libpaper?

1996-10-09 Thread David C. Winters

I was having some problems with procmail and the new lists' headers (which
appear to be ironed out), so I haven't been able to see much of the content
of the list for a little while--so I'm apologizing if this has been
mentioned already.

The gs and ghostscript packages depend on the libpaper package, which is
currently listed as unavailable.  Is there a problem with it, or is it
somewhere other than in stable, non-free, or contrib?

Thanks.


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Re: Ctrl-Alt-Del doesn't work under X?

1996-10-09 Thread Thomas Baetzler
Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote:
 
  From: Arrigo Triulzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Hello,
  
   sorry for writing to you direct but this is urgent: it seems
   that under the Debian X11 installation it is impossible to reboot
   the machine at the Xlogin prompt under xdm. 

 Hi.  It may not be possible to do this, but here is a way to work
 around the problem:
 
 From the xlogin prompt, you can switch to a virtual console by 
 C-A-F2 (or C-A-F3, etc.).  From a console login prompt, C-A-DEL 
 works.  All you have to do is make sure you have not disallowed 
 this in your X configuration.

The way we have handled this at a customer installation is that
we created a user shutdown who was privileded to run shutdown.

HTH,
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Re: Can't do setuid

1996-10-09 Thread Buddha Buck
 I need the ability to run my dialing script as root since the script
 makes hostname, domainname, and /etc/resolv changes.  
 
 It appears that Debian Linux does not have setuid capability.  Is this a
 feature that I can turn on through a configuration file?

No.  There is no way to turn on the ability to have setuid scripts.

There are severe potential security problems associated with setuid 
scripts.  As such, the capability is explicitly -not- allowed in the 
Linux kernel.

Setuid program, however, are a very useful tool.  Su, for instance, 
-must- be setuid root to do its job.  It isn't a script, however.

There are several ways to do the same job.  One of the most common is 
to write a small setuid C program that calls the script for you.

 
 Do all Linux distributions (Slackware, Redhat, etc) have this
 restriction?  Which distributions allow suid?

No linux distribution allows it.  It is inherent in the kernel.
 
 Where does the restriction take place (the kernel or an executable
 file)?

The kernel.

 
 Suid programs work on Sun Unix, but it don't seem to work here:
 
-rws--x--x   1 root users1413 Oct  8 14:18 dial-att
 
 dial-att
Can't do setuid
 
 At present I have to su to root in order to dial.  This is an
 inconvenience and will not work for other user accounts.  I am aware of
 the programs available that perform the equivalent of setuid but the
 issue here is why isn't the setuid function implemented (apparantly)?



 
 Jim
 
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Re: Debian hangs during install

1996-10-09 Thread Daniel Stringfield
On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, John McLaren wrote:

 Help Needed!
 
 After looking around for a 486 to dedicate to linux, a 5-year-old
 ex-bleeding-edge server became available cheaply, containing an
 EISA mb and Ultrastor 22CA EISA ESDI cacheing controller running
 two Micropolis drives--seemed like a good buy at the time
 (performs flawlessly on dos/windows).
 
 I turned off cacheing and shadowing and started to load the latest
 Debian boot/root disks.  All seemed to go as per the book--hard
 drive/controller identified ok etc--until it found 1 scsi host,
 identified as an Ultrastor 24F.  Not surprisingly, it could get no
 response, eventually tried to reset it, and hung at:
US14F: reset: called
 
 Is there some simple command or parameter to give at the boot:
 prompt which will stop the program looking for scsi hardware?  All
 I could find in help files were suggestions for what to do if your
 installed scsi card wasn't found--not the other way 'round!

I believe you can specify a non-existant address, and it won't see it.
Just specify it like to something to an address that you KNOW is not
used!!!

I had a similiar problem with my sbpcd YEARS ago, when I tried YGGSDRASIL
Linux.  I threw that CD away the next day, BTW :)

Daniel
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Re: time problems (forwarded)

1996-10-09 Thread Andy Guy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes:

 Kevin is one of two people who are currently _still_ unable to post, so
 I am forwarding his message. :-(
 
 From: Account for Debian group  mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I use a program call nist - timestanderization under Linux by Frank
 Brokken.  This program works well for maintaining the clocks on my
 systems.  The program gets the time information from a standard on the
 Internet and and updates the system time.  Then you run the clock -w
 command to update the CMOS clock.
 
 This has worked fine on all my systems until I tried to run it on the new
 Debian box I just put together.  When it updates the CMOS clock it sets
 the year to somewhere in the 21st century and the rest of the time
 information is all screwed up as well.  What needs to change to make this
 utility work properly?

I am using nist v1.02 with debian, kernel 2.0.21 (compiled myself)
with no problems.  Note: there have been problems with clock recently.

Andy.

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Re: Any Linux books that focus on Debian?

1996-10-09 Thread Ed Donovan
CoB SysAdmin (Joe Emenaker) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 I'm interested in getting a book on adminstering Linux systems, but just
 about *every* book I look at focuses on Slackware. *Blech!*.
 
 Are there any books that focus on Debian?

Well, perhaps partially, and soon :-)  This was on c.o.l.announce not
long ago; I meant to bring it up then.  I was really pleased to hear it:


   At Matt Welsh's request, Specialized Systems Consultants has taken over
   the maintenance of Matt's book Linux Installation  Getting Started.

   This book can be found on the web at
   http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/LDP/gs/gs.html

   It can also be accessed through SSC's Linux Resources Page,
   http://www.ssc.com/linux/ under The Linux Documentation Project.

   Linux Installation and Getting Started is an installation and new-user
   guide for the Linux system, meant for Unix novices and Gurus alike. It
   contains information on how to obtain Linux, installation of the
   software, a beginning tutorial for new Unix users, and an introduction
   to system administration. It is meant to be general enough to be
   applicable to any distribution of the Linux software.

   Currently, SSC is working on a new installation chapter just for the
   Debian Linux release, and has plans to do chapters related to each of
   the major distributions.

   If you have any suggestions or corrections pertaining to this book,
   please send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


(There's nothing Debian-specific in those versions on the web yet.)
Does anyone on the list happen to know more about this; anyone working
with them yet?

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Re: Xterm and TERMCAP

1996-10-09 Thread John E. Davis
On Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:43:36 +0100, Casper BodenCummins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 : TERMCAP=co#80:li#24:
 : 
 : I use Jed editor and if I want to edit file the Terminal not powerful
 : enough 
 : for SLang. message appears. When TERMCAP is unset Jed works OK.
 : 
 : TERMCAP can be set to either the name of a termcap file (a file
 : containing termcap definitions for many terminals), or a literal
 : definition for a single terminal. In your case, TERMCAP is defined for
 : very nearly the dumbest possible terminal definition.

It is my understanding that the problem is caused by xterm itself.
Since many people have pointed out this xterm flaw to me, I have made
changes to slang 0.99-35 such that it will ignore TERMCAP if TERM is
xterm.
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Re: SECURE?? [Re: Ctrl-Alt-Del doesn't work under X? ]

1996-10-09 Thread Philippe Troin

On Tue, 08 Oct 1996 16:02:09 CDT Lukas Nellen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
u.unam.mx) wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  Here comes a small tcl/tk script which will appear under the xdm screen and 
  give the opportunity to halt, reboot or go to a console session (ie kill 
  xdm).
 
 As far as I understand TCL/Tk, those script give everybody with access to the 
 screen immediate root access. As far as I can tell, tkmgr doesn't terminate 
 when the user logs on. 

No because tkmgr is killed by the Xstartup_0 script.
I'm not sure it's 100% safe, but it should be safe enough...
Actually, I don't see breaches in this :-)

Phil.


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dpkg documentation on paper?

1996-10-09 Thread Christian Lynbech
As far as I can tell, dpkg 1.4.0.1 is shipped exclusively with .html
versions of the docs.

But I would really prefer to get it out on paper. Am I missing
something obvious, or do I need to grab the source to the sgml files
and work from there?


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Debian with 4 MB?

1996-10-09 Thread Dr.-Ing. Andreas Wehler
 Did somebody find an easy way to install Debian on 4 MB?  We
want use a cluster of 10 old PCs that way.  After boot/root
ths swap space has to be partitioned by hand and activated by
the 2nd VC, and other problems follow, for the ramdisk steels
too much of the valuable memory.  (No, these old boxes should
get no memory upgrade).
 Is it possible to put all of the ramdisk into a separate
partition and reboot from HD?

 Thanks,
 Andreas.

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Re: dpkg documentation on paper?

1996-10-09 Thread Guy Maor
On Wed, 9 Oct 1996, Christian Lynbech wrote:

 As far as I can tell, dpkg 1.4.0.1 is shipped exclusively with .html
 versions of the docs.
 
 But I would really prefer to get it out on paper. Am I missing
 something obvious, or do I need to grab the source to the sgml files
 and work from there?

/debian/doc/package-developer/{policy,programmer}.ps.gz on an ftp
mirror.


Guy

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Re: argh, NIS!

1996-10-09 Thread Swen Thuemmler
On 26 Sep 1996, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:

 Nope, that doesn't work. I replaced ypbind-2.99 with a hacked version
 of the BSD ypbind. The Linux ypbind-2.99 tends
 to die when it wants to switch servers, which is a problem if you
 have more then one NIS server and the one you're currently listening
 goes down.

I've just released ypbind-3.0, and I'd be interested in bugreports of this
version. There were some small quirks in 2.99beta, but it should not have
died...

Greetings, Swen


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Re: Ctrl-Alt-Del doesn't work under X?

1996-10-09 Thread Arrigo Triulzi
Hello Thomas,

Thomas Baetzler scripsit:
|The way we have handled this at a customer installation is that
|we created a user shutdown who was privileded to run shutdown.

You are not the only one to suggest this... the problem with this is
that it is highly insecure (well, you might say so is C-A-Del from the
keyboard, but this implies access to a card-controlled, monitored
room in our case), people can reboot from all over the net. And our
machines are teaching PCs, i.e. connected to the net.

At the moment two solutions look very promising, both the Tcl/Tk
script and, IMHO better, Miquel's modified xdm startup. This would
mean that, if I can modify the Xlogin keymaps, the kids will find
themselves using the familiar combination (very familiar since they
use Windoze...).

Ciao,

Arrigo

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Re: Kernel Installation Issues

1996-10-09 Thread Arrigo Triulzi
Jim Worthington scripsit:
|1)Boot Message - I get the following message when booting:
|
|
|Oct  8 17:10:10 hercules syslogd 1.3-0#6: restart.
|Oct  8 17:10:11 hercules kernel: Cannot find map file.
|
|What is a map file?  

Map of kernel symbols (= functions and external variables)

|Where is it supposed to be?

/usr/src/linux/System.map
/boot/System.map
/System.map

(any of the three, if more than one they'd better be the same...)

|How do I get rid of the message?

Under debian you should already have /System.map, a symlink to
/boot/System.map-2.0.x (x = kernel minor, whatever that is in your
case).

|2) Where is the /boot/psdatabase file used?

ps w

which shows the channels, i.e. the kernel function the code is in.

|I manually installed a new kernel (no debian package) and need to know
|if it was done correctly.  After compiling the 2.0.13 pnp patched
|kernel, I did the following:
|
|a) cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zimage /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.13-pnp
|
|b) cp /usr/src/linux/System.map /boot/System.map-2.0.13-pnp
|
|c) I then re-linked /vmlinuz and /System.map to point to the newly added
|files in /boot.  I then ran lilo and rebooted.  
|
|It's working, but there are some loose ends that I am concerned about.  
|I've had the cannot find map file message since day 1, so it's not
|related to installing the new kernel.

See the links above, you need the /System.map to be correctly linked
too.

|The /boot/psdatabase file is linked to /boot/psdatabase-2.0.0.  I
|couldn't find any corresponding files in the newly compiled kernel
|directory structure.  It would seem that I should have a
|psdatabase-2.0.13-pnp as well.

Just do

rm /boot/psdatabase
psupdate
ln -s /boot/psdatabase-2.0.13-pnp /boot/psdatabase

Ciao,

Arrigo

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Xaw95 1.1 installation pb

1996-10-09 Thread Hugo HAAS
Hi.

I've installed the X Athena Widgets 95 v1.1 library with a debian package,
but it hasn't changed anything. I've verified the links and my ld.so.conf,
and everything seems to be right :

/usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw95:
libXaw.so.6 = libXaw.so.6.0
/usr/X11R6/lib:
libXaw.so.6 = libXaw.so.6.1

Moreover, my Xresources has nothing special.
I'm running fvwm95-2.42a (debian-package) and XFree86-3.1.2G.

Does anybody know where the problem is ?

Thanks.

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Re: syslogd won't start

1996-10-09 Thread Michael Karafotis

I was having the same problem.  What you need to do is a 'uname -a' from
that get your hostname and make sure there is an entry in the /etc/hosts
file for both that hostname and the hostname.domainname, if you are using
dynamic ip w/ ppp just set your hostname to 127.0.0.1.

-Michael

On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Joey Hess wrote:

 I'm having a problem with the sysklogd package. Sometimes when I boot up,
 it says it's starting syslogd, waits there for about a minute (much longer
 than usual), and then continues on to start klogd. It looks like syslogd
 isn't really starting when it delays this way, or it is dying after it
 starts up. 
 
 Also, if I have this problem with starting syslogd, I can't seem to get a
 ppp connection up. Pppd never sends anything out to my modem when I start
 it, as far as I can tell. 
 
 SOmetime when I boot up, syslogd starts up quickly and ppp works with no
 problems. I don't know what's going on.. This all started a few days back
 when I upgraded to sysklogd 1.3-11 and ppp 2.2.0f-6. I'm using the 2.0.21
 kernel.
 
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Re: libpaper?

1996-10-09 Thread Arrigo Triulzi
David C. Winters scripsit:
|The gs and ghostscript packages depend on the libpaper package, which is
|currently listed as unavailable.  Is there a problem with it, or is it
|somewhere other than in stable, non-free, or contrib?

You can find it in the unstable tree (at least, here on the UK mirror
it hasn't migrated).

Arrigo

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The X story so far...

1996-10-09 Thread Chris R. Martin

First of all, thanks to all who had comments, suggestions about my X
setup!

I have gotten X to run. It turns out that in /etc/X11/XF86Config the mouse
was setup as /dev/mouse when in fact I have no such device. I changed
this line to /dev/cua0.

I can start X by using xinit -- xdm STILL does NOTHING. At bootup, xdm
runs, but there are NO consoles running X (C-A-F1 through C-A-F6 give me
other text consoles, and C-A-F7 through C-A-F12 do NOTHING). ps shows
getty running on consoles 1-6.

I've never used xdm before so I don't really know much about it. I can
kill the original xdm and type xdm again but this does nothing.

What sort of things should I be looking for? What configuration files
should I be looking at?

Thanks for all your help.
Chris.

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Xdm just displays console

1996-10-09 Thread Chris Huddleston
Hello,

I have been using XFree86 for the last week or so. Yesterday I left my desk
for about 15 minutes to help another user with a problem and when I had come
back, I found 'gnuchess' running. I terminated the program and afterwards I
can't get 
xdm to work properly. (next time I'll be sure to lock my session)

The problem is that when I run xdm command I get a login screen as normal.
After I log in, all that is shown is the console which displays

 Oct 9 07:14:01 info2 rnews: cant open_remote Connection refused
 Oct 9 07:28:36 info2 kernel: PS/2 auxiliary pointing device detected --
driver installed.

There are no xterm windows. If I click on the mouse buttons the window
manager menus don't appear. Basically all that I get is the console and the
grey background colour.

When I run the 'startx' command everything runs fine. I can customize xterm
windows, use the window manager and run the applications such as xload,
xclock etc.

I am wondering if someone can tell me why this is occuring. Below is the
contents of the xdm-config file. I have checked the .xsession-errors file
and no errors are reported and the XF86Config file is unchanged.

Thanks in advance,
Tej



The following is the xdm-config file contents 

! $XConsortium: xdm-conf.cpp,v1.2 93/09/28 14:30:32 gildea Exp $
DisplayManager.authDir: /var/lib/xdm
DisplayManager.errorLogFile:/var/log/xdm-errors
DisplayManager.pidFile: /var/run/xdm-keys
DisplayManager.keyFile: /etc/x11/xdm/xdm-keys
DisplayManager.servers: /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers
DisplayManager.accessFile:  /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
DisplayManager._0.authorize:true
DisplayManager._0.resources:/etc/X11/xdm/Xresources_0
DisplayManager._0.setup:/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0
DisplayManager._0.startup:  /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup_0
DisplayManager._0.reset:/etc/X11/xdm/Xreset_0
DisplayManager*resources:   /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources
DisplayManager*setup:   /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup
DisplayManager*startup: /ect/X11/xdm/Xstartup
DisplayManager*reset:   /etc/X11/xdm/Xreset
DisplayManager*session: /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession
DisplayManager*userPath:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/
X11:usr/games
DisplayManager*systemPath:  /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/
sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:usr/bin/X11
DisplayManager*authComplain:true
   

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manipulating the From header with smail + elm

1996-10-09 Thread Marcel Burggraeve
My systemname is debian but my provider has another ( offcourse ;-)
When I post mail to someone via my provider I want my From header
looking like : [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of graeve or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've read all about smail and elm ( I think ) but cannot find a
solution.
When I send mail to someone and they want to reply, they are replying
to graeve ( which was ok if it was local ) but it should be
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
How do I achieve this ?


Carved upon my stone, my body lie but still I roam
From Metallica ( anywhere I roam )
Marcel Burggraeve ( aka Pearl_Jam on irc )
http://www.cistron.nl/~graeve

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perl4?

1996-10-09 Thread Zachary DeAquila

does anyone ahve an old debian perl 4 package lying around?  
I need one for compatability reasons... 
and, what are the possible ramifications of trying to install
it when I have perl5 already installed?

 --Zachary

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Re: The X story so far...

1996-10-09 Thread mike
On Wed, 9 Oct 1996, Chris R. Martin wrote:

 I've never used xdm before so I don't really know much about it. I can
 kill the original xdm and type xdm again but this does nothing.
 
 What sort of things should I be looking for? What configuration files
 should I be looking at?
Strange that X would work but XDM wouldn't check out the file
'/var/log/xdm-errors' after a boot.  It should give you some insight as to
how/why it died.

mike...

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Re: The X story so far...

1996-10-09 Thread Joey Hess
 I can start X by using xinit -- xdm STILL does NOTHING. At bootup, xdm
 runs, but there are NO consoles running X (C-A-F1 through C-A-F6 give me
 other text consoles, and C-A-F7 through C-A-F12 do NOTHING). ps shows
 getty running on consoles 1-6.
 
 I've never used xdm before so I don't really know much about it. I can
 kill the original xdm and type xdm again but this does nothing.
 
 What sort of things should I be looking for? What configuration files
 should I be looking at?

I installed debian on a machine the other day, and I got the same
behavior. Xdm would run, but the xdm login screen never came up. My
solution was to copy in my /etc/X11/xdm directory from another debian box
where xdm is working fine, and that fixed it. So I suspect there's some
file in that directory that's not setup properly by the x package.

Oh, BTW, does anyone else have an /etc/X11/Xsession file that is
executable? It was when I installed X on my machine, and this lead to an
annoying problem -- startx wouldn't work if you were in the /etc/X11
directory when you ran it! The reason is a rather broken (IMO) parsing of
the /etc/X11/window-managers file. That file has these comments:

# This file contains a list of available window managers. The default
# Xsession file will start the first window manager that it can
# in this list.

/etc/X11/Xsession uses this shell script fragment to parse the file and
run the 1st program in it:

for i in `cat /etc/X11/window-managers`
do
  if [ -x $i ]
  then
exec $i
  fi
done

Unfortunately, this doesn't ignore comments in the file. So it checks to
see if there are any programs on the system named This, or file, or
contains, ... or Xsession -- and if you're in /etc/X11 and Xsession is
executable, it runs Xsession again, resulting a loop that never gets X all
the way up. I expect that if you're in /usr/bin and try to start up X,
it'll run /usr/bin/file instead of the proper window manager. 

Should I report this as a bug? And should Xsession be executable or not?

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Re: manipulating the From header with smail + elm

1996-10-09 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 9 Oct 1996, Marcel Burggraeve wrote:

 My systemname is debian but my provider has another ( offcourse ;-)
 When I post mail to someone via my provider I want my From header
 looking like : [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of graeve or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I've read all about smail and elm ( I think ) but cannot find a
 solution.
 When I send mail to someone and they want to reply, they are replying
 to graeve ( which was ok if it was local ) but it should be
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 How do I achieve this ?

This question has been answered recently by me, but here it is again.
Check out the elmalias manpage, or read /usr/doc/elm/Alias.fmtd.gz
This should give you what you need.

Luck,

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Re: time problems (forwarded)

1996-10-09 Thread Carlo U. Segre
On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:

There was a problem with clock in the older util-linux package.  The 
version in the stable tree is OK as is the current version in the 
unstable tree (version 2.5.7).  I think that upgrading is all you need to do.

Carlo


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Re: rescue disk set

1996-10-09 Thread Clemmitt Sigler
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clemmitt Sigler)
Subject: Re: rescue disk set
Newsgroups: linux.debian.user
Distribution: world
Followup-To: linux.debian.user
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Organization:
Keywords: linux,fsck,hard,drive

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brian C. White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
|  Last night, my aging micropolis 1.5 gig drive decided to scramble itself.
|  Self, I think, Just boot up off the boot and root disks, and fsck the
|  root partition back into order.
[snip]
|  Found that the root inode is gone due to sectors
|  0,1,2, and 3 being NFG.. time to re-lowlevel and pray...
|
| I was just thinking the same the other day.
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I recently had the same problem -- my Linux root partition on my hard
drive went wonkers while I was running Linux.  I did a whereis to try
to find some binary, but it never returned.  I couldn't start an xterm.
I went to the text consoles, but I couldn't log on.  Everything just
hung.  The three finger salute didn't work, either.  I had no choice
but to push the reset button.

Linux wouldn't boot.  My rescue package has fsck, so I fsck'ed the
partition.  First time it had alot of errors, second time I think just 3.
Now there's still one error I can't get rid of.  When I try to boot from
the root partition, some process that tries to start dies, and then the
kernel(?) keeps on trying to start it, giving an infinite loop (PID number
of this process keeps incrementing, it keeps on dying).  Right now I
forget the error message from fsck, I'll post it if you need it to give me
some pertinent info.

A knowledgeable sys admin friend of mine says I have a bad sector and
I need to run some other recovery Linux recovery tool to fix and recover
from this.  He says there is a tool like this for Ultrix, for
example.  Anyone know what I need to run/do?  Sorry for my general
ignorance.

Many TIA.  I know this isn't the right group, but I saw the opportunity
and seized it.

Clemmitt Sigler
Va. Tech Physics Dept.
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/usr/include/asm

1996-10-09 Thread Zachary DeAquila

some software looks for /usr/include/asm, which doesn't exist, but
probably should as a symlink to asm-i386.

Just a minor bug report that's probably well known.

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Re: smail does virtual domains?

1996-10-09 Thread Christian Hudon
On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Nelson Posse Lago wrote:

  I'm seriously considering changing to sendmail or perhaps qmail, or 
 whatever. One of the reasons is that I need virtual e-mail domains. Does 
 smail handle this? Is is reasonable to use it for this? How about qmail?
 Are there plans to packaging it in .deb format?

Yep, qmail handles virtual domains. It's explained, in the qmail FAQ
(which is included with the qmail .tar.gz file).  As for a .deb package,
yes there will be one at some point. I'm working on this. The package is
being held up due to copyright problems. 

  I'm really afraid of sendmail, not for the config files, but because 
 of the security leaks that appear every day; hopefully qmail/smail are 
 better or, at least, less popular among hackers.

Then take a good look at qmail. From what I've seen of its design (and
from the little bits of its code I read), I have a warm and fuzzy
feeling  about qmail's security. 

  Christian

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Re: time problems (forwarded)

1996-10-09 Thread Giuseppe Vacanti

[CMOS clock set to stardate :)]

Could it be that the new debian box has a different version of clock?

A while back I upgraded mine (from the one in the stable tree to the
one in the unstable tree --- sorry I forget the exact version) and my
clock started acting up (one day we were in the 21st century). After a
while I simply downgraded clock (in util-linux) and the problem went
away.

Giuseppe

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[comp.os.linux.announce] Clarification - Linux-FT, The Road Ahead

1996-10-09 Thread Amos Shapira

Does the main figures in the Debian community have anything to say about this?
Do you intend to cooperate in this important effort?

Thanks,

--Amos

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 LINUX-FT
 

  The Road Ahead
  --

Linux-FT is a Lasermoon Ltd product which was developed with the intention
of achieving POSIX.1 and XPG4 certification as part of a project
Lasermoon started in January 1995. Lasermoon obtained the required
licences (POSIX.1, XPG4 etc) and X/Open membership to facilitate this
fully GPL'ed effort. Unifix were involved in the development of the
distribution, and components from Linux-FT were fed back into other
Unifix products (hence the similarities). 


The technology behind Linux-FT was acquired by Caldera during 1996 and
will be incorporated into the Caldera's Linux products.

Caldera's involvement with Linux-FT has been the subject of many postings 
and press announcements over many months and details can be found on 
the Linux-FT WWW site at www.lasermoon.co.uk and Caldera (www.caldera.com).

 Unifix have no connection with, or control over Linux-FT.  Whilst
 we are flattered that Linux-FT is receiving such attention, BOTH
 Unifix GmbH and the Unifix 2.0 RELEASE HAVE NOTHING WHATSOEVER
 TO DO WITH CONTINUING Linux-FT DEVELOPMENTS.

Caldera and Lasermoon are continuing the work of developing
a truely Standards Certified/Branded Linux (released under the GPL).
Working with the orignial developers, we welcome all contributors to the 
POSIX.1 and XPG4 standardisation effort which is essential for the 
long term success of Linux. 

By working together, we can accomplish this effort in a much more 
effecive manner and comply with the licensing requirements of The Open
Group and other such organisations.

If you have any further questions concerning this post, or would like
further information about Linux-FT and its development and Linux
Certification, please contact us or check the Web : www.lasermoon.co.uk


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Linuxthreads package for Debian - any plans?

1996-10-09 Thread Amos Shapira
Hello,

I'm considering using ACE (http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/ACE.html)
under Debian and noticed that the currently available Pthreads
implementation is the MIT one, which is discouraged by the ACE-Linux
people (http://users.deltanet.com/users/slg/ACE/) because it is a
user-level implementation.

Are there any plans to provide Linuxthreads (Xavier Leroy's pthreads
package)?

Thanks,

--Amos

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Re: [comp.os.linux.announce] Clarification - Linux-FT, The Road Ahead

1996-10-09 Thread Lars Wirzenius
Amos Shapira:
 Does the main figures in the Debian community have anything to say about this
 ?
 Do you intend to cooperate in this important effort?

Read also the response from Unifix, just posted. It's already on the
web site, if your news service is slow.

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1996-10-09 Thread Boris D. Beletsky
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Hello
I am maintaining jed pkg and wanted to ask for your advice, since in the new
jed pkg, JED_ROOT is going to be in /usr/lib/jed, i was wondering if i should
rm the old /usr/jed (~i think) JED_ROOT dir in the preinst script.

P.S /usr/lib/jed look like better place to me then /usr/jed

Thks
borik

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Re: [comp.os.linux.announce] Clarification - Linux-FT, The Road Ahead

1996-10-09 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Statement about the Linux POSIX compliance effort]
 Does the main figures in the Debian community have anything to say about
 this? Do you intend to cooperate in this important effort?

I just uploaded the POSIX.1 test suite to our master site. It will show
up tonight in
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/project/misc/NIST-PCTS_151-2.tar.gz

NIST decided to make the suite available without charge. The Debian
Project most heartily applauds this decision. In fact we most heartily
jump up and down with glee and cheer unabashedly.

My plan is to package the POSIX.1 test suite so that any user can run it
and independently verify the POSIX.1 compliance of his/her system.
For this, we need volunteers. So far, Klee Dienes [EMAIL PROTECTED] has
said he'd look at it but hasn't made a committment. We need more people
to look at and work on this. Please volunteer if you can.

I don't know anything about the XPG4 test suite. Is it available to us?

Thanks

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