fur Physik
Abt. Honerkamp
Albert-Ludwigs-Universitaet Freiburg

Tel.: 0761-203-5875
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KDE x Gnome

1999-03-09 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
Hi Debian users,
I'm wondering if the new Qt license released a week or so ago is DFSG?
I saw some news screenshots of KOffice at:
http://www.linux-magazin.de/ausgabe.1999.03/KOffice/koffice.html
and I cant waiting to install koffice Debian packages and other kde apps. :) 
I already have Gnome debian packages installed but would be good to get 
the best of both worlds.
Have a nice day


WVDial segfaulting

1999-03-09 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
Hi Debian users,
a friend of mine installed Debian 2.0 and tried to connect in Internet
using pppconfig and doesnt suceed but with wvdial he can connect in Net but
when he disconects wvdial segfaults and he has to reboot the computer.
Any ideas? I think that he is using the last wvdial because he updates
do Debian 2.1 later.
Have a nice day,Paulo Henrique


Re: Prob:block on freelist at 00b10bd1 isn't free

1999-03-09 Thread Edward Kear
At 07:37 PM 3/8/99 PST, rick hunter wrote:
Can anyone help me with this error mesg?

Prob:block on freelist at 00b10bd1 isn't free

I usually get it when I am using the dselect program,
afterwhich any program I run (including shutdown)
will result in the same error mesg.

The only solution currently is to rebot the system.


I started getting this message after I installed a set of new simms.
When I tested them I found a bad memory location.  Replaced the simms and
it never happened again.

Ed


Printer in kernel 2.2.1

1999-03-09 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
Hi Debian users,
I'm setting a printer with the new kernel: 2.2.1. When I tried make
xconfig and search for parallel printer support in character devices section I
couldnt mark the option. It's in gray collor. How I can mark this option?
Have a nice day,Paulo Henrique


Where is the exim cookbook? Was Re:[exim] Custom headers

1999-03-09 Thread David B. Teague

On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, George Bonser wrote:

 On 9 Mar 1999, Frozen Rose wrote:
 
  
  In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  Mitch Blevins  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  How do you tie a rewrite rule to a particular route?
  The documentation wasn't very clear on this.  
 
[snip]
  
  It's in the Exim cookbook, istr. 
[snip]

Where is the Exim cookbook? It didn't come with a recent stock 
exim installation.

I have a recently installed frozen/slink, where exim is the 
default.  There is no exim cookbook, nor any file named istr, 
nor any file with that substring in its name. 

Please tell me where  I can find the exim cookbook.

BTW: The slink install was much easier than Hamm. Thanks, guys.

--David Teague
Debian GNU/Linux: Because software should be expected to be stable;
  reboots are for hardware and kernel upgrades.


Outgoing port 53 redirected to special port.

1999-03-09 Thread Björn Elwhagen
Hello!

I have a slight problem that i want to solve. Since the admins on our
school is really nosy and scans our computers for ftp and web-servers
among, to name a few examples i would like to shut them out completely
from my computer. As it is now i have a pretty straight-forward firewall
that only allows certain IP's that i accept to connect to my computer.

Just for the sake of it and for learning-purposes i would now like to
build a better wall. The problem is that one computer that they scan
from is the name-server and that one is hard to isolate it completely
from here. The only thing i allow from the DNS is UDP from 1024-65535
since DNS, in case the packets isn't larger than 512 bytes which i
haven't encountered so far, uses UDP on a port that the program can
access itself.

What i now would like to do is to organize it so that all the outgoing
requests to the nameserver goes through a special port. I guess it would
be done it i set up a nameserver on my own machine that sends the
requests which should come back on port 53 but i don't like the idea of
another large program that takes up my memory.

1) Is there a way just using chains to do that task or do i have to
learn how masquerading works too?

An example of how i would like it to be: netscape sends a gethostname()
and the request goes out on, lets say, port 567 to the nameserver which
responds to the same port on my computer and netscape gets the IP it
searched for.

2) Another question is, is it possible to isolate 2 or more specific
IP's with the same mask? How would i do? I guess that it would be
possible with some sort of simple boolean algebra but i'm not sure.

Example: isolate the addresses 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.2 and 10.0.0.7.

I would be very glad if someone could help me out here. I know how to
set up chains using ipchains so that won't be nessecery to explain, but
i haven't fooled around with masquerading so that's the problem perhaps.
These questions is directed to people that are kind enough to send me a
good answer and not just to point to a bunch of HOWTO's.

Advance thanks.

// Marwin

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Re: Printer in kernel 2.2.1

1999-03-09 Thread servis
*- On  9 Mar, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote about Printer in 
kernel 2.2.1
   Hi Debian users,
   I'm setting a printer with the new kernel: 2.2.1. When I tried make
 xconfig and search for parallel printer support in character devices section I
 couldnt mark the option. It's in gray collor. How I can mark this option?
   Have a nice day,Paulo Henrique
 
 

Printer support in the new kernel has lots of possibilities:

General Setup:
* Parallel port support  == required
*PC-style hardware   == required for x86

Plug and Play Support:
*   Auto-probe for parallel devices
Character Devices:
* Parallel printer support   == required
[*]   Support IEEE1284 status readback  == I like this!


At boot with the above options selected I get this:

parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,ECP,ECPEPP,ECPPS2]
parport0: detected irq 7; use procfs to enable interrupt-driven operation.
parport0: Printer, HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 660C

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 because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes. 
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debian-cd for slink ?

1999-03-09 Thread Hamori Andras
Hi there,

do you know about any tool for creating the slink cd-images from a mirror
of the distribution (like the debian-cd package in hamm) ?

Thanks,
Andras



debian-cd

1999-03-09 Thread Peter Shtinkov
I want to make Debian CDs, but I cannot find debian-cd package in slink
or potato.
If anybody knows how to use debian-cd from hamm or any other solution
for this problem - please help me!
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version:2.1
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title:System Administrator
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tel;work:(+359 2) 974 3238
fn:Peter Shtinkov
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Re: Outgoing port 53 redirected to special port.

1999-03-09 Thread Maarten Boekhold
 Just for the sake of it and for learning-purposes i would now like to
 build a better wall. The problem is that one computer that they scan
 from is the name-server and that one is hard to isolate it completely
 from here. The only thing i allow from the DNS is UDP from 1024-65535
 since DNS, in case the packets isn't larger than 512 bytes which i
 haven't encountered so far, uses UDP on a port that the program can
 access itself.
 
 What i now would like to do is to organize it so that all the outgoing
 requests to the nameserver goes through a special port. I guess it would
 be done it i set up a nameserver on my own machine that sends the

Wouldn't it be sufficient for this purpose to only accept connections on
those ports which are in reply to a request from your own system? I
thought ipfwadm could do this with the '-k' flag.

 requests which should come back on port 53 but i don't like the idea of
 another large program that takes up my memory.

It's not that big, and you could even make it caching so your lookups
will be a little faster.

Maarten

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Re: IP_ALIAS (kernel 2.2.1)

1999-03-09 Thread Ian Keith Setford

I will assume that you are running slink because you did not say.  I also
assume that the version of netbase you are running is 3.11-xx.  Download
the netbase package from unstable/Potato (v. 3.12) and your IP aliasing
should work normally.  For some reason the slink/3.11 version of netbase
doesn't work correctly with the 2.2.x series kernels.  

Let me know if this solves your problem.

-Ian

On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Oz Dror wrote:

 Hi
 
 I amgoing to have SDSL connected to my private network (192.168.0.x)
 I have 3com (3905b Net card). I would like to connect the SDSL to my local
 ethernet HUb. I will be assigned a fixe IP to comunicate with the world.
 
 I compiled the kernel to support IP aliasing so that I could use the same
 ethernet card for the local network and the Global network having different
 IP for each network.
 
 But when I type 
 ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.1.5 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255
 
 I get the following error
 SIOCSIFADDR: Operation not supported by device
 SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not supported by device
 SIOCSIFNETMASK: Operation not supported by device
 SIOCSIFBRDADDR: Operation not supported by device
 SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not supported by device
 
 When I type 
 ifconfig eth0:0
 
 I get
 eth0:0Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:10:5A:26:04:F1  
   unspec addr:[NONE SET]  Bcast:[NONE SET]  Mask:[NONE SET]
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   Collisions:0 
   Interrupt:10 Base address:0xa800 
 
 this tels me that the card is recognized.
 
 
 
 Thanks
 
 
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RE: lprng and slink

1999-03-09 Thread Peter Ludwig
You are absolutely wright! I just downgrade to hamm for the same problem.
I could print in text mode only, but I think the problem was not due to 
permission
mistakes. Anyway I will stop the upgrade to slink to total defrozen.

 The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
 that has been posted to linux.debian.user as well.

 I just upgraded from hamm to slink.  I have found one problem with the
 upgrade in the lprng package.  I downgraded to the hamm version until
 such time as it gets fixed.  Basically after installing the new
 version, I could not print due to some time of permissions error.  I
 have the standard lpd.conf and lpd.perms files as defined by Debian.

Just a question for both parties concerned here, did you remember to
change your printer setup over to the new lp* format?

Slink has removed lp0 and replaced it with lp1 (I believe that's the way
it is), anyway I first off could not print under slink until I had a look
at the new config file, and realised it had hosed my configuration for my
printer, and also changed the printer port... but it's working great now
that I've changed the printer port to the new settings.

Actually I've just remembered, the new kernel version (2.2.1 is what I'm
running) is the thing that changed the lp port... geez, have to remember
these things else I'll be considered a fool... (though that isn't hard for
people who have actually met me) grin.

Regards,
Peter Ludwig


Re: IP_ALIAS (kernel 2.2.1)

1999-03-09 Thread Dale E. Martin
Oz Dror [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi
 
 I amgoing to have SDSL connected to my private network (192.168.0.x)
 I have 3com (3905b Net card). I would like to connect the SDSL to my local
 ethernet HUb. I will be assigned a fixe IP to comunicate with the world.

I know I'm answering a different question, but maybe it's useful info to
you.  I have ADSL and a private network.  What I did was put two NICs into
one machine which acts as a firewall for my network and does IP
masquerading.  The advantage of doing it this way is simply that you can
firewall your subnet and share the speedy connection.  I realize that
putting a private subnet behind a firewall is somewhat paranoid.  I find it 
somewhat reassuring though :-)

Later,
Dale
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Linux and Partition Magic

1999-03-09 Thread Christian Dysthe
Hello Debian-user,

  I have Windows and Linux on my HD. As time has passed I now prefer
  my Debian installation and seldom use Windows (big surprise, eh?:)

  I want to expand/move my Linux partition and I do have Partition
  Magic on my system. Will using Partition Magic harm my Linux
  installation? I use LILO as bootmanager to boot both Windows and
  Linux.


//Christian

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Is ftp.debian.org down?

1999-03-09 Thread Lawrence Walton
Yes I know that slink was released but

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Re: Linux and Partition Magic

1999-03-09 Thread Odin
 Hello Debian-user,
 
   I have Windows and Linux on my HD. As time has passed I now prefer
   my Debian installation and seldom use Windows (big surprise, eh?:)
 
   I want to expand/move my Linux partition and I do have Partition
   Magic on my system. Will using Partition Magic harm my Linux
   installation? I use LILO as bootmanager to boot both Windows and
   Linux.

I don't believe so unless you do something silly like delete your boot
partition.  Also remember lilo stores information on what partition to
boot based on hda1, hda2, etc, so if you remove hda1 and create two
partitions where it was, your hda2 will become hda3, etc... just boot from
the rescue disk, edit lilo.conf to reflect these changes, run /sbin/lilo,
edit /etc/fstab to reflect the changes, and away you go.

HTH

-Dano


New Install

1999-03-09 Thread Joe
I have installed Debian-Linux, after I boot, and the system asks for the
login, I log in as root. the problem is I'm at a $prompt, I don't know
what to do from their. I need to change /dev/mod.. to /dev/ttys... but
the sys. says I do not have permission. Any help?


RE: WVDial segfaulting

1999-03-09 Thread Person, Roderick
I use wvdial and have never had nay problems. How is he disconnecting it? Is
he using it under X or Console. You can hit 
ctrl + C and it will 'attempt to exit gracfully' and disconnect without seg
faults



 -Original Message-
 From: Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 6:18 AM
 To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject:  WVDial segfaulting
 
   Hi Debian users,
   a friend of mine installed Debian 2.0 and tried to connect in
 Internet
 using pppconfig and doesnt suceed but with wvdial he can connect in Net
 but
 when he disconects wvdial segfaults and he has to reboot the computer.
   Any ideas? I think that he is using the last wvdial because he
 updates
 do Debian 2.1 later.
   Have a nice day,Paulo Henrique
 
 
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Apt, Dselect, and Dpkg. What's the different?

1999-03-09 Thread Tam Ma
Hi all,

I am new at Debian and I am kind confused about the Apt, Dselect, and Dpkg
programs. Slink was released earlier today and it has: 
Apt (part 1), the new backend to dselect
Apt (part 2), the new commandline
I know Apt will soon have a front end (Apt 3 for Potato) that will
replace Dselect but for now does Apt (part 1), the new backend, replaces
Dpkg program because Dpkg is also a backend to deselect? 

I am really confused about the relation of Apt, Dselect, and Dpkg. If
anyone has the time, please write back and tell what is the defferences
and relationship between these programs. If this question was asked
before, please tell me the date of it and I will look for it. 

Thanks alot, 

Tam


rc.local - What is the Debian Eqivalent

1999-03-09 Thread Person, Roderick
I have installed some tars and I need to set some thing to run at boot. For
example I need to have the followiung to line execute at boot.
/usr/X11R6/bin/xfstt --sync
/usr/X11R6/bin/xfstt

I used RH for a minute and these were placed in rc.local...I must confess I
forget the debian placement. What file do I place these in or can I just
make a bash script and and place a symlink to it in the appropriate rc#.d ?




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Re: portforwarding question

1999-03-09 Thread whbell
Anyone?
I will try one more post with these questions.
Thanks,
-Bill

 Hello again,
 
 I have a web site on my Debian box visible to the
 world.  Of course this is using xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:80.
 
 I also have an internal web site visible to the world
 using portforwarding xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:port.
 
 Question 1- Which port(s) should I forward to allow
 this visibility and not overrun my real web site already
 on port 80?
 
 Question 2- This internal site is a management tool for
 my bridge. I am not too worried about security on that
 site.  Does having a port opened exposes me to other
 site security issues?
 
 As always, Thanks for the great help on this list!
 
 -Bill
 


Re: New Install

1999-03-09 Thread ktb
If your prompt is a $ you are not logged in as root.  This is the regular user
prompt.  The prompt under root is #.  You should have a password for a user 
account
and one for signing in as root.  When you login type root and then your root
password and you will have permission to do anything.  Or from the user prompt 
type
su and then you will be asked the root password.  The prompt will change to 
#.
This will be adequate for most administrative tasks but for some you must login 
as
root as described above.
Hope that helps,
Kent

Joe wrote:

 I have installed Debian-Linux, after I boot, and the system asks for the
 login, I log in as root. the problem is I'm at a $prompt, I don't know
 what to do from their. I need to change /dev/mod.. to /dev/ttys... but
 the sys. says I do not have permission. Any help?

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Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-09 Thread steven walsh
On Tue, 9 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 steven walsh dixit:
  On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Wayne Topa wrote:
  [snip]
  
I agree Steve, there are plenty of Manual(s) to read.  But for a new
   IRC user they sure confusing.  I have been trying to Window it but, as
   of yet, no luck.
  
  Sure, there's plenty of documentation, unfortunately that's like
  saying MS Office has plenty of documentation.  It's a pain to sort through
  sometimes because there's just too many features in it.
 
 Steve, most of the docs you pointed out say next to nothing.  One may try to
 guess (as surely most bitchx users do) how to work things out, and that
 works some times, but not always.
 
 What really puts me off is the fact that, eg., /help say, will tell me how
 to show some fancy (but useless and annoying to others) way of echoing the
 typed characters on screen, and though other commands, probably more useful,
 there's no help available or almost none.
 

I get the impression you think I _like_ BitchX.  I assure you I do
not, nor do I believe the documentation is adequately provided.

As for EfNet #bitchx, well, let's just say that I'm not surprised
at their behavior. :)


See you on the flip side

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Re: New Install

1999-03-09 Thread Andrei Ivanov

 I have installed Debian-Linux, after I boot, and the system asks for the
 login, I log in as root. the problem is I'm at a $prompt, I don't know

Do 'whoami' and see who you are really logged on as. Why do you need to
change /dev/modX anyway? /dev/ttySX is a COM port. But if you really need
to, just make a link to /dev/modX and call it /dev/ttysX. Or whatever you
need. Same trick as you go around with modem setup sometimes with programs
that use /dev/modem, which is not initially installed in the system.

Andrew
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Partition problem: not urgent

1999-03-09 Thread Bernhard Dobbels
Hi,

I have some kind of a partition problem. It exists some months, but i could use
everyting whithout problems. The only thing i couldn't do is defrag my win-disk.
The problem has to do with ending/beginning of a partition

Output of cfdisk:

NameFlags   Part Type   FS Type [Label] Size 
(MB)

---
/dev/hda1   BootPrimary DOS FAT16 (big) [  ]300.24
/dev/hda2   BootPrimary Linux ext2  100.41
/dev/hda5   Logical DOS FAT16 (big) [WIN DATA   ]   1000.13
/dev/hda6   Logical Linux ext2  1250.16
/dev/hda7   Logical Linux ext2  498.10
/dev/hda8   Logical Linux ext2  3000.38
Pri/Log Free Space  0.50


This is my fdisk output:

Using /dev/hda as default device!

Command (m for help): p

Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 784 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot   BeginStart  End   Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *11   39   307408+   6  DOS 16-bit =32M
Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
 phys=(304, 31, 63) logical=(38, 69, 63)
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary:
 phys=(304, 31, 63) should be (304, 254, 63)
/dev/hda2   *  306   39   52   102816   83  Linux native
Partition 2 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
 phys=(305, 0, 1) logical=(38, 70, 1)
Partition 2 has different physical/logical endings:
 phys=(406, 31, 63) logical=(51, 18, 63)
Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary:
 phys=(406, 31, 63) should be (406, 254, 63)
/dev/hda4  408   52  784  58867205  Extended
Partition 4 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
 phys=(407, 0, 1) logical=(51, 19, 1)
Partition 4 has different physical/logical endings:
 phys=(1023, 31, 63) logical=(783, 238, 63)
Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary:
 phys=(1023, 31, 63) should be (1023, 254, 63)
/dev/hda5  408   52  179  1024096+   6  DOS 16-bit =32M
/dev/hda6 1024  179  338  1280128+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda7 1024  338  402   510016+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda8 1024  402  784  3072352+  83  Linux native


Any help. No winblows program can repair this, not even pm4. Maybe some
unix-tool may?

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Re: I can't believe this

1999-03-09 Thread Keith G. Murphy
George Bonser wrote:
 
 On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Jesse Evans wrote:
 
I feel that most of the press coverage of Linux has been tainted by 
  the
  commercial marketing efforts of certain distributions. If I were a writer 
  and
  had no knowledge of the subject matter of my current task, I would first 
  look
  to other media to see what gets the most play and work from there. If 
  Debian is
  to suceed in the Linux markeplace they need to increase their marketing
  influence, but I think that's not their real goal; they instead want to 
  create
  the best distribution available and hope that those who truly care will find
  their way through the Linux jungle.
 
 Which brings up a point I have oten pondered, if Red Hat's install is so
 great, why doesn't Debian just COPY it ... massage it a bit to make it use
 some different paths, etc, and THEN concentrate on IMPROVING it.  Their
 current method of trying to invent a better wheel from scratch seems to be
 a waste of resources. It appears to be a(nother) very egotistical stance
 on the part of the Debian developers.  Hell, just use the best thing that
 is out there, modify it to fit your needs, and then improve on it from
 there.  Otherwise they are always going to be trying to catch up and
 wasting resources.
 
 Maybe if Debian could identify the weak points in the distro, adopt better
 ways from other distros as an intermediate measure and then get them
 completely integrated as time goes by might allow much faster progress and
 a more useable distro in the meantime.
 
I agree somewhat, but...
I had done 3 or 4 RedHat installs until I encountered a certain old
machine at work (486/33, 2 SCSI controllers).  I could not get a RedHat
install (5.1 or 5.2) to work.  Period.  No way, no how.  Always started
swapping like crazy at a certain point, about the time I started
partitioning the disks.

Tried Debian for the hell of it, worked the first time, didn't find it
unduly difficult.

I guess what I'm saying is:

* I'm not sure the installation itself needs radical fixing.
* Please preserve robustness.
* Maybe we need to represent a clear alternative.
* Maybe RedHat has its priorities wrong (flash over functionality?).

On that last point, let me insert another bit of personal experience:

I was installing RedHat 5.1 on my machine at home, and got to the disk
partitioning stage.  I could not do what I needed to do from Disk
Druid.  The sequence of steps needed to partition a certain way was
simply not accessible from the (pseudo-)GUI.  So I used fdisk and could
do it without any problem.  What I'm saying there is that if you provide
a GUI, you better be willing to spend a *lot* of time thinking it out
and debugging it, because doing it right is a lot more complex than most
people realize.  (I know, I've written commercial software).  Otherwise,
you trap people instead of enabling them.

So far, I feel this way about these two major distributions:

* For a machine that I want to just play with a bunch of shit on, I'd
pick RedHat.  There's RPMs of everything under the sun out there; some
of them work great, some are shit; they all install and uninstall *real
fast*.  That's what I want for my home machine, especially since its
fast and has a lot of disk space, so I can store and run all that shit I
download.

* For a machine that needs to be ultra-consistent, dependable,
up-to-date, locked down, I'd pick Debian.  dselect and dpkg contribute
to most of those qualities.  That's what I want for any server that I
use for work, especially since it's likely to be some old weird 486,
where you *need* all those Debian installation floppies with all the
drivers.  (Hell, come to think of it, it might even be a m68k machine,
in which case RedHat wouldn't even be an alternative...)  The other
thing is that I know everything on the CD-ROM is free, and
free/contrib/non-free is clearly identified on the ftp sites; that's
important to know in a work setting -- nothing ideological about it at
all.

I wonder how the rest of you feel about this distinction I've made?


Re: lprng and slink

1999-03-09 Thread Gustavo Gonzalez
Yes, my problem would a bit more obscured by the fact of gs conflicts with
magicfilter. I am able to print plain text docs. However, HTML, ps and pdf 
formats
cannot be prited without serious errors. Thus I prefer to wait for the slink 
release
in CD. I am using now other distributions (OpenLinux 1.3, SuSE 6.0, Slackware 
3.6)
without any printing problem.
Regards,

Gustavo

Peter Ludwig wrote:

 You are absolutely wright! I just downgrade to hamm for the same problem.
 I could print in text mode only, but I think the problem was not due to 
 permission
 mistakes. Anyway I will stop the upgrade to slink to total defrozen.

  The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
  that has been posted to linux.debian.user as well.
 
  I just upgraded from hamm to slink.  I have found one problem with the
  upgrade in the lprng package.  I downgraded to the hamm version until
  such time as it gets fixed.  Basically after installing the new
  version, I could not print due to some time of permissions error.  I
  have the standard lpd.conf and lpd.perms files as defined by Debian.

 Just a question for both parties concerned here, did you remember to
 change your printer setup over to the new lp* format?

 Slink has removed lp0 and replaced it with lp1 (I believe that's the way
 it is), anyway I first off could not print under slink until I had a look
 at the new config file, and realised it had hosed my configuration for my
 printer, and also changed the printer port... but it's working great now
 that I've changed the printer port to the new settings.

 Actually I've just remembered, the new kernel version (2.2.1 is what I'm
 running) is the thing that changed the lp port... geez, have to remember
 these things else I'll be considered a fool... (though that isn't hard for
 people who have actually met me) grin.

 Regards,
 Peter Ludwig

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2 Official CDs...

1999-03-09 Thread Jay Barbee
What is contained on the 2 Official Debian Binary i386 CDs.

I was thinking that disc 2 would be all the KDE/Gnome and X stuff... but I
am not sure.

Anyone know how the CDs are laid out?

--Jay


Re: WVDial segfaulting

1999-03-09 Thread John Hasler
Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira writes:
 a friend of mine installed Debian 2.0 and tried to connect in Internet
 using pppconfig and doesnt suceed

What problem did he have with pppconfig?
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Re: rc.local - What is the Debian Eqivalent

1999-03-09 Thread ragOO
Person, Roderick wrote:

 I have installed some tars and I need to set some thing to run at boot.


The Debian equivalent of rc.local is rc.boot



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XDM again

1999-03-09 Thread Christian Dysthe
Hello Debian-user,

  I still have problems getting XDM to run. Starting X with startx
  works fine, but when I start XDM I get a minimal fvm desktop, not
  the setup I have in my .xinitrc file. I know I must be missing
  something obvious.

  Can anyone help?

  TIA


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Re: I can't believe this

1999-03-09 Thread Adam Linford - Prima House
On Tuesday 9 March, Kieth Murphy wrote

* I'm not sure the installation itself needs radical fixing.
* Please preserve robustness.
* Maybe we need to represent a clear alternative.
* Maybe RedHat has its priorities wrong (flash over functionality?).

I agree with these opinions, and moreover, I can possibly provide a useful
point of view in that I am a newbie to Linux, though not to computing.
Before leaping into Linux (as I desperately wanted to) I made sure I
read everything about Linux, and the major distributions first.  After
accumulating as much knowledge as I could, I decided that Debian was the one
for me.
I understood from my analysis that RH was more user friendly in
it's installation process than Debian, and was told many times to use RH
first time round, but the distributions stand for much more than their
software components.  The reason I went for Debian is because I agree with
the ideology behind it, as well as the more technical reasons.  I would have
used Debian even if the installation process was much harder.
I know that this is not the only reason as to why I chose Debian,
but I went through the install, Yeah, I had to do a bit of reading, but
Linux is, to me, about learning and functionality.  It's the reason I left
Winblows. 
The point I'm trying to make is that effort often returns
satisfaction and knowledge, which is why I'm here.  Debian is more than just
software, it's politics.

Adam


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