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meilleurs voeux 2013
bonjour, je souhaite à toutes et à tous des meilleurs voeux pour l'année deux mille treize slt bernard attachment: 400_F_44866654_AaPyOgy1cWWJNxQNeDCbNrJCxDBONKGO.jpg
Re: meilleurs voeux 2013
Le mardi 01 janvier 2013 à 10:17 +0100, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : bonjour, je souhaite à toutes et à tous des meilleurs voeux pour l'année deux mille treize slt bernard Bonne année aussi au meilleur ;) ぁけぉめ☆ｍ（_ _）ｍことょろ＼（＾０＾）／ -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1357033015.5774.0.camel@azuki.jisui
Re: meilleurs voeux 2013
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Re: meilleurs voeux 2013
On 01/01/2013 10:56, ptilou wrote: + 1 @ + Ptilou +1 -- F.Mescam -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kbue39$tjj$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re:meilleurs voeux 2013
Bonjour, Moi aussi, je vous souhaite, à tous les utilisateurs, une bonne année 2013, une bonne santé et, bien sur, plein de bonnes choses avec Debian. Avec peut-être une nouvelle version stable au cours du 1er semestre 2013... ;-) Salut à tous, Stéphane Message du 01/01/13 10:18 De : Bernard Schoenacker A : Debian debian user french Copie à : Objet : meilleurs voeux 2013 bonjour, je souhaite à toutes et à tous des meilleurs voeux pour l'année deux mille treize slt bernard [ 400_F_44866654_AaPyOgy1cWWJNxQNeDCbNrJCxDBONKGO.jpg (34.5 Ko) ] Une messagerie gratuite, garantie à vie et des services en plus, ça vous tente ? Je crée ma boîte mail www.laposte.net -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1584673861.273672.1357053257622.JavaMail.www@wwinf8224
Re: meilleurs voeux 2013
On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 10:17:32 +0100 Bonjour, cochez les cases souhaitées: [ ] bon [ ] bonne [ ] année [ ] anniversaire [ ] fête[ ] week-end [ ] appétit [ ] bourre [ ] à rien [ ] fête des morts [ ] voyage [ ] vacances [ ] 2013 [ ] 2014 [ ] 2015 [ ] 2016 [ ] 2017 [ ] 2018 [ ] 2019 -- (+LittleLama) ptin ya un truc ki vien drentrer dans ma piaule (+LittleLama) un truc monstrueux (+LittleLama) un croisement d'abeille de bourdon frelon et de sanglier (+berzerker_38|et_65) ct pas ta soeur ? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130101162558.67368106@anubis.defcon1
Re: Bls: Pinjaman
sempat kaget juga kok ada orang mo ngutang duit... hekekekk 30jt lagi... BTW... saya absen pak... hadirr... -- LIfE gOoD
browsers lägger av squeeze 6
Jag kör squeeze 6 på en gammal Via Epia-M. Det går sakta, men fungerar. För en tid sedan lade mina browsers (Chromium, Iceweasel) av efter att ha fungerat några minuter. Oftast (?) hände det i samband med att jag öppnade en ny flik.Är det här ett specifikt fenomen för mig? Vad göra?/Per
Re: rt3090
Em 27.12.2012, quinta, Manoel Pedro de Araújo disse: Compilei o drive rt3090. quando eu rodo modprobe -r rt2860sta esse rt2860sta é o módulo que vc acabou de compilar? # man modprobe resulta em FATAL: Module rt2860sta is in use. quando eu rodo modprobe -v rt3090sta me fornece insmod /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt3090sta.ko FATAL: Error inserting rt3090sta (/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt3090sta.ko): Device or resource busy vc seguiu as sugestões de alteração do /etc/network/interfaces? se sim, o que houve? aguem pode me ajudar? -- Manoel -- Cuando la guática pide comídica Pone al cristiánico firme y guerrérico Por sus poróticos y sus cebóllicas, No hay regimiéntico que los deténguica Si tienen hámbrica los populáricos. Violeta Parra Gunther Furtado Curitiba - Paraná - Brasil gunfurt...@gmail.com skype:gunfurtado -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130101104409.68aff...@shrknemo.gbmc.net
Re: dropbox
Tem que executar o programa que foi instalado, para que seja configurado no seu ambiente. Depois disto foi de boa para mim. Apareceu na bandeja do sistema, atualizou os arquivos.. etc.. ! Em 31 de dezembro de 2012 23:41, Manoel Pedro de Araújo mpara...@gmail.comescreveu: no meu gnome não tem a opção iniciar automaticamente. O que eu devo fazer? Em 31 de dezembro de 2012 16:49, China china.lis...@gmail.com escreveu: Abra o programa e vá nas preferências, marque a opção de iniciar automaticamente e mostrar notificações. Isso deve resolver. Feliz 2013! 2012/12/30 Manoel Pedro de Araújo mpara...@gmail.com: instalo o dropbox no no debian interface gnome mas não aparece o icone na area d etrabalho. alguem pode me ajudar? -- Manoel -- @chinabhz -- Manoel -- Att, *Sérgio H. Berlotto Jr *(*chave gpg FC78845B*) E-mails: sergio.berlotto [at] gmail.com Site : http://pythonrs.wordpress.com Twitter: @berlottocdd http://twitter.com/#%21/berlottocdd
Re: rt3090
2013/1/1 Gunther Furtado gunfurt...@gmail.com Em 27.12.2012, quinta, Manoel Pedro de Araújo disse: Compilei o drive rt3090. quando eu rodo modprobe -r rt2860sta esse rt2860sta é o módulo que vc acabou de compilar? # man modprobe Compilei o drive rt3090 resulta em FATAL: Module rt2860sta is in use. quando eu rodo modprobe -v rt3090sta me fornece insmod /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt3090sta.ko FATAL: Error inserting rt3090sta (/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt3090sta.ko): Device or resource busy vc seguiu as sugestões de alteração do /etc/network/interfaces? se sim, o que houve? aguem pode me ajudar? -- Manoel -- Cuando la guática pide comídica Pone al cristiánico firme y guerrérico Por sus poróticos y sus cebóllicas, No hay regimiéntico que los deténguica Si tienen hámbrica los populáricos. Violeta Parra Gunther Furtado Curitiba - Paraná - Brasil gunfurt...@gmail.com skype:gunfurtado -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130101104409.68aff...@shrknemo.gbmc.net -- Manoel
drive rt3090
Estou desesperado compilei o drive abaixo mas nao consigo concluir veja. Compilei o drive rt3090. quando eu rodo modprobe -r rt2860sta resulta em FATAL: Module rt2860sta is in use. quando eu rodo modprobe -v rt3090sta me fornece insmod /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/ kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt3090sta.ko FATAL: Error inserting rt3090sta (/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt3090sta.ko): Device or resource busy aguem pode me ajudar? -- Manoel
skype
Olá, pessoal, o skype no meu pc amd64 quand eu compilo da uma falha de segmentação. Alguem pode me ajudar? -- Manoel
Re: drive rt3090
Em 01.01.2013, terça, Manoel Pedro de Araújo disse: Estou desesperado compilei o drive abaixo mas nao consigo concluir veja. Compilei o drive rt3090. Manoel, Como root digite: # echo rt2860sta /etc/modprobe.d/rt2860-blacklist.conf # echo rt3090sta /etc/modules e reinicie seu computador. Quando isto tiver terminado # lsmod | grep rt e confira qual versão do m[odulo foi carregada. abs., gunther quando eu rodo modprobe -r rt2860sta resulta em FATAL: Module rt2860sta is in use. quando eu rodo modprobe -v rt3090sta me fornece insmod /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/ kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt3090sta.ko FATAL: Error inserting rt3090sta (/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt3090sta.ko): Device or resource busy aguem pode me ajudar? -- Manoel -- Cuando la guática pide comídica Pone al cristiánico firme y guerrérico Por sus poróticos y sus cebóllicas, No hay regimiéntico que los deténguica Si tienen hámbrica los populáricos. Violeta Parra Gunther Furtado Curitiba - Paraná - Brasil gunfurt...@gmail.com skype:gunfurtado -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALKj2Cp8cUHOTR31eqYrXiDSo9iB+Y_orbp2zZ6tHZtd=jj...@mail.gmail.com
Re: drive rt3090
Em Ter, 2013-01-01 às 21:08 -0200, Gunther Furtado escreveu: Em 01.01.2013, terça, Manoel Pedro de Araújo disse: Estou desesperado compilei o drive abaixo mas nao consigo concluir veja. Compilei o drive rt3090. Manoel, Como root digite: # echo rt2860sta /etc/modprobe.d/rt2860-blacklist.conf ops! aqui deveria ser (acho): # echo blacklist rt2860sta /etc/modprobe.d/rt2860-blacklist.conf # echo rt3090sta /etc/modules e reinicie seu computador. Quando isto tiver terminado # lsmod | grep rt e confira qual versão do m[odulo foi carregada. abs., gunther quando eu rodo modprobe -r rt2860sta resulta em FATAL: Module rt2860sta is in use. quando eu rodo modprobe -v rt3090sta me fornece insmod /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/ kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt3090sta.ko FATAL: Error inserting rt3090sta (/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt3090sta.ko): Device or resource busy aguem pode me ajudar? -- Manoel -- Cuando la guática pide comídica Pone al cristiánico firme y guerrérico Por sus poróticos y sus cebóllicas, No hay regimiéntico que los deténguica Si tienen hámbrica los populáricos. Violeta Parra Gunther Furtado Curitiba - Paraná - Brasil gunfurt...@gmail.com skype:gunfurtado -- Gunther Furtado gunfurt...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1357083254.3753.0.ca...@lapido.gbcm.net
Re: drive rt3090
Fiz o que vc pediu e obtive o resultado # lsmod | grep rt parport_pc 18855 0 parport27954 3 parport_pc,ppdev,lp rt2860sta 454557 1 crc_ccitt 1323 1 rt2860sta Em 1 de janeiro de 2013 20:34, Gunther Furtado gunfurt...@gmail.comescreveu: Em Ter, 2013-01-01 às 21:08 -0200, Gunther Furtado escreveu: Em 01.01.2013, terça, Manoel Pedro de Araújo disse: Estou desesperado compilei o drive abaixo mas nao consigo concluir veja. Compilei o drive rt3090. Manoel, Como root digite: # echo rt2860sta /etc/modprobe.d/rt2860-blacklist.conf ops! aqui deveria ser (acho): # echo blacklist rt2860sta /etc/modprobe.d/rt2860-blacklist.conf # echo rt3090sta /etc/modules e reinicie seu computador. Quando isto tiver terminado # lsmod | grep rt e confira qual versão do m[odulo foi carregada. abs., gunther quando eu rodo modprobe -r rt2860sta resulta em FATAL: Module rt2860sta is in use. quando eu rodo modprobe -v rt3090sta me fornece insmod /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/ kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt3090sta.ko FATAL: Error inserting rt3090sta (/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt3090sta.ko): Device or resource busy aguem pode me ajudar? -- Manoel -- Cuando la guática pide comídica Pone al cristiánico firme y guerrérico Por sus poróticos y sus cebóllicas, No hay regimiéntico que los deténguica Si tienen hámbrica los populáricos. Violeta Parra Gunther Furtado Curitiba - Paraná - Brasil gunfurt...@gmail.com skype:gunfurtado -- Gunther Furtado gunfurt...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1357083254.3753.0.ca...@lapido.gbcm.net -- Manoel
Re: No suitable module for running kernel found : virtualbox-ose
2013-01-01 08:39, Contact. Vardhan skrev: i am using debian 6.0.6. please look into the data provide me a possible solution : [1] installation of virtualbox-ose : # aptitude install virtualbox-ose [...] Setting up virtualbox-ose (3.2.10-dfsg-1) ... Stopping VirtualBox kernel modules. Starting VirtualBox kernel modulesNo suitable module for running kernel found ... failed! failed! invoke-rc.d: initscript virtualbox-ose, action restart failed. [...] Building initial module for 2.6.32-5-amd64 [...] DKMS: install Completed. Stopping VirtualBox kernel modules. Starting VirtualBox kernel modules. [3] boot log: http://pastebin.com/LS3ipPFc Dec 30 07:28:07 kernel: [ 157.143740] vboxdrv: Successfully loaded version 3.2.10_OSE (interface 0x00140001). I do not see a problem. What are the symptoms that make you believe that there is a problem? You seem to quote the error message from the installation process, but later in the same installation process it automatically rebuilds the kernel module without problems, and the boot-log seems to say that the module was loaded without error. / johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50e2b447.8080...@gmail.com
Re: RSA Key authentication
On Lu, 31 dec 12, 12:58:05, Bob Proulx wrote: Thore wrote: Another question is: How must I configure it that I only can login with the user password my passphrase for the key and the keys? so tripple protection against brute force. I recommend not to do this. Make sure you have a good non-guessable password and then don't use it unless you need it. If you don't use it then it can't be sniffed. If it is secure then it can't be guessed. In which case it isn't safer to disable it. And having it available for that emergency when you need it is very useful. I understood that Thore wants to have triple authentication: passphrase for the key, the key *and* the user password. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Is this OK in C++ and C?
* Zbigniew Komarnicki: Is this OK or is this a bug, when the wariable 'n' is initializing by negative value? There no any warning. Is this normal? I know that value -5 is converted to unsigned but probably this should by printed a warning, when this is a constant value. What do you think about this? $ g++ -Wsign-conversion t.cc t.cc: In function ‘int main()’: t.cc:7:25: warning: negative integer implicitly converted to unsigned type [-Wsign-conversion] This is with GCC 4.7 in wheezy. This warning isn't in -Wall or -Wextra, probably because the false-positive rate is atrocious. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ip7hqher@mid.deneb.enyo.de
RE: Is this OK in C++ and C?
Joe Pfeiffer
Jari Fredriksson ja...@iki.fi writes:
31.12.2012 20:33, Zbigniew Komarnicki kirjoitti:
Is this OK or is this a bug, when the wariable 'n' is
initializing by negative value? There no any warning.
Is this normal? I know that value -5 is converted
to unsigned but probably this should by printed a warning,
when this is a constant value. What do you think about this?
// prog.cpp
#include iostream
using namespace std;
int main()
{
const unsigned int n = -5;
cout The variable n is: n endl;
return 0;
}
Results:
$ g++ -Wall -W prog.cpp -o prog
$ ./prog
The variable n is: 4294967291
Thank you.
This is a known bug in Debian GNU/Linux. Happy new year ;)
Where does the standard require a warning in this case? If no warning
is required, the behavior is not a bug.
It is a bug, just not a compiler bug. It is a bug in the user program.
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RE: Is this OK in C++ and C?
Is this OK or is this a bug, when the wariable 'n' is
initializing by negative value? There no any warning.
Is this normal? I know that value -5 is converted
to unsigned but probably this should by printed a warning,
when this is a constant value. What do you think about this?
// prog.cpp
#include iostream
using namespace std;
int main()
{
const unsigned int n = -5;
cout The variable n is: n endl;
return 0;
}
Results:
$ g++ -Wall -W prog.cpp -o prog
$ ./prog
The variable n is: 4294967291
This is expected behavior, but not defined by the standard because the result
is not portable. That is, a rollover value will occur, but it could vary
depending on the width of an int, and possibly by the binary representation.
As far as I know all systems that Debian with gcc runs on are two's complement,
but still...
I cannot speak to the C++11 standard because ISO/ANSI are not asking a
reasonable price for the specification docs, and I can't afford the price.
A good compiler *may* warn you about this, but it may not do so by default.
You may have to turn the warnings on. Note: gcc's -Wall is tricky. You may
still not get what you expect.
This kind of type shenanigan is allowed in C/C++ because of silent standard
conversions. A strongly-(enough)-typed language will not permit conversions to
or from signed-unsigned without a cast or a conversion function. C/C++
allows this because there is no loss of significant digits (precision).
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Re: lightdm login screen minor issue
Hello cr...@gtek.biz, what a wonderful name :) cr...@gtek.biz wrote: At the login screen, there are two buttons in the top right-hand corner, one for switching hi-contrast and large fonts on or off, and the other for restarting or shutting the system down. That power button has no functionality to it. When I click on it, a blank panel opens and there is nothing to click on. I am at a loss trying to figure out what drives that missing functionality. Can anyone give me a nudge in the right direction? What packages related to lightdm do you have installed? To check, try something like # dpkg -l lightdm* Do you have upower installed? lightdm suggests it, and it appears to be related to system-wide power management. Again, try # dpkg -l upower to see if/what is installed. Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130101113932.0135f...@ares.home.chubig.net
Fwd: Re (2): Running vlc from another machine.
Forwarding back to list... -- Forwarded message -- From: peasth...@shaw.ca Date: Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 11:50 PM Subject: Re (2): Running vlc from another machine. To: stor...@gmail.com Cc: peasth...@shaw.ca From: Chris Davies chris-use...@roaima.co.uk Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2013 02:11:14 + I'm going to assume (dangerously) that since you're running vlc rather than cvlc you don't really mean console but local X Windows screen. Yes, I should have said, In a local LXTerminal, Don't run telnet, use ssh instead. OK, thanks. DISPLAY=:0 vlc *.WAV It produces sound correctly and a flock of messages. peter@dalton:~$ DISPLAY=:0 vlc *.WAV VLC media player 1.1.3 The Luggage (revision exported) Warning: call to srand(1357015068) Warning: call to rand() Blocked: call to unsetenv(DBUS_ACTIVATION_ADDRESS) Blocked: call to unsetenv(DBUS_ACTIVATION_BUS_TYPE) Warning: call to signal(13, 0x1) Blocked: call to setlocale(6, ) Blocked: call to sigaction(17, 0xb71780d4, 0xb7178048) Warning: call to srand(1357015068) Warning: call to rand() Warning: call to srand(1357015068) Warning: call to rand() Warning: call to srand(1357015068) Warning: call to rand() Warning: call to srand(1357015068) cvlc *.WAV Correct sound again and more messages. peter@dalton:~$ cvlc *.WAV VLC media player 1.1.3 The Luggage (revision exported) Warning: call to srand(1357015446) Warning: call to rand() Blocked: call to unsetenv(DBUS_ACTIVATION_ADDRESS) Blocked: call to unsetenv(DBUS_ACTIVATION_BUS_TYPE) [0x9e0b51c] inhibit interface error: Failed to connect to the D-Bus session daem on: /usr/bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: Autolau nch error: X11 initialization failed. [0x9e0b51c] main interface error: no suitable interface module [0x9e08d44] main interface error: no suitable interface module [0x9d618fc] main libvlc error: interface globalhotkeys,none initialization fai led [0x9e08d44] dummy interface: using the dummy interface module... Thanks for the help, ... Peter E. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12 Tel +13606390202 Bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/ http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAKmZw+ZBijSON+uTQJdAyaZkRDX_O7j8jd_z9j=gb7dz3hh...@mail.gmail.com
Fwd: Re (2): Running vlc from another machine.
Forwarding back to the list... -- Forwarded message -- From: peasth...@shaw.ca Date: Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 11:54 PM Subject: Re (2): Running vlc from another machine. To: stor...@gmail.com Cc: peasth...@shaw.ca From: Brad Alexander stor...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 22:14:01 -0500 Telnet? Aside from the security concerns, you can set up ssh ... OK, thanks. vlc has some sort of streaming interface. ... Here are a couple of links ... Will read. Thanks for the help,... Peter E. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12 Tel +13606390202 Bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/ http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cakmzw+zkrbrmztq9va2tv9lmykpx77o8jyctavun3xedc3v...@mail.gmail.com
Re: lightdm login screen minor issue
On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 05:39, Claudius Hubig debian_1...@chubig.net said: Hello cr...@gtek.biz, what a wonderful name :) cr...@gtek.biz wrote: At the login screen, there are two buttons in the top right-hand corner, one for switching hi-contrast and large fonts on or off, and the other for restarting or shutting the system down. That power button has no functionality to it. When I click on it, a blank panel opens and there is nothing to click on. I am at a loss trying to figure out what drives that missing functionality. Can anyone give me a nudge in the right direction? What packages related to lightdm do you have installed? To check, try something like # dpkg -l lightdm* Do you have upower installed? lightdm suggests it, and it appears to be related to system-wide power management. Again, try # dpkg -l upower to see if/what is installed. Best, Claudius Hi Claudius As requested: $ dpkg -l lightdm* Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ NameVersionArchitecture Description +++-===-==-==-=== ii lightdm 1.2.2-4i386 simple display manager un lightdm-greeter none(no description available) un lightdm-gtk none(no description available) ii lightdm-gtk-greeter 1.1.6-2i386 simple display manager (GTK+ greeter) $ dpkg -l upower Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ NameVersionArchitecture Description +++-===-==-==-=== ii upower 0.9.17-1 i386 abstraction for power management Looks like I've got both installed correctly. I did compare the full dpkg list on this system and another system that installed all of the task recommends, and I don't see any power related packages that are missing. This is not a do or die situation, but I would like to understand what I may have missed. I appreciate the suggestions. Sent - Gtek Web Mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1357044950.048131...@webmail.gtek.biz
Re: amavis-clamav fails
On 27/12/12 14:32, Tony van der Hoff wrote: Hi, Running postfix/amavis/clamav on my mail server; of late (last week or two) I'm seeing error messages in syslog: Dec 27 13:52:43 vanderhoff amavis[18681]: (18681-03) ESMTP::10024 /var/lib/amavis/tmp/amavis-20121227T130337-18681: bounce-debian-user=lists_0711=vanderhoff@lists.debian.org - t...@vanderhoff.org SIZE=5530 Received: from vanderhoff.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (vanderhoff.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP for t...@vanderhoff.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:52:43 + (GMT) Dec 27 13:52:43 vanderhoff amavis[18681]: (18681-03) Checking: qrJCYwQLf+d7 [82.195.75.100] bounce-debian-user=lists_0711=vanderhoff@lists.debian.org - t...@vanderhoff.org Dec 27 13:52:43 vanderhoff amavis[18681]: (18681-03) ClamAV-clamd: Can't send to socket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl: Transport endpoint is not connected, retrying (1) Dec 27 13:52:44 vanderhoff amavis[18681]: (18681-03) (!)ClamAV-clamd: Can't connect to UNIX socket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl: No such file or directory, retrying (2) Dec 27 13:52:51 vanderhoff amavis[18681]: (18681-03) (!)ClamAV-clamd av-scanner FAILED: run_av error: Too many retries to talk to /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl (Can't connect to UNIX socket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl: No such file or directory) at (eval 103) line 373.\n Dec 27 13:52:51 vanderhoff amavis[18681]: (18681-03) (!!)WARN: all primary virus scanners failed, considering backups I've tried restarting clamav-daemon, amavis and postscript; no obvious error messages, and the problem persists. Can anyone please suggest what's going wrong? Cheers, Tony Followup for those scanning the archives: I had an off-list reply as follows: Make sure this is in order: http://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/clamav-amavisd-new.html If clamav or amavis-new have been upgraded, the config files may have changed. This howto was useful in identifying the problem, but didn't address my particular issue. In fact, I changed permissions on /var/run/clamav from 755 to 775, and restarted clamav-daemon successfully. Cheers, Tony -- Tony van der Hoff | mailto:t...@vanderhoff.org Ariège, France | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50e2e26f.7080...@vanderhoff.org
Re: lightdm login screen minor issue
Hello cr...@gtek.biz, cr...@gtek.biz wrote: ii lightdm 1.2.2-4i386 simple display manager ii lightdm-gtk-greeter 1.1.6-2i386 simple display manager (GTK+ greeter) ii upower 0.9.17-1 i386 abstraction for power management That looks ok, yes. You might have mis-configured ConsoleKit/PolicyKit in such a way that it doesn’t allow unauthenticated users (i.e. the login screen) to shut down the system. However, I have no idea how to fix that :) Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130101130858.463a9...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Debian install including non free
Hi, On 29/12/12 21:42, Zenaan Harkness wrote: check out debmirror package also try: apt-cache search debian | egrep mirror Thanks so much for your response. I will look into it, and see what I can do. Cheers, Oliver -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50e310e2@iinet.net.au
Re: Is this OK in C++ and C?
Mark Allums m...@allums.com writes:
Is this OK or is this a bug, when the wariable 'n' is
initializing by negative value? There no any warning.
Is this normal? I know that value -5 is converted
to unsigned but probably this should by printed a warning,
when this is a constant value. What do you think about this?
// prog.cpp
#include iostream
using namespace std;
int main()
{
const unsigned int n = -5;
cout The variable n is: n endl;
return 0;
}
Results:
$ g++ -Wall -W prog.cpp -o prog
$ ./prog
The variable n is: 4294967291
This is expected behavior, but not defined by the standard because the
result is not portable. That is, a rollover value will occur, but it
could vary depending on the width of an int, and possibly by the
binary representation. As far as I know all systems that Debian with
gcc runs on are two's complement, but still...
I believe it is indeed defined behavior.
6.3.1.3 Signed and unsigned integers
1 When a value with integer type is converted to another integer type other
than _Bool, if
the value can be represented by the new type, it is unchanged.
2 Otherwise, if the new type is unsigned, the value is converted by repeatedly
adding or
subtracting one more than the maximum value that can be represented in the
new type
until the value is in the range of the new type.49)
I cannot speak to the C++11 standard because ISO/ANSI are not asking a
reasonable price for the specification docs, and I can't afford the
price.
A good compiler *may* warn you about this, but it may not do so by
default. You may have to turn the warnings on. Note: gcc's -Wall is
tricky. You may still not get what you expect.
This kind of type shenanigan is allowed in C/C++ because of silent
standard conversions. A strongly-(enough)-typed language will not
permit conversions to or from signed-unsigned without a cast or a
conversion function. C/C++ allows this because there is no loss of
significant digits (precision).
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Re: Is this OK in C++ and C?
Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net writes: On 12/31/2012 7:30 PM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Jari Fredriksson ja...@iki.fi writes: This is a known bug in Debian GNU/Linux. Happy new year ;) Where does the standard require a warning in this case? If no warning is required, the behavior is not a bug. I don't have a copy of the standard any more, but IIRC it does need a warning. It requires a conversion from signed to unsigned, which can cause incorrect data (as in this case). Promotions (i.e. short to int, float to double) will never cause a loss of data, and do not require warnings. But I also admit it's been several years since I looked at the spec and my memory isn't what it used to be (at least that's what my wife tells me). Looking into it a bit more, I can't find a place where the C99 standard requires *any* warnings. In particular: Annex I (informative) Common warnings 1 An implementation may generate warnings in many situations, none of which are specified as part of this International Standard. The following are a few of the more common situations. (a list of warnings follows) A search doesn't turn up the string warn anywhere in the standard except in this annex. (granted, I don't have the final standard, just a draft from 2005. But still...) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1bpq1okaov@snowball.wb.pfeifferfamily.net
Re: Is this OK in C++ and C?
On Tuesday 01 of January 2013 08:23:05 you wrote: C lessons today? (There are newsgroups for C and C++ questions, but, why not?) Yes :-) I wanted to prohibit user to assign negative value to a variable. This variable is later passed to a recurrence function as argument and of course I got segmentation fault, because the function is called 4294967291 times. I was very surprised when I discover that this code was compiled without any warning. I thought if a variable is 'unsigned int' then this is not allowed to assign negative value. That's all. Thank you very much. -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201301012111.58075.cblas...@gmail.com
Re: Is this OK in C++ and C?
* On 2013 01 Jan 14:14 -0600, Zbigniew Komarnicki wrote: On Tuesday 01 of January 2013 08:23:05 you wrote: C lessons today? (There are newsgroups for C and C++ questions, but, why not?) Yes :-) I wanted to prohibit user to assign negative value to a variable. This variable is later passed to a recurrence function as argument and of course I got segmentation fault, because the function is called 4294967291 times. Then you will need to bounds test the user input. I was very surprised when I discover that this code was compiled without any warning. I thought if a variable is 'unsigned int' then this is not allowed to assign negative value. Consider instead that the code is giving you the value of MAX UNSIGNED INT - 5. In other words, the code is allowing you to count backwards from the maximum integer unsigned value on your system. That's how I understand it. - Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130101203334.gr1...@n0nb.us
Re: Is this OK in C++ and C?
Zbigniew Komarnicki cblas...@gmail.com writes: I wanted to prohibit user to assign negative value to a variable. This variable is later passed to a recurrence function as argument and of course I got segmentation fault, because the function is called 4294967291 times. You MUST check the input. Consider a user who has an int with the value he wants to pass. If there were a check, he'd just write: func(unsigned int(x)) to get the thing to compile. Or a user who in error computes a silly large positive value by any nunmber of means. There are languages which attempt to do bounds checking statically, but C isn't like that - which is why buffer overflow still is the friend of the malware writer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87y5gcczhh@aptiva.optonline.net
Re: Running vlc from another machine.
Chris Davies wrote: peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: At the console, peter@dalton:~$ vlc *.WAV starts a vlc instance and produces audio. The same command via a telnet connection is not so successful. Don't run telnet, use ssh instead. Agreed. Ssh is usually (almost always, by default) configured to carry the display across the connection transparently, Never by default. It would be a security issue. Think keyboard loggers and other nefarious things. If you want the X Window display forwarded then you would need to enable it explicitly. (You may have enabled it either in your $HOME/.ssh/config for all connections or edited your system /etc/ssh/ssh_config enabling it globally but it isn't enabled by default.) Command line: ssh -X other.example.com Or long form: ssh -o ForwardX11=yes other.example.com Or in the ~/.ssh/config file for a particular host: Host other.example.com ForwardX11 yes Note that while this works to forward the display that the sound from vlc won't be forwarded. The sound will still emit from the underlying host sound system. If that is fine great. I haven't done so but vlc has a streaming interface that I have been wanting to try out. Without having used it I think the streaming interface would probably be the superior solution because it would stream video and sound together to your remote device. Also, vlc doesn't recognize the display as iceweasel does. peter@dalton:~$ vlc --display=:0 *.WAV vlc: unknown option or missing mandatory argument `--display=:0' DISPLAY=:0 vlc *.WAV or export DISPLAY=:0 vlc *.WAV or cvlc *.WAV Agreed. But the natural follow-on to this would be to use the DISPLAY to set to a remote display such as: DISPLAY=otherhost.example.com:0 vlc *.WAV And that will run into the issue that by default X Window servers these days no longer listen to the network for connections. In the old days those were wide open. But these sayd the -nolisten tcp is passed to X on the command line. $ ps -ef | grep X | grep --color -e -nolisten tcp That configuration is a good safe configuration. But it means that X is listening on the localhost 127.0.0.1 address only and won't be available for network connections. See this file for details: /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc On a local friendly private network behind a firewall or not connected to a hostile network it is probably okay to remove that option and open the machine up for throwing the display from machine to machine. Note that then the additional thing you would need is to use 'xhost' to enable other systems to connect to your display. This still operates in the traditional manor that anyone who has used it before will remember. Read the man page. But if you have decided to go this route then you are probably okay with lowered security in which case most people tend to use xhost + to keep it simple regardless of the security implications. I recommend looking at the vlc network streaming interface. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: RSA Key authentication
Andrei POPESCU wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Thore wrote: Another question is: How must I configure it that I only can login with the user password my passphrase for the key and the keys? so tripple protection against brute force. I recommend not to do this. Make sure you have a good non-guessable password and then don't use it unless you need it. If you don't use it then it can't be sniffed. If it is secure then it can't be guessed. In which case it isn't safer to disable it. And having it available for that emergency when you need it is very useful. I understood that Thore wants to have triple authentication: passphrase for the key, the key *and* the user password. Oh! Require *both* the rsa ssh key AND the root password. Thanks for suggesting that clarification. I had read that as disabling the root password. I do not believe that is easily possible to require both. It isn't one of the standard configurations. It almost certainly seems possible to configure by some method through the PAM (pluggable authentication module) system however. If there is a solution to do this I think in the PAM area would be the place to look. The upstream openssh list would be the best place to discover this type of information. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Is this OK in C++ and C?
01.01.2013 22:11, Zbigniew Komarnicki kirjoitti: I was very surprised when I discover that this code was compiled without any warning. I thought if a variable is 'unsigned int' then this is not allowed to assign negative value. That's all. Indeed that is all. C and C++ are light weight code generators, and most such checks must be coded, they are not generated by the compiler. There are other languages, like Ada, and Pascal too, being more pedantic for such issues. But they generate usually more bloated code, as the compiler just creates the checks into it. -- Q: What is the burning question on the mind of every dyslexic existentialist? A: Is there a dog? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Is this OK in C++ and C?
On Tue, 2013-01-01 at 11:41 -0700, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Looking into it a bit more, I can't find a place where the C99 standard requires *any* warnings. In particular: Annex I (informative) Common warnings 1 An implementation may generate warnings in many situations, none of which are specified as part of this International Standard. The following are a few of the more common situations. (a list of warnings follows) A search doesn't turn up the string warn anywhere in the standard except in this annex. But it probably has quite a few occurrences of 'diagnostic', the C++ standard does; and it states that a 'diagnostic message' shall be issued if a program breaks the rules of the language except where the standard explicitly states no diagnostic is required. With regard to the original question of assigning a negative value to an unsigned integer, this seems to be allowed and defined behaviour. The section on integral conversions has: If the destination type is unsigned, the resulting value is the least unsigned integer congruent to the source integer (modulo 2 n where n is the number of bits used to represent the unsigned type). [Note: In a two’s complement representation, this conversion is conceptual and there is no change in the bit pattern (if there is no truncation). ] -- Tixy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1357100719.3353.17.ca...@computer5.home
understanding the role/relationship of the firmware and driver in case of Wi-Fi adapters
Hello, some Wi-Fi adapters(for example Intel ipw2200 family and many Ralink cards) require both firmware and drivers in order to operate properly. 1) As I understand, firmware is usually a closed-source binary image provided by Wi-Fi card manufacturer? 2) What happens with the firmware when card becomes operational? I mean by definition it should be written to device non-volatile memory(for example flash memory), but I doubt that this is the case for Wi-Fi adapters.. Or is it? 3) Last but not least, which aspects are controlled by Wi-Fi card firmware and what role plays the Wi-Fi adapter driver? regards, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cajx5yvf1qvgftwoviaoo3hejkf3sjzokvkz7f7ocnrtmsd9...@mail.gmail.com
Re: understanding the role/relationship of the firmware and driver in case of Wi-Fi adapters
Martin T wrote: some Wi-Fi adapters(for example Intel ipw2200 family and many Ralink cards) require both firmware and drivers in order to operate properly. Yes. 1) As I understand, firmware is usually a closed-source binary image provided by Wi-Fi card manufacturer? Yes. And because of this it doesn't meet the Debian Free Software Guidelines and can't be part of Debian. Packages of this firmware can only go in the non-free repository. 2) What happens with the firmware when card becomes operational? I mean by definition it should be written to device non-volatile memory(for example flash memory), but I doubt that this is the case for Wi-Fi adapters.. Or is it? No. The image is simply loaded into the adapter's ram. After the device loses power the memory evaporates. When power is applied again the device is once again blank or back to the default power on state and the firmware must be loaded again. 3) Last but not least, which aspects are controlled by Wi-Fi card firmware and what role plays the Wi-Fi adapter driver? Most devices today are designed using semi-general purpose hardware which includes a firmware part to configure and program the device. Vendors do this because it allows them to ship hardware early and to fix hardware bugs by making changes to the firmware later. They can do this very late and often after shipping the product. They simply update the device driver and put it on their web site and their customers load the new driver. This can effectively fix an incorrectly designed piece of hardware in the field. And that is why vendors like to design devices that use a firmware component. That they are programmable does not make them a computer. They are usually simply logic devices with memory to program the operation of them. There are various techniques such as state machines implemented with FPGAs and so forth. Programmable state machines almost always play a huge part in any electronic chip design. There isn't a simple rule that says every adapter behaves a certain way and the firmware does a certain thing on every one of them. Every vendor designs their device independently. Every one of them may be different. Which makes it hard to produce a generally correct answer. All that can really be said is that the firmware is used by the device to set itself up for the operation it was designed to do. After loading the device firmware then the kernel device driver has the task of interacting with the device. It provides the software layer that translates between a physical hardware device and the kernel's software. Bob Speaking as a past chip designer. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian install including non free
Oliver Fairhall wrote: I would like to include non free firmware/software/docs in my initial Debian installation. I have read some information online, though am still not sure of a few things. Must it be in the initial installation? Note that there are some systems that presently must include some nonfree firmware in the initial system install in order to work. See Bug#696571#77 for example. Hopefully these will be fixed before Wheezy's release. But hopefully these are rare corner cases. I will make a USB flash install drive, to be used on a number of machines, including some which will never see the internet. Since you will make a USB image this gives you some flexibility to build a custom install image that includes the additions you want. I have not personally spent too much time on USB images but this seems reasonable. I am assuming all this material is free, as in beer; is it possible to download an image of these collections, or download everything from the relevant repositories, and package it in such a way that it is available for Debian's installer to use? Yes. Anything in non-free is distributable but only free as in free beer. There has been a lot of discussion on the mailing lately about preseed files. You probably want to read through the archives. What you want to do is to create a custom usb install image with all of the packages you want on the image and additionally create a preseed.cfg file on the image that includes among other things that you will need something like this with whatever packages you require. You probably want some of firmware-linux-nonfree, firmware-ipw2x00, firmware-iwlwifi, firmware-realtek or others. d-i pkgsel/include string package1 package2 Here are some resources for you: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apb.html Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Is this OK in C++ and C?
On Wednesday 02 of January 2013 05:25:19 Tixy wrote: On Tue, 2013-01-01 at 11:41 -0700, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Looking into it a bit more, I can't find a place where the C99 standard requires *any* warnings. In particular: Annex I (informative) Common warnings 1 An implementation may generate warnings in many situations, none of which are specified as part of this International Standard. The following are a few of the more common situations. (a list of warnings follows) A search doesn't turn up the string warn anywhere in the standard except in this annex. But it probably has quite a few occurrences of 'diagnostic', the C++ standard does; and it states that a 'diagnostic message' shall be issued if a program breaks the rules of the language except where the standard explicitly states no diagnostic is required. With regard to the original question of assigning a negative value to an unsigned integer, this seems to be allowed and defined behaviour. The section on integral conversions has: If the destination type is unsigned, the resulting value is the least unsigned integer congruent to the source integer (modulo 2 n where n is the number of bits used to represent the unsigned type). [Note: In a two’s complement representation, this conversion is conceptual and there is no change in the bit pattern (if there is no truncation). ] Thank you all for your help in understanding my problem. Best regards, Zbigniew -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201301020850.00733.cblas...@gmail.com
