Experimental
Is there any way to incorporate the experimental's Packages file into DSelect (preferably through dpkg-ftp)? It keeps looking for experimental/binary-i386/Packages file, and I want it to look for experimetal/Packages file..is there a way? Thanks in advance, Tristan McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~trismcc/
Make errors
Just a user problem I'm sure but when I go to use the make command I get: make: makeinfo: Command not found make: Error 127 What am I doing wrong? Using gcc-2.7.2 and make-3.74. Thanks James Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gcc won't compile :-)
Hi Marcus -- You asked: Thanks everybody I didn't have the crt*.o in my lib directory. It should be in the libc-dev*.deb right? No, it should be in /usr/i486-linuxaout/lib. You can see what directory a file will be installed into by looking at the Contents file associated with the distribution you got. For example, if you got the buzz-fixed distribution, then you could use zgrep crt0.o buzz-fixed/Contents.gz to see that the crt0.o file is installed in /usr/i486-linuxaout/lib. Also another question how do I swich ELF compile to a.out compile? From the FAQ: To compile programs in the a.out binary format, install the Debian a.out developer's packages, which are libc4-dev aout-binutils aout-librl aout-gcc place the a.out tools ahead of the ELF tools in your path. That is, execute the command export PATH=/usr/i486-linuxaout/bin:$PATH (This isn't essential, just advantageous.) If you're only going to do this once, you could execute: PATH=/usr/i486-linuxaout/bin:$PATH make [target]. To execute a.out X clients, install the xcompat package. (As a result of your question, I reorganized the FAQ that dealt with this so folks would see the answer more easily.) HTH, Susan Kleinmann
Cross posting per request
Folks, These ideas are being posted here from net news per request. Response is desired (even if it's not Debian priority) 1) Long awaited cleaning out of /usr/lib. In addition, categorizing what is left into subdirectories. A reasonable setup would be: /usr/lib/elf -- elf shared libs /usr/lib/aout -- a.out shared libs /usr/lib/elf/static -- for static elf libs /usr/lib/aout/static -- for static a.out libs Other development packages could retain their own /usr/lib subdirectories or more preferably build mini etc lib bin trees in /usr/package name, /ap/package name, /usr/X11R6/X package name directory. Such as: /usr/lib/elf/SVGA or /usr/SVGA/lib Things like /usr/lib/perl, /usr/lib/terminfo, etc. need to be moved back to /usr or /ap were it makes more sense. What are the advantages this? If someone chooses not to install development type packages then their lib directories are not cluttered with libraries that make the directory long and unmanagable. It great reduces confusion on the part of users and possibly developer as to what libraries are where. 2) Figuring out whether /usr/local is really being used properly (which in my reading of FSSTND it isn't) If /usr/local is really for local configuration then it shouldn't be in /usr. /usr would typically be read-only mounted to a server in the cases where /usr/local would be used. You cannot mount on read-only partitions. The person maintaining the system would just end up making /usr/local a symbolic link. On a debian system I am looking at has a /usr/local/lib/emacs which I consider to be stranded. The system is not a complete installation so there is no telling what other things are placed in /usr/local. A reasonable solution to this is to move /usr/local to / I would create 2 directories in /local: /local/bin /local/etc /local/bin would be placed in the path and would represent binaries that would search before /usr/bin for binaries. /local/etc would be configuration files typically found /etc. The person maintaining the server would put symbolic links into /local/etc in /etc if they need it to be a local configuration. 3) Server and client installation distinctions. Possible avenue for easy minimal setup of X clients. A person installing a Linux system should have the option of choosing where they want the local machine to be the server or use a remote server. There are still people out there who want to make use of machine with 4 megs of ram. Running an X client on a 386 with 4 megs of ram and a resonable video arrangement is not a bad thing and may be cost effective in some environments. 4) Allowing controls of how many X sessions can be lauched would be reasonable as well. X has the seemingly unknown feature of running numerous client/servers. By adding :1, :2, etc as server arguments, you can launch multiple X session possible on different servers from the same console. This is extremely powerful to say the least. It would be a bonus to be able to have a system admin control how many X sessions are being launched at one console. This would require a small adjustment in startx. In addition, it should not be required that the user keep track of :1, :2, :3. This is another adjustment that would be made in startx. 5) If a startup shell script for window managers should also be easy to add. I think that the user should have the possibility of specifying the window manager at the startx prompt such as: startx fvwm startx openwin startx fvwm-95 And have resonable assurances that it will work. An additional bonus to this would be allowing root to setup a simple table to map the names to various shell scripts that would start the window managers. This would allow for practically all contingencies and complexities in getting that window manager started. This would also allow the package maintainer to move the main window manager binaries out of the path and out of harms way. 6) The wisdom of put the contents of /etc/X11/xdm and /etc/X11/xinit where they are needs to be re-evaluated. Most of the files in these directories are shell scripts not configuration files. 7) The configuration programs for /etc/printcap and the user maintaince utilities from Redhat need to be lifted :)
Sendmail and Masquerading
Dear all, I have noticed a small oddity with my addressing in sendmail. All seemed to work really well with pop clients connecting to my Debian 1.1 box, but if I use elm or plain mail my From: line is not correct. I (think I) have set up sendmail to masquerade as avondel.xs4all.nl. My .mc file looks like this: divert(0) VERSIONID(`@(#)sendmail.mc 8.7 (Linux) 3/5/96') OSTYPE(debian)dnl FEATURE(nocanonify)dnl FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl FEATURE(use_cw_file)dnl FEATURE(use_ct_file)dnl FEATURE(nodns)dnl define(`confTO_QUEUEWARN', `1d')dnl MAILER(local)dnl MAILER(smtp)dnl Cwavondel.xs4all.nl MASQUERADE_AS(avondel.xs4all.nl)dnl ## Custom configurations below (will be preserved) MAILER(uucp)dnl define(`UUCP_MAX_SIZE', 0) define(`SMART_HOST', uucp-dom:xs4all) And if I send mail from root using elm, the header comes out like: X-POP3-Rcpt: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: sun4nl!souterrain.avondel!root Received: from sun4nl.UUCP ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by nlauc01.ncm.nl (8.6.11/8.6.9) with UUCP id QAA18505 for ncm.nl!eme; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 16:12:37 +0200 Received: from magigimmix.xs4all.nl by sun4nl.NL.net with SMTP id AA03252 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Sun, 1 Sep 1996 16:13:43 +0200 Received: from asterix.xs4all.nl (asterix.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.11]) by magigimmix.xs4all.nl (8.7.5/XS4ALL) with ESMTP id QAA25876 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 16:13:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from souterrain.avondel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by asterix.xs4all.nl (8.7.5/8.7.2) with UUCP id QAA09967 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 16:03:01 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by souterrain.avondel (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA11142 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 14:03:08 +0200 From: root [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Meel van elm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 14:03:07 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Both the From: line and the Return-Path: are incorrect. That is, my linux-box is indeed called souterrain and my local domain is avondel, but I would like to masquerade as avondel.xs4all.nl Any hints are greatly appreciated! Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Erik van der Meulen e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +31 20 685 1618 f: +31 20 689 6569
RE: /dev/audio /dev/dsp Device or resource busy ???
Ian Jackson wrote: Stoyan Kenderov writes (/dev/audio /dev/dsp Device or resource busy ???): ... The sparing comments in the source point to an IRQ or DMA conflict when one gets constant Device or Resource busy mesages on each: cat blabla.au /dev/audioor cat uuhuu.wav /dev/dsp Have you installed `nas' (the `network audio system') ? It takes over your sound hardware permanently. If you have then deinstall it. Ian. I've read Stoyan's reply, so I know that this fixed the problem. However, I don't think you need to uninstall NAS. Besides, you'll need it to run NAS-aware programs. Surely you can simply say: /etc/init.d/nas stop or whatever the name is (don't have access to the machine right now). Stoyan, I suggest you reinstall NAS and try this. Casper Boden-Cummins.
Re: Sendmail and Masquerading
Erik van der Meulen wrote : And if I send mail from root using elm, the header comes out like: root and/or postmaster are TRUSTED users. So the masquerade doesn't apply to this users, and all users defined in the trusted-user file. In the sendmail.cf : # class L: names that should be delivered locally, even if we have a relay # class E: names that should be exposed as from this host, even if we # masquerade # class M: domains that should be converted to $M #CL root CE root In the doc : op.txt: trusted users from a file use Ft/file/name. and : confCT_FILE Ft class[/etc/sendmail.ct] Name of file used to get the local additions to the $=t (trusted users) class. confTRUSTED_USERS Ct class[no default] Names of users to add to the list of trusted users. This list always includes root, uucp, and daemon. See also FEATURE(use_ct_file). So don't post from root :) But in the aliases file add : root: real user -- François Ranchin Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic Arthur C. Clarke, The Lost Worlds of 2001
help on configuring ether card (fwd)
Hi all I am trying to configure an ethernet card 3Com09 in a linux machine. I already set up the IP adress and so on... during boot I got the following error messages: SIOCSIFADDR: no such device SIOCSIFNETMASK: no such device SIOCSIFBRDADDR: no such device route: netmask doesn't match route adress could anyone tell me what does this means? thanks in advance miguel
Re: Debian Color-ls Command?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 31 Aug 1996, Chris Westwood wrote: [SNIP] *** Excerpt from .bash_profile *** [SNIP SNIP] Hi. If the above works on your system, then you are running fileutils-3.12 and my color-ls package which is obsolete as of fileutils-3.13. When you do upgrade to fileutils-3.13, you will need to do something different along the lines of my previous posting. Anyway, I'm glad you have it working. Syrus. -- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. Hi Syrus, Yes, I just checked with dpkg and it reports fileutils 3.12-4, so that explains that. The latest version you mentioned (3.13) doesn't appear to be on the Debian ftp mirror I'm using, so I'll hang fire for a while. Right now everything's working great, so if it ain't broke... but I've filed your messages for when I do eventually upgrade. Many thanks for your help. Cheers, Chris
Two Packages Missing
1. The package taper recommends ftape. No such package is available in debian. Is it needed? 2. A lot of packages (e.g. magicfilter) recommend pbmlus which isn't available as a debian package too. Doesn't it make sense to add those two packages to debian? == Hubert Palme Bergische Universitaet-Gesamthochschule Wuppertal Computing Center D-42097 Wuppertal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Germany) http://www.uni-wuppertal.de/hrz/daten/adressen/h.palme.html
need libbsd.so.1.0.0
The current implementation of postgres95 for Debian requires libbsd.so.1.0.0, but the libc5 package includes only libbsd.a. (How) can I make libbsd.so.1.0.0 from the .a file? (Sorry to be asking what I imagine is such a naive question.) Thanks in advance, Susan Kleinmann
xdm (fwd)
Forwarded message: From mtorr Mon Sep 2 09:20:21 1996 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: mtorr (Miro Torrielli) Subject: xdm To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:20:15 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length:138 Does anyone know how to set up environment variables with xdm? The displayManager*exportList resource does not seem to work. Thanx... :-)
Re: Two Packages Missing
On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, Hubert Palme wrote: 1. The package taper recommends ftape. No such package is available in debian. Is it needed? Both of these packages are obsolete. The ftape utility was integrated into the kernel a long time ago. 2. A lot of packages (e.g. magicfilter) recommend pbmlus which isn't available as a debian package too. pbmplus was replaced by netpbm. Guy
Re: Two Packages Missing
On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, Guy Maor wrote: On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, Hubert Palme wrote: 1. The package taper recommends ftape. No such package is available in debian. Is it needed? Both of these packages are obsolete. The ftape utility was integrated into the kernel a long time ago. I taper no longer supported or is there an updated package that includes it? I kind of liked it. 2. A lot of packages (e.g. magicfilter) recommend pbmlus which isn't available as a debian package too. pbmplus was replaced by netpbm. Guy Thanks Richard G. Roberto [EMAIL PROTECTED] 201-739-2886 - whippany, nj -- *** Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. ***
Re: Two Packages Missing
Richard I taper no longer supported or is there an updated package that Richard includes it? I kind of liked it. It is orphaned. If you really like taper, you could maintain it. There have been new upstream releases. :-) As for tape backups, we have tob which most people who tried it seem to be rather happy with, your's truly included. -- Dirk Eddelbuttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd
Re: Cross posting per request
Glenn Bily writes: - 1) Long awaited cleaning out of /usr/lib. In addition, categorizing - what is left into subdirectories. This has a number of problems, namely: 1) Would require changes to binutils for linux that don't have to happen on other systems. Too much work for too little gain. 2) violates the FSSTND 3) violates what most experienced UNIX users would expect - Other development packages could retain their own /usr/lib - subdirectories or more preferably build mini etc lib bin trees in - /usr/package name, /ap/package name, /usr/X11R6/X package name - directory. Such as: I'm sure you mean /opt, not /ap :). /opt/package, if a program uses it, gets all the config files for that package installed under it. It's a SysV.4 thing, but a draft exists for using it under Linux. - Things like /usr/lib/perl, /usr/lib/terminfo, etc. need to be moved back - to /usr or /ap were it makes more sense. Except for the fact that this is nonstandard and likely to make it harder for people to go out, get a package, and compile it and drop it in, since it makes Linux non-compatible with every other UNIX system in existence. - What are the advantages this? - - If someone chooses not to install development type packages then their - lib directories are not cluttered with libraries that make the directory - long and unmanagable. One person's long and unmanagable is another's easy-to-find :) Besides, how is the dynamic loader supposed to find shared libs if we scatter them all over creation? - It great reduces confusion on the part of users and possibly developer - as to what libraries are where. Only people who have never used any other UNIX system. I'm willing to bet that most linux users either already have some UNIX experience or are trying to become familiar with UNIX. No need to confuse people by being rather gratuitously different from other UNIXes. - 2) Figuring out whether /usr/local is really being used properly (which - in my reading of FSSTND it isn't) - If /usr/local is really for local configuration then it shouldn't be in - /usr. /usr would typically be read-only mounted to a server in the cases - where /usr/local would be used. You cannot mount on read-only - partitions. I think you're misunderstanding here... /usr/local is for local use. In other words, /usr/local is where you put all the programs that you download and compile yourself. They should probably be using config files in /etc and runtime files in /var if necessary. local configuration just means that it's up to the machine's sysadmin as to how they want to set up and use /usr/local. - 5) If a startup shell script for window managers should also be easy to - add. - - I think that the user should have the possibility of specifying the - window manager at the startx prompt such as: - - startx fvwm - startx openwin - startx fvwm-95 - This is what user configuration files are for. If you want a different window manager , it's fairly easy to set up a .xsession and have startx use it. - 6) The wisdom of put the contents of /etc/X11/xdm and /etc/X11/xinit - where they are needs to be re-evaluated. - Most of the files in these directories are shell scripts not - configuration files. Actually, they kind of walk the fine line between configuration files and shell scripts, since they are what you edit to configure X to do what you want. So they're probably OK there, especially since if they get put in /usr, they get a lot harder to configure if, as you suggest, /usr is read only :) - 7) The configuration programs for /etc/printcap and the user maintaince - utilities from Redhat need to be lifted :) Don't know what you mean by user maintenance, but a printer configuration utility would definitely be a good thing. Who wants to write it? :) -Larry -- Larry Daffner| Linux: Unleash the workstation in your PC! [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://web2.airmail.net/vizzie/ The great tragedy of science, the slaying of a beautiful theory by an ugly fact. --Thomas Henry Huxley
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Re: Two Packages Missing
On Mon, 2 Sep 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Richard I taper no longer supported or is there an updated package that
Richard includes it? I kind of liked it.
It is orphaned. If you really like taper, you could maintain it. There have
been new upstream releases. :-)
As for tape backups, we have tob which most people who tried it seem to
be rather happy with, your's truly included.
I'm a fan of taper myself. I'll take over maintaining it, ok? Didn't
realize it was orphaned or I would have done that sooner.
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Babel 3.6-4 (from ftp.lh.umu.se unstable section)
I've had problems concerning babel 3.6-4. When I try to install it through dselect, I get following problems with it: Setting up babel (3.6-4) ... Building new format(s) with babel support using install-fmt-base(8) Rebuilding `latex' format ... done Rebuilding `tex' format ... kpathsea: Running MakeTeXTFM manfnt.tfm Running MakeTeXPK manfnt.tfm mf \mode:=nullmode; mag:=1; scrollmode; input manfnt \/dev/null This is METAFONT, Version 2.71 (C version 6.1) kpathsea: Running MakeTeXMF manfnt.mf I don't know how to generate manfnt.mf! ! I can't find file `manfnt.mf'. * ...=nullmode; mag:=1; scrollmode; input manfnt Please type another input file name: ! Emergency stop. * ...=nullmode; mag:=1; scrollmode; input manfnt Transcript written on mfput.log. Metafont failed for some reason on manfnt.tfm kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log. If I let it run without interruption, it will create nice swapping and also fill my filesystem with one of its logs. strace shows that it definately goes into endless loop. Any advises how to get around it ? (gzip -dc Contents.gz | grep manfnt.mf didn't produce anything as its output) As some other issues, it seems that you need to have at least one *deb file in binary, non-free/binary and contrib/binary directories or dselect stops. This happens even if I haven't selected any files from those directories (the whole issue came up, because I have to download stuff to my own disk first and install it from that, since I doubt if dpkg's own ftp supports ftp gateways (even ncftp needs nowdays patching for it :(). I guess thats all for now... -- Juha 'Ylis' Ylitalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] work e-mail Hiomo 5/1/Maisema http://sam.ntc.nokia.com/~jylitalo work www +358 0 511 23313http://www.helsinki.fi/~jylitalopublic www True friendship is never serene. - Marie de Rabutin-Chantal
Re: Two Packages Missing
On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, Joey Hess wrote: I'm a fan of taper myself. I'll take over maintaining it, ok? Didn't realize it was orphaned or I would have done that sooner. Yea, I've been waiting for the 6.7.4 release (it fixes some problems us m68kers have). Thanks, Leland __ Y_ a_ m_ b_ o_ | The leanest, meanest, fightinest sweet tater on Earth! oo o oo o o | o o o | [EMAIL PROTECTED] o ooo o | -- -- -- -- -- -- | http://www.millcomm.com/~llucius (maybe one day)
popclient, procmail, and elm
I seem to be having problems with using popclient, procmail and elm together. I've set up popclient and procmail correctly, filtering messages well. Elm can read folders produced locally by cron, etc.. However, folders created by popclient + procmail cannot be read by elm. I get folder corrupt, and upon further investigation, the message's initial from line is missing! Why??? Please enlighten me ;-)
socks and maple on debian/2.0.x (2 questions)
I am in the process of switching from ancient a.out/Linux 1.2.13 to debian/Linux 2.0.x Two questions (1) I have been using (under license through the university) maple on Linux. maple/xmaple for Linux has been running fine on my old a.out/Linux 1.2.13 distribution. maple seems to be fine on debian/Linux 2.0.x but xmaple complains about libXt.so.3 and libX11.so.3 being missing. I tried copying over the a.out libXt.so.3 and libX11.so.3 which I have on my old 1.2.13 ditribution, but I get segmentation faults when I try to run xmaple. Would anyone know if this can be fixed? (Possibly with elf versions of libXt.so.3 and libX11.so.3?) (2) I have been using socks-4.2 both in server and client mode under my a.out/Linux 1.2.13 setup. I looked, but there is no socks debian package. Can debian/Linux 2.0.x be a socks server? Thanks in advance. - Allen
