Re: Xorg fatal server error segmentation fault i686

2021-05-05 Thread Felix Miata
Richmond composed on 2021-05-05 12:49 (UTC+0100):

> I installed debian on an old PC i686. I chose the mate desktop. When I
> tried to log in throught display manager I could not, so:

> I closed X down with telinit 3
> I logged in on the console as root
> I ran xinit -- :0
> I switched to a non root user in the xterm window on the display
> I typed export DISPLAY=:0
> I ran mate-session
> X crashed with a segmentation fault

> The backtrace is on the console so I cannot cut and paste it. It says it
> is in Xorg at _start+0x31

> What can I do? Perhaps use a different xserver. The display driver is
> nouveau.

I use nouveau kernel driver, modesetting X driver:
# inxi -CGISxxy
System:
  Host: gx27c Kernel: 4.19.0-16-686 i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0
  Desktop: Trinity R14.0.10 tk: Qt 3.5.0 wm: Twin dm: TDM
  Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
CPU:
  Info: Single Core model: Intel Pentium 4 bits: 32 type: MCP
  arch: Netburst Northwood rev: 9 cache: L1: 8 KiB L2: 512 KiB
  flags: pae sse sse2 bogomips: 4788
  Speed: 2394 MHz min/max: N/A Core speed (MHz): 1: 2394
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] vendor: Palit Microsystems
  driver: nouveau v: kernel bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0110
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: loaded: modesetting
  resolution: 1680x1050~60Hz s-dpi: 96
  OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0 128 bits) v: 3.3 Mesa 18.3.6
  compat-v: 3.1 direct render: Yes
Info:
  Processes:...Shell: Bash v: 5.0.3 running-in: konsole  inxi: 3.3.04
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Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-05 Thread David Wright
On Wed 05 May 2021 at 12:01:07 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, May 05, 2021 at 10:36:53AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > OTOH perhaps monkeysphere has some reason to lock /etc/passwd et al
> > during operation. Running strings on its binaries might throw up
> > some 'pwd.lock' matches. Or one could inotifywatch the program to
> > see how often it is run (unless it's a daemon). Just thinking aloud.
> 
> I actually looked for that filename in "strings /usr/bin/sudo" and
> "strings /usr/sbin/vipw" before Google told me that it's used by those
> libc functions (lckpwdf(3) and its buddy ulckpwdf(3)).
> 
> It's a bit odd that the man page doesn't contain the filename.  Usually
> you'd expect it to.
> 
> > One thing I didn't learn is why .pwd.lock is in /etc/ rather than,
> > say, /run/lock/. Perhaps related, why are there dotfiles in /etc/
> > anyway. (.git/, .java/, .etckeeper, .gitignore are the others.)
> > What are they hiding from?
> 
> This predates /run by a long time.
> 
> Also, presumably, it wants to be in /etc because that's where the file
> that it's paired with lives.  Dot-lock files are usually in the same
> location as the files they represent.

Yes—though its name, in fact, ensures that it never lists next to any
of the files that it might be assumed to lock.

> Why the dot?  So that it doesn't show up in a casual "ls" and cause a
> bunch of n00b questions, obviously.

Yes, I can understand that for the users' home directories; they don't
want listings of their own files to be interspersed with configuration
files. And many of the latter files will be read and written on behalf
of the user rather than by themselves, so there's little need for them
to see them all the time.

But /etc isn't anybody's home directory: it's configuration information
for the whole system. So there's no need to dot any of the files and
directories in order to either inform the sysadmin that these are
configuration files, or to hide them. Anyway, that was my (related) point.

Cheers,
David.



Shorewall and libvirt

2021-05-05 Thread Charles Curley
For years, up through Buster, I have had a nice setup with virtual
machines on my laptops, with firewalling provided by shorewall and
rules I have added over the years. As I move from network to network,
the firewall is reconfigured, and the VMs continue to work. I also have
scripts that detect my home networks, and re-do the firewall for use on
the home network.

Now, with Bullseye, I seem to be hitting a brick wall. Something --
libvirt?? -- is mucking with my firewalling and breaking the virtual
internal networking.

What is the preferred way of running libvirt on a laptop? I do not
*have* to have shorewall, but would like some sort of firewall tool.

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Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-05 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 5 May 2021 10:36:53 -0500
David Wright  wrote:

> [W]hy are there dotfiles in /etc/ anyway.
> (.git/, .java/, .etckeeper, .gitignore are the others.) What are they
> hiding from?

Indeed. And shouldn't one be backing them up?

I see that amanda has been backing them up and that "add *" in
amrecover does add them to the extract list (phew!). Would other backup
tools catch dotfiles?

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Re: What is the best (and free) Linux softphone?

2021-05-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
I think Linphone used to have a CLI interface, so you might want to look
into it.  I haven't used it in a long time, so I don't know what is its
current status.  I basically gave up on SIP (partly because of very
spotty support for encrypted communications and for async messages like
SMS) and recommend Mumble, Matrix, or Jitsi for discussions over IP
instead; tho none of those support the "call" feature, so they require
some previous arrangement about when the communication will take
place :-( (Matrix trie(s|d) to provide that, but it doesn't really work
for me).


Stefan



Re: What is the best (and free) Linux softphone?

2021-05-05 Thread Richmond
Emanuel Berg  writes:

> Dan Ritter wrote:
>
>> They all speak the SIP protocol
>
> OK, what client should I get then?

I use Zoiper on android. They seem to have a debian package available
but I haven't tried it.

https://www.zoiper.com/en/voip-softphone/download/current



Re: What is the best (and free) Linux softphone?

2021-05-05 Thread Dan Ritter
Emanuel Berg wrote: 
> Dan Ritter wrote:
> 
> > If you want more advice, you'll need to tell us what you
> > want to do and what your constraints are.
> 
> communicate my style pretty fast I guess. I'm in Emacs all the
> time, including now with Gnus, in a Linux VT, other than that
> I use tmux in the other ttys, and zsh, but I do use X for
> mpv, xpd and feh.
> 
> No wait, I even have a list:
> 
>   https://dataswamp.org/~incal/SOFTWARE
> 
> So if I could have an interface that would work similarly to
> that (except for mpv etc LOL) - no mouse in particular, don't
> even have one, should get one and play Quake on the projector.
> Ah, sorry, too tired!

OK, you probably want to install linphone-nogtk, which is a 
command line version of linphone.


> What I'd like to do? I have a smartphone,
> 
>   Samsung Galaxy Note 2 LTE GT-N7105 16GB, Android 4.4.2
> 
> Can I call that from Debian? That would be awesome!

Sure. Some Android phones have a built-in SIP client, which
tends to be not very good, but you can install linphone,
sipdroid, zoiper, baresip, lumicall. About half of those are
available on F-Droid.

-dsr-



Re: What is the best (and free) Linux softphone?

2021-05-05 Thread Dan Ritter
Emanuel Berg wrote: 
> Dan Ritter wrote:
> 
> > They all speak the SIP protocol
> 
> OK, what client should I get then?

You could read about those three, and try out any or all of
them.

If you want more advice, you'll need to tell us what you
want to do and what your constraints are.

-dsr-



Re: What is the best (and free) Linux softphone?

2021-05-05 Thread Dan Ritter
Emanuel Berg wrote: 
> Dan Ritter wrote:
> 
> > I'm not sure why you want each VM to have a softphone.
> >
> > Debian packages linphone, empathy and twinkle
> 
> Can you then call other people with those or corresponding
> software or can you call an actual smartphone using some app
> or something?

They all speak the SIP protocol. They can:

- call up other SIP clients. There are SIP clients for
  smartphones, so the answer to that question is "yes".
- including the Asterisk PBX he already installed
- and each other
- if they talk to a PBX which has a public telephone
  interconnection, they can call any phone number that PBX will
  allow, and be registered as extensions from that PBX (random
  telephones can call them back)

So: free VOIP service to anyone who has a SIP endpoint, and 
services which charge money to interconnect with regular phone
systems are available.

Most telephone companies offer SIP to regular phone service and 
vice versa for some price.

-dsr-



Re: Re: Disinuir tamaño de letra en la terminal

2021-05-05 Thread Aristobulo_Pinzón
El 29/4/21 a las 20:12, Aristobulo_Pinzón escribió:
> Buenas tard/ias...
> Con ésto de las paantallas grandes trabajar en la terinal se hace incomodo 
> con los caracteres de gran tamaño que se utilizan en el inicio.
> Cuál script es el encargado de regular el tamaño para ajustarlo a menor?. O 
> algún otro atajo que lo permita!...
> Muchas gracias!...
>
El primer problema que tienes es la terminal, 80x25 a pantalla completa.

si. Pero el menu de inicio si aparece con letra pequeñita como cuando está en 
entorno grafico. 
O sea que en el grub.cfg debe haber una orden   que permite disminuir el tamaño 
de las letras, y luego cuando se inicia el arraque
del sistema cambia a tamaño mayor...
...

Gracias por tu atención...



Re: Bullseye police des menus

2021-05-05 Thread Georges
 Bonsoir,

Le Wed, 5 May 2021 08:58:46 +0200,

DG a écrit :

> Bonjour,
> 
> peut-être trouveras-tu ton bonheur là:
> https://ice-wm.org/manual/ (aller directement à "fonts"
> https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/antix/icewm-menu-font-size-solved-t5456.html
> 
> Je ne me souviens plus si tu as un peu de difficultés à lire
> l'anglais, si c'est le cas la Traduction Google peut t'aider
> https://translate.google.com/
> (tu colles directement l'URL dans le cartouche du texte à traduire)
> 
 Merci de votre aide. J'ai compris que le fichier ~/.icewm/prefoverride
 permet de modifier les préférences prédéfinies.
 J'ai consulté les URLs et "trafiqué" mon icewm en fonction.
 J'ai créé le fichier ~/.icewm/prefoverride et en reprenant et copiant 
 les options du fichier ~/.icewm/preferences je devrais (?) m'en
 sortir, non ?
 Merci encore de m'avoir aiguillé ;-)

Georges

 ps: Pour traduire ma méconnaissance de l'Anglais j'utilise mate
 translate a longueur de journées ;-)



Re: What is the best (and free) Linux softphone?

2021-05-05 Thread Weaver
On 06-05-2021 05:31, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Dan Ritter wrote:
> 
>> I'm not sure why you want each VM to have a softphone.
>>
>> Debian packages linphone, empathy and twinkle
> 
> Can you then call other people with those or corresponding
> software or can you call an actual smartphone using some app
> or something?

https://jami.net/

In the repositories.
Cheers!

Harry.
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Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-05 Thread Emanuel Berg
David Wright wrote:

> Yes, it was an assumption, and perhaps now we shall never
> know. (Sampling the emails didn't appeasr to be an option.)
> We also were not told whether 2757 notifications came in
> over a week, a month, a year, or since openssh-client was
> installed, whenever that was (possibly at installation).

Oh, no, I removed mails all the time, they came at least every
10 minutes or so is what I would approximate from the holster.

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Re: Evolution

2021-05-05 Thread Jerry Mellon
I have been to settings but found no errors. I removed the account and 
reentered it, no change. Still will not connect to internet.   ?

Sent from my iPad

> On May 4, 2021, at 10:26 PM, Liam O'Toole  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 27 Apr, 2021 at 18:49:55 +, Jerry Mellon wrote:
>>   Hello,
>>   I have been using Debian 10 now for about 6 months and all of a sudden
>>   Evolution will not allow me to login.
>>   I am getting a box while Evolution is starting and loading that says
>>   "Please enter the password for @xxx"
>>   an below is my user ID and the password as dots. I reenter the
>>   password(checked at to correctness). The box disappears but returns in
>>   10-15 sec.
>>   I have logged in to my email account from my browser and user id and
>>   password are correct.
>>   Any suggestions as to what to try.
> 
> Evolution uses GNOME Online Accounts. Check that no error is reported in the 
> "Online Accounts" category under "Settings" (assuming the GNOME desktop).
> 
> 



Re: Xorg fatal server error segmentation fault i686

2021-05-05 Thread Richmond
Dan Ritter  writes:

> Richmond wrote: 
>> I installed debian on an old PC i686. I chose the mate desktop. When I
>> tried to log in throught display manager I could not, so:
>> 
>> I closed X down with telinit 3
>> I logged in on the console as root
>> I ran xinit -- :0
>> I switched to a non root user in the xterm window on the display
>> I typed export DISPLAY=:0
>> I ran mate-session
>> X crashed with a segmentation fault
>> 
>> The backtrace is on the console so I cannot cut and paste it. It says it
>> is in Xorg at _start+0x31
>> 
>> What can I do? Perhaps use a different xserver. The display driver is
>> nouveau.
>
> I wouldn't expect that to segfault, but I also wouldn't expect
> it to work -- you did not authorize your non-root user to run in
> that X session.
>
> Try this:
>
> As your non-root user, write a .xinitrc:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> xterm &
> exec mate-session
>
> and then run
>
> startx
>
> Tell us what happens then. If it crashes, let us see your
> /etc/apt/sources.list and anything in sources.list.d/
>
> -dsr-

It crashed. The errors on the console are several fatal errors from
mate-panel, marco, mate-session, and xterm. The xorg log shows a
segmentation fault but I cannot be sure when it happened as the date is
in an inhuman format.

I'll bet it is to do with desktop effects.

Here is the sources.list. There is nothing in sources.d. I don't
understand this file because I installed from the DVD-1, and I am using an
i686. After the installation I commented out the second cdrom line
because it was prompting me when I tried to install software. The first
line was already commented out. During the installation I enabled online
repos so that it would be up to date.




# 

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.8.0 _Buster_ - Official amd64 NETINST 
20210206-10:34]/ buster main

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.8.0 _Buster_ - Official amd64 NETINST 
20210206-10:34]/ buster main

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main

# buster-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports main

# This system was installed using small removable media
# (e.g. netinst, live or single CD). The matching "deb cdrom"
# entries were disabled at the end of the installation process.
# For information about how to configure apt package sources,
# see the sources.list(5) manual.



Re: Xorg fatal server error segmentation fault i686

2021-05-05 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 05 May 2021 18:36:50 +0100
Richmond  wrote:

Hello Richmond,

>package called nvidia-detect for this architecture.

Oops, I'm sorry - you're right - I didn't check properly.

Again, sorry about getting your hopes up.

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Re: Xorg fatal server error segmentation fault i686

2021-05-05 Thread Richmond
Brad Rogers  writes:

> On Wed, 05 May 2021 15:31:25 +0100
> Richmond  wrote:
>
> Hello Richmond,
>
>>01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation NV11
>>[GeForce2 MX/MX 400] [10de:0110] (rev b2)
>
> As mentioned by Greg;
>
> On Wed, 5 May 2021 11:14:44 -0400
> Greg Wooledge  wrote:
>>Or else look for this nvidia detection script that I've heard about
>>in the past, which is supposed to tell you.
>
> The package you'll need is nvidia-detect.  It runs from the command
> line (simply; nvidia-detect) and gives an output which includes a
> recommendation as to which suite of packages to use (i.e. current, or
> one of the legacy packages).
>
> As an example;
>
> brad@earth:~$ nvidia-detect 
> Detected NVIDIA GPUs:
> 07:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation TU116
> [GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER] [10de:2187] (rev a1)
>
> Checking card:  NVIDIA Corporation TU116 [GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER] (rev
> a1) Your card is supported by the default drivers.
> Your card is also supported by the Tesla 460 drivers series.
> Your card is also supported by the Tesla 450 drivers series.
> It is recommended to install the
> nvidia-driver
> package.

I have added non-free contrib to sources but there does not seem to be a
package called nvidia-detect for this architecture. There is such a
package on a laptop I have but that is 64 bit.

I think the driver is this one:

https://www.nvidia.co.uk/Download/driverResults.aspx/1252/en-uk

But I don't want to risk installing it from there.

Certainly I have used an nvidia driver on the PC many years ago with
opensuse but they don't support 32 bit anymore except with tumbleweed
and that doesn't include nvidia driver installation.



Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-05 Thread Emanuel Berg
Greg Wooledge wrote:

> I interpreted it as literally being thousands of instances
> of the *same* file, the one shown in the Subject: header and
> in the original message body.

They were all from iwatch, but they were so many I don't know
if they were exactly the same, and now I don't get any (mails)
anymore. Good :)

> (Also I'd never heard of "monkeysphere" before and didn't
> even know that openssh-client suggested it. So it's been an
> educational thread.)

Yes, thanks everyone :)

I learned something as well, how to delete mails. First see
how many mails there are, say there are 756, then type t 1-756
RET and then hold down q :)

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Re: Re: Buster 10.9 No reconoce impresora.

2021-05-05 Thread Aristobulo_Pinzón


>
>¿Has probado a ejecutar la utilidad como usuario desde el entorno 
>gráfico? ¿CUPS la ve correctamente?
>
>En cualquier caso, prueba a reintalar el paquete de hplip, quizá al 
>actualizar el sistema se haya hecho un lío con los permisos del puerto USB.
>
>Saludos,
>
>-- 
>Camaleón 


Gracias por responder.
Basándome en tu respuesta cambie de puerto usb y la conecte en uno del lado de 
atrás, y logró ser reconocida en instalada para imprimir a través del cable. 
Pero cuando hago la instalación para imprimir a través de wiwfi no se logra 
instalar y presenta el siguiente error:

GET /DevMgmt/IOConfigDyn.xml HTTP/1.1
Host: localhost
User-Agent: hplip/3.0
Content-Type: text/xml; charset=utf-8
Content-Length: 0


Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/hplip/ui5/wifisetupdialog.py", line 754, in 
NextButton_clicked
self.showExitPage()
  File "/usr/share/hplip/ui5/wifisetupdialog.py", line 573, in showExitPage
self.ip, subnetmask, gateway, pri_dns, sec_dns, addressmode = 
self.wifiobj.getwifiotherdetails(self.dev,self.adapterName)
AttributeError: 'WifiSetupDialog' object has no attribute 'wifiobj'
Abortado

Parece que en la actualización algún script de pyton quedo inservible. ( es mi 
torpe opinión)…

Pregunta: Es posible instalar la versión de HPLIP que había antes de 
actualizarse debian a la 10.9?… funcionaba bien!…

Mucha paz para todos.



Re: Problème impression HP Photosmart C4400 avec buster sur armel

2021-05-05 Thread Guilhem Bonnefille
Bonjour,

Merci pour les conseils. J'ai ouvert un bug
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=942055
Sur les conseils du maintainer, j'ai testé différentes versions issues
de Debian Snapshots : https://snapshot.debian.org/package/ghostscript/

Et en attendant un correctif, j'ai forcé l'installation de la version
stretch de ghostscript sur ma buster et ça fonctionne.

Merci encore.

Le dim. 25 avr. 2021 à 19:51, didier gaumet  a écrit :
>
> Je ne pense pas être tout seul dans ce cas: je n'ai pas répondu parce
> que j'ai pas de suggestion pertinente à faire...
>
> Donc, à part un bug (ou autre chose) toujours possible, vraiment au
> hasard: c'est quoi un B3? Est-ce que lors d'un changement de version de
> Debian, des trucs qui marchaient en architecture armel sur du matériel
> armhf voire du matériel arm64 ne se mélangent pas les pinceaux et ne
> faudrait-il pas changer d'architecture Debian installée?
>
>


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Re: faire développer ses photos "facilement"

2021-05-05 Thread Laurent COOPER

  
  
Bonjour
En fait pour faire des livres photos convenablement, il y a une
  autre stratégie. On peut utiliser des logiciels de mise en page
  comme scribus, et ensuite on exporte soit un pdf, soit une image
  JPG par page.
Blurb par exemple accepte les PDF. Pour les autres, on peut faire
  un JPG par page, et on choisit des albums avec un template "1 page
  1 photo pleine page"
Ça fonctionne très bien, c'est autrement plus rapide que 99% des
  logiciels proposés par les fabricants d'album photo à la condition
  de maitriser un tout petit peu scribus.
Et le jour où l'on veut changer de fournisseur, c'est facile,
  puisque l'outil ne change pas
Une remarque : pour pouvoir exploiter pleinement les potentiels
  de ses photos, il ne faut pas accepter les retouches automatiques.
  Mais pour cela, il faut avoir calibré son écran au préalable,
  sinon on risque de très désagréables surprises
Cordialement
Laurent



Le 05/05/2021 à 18:04, Bernard
  Schoenacker a écrit :


  
- Mail original - 


  
De: "Felix Defrance" 
À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
Envoyé: Mercredi 5 Mai 2021 16:26:33
Objet: faire développer ses photos "facilement"

  
  

  
Hello tous,

  
  

  
Je cherche à faire développer mes photos stockées massivement dans
shotwell avec à la clé la création d'un bel album photo familiale...
J'ai utilisé jusqu'à présent le site en ligne de photoservice, mais
je n'en suis pas satisfait.

  
  

  
A moins d'une interface web bien faite (ergonomique) et qui plante
pas, j'exclus ce mode de fonctionnement pour mes futures créations
d'albums
J'ai trouvé un site qui propose un "client lourd" (c-a-d un logiciel
qui s'installe sur le PC): blurb mais uniquement fonctionnel via
wine... 32bits! (je me passe de commentaire), le résultat n'est pas
vraiment probant, y'a des bugs c'est pas utilisable et ça me prend
800MB de librairies 32bits (bon ben je l'ai dit..)
Un peu las de chercher un outil natif Debian ou plus généralement
Linux, je me demande comment vous faites ? par quel fournisseur vous
passer ?
Voilà, merci à tous pour vos retours!
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PGP: 0x46A603D10F04DC57

  
  

Bonjour Félix,


dans la liste des logiciels adaptés pour créer un album 
photo, voici ce qui est disponible actuellement :

cthumb - programme pour réaliser des albums web personnalisables d’images
zoph - gestion et présentation de photos numériques en ligne

album - HTML photo album generator with theme support
album-data - themes, plugins and translations for album

Merci pour ton aimable attention

Bien à toi

Bernard



  




Re: faire développer ses photos "facilement"

2021-05-05 Thread Bernard Schoenacker


- Mail original - 

> De: "Felix Defrance" 
> À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> Envoyé: Mercredi 5 Mai 2021 16:26:33
> Objet: faire développer ses photos "facilement"

> Hello tous,

> Je cherche à faire développer mes photos stockées massivement dans
> shotwell avec à la clé la création d'un bel album photo familiale...
> J'ai utilisé jusqu'à présent le site en ligne de photoservice, mais
> je n'en suis pas satisfait.

> A moins d'une interface web bien faite (ergonomique) et qui plante
> pas, j'exclus ce mode de fonctionnement pour mes futures créations
> d'albums
> J'ai trouvé un site qui propose un "client lourd" (c-a-d un logiciel
> qui s'installe sur le PC): blurb mais uniquement fonctionnel via
> wine... 32bits! (je me passe de commentaire), le résultat n'est pas
> vraiment probant, y'a des bugs c'est pas utilisable et ça me prend
> 800MB de librairies 32bits (bon ben je l'ai dit..)
> Un peu las de chercher un outil natif Debian ou plus généralement
> Linux, je me demande comment vous faites ? par quel fournisseur vous
> passer ?
> Voilà, merci à tous pour vos retours!
> --
> Félix Defrance
> PGP: 0x46A603D10F04DC57


Bonjour Félix,


dans la liste des logiciels adaptés pour créer un album 
photo, voici ce qui est disponible actuellement :

cthumb - programme pour réaliser des albums web personnalisables d’images
zoph - gestion et présentation de photos numériques en ligne

album - HTML photo album generator with theme support
album-data - themes, plugins and translations for album

Merci pour ton aimable attention

Bien à toi

Bernard



Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 05, 2021 at 10:36:53AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> OTOH perhaps monkeysphere has some reason to lock /etc/passwd et al
> during operation. Running strings on its binaries might throw up
> some 'pwd.lock' matches. Or one could inotifywatch the program to
> see how often it is run (unless it's a daemon). Just thinking aloud.

I actually looked for that filename in "strings /usr/bin/sudo" and
"strings /usr/sbin/vipw" before Google told me that it's used by those
libc functions (lckpwdf(3) and its buddy ulckpwdf(3)).

It's a bit odd that the man page doesn't contain the filename.  Usually
you'd expect it to.

> One thing I didn't learn is why .pwd.lock is in /etc/ rather than,
> say, /run/lock/. Perhaps related, why are there dotfiles in /etc/
> anyway. (.git/, .java/, .etckeeper, .gitignore are the others.)
> What are they hiding from?

This predates /run by a long time.

Also, presumably, it wants to be in /etc because that's where the file
that it's paired with lives.  Dot-lock files are usually in the same
location as the files they represent.

Why the dot?  So that it doesn't show up in a casual "ls" and cause a
bunch of n00b questions, obviously.



Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-05 Thread David Wright
On Wed 05 May 2021 at 07:26:34 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 09:32:49PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > It looks reasonable for determining whether your system files are
> > being interfered with. But you just showed one example from the
> > log, which was for the /etc/.pwd.lock lockfile. I assume you don't
> > have 2757 of these but, rather, the names of an assortment of files.
> 
> That's an interesting interpretation.  If that's actually *true*, I
> wish the OP had made that more clear.  I interpreted it as literally
> being thousands of instances of the *same* file, the one shown in the
> Subject: header and in the original message body.

Yes, it was an assumption, and perhaps now we shall never know.
(Sampling the emails didn't appeasr to be an option.)
We also were not told whether 2757 notifications came in over
a week, a month, a year, or since openssh-client was installed,
whenever that was (possibly at installation).

  $ zgrep ':[0-9][0-9] configure ' /var/log/dpkg.log* | sort -k 4 | less
run on this system, which has just passed its first birthday¹, shows
2788 lines, and each must represent a number of modifications to
the directories given earlier (/etc, /[s]bin, /lib). So 2757 looks
small in that context.

OTOH perhaps monkeysphere has some reason to lock /etc/passwd et al
during operation. Running strings on its binaries might throw up
some 'pwd.lock' matches. Or one could inotifywatch the program to
see how often it is run (unless it's a daemon). Just thinking aloud.

> (In which case, removing iwatch will certainly stop the logging, but
> it won't stop whoever is locking and unlocking your passwd/shadow
> files thousands of times, which is something I might care enough to
> investigate -- and is a great reason for installing iwatch, to look for
> such a thing.)
> 
> (Also I'd never heard of "monkeysphere" before and didn't even know
> that openssh-client suggested it.  So it's been an educational thread.)

One thing I didn't learn is why .pwd.lock is in /etc/ rather than,
say, /run/lock/. Perhaps related, why are there dotfiles in /etc/
anyway. (.git/, .java/, .etckeeper, .gitignore are the others.)
What are they hiding from?

¹ alternatives, apt, and dpkg have 5yr log rotation, exim has 10.

Cheers,
David.



Re: Xorg fatal server error segmentation fault i686

2021-05-05 Thread Richmond
Dan Ritter  writes:

> Richmond wrote: 
>> Dan Ritter  writes:
>> 
>> > Richmond wrote: 
>> >> I installed debian on an old PC i686. I chose the mate desktop. When I
>> >> tried to log in throught display manager I could not, so:
> ...
>> >> What can I do? Perhaps use a different xserver. The display driver is
>> >> nouveau.
>> >
>> > I wouldn't expect that to segfault, but I also wouldn't expect
>> > it to work -- you did not authorize your non-root user to run in
>> > that X session.
>> 
>> It crashed. The errors on the console are several fatal errors from
>> mate-panel, marco, mate-session, and xterm. The xorg log shows a
>> segmentation fault but I cannot be sure when it happened as the date is
>> in an inhuman format.
>> 
>> I'll bet it is to do with desktop effects.
>> 
>> Here is the sources.list. There is nothing in sources.d. I don't
>
> Good, we're making progress. Time to chase down Greg's idea,
> which is that you have driver problems.
>
> Answer his questions about lspci and such, and check for the
> installation of
>
> firmware-misc-nonfree
>
> You probably need that for your graphics card, and it probably
> needs a full reboot after.
>
> -dsr-

I managed to get mate working after a fashion by installing mate-tweaks,
then changing the window manager to marco nocompositor. So mate works,
but there was nothing on the panel so I had to add a menu.



Re: Xorg fatal server error segmentation fault i686

2021-05-05 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 05 May 2021 15:31:25 +0100
Richmond  wrote:

Hello Richmond,

>01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation NV11
>[GeForce2 MX/MX 400] [10de:0110] (rev b2)

As mentioned by Greg;

On Wed, 5 May 2021 11:14:44 -0400
Greg Wooledge  wrote:
>Or else look for this nvidia detection script that I've heard about
>in the past, which is supposed to tell you.

The package you'll need is nvidia-detect.  It runs from the command
line (simply; nvidia-detect) and gives an output which includes a
recommendation as to which suite of packages to use (i.e. current, or
one of the legacy packages).

As an example;

brad@earth:~$ nvidia-detect 
Detected NVIDIA GPUs:
07:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation TU116
[GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER] [10de:2187] (rev a1)

Checking card:  NVIDIA Corporation TU116 [GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER] (rev
a1) Your card is supported by the default drivers.
Your card is also supported by the Tesla 460 drivers series.
Your card is also supported by the Tesla 450 drivers series.
It is recommended to install the
nvidia-driver
package.



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Re: What is the best (and free) Linux softphone?

2021-05-05 Thread Dan Ritter
Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: 
> I already have an Asterisk-based FreePBX VoIP IP PBX SIP server
> virtual appliance (VirtualBox).
> 
> I am trying to save as much money as possible as I live in extreme
> poverty in Singapore. My proposed solution is to install many Linux
> virtual machines on my laptop. Each Linux virtual machine will have a
> softphone.
> 
> So my ultimate question is: What is the best (and free) Linux
> softphone available? Do I have many choices?

I'm not sure why you want each VM to have a softphone.

Debian packages linphone, empathy and twinkle

-dsr-



Re: Xorg fatal server error segmentation fault i686

2021-05-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 05, 2021 at 03:31:25PM +0100, Richmond wrote:
> > 1) Identify your video hardware.  Use "lspci -nn" for this.
> 
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation NV11
> [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] [10de:0110] (rev b2)

OK.  This is... a rather old device.


has instructions for three different proprietary nvidia drivers.
The problem is I don't know which one you need.  You may just need
to try all three, one at a time, and see what happens.

Or else look for this nvidia detection script that I've heard about
in the past, which is supposed to tell you.

There are links to lists of supported devices, and yours is listed under
the section that says it's supported by something called the "96.43.xx"
driver, but I do not know how that designation maps to any of the three
different Debian package names for nvidia drivers.



Re: Xorg fatal server error segmentation fault i686

2021-05-05 Thread Richmond
Greg Wooledge  writes:

> On Wed, May 05, 2021 at 08:20:21AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
>> As your non-root user, write a .xinitrc:
>> 
>> #!/bin/sh
>> xterm &
>> exec mate-session
>> 
>> and then run
>> 
>> startx
>> 
>> Tell us what happens then. If it crashes, let us see your
>> /etc/apt/sources.list and anything in sources.list.d/
>
> In addition to this:
>
> 1) Identify your video hardware.  Use "lspci -nn" for this.

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation NV11
[GeForce2 MX/MX 400] [10de:0110] (rev b2)

>
> 2) Check for any missing firmware.  Use "dmesg | grep -i firmware" for
>this.
>

No output.



What is the best (and free) Linux softphone?

2021-05-05 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Subject: What is the best (and free) Linux softphone?

Good day from Singapore,

I already have an Asterisk-based FreePBX VoIP IP PBX SIP server
virtual appliance (VirtualBox).

I do not want to spend so much money on buying physical IP phones.

Recently, I migrated my Fortigate 60D firewall, Huawei E3276s-920 4G
LTE USB modem, FreePBX virtual appliance (on laptop) and 1 unit of
Cisco 7960 IP phone from my home to the community hostel. I cannot
migrate too many hardware to the community hostel even though I have 4
Cisco 7960 IP phones.

As stated earlier, I do not want to spend so much money on buying
physical IP phones.

I am trying to save as much money as possible as I live in extreme
poverty in Singapore. My proposed solution is to install many Linux
virtual machines on my laptop. Each Linux virtual machine will have a
softphone.

So my ultimate question is: What is the best (and free) Linux
softphone available? Do I have many choices?

I am looking forward to your reply.

Thank you very much.

Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming, 43 years as of 5th May 2021, is a
TARGETED INDIVIDUAL living in Singapore. He is an IT Consultant with a
System Integrator (SI)/computer firm in Singapore. He is an IT
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Re: Xorg fatal server error segmentation fault i686

2021-05-05 Thread Dan Ritter
Richmond wrote: 
> Dan Ritter  writes:
> 
> > Richmond wrote: 
> >> I installed debian on an old PC i686. I chose the mate desktop. When I
> >> tried to log in throught display manager I could not, so:
...
> >> What can I do? Perhaps use a different xserver. The display driver is
> >> nouveau.
> >
> > I wouldn't expect that to segfault, but I also wouldn't expect
> > it to work -- you did not authorize your non-root user to run in
> > that X session.
> 
> It crashed. The errors on the console are several fatal errors from
> mate-panel, marco, mate-session, and xterm. The xorg log shows a
> segmentation fault but I cannot be sure when it happened as the date is
> in an inhuman format.
> 
> I'll bet it is to do with desktop effects.
> 
> Here is the sources.list. There is nothing in sources.d. I don't

Good, we're making progress. Time to chase down Greg's idea,
which is that you have driver problems.

Answer his questions about lspci and such, and check for the
installation of

firmware-misc-nonfree

You probably need that for your graphics card, and it probably
needs a full reboot after.

-dsr-



Re: exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 05, 2021 at 05:27:13PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 05 mai 21, 07:46:03, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > 
> > You're using a package that has not yet been converted to systemd.  It's
> > still using an old init.d script, and systemd is performing a conversion
> > on the fly.
> > 
> > The basic start and stop subcommands will work fine, but disable may
> > not work.  It's not clear from the systemd-sysv-generator man page, but my
> > guess is that the auto-generation of systemd units takes place in memory
> > at boot time, and applies to all the init.d scripts that systemd sees.
> > Doing a "disable" after this would only affect the generated services,
> > which are ephemeral and go away when you reboot.
> 
> As far as I recall (but it's been a while since I needed this) 
> update-rc.d is the correct tool and it should even take care of 
> synchronizing state between systemd and sysv-rc.

Hmm.  Well, I suppose it's possible, especially if the OP kept using the
wrong filename (exim vs. exim4).

I still wouldn't care to try it, personally.  Knowing that it's a native
init.d service, I would use the appropriate tools for that.

> In any case, masking should work as the symlink to /dev/null is in /etc.
> 
> systemctl mask exim4.service

That would, of course, prevent "start" and "stop" from working on it in
the future.  Which makes me wonder why on earth the OP wants to disable
exim4 in the first place.

I smell an X-Y problem here.



Re: exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-05 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 05 mai 21, 07:46:03, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> 
> You're using a package that has not yet been converted to systemd.  It's
> still using an old init.d script, and systemd is performing a conversion
> on the fly.
> 
> The basic start and stop subcommands will work fine, but disable may
> not work.  It's not clear from the systemd-sysv-generator man page, but my
> guess is that the auto-generation of systemd units takes place in memory
> at boot time, and applies to all the init.d scripts that systemd sees.
> Doing a "disable" after this would only affect the generated services,
> which are ephemeral and go away when you reboot.

As far as I recall (but it's been a while since I needed this) 
update-rc.d is the correct tool and it should even take care of 
synchronizing state between systemd and sysv-rc.

> To permanently disable the starting of this service, you'll need to
> use the actual sysv-rc techniques (either removing or renaming symlinks,
> or using Debian's weird update-rc.d tool which relies on parsing comments
> inside the init.d script).

In any case, masking should work as the symlink to /dev/null is in /etc.

systemctl mask exim4.service


Kind regards,
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Re: Xorg fatal server error segmentation fault i686

2021-05-05 Thread Richmond
Scrap the previous /etc/apt/sources I forgot I was using ssh into a
different pc.

cat /etc/apt/sources.list
# 

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.9.0 _Buster_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 
20210327-10:50]/ buster contrib main

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.9.0 _Buster_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 
20210327-10:50]/ buster contrib main

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib

# buster-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib



faire développer ses photos "facilement"

2021-05-05 Thread Felix Defrance
Hello tous,

Je cherche à faire développer mes photos stockées massivement dans
shotwell avec à la clé la création d'un bel album photo familiale...
J'ai utilisé jusqu'à présent le site en ligne de photoservice, mais je
n'en suis pas satisfait.

A moins d'une interface web bien faite (ergonomique) et qui plante pas,
j'exclus ce mode de fonctionnement pour mes futures créations d'albums

J'ai trouvé un site qui propose un "client lourd" (c-a-d un logiciel 
qui
s'installe sur le PC): blurb mais uniquement fonctionnel via wine...
32bits! (je me passe de commentaire), le résultat n'est pas vraiment
probant, y'a des bugs c'est pas utilisable et ça me prend 800MB de
librairies 32bits (bon ben je l'ai dit..)

Un peu las de chercher un outil natif Debian ou plus généralement Linux,
je me demande comment vous faites ? par quel fournisseur vous passer ?

Voilà, merci à tous pour vos retours!

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Re: redimensionar particion

2021-05-05 Thread Marcelo Eduardo Giordano



El 5/5/21 a las 07:06, Parodper escribió:

En GParted tienes una opción de «Redimensionar/Mover», botón derecho en
la partición o desde el menú «Partición».

Si en el menú que aparece pulsas en el centro y arrastras la barra de 
la partición podrás moverla de un lado a otro. También puedes escribir 
valores en las partes de espacio libre anterior y posterior, y la 
partición se moverá automáticamente.


Pero ten en cuenta que puede tardar lo suyo, y las particiones tiene 
que estar desmontadas durante el proceso.


Lo voy a probar entonces apenas pueda apagar el sistema. Ya comentaré 
los resultados




Re: redimensionar particion

2021-05-05 Thread Marcelo Eduardo Giordano



El 5/5/21 a las 03:24, Antonio Trujillo Carmona escribió:

Aunque no sea la solución, quiero apuntar que este caso es la gran
ventaja de usar volúmenes lógicos, si los hubieras usado, simplemente
crearías una partición añadirías dicha partición al VG y ampliarías el
volumen lógico,

todo fácil seguro y posiblemente sin necesidad de reiniciar el equipo


Entonces usaré en el futuro particiones lógicas. Ya investigaré un poco mas.

Justo estoy por instalar otro disco

Gracias



Re: redimensionar particion

2021-05-05 Thread Marcelo Eduardo Giordano



El 4/5/21 a las 19:06, Lic. Domingo Varela Yahuitl escribió:
Tu sistema usa o está instalado bajo lvm o btrfs, lo puedes hacer sin 
problema mucho más fácil...



La verdad que no se. Es una instalación de Debian 11 kde.

Estuve leyendo algo y entendí que btrfs es algo distinto a ext4. Si es 
así no lo tengo, porque mis particiones son ext4.


Saludos



Re: Xorg fatal server error segmentation fault i686

2021-05-05 Thread Richmond
Richmond  writes:

> I installed debian on an old PC i686. I chose the mate desktop. When I
> tried to log in throught display manager I could not, so:
>
> I closed X down with telinit 3
> I logged in on the console as root
> I ran xinit -- :0
> I switched to a non root user in the xterm window on the display
> I typed export DISPLAY=:0
> I ran mate-session
> X crashed with a segmentation fault
>
> The backtrace is on the console so I cannot cut and paste it. It says it
> is in Xorg at _start+0x31

I think that was start_

>
> What can I do? Perhaps use a different xserver. The display driver is
> nouveau.

I am currently using icewm manager instead but would rather use Mate.



Re: Xorg fatal server error segmentation fault i686

2021-05-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 05, 2021 at 08:20:21AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> As your non-root user, write a .xinitrc:
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> xterm &
> exec mate-session
> 
> and then run
> 
> startx
> 
> Tell us what happens then. If it crashes, let us see your
> /etc/apt/sources.list and anything in sources.list.d/

In addition to this:

1) Identify your video hardware.  Use "lspci -nn" for this.

2) Check for any missing firmware.  Use "dmesg | grep -i firmware" for
   this.

   If there are any missing firmware files that the kernel wants to use,
   figure out which (non-free) package they're in, install that, and
   reboot.

The OP mentioned "nouveau", which means an nvidia device is in play.  This
means it may also be necessary to install some proprietary nvidia drivers.
We won't know for sure until we know which device it is.



Re: Xorg fatal server error segmentation fault i686

2021-05-05 Thread Dan Ritter
Richmond wrote: 
> I installed debian on an old PC i686. I chose the mate desktop. When I
> tried to log in throught display manager I could not, so:
> 
> I closed X down with telinit 3
> I logged in on the console as root
> I ran xinit -- :0
> I switched to a non root user in the xterm window on the display
> I typed export DISPLAY=:0
> I ran mate-session
> X crashed with a segmentation fault
> 
> The backtrace is on the console so I cannot cut and paste it. It says it
> is in Xorg at _start+0x31
> 
> What can I do? Perhaps use a different xserver. The display driver is
> nouveau.

I wouldn't expect that to segfault, but I also wouldn't expect
it to work -- you did not authorize your non-root user to run in
that X session.

Try this:

As your non-root user, write a .xinitrc:

#!/bin/sh
xterm &
exec mate-session

and then run

startx

Tell us what happens then. If it crashes, let us see your
/etc/apt/sources.list and anything in sources.list.d/

-dsr-



Xorg fatal server error segmentation fault i686

2021-05-05 Thread Richmond
I installed debian on an old PC i686. I chose the mate desktop. When I
tried to log in throught display manager I could not, so:

I closed X down with telinit 3
I logged in on the console as root
I ran xinit -- :0
I switched to a non root user in the xterm window on the display
I typed export DISPLAY=:0
I ran mate-session
X crashed with a segmentation fault

The backtrace is on the console so I cannot cut and paste it. It says it
is in Xorg at _start+0x31

What can I do? Perhaps use a different xserver. The display driver is
nouveau.



Re: exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 05, 2021 at 12:07:29PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> On Tue, 4 May 2021 18:44:12 -0400
> Greg Wooledge  wrote:
> > 
> > Could you kindly tell us what "systemctl status exim4.service" says
> > on this buster machine of yours?  Perhaps your command is turning up
> > one of the automatically converted init.d scripts.  If so, this will
> > be made clear in the systemctl status report.
> 
> ● exim4.service - LSB: exim Mail Transport Agent
>Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/exim4; generated)
>Active: active (running) since Wed 2021-03-31 08:38:00 BST; 1 months
> 4 days ago Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
> Tasks: 1 (limit: 2062)
>CGroup: /system.slice/exim4.service
>└─6453 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m

Yes, that's what I saw on my single buster exim4 system as well.  Note the
"Loaded:" line which shows that this is using a converted init.d script,
and not a native systemd unit.

It also tells you which man page to read, to learn more about the
automatic conversion of init.d scripts into systemd units.  Not that
this man page says very much, but at least it's there.

(Note that it also tells you the full name of the init.d script, in
this case "exim4".  Not "exim".)

> Probably worth mentioning that this is on a Raspberry Pi, the current
> version of RasPiOs (formerly Raspbian) with a default exim4
> installation.

Yes, thank you.  In this case it looks like they haven't changed the
startup configuration from the Debian packages, but you never know.

In the future, please refrain from calling non-Debian systems by
Debian release names.  It just adds another layer of confusion.

> all  configuration for the Exim MTA (v4) ii  exim4-daemon-light
> 4.92-8+deb10u5armhf
> lightweight Exim MTA (v4) daemon

Or they're literally using the Debian packages, and didn't even rebuild
them.

> I have the same service on my main server (stretch) where it is the
> network MTA and also on my sid workstation. Again, I didn't do anything
> to achieve this. Presumably it's using an init.d script, but it
> certainly works to start and stop exim4 via systemctl.

You're using a package that has not yet been converted to systemd.  It's
still using an old init.d script, and systemd is performing a conversion
on the fly.

The basic start and stop subcommands will work fine, but disable may
not work.  It's not clear from the systemd-sysv-generator man page, but my
guess is that the auto-generation of systemd units takes place in memory
at boot time, and applies to all the init.d scripts that systemd sees.
Doing a "disable" after this would only affect the generated services,
which are ephemeral and go away when you reboot.

To permanently disable the starting of this service, you'll need to
use the actual sysv-rc techniques (either removing or renaming symlinks,
or using Debian's weird update-rc.d tool which relies on parsing comments
inside the init.d script).



Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread deloptes
Thomas Schmitt wrote:

> I agree that it is not people-friendly to try preventing the use of a
> video after it was depublicated by state TV. The concept of Depublication
> is technically an unrealistic fiction and also a blow to the payers of
> state TV fees ("Rundfunkgebuehren").
> 
> Given the german judicial principles, the owner (ZDF, as of Michael
> Lange's report here) is obliged to use all reasonable means to enforce its
> legally obliged decision to depublicate the video. So i assume they use
> their copyright claim towards Youtube and others as tool to show this
> reasonable effort.
> 
> I see no indication that the content of the video was the reason for its
> depublication. Such content driven depublication happens from time to
> time, but not silently. Usually it rather enhances the public impact of
> the disliked message.

I understand the general part and partially agree - though it is disputable
if such lows ("Rundfunkgebuehren") are contemporary.
For this specific documentary I do not know, because there are many other
documentaries on YT that are still available.
It is very hard to not slip into conspiracy because even in the documentary
they say that the studies performed by the French Government, VW and Audi
showed that such vehicles become green after 20km and that the media
refused to publish the studies, because it is damageing the image of EVs.

Anyway - I was trying to not download any video I like, but just to bookmark
the link to the video. This story here emerged from the sneaking
dictatorship of big corporations and governments and went off line.

There is definitely less freedom than in 2007. There is more spying,
censorship and aggression from left and right.

As for the HTML5 it is obviously hard to make a parser (there are roughly 2
engines that can handle HTML5 well) so there is also less freedom here.

Hence my conclusion that we enter middle/dark ages of modern world



Re: [sid] efibootmgr not working on linux 5.10.x & LGA1155

2021-05-05 Thread Grzesiek

On 4/10/21 7:52 PM, Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2021-04-08 22:30 +0200, Grzesiek wrote:


On 3/18/21 9:55 PM, Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2021-03-18 21:03 +0100, Grzesiek Sójka wrote:


I noticed recently that efibootmgr stoped working. On all my Sid
machines I get the following:

# efibootmgr
EFI variables are not supported on this system.

But if I run Buster (the same hardware) then everything is ok. So this
is definitely software problem. I also noticed that the
/sys/firmware/efi/efivars
directory is empty.

Not here, and efibootmgr works for me.


Kernel problem? Missing modules?

Perhaps the efivarfs module is not loaded.  I don not have to load
it
manually, though.


The problem seems to be related to 5.10.x kernels & LGA1155 based systems.

1. On laptop based on i5-8250u efibootmgr works fine (all kernel versions)

2. On systems based on LGA1155 socket (i5-2500k, i7-3770):
- kernels 5.10.x: efibootmgr does not work,
directory /sys/firmware/efi/efivars is empty
- kernel 5.8.0-2: efibootmgr woks as expected

On 5.8.0-2 i get:

# lsmod | grep efi
efivarfs   16384  0
efi_pstore 16384  0
efivars20480  1 efi_pstore

There is no efivars.ko in 5.10.x. Maybe that is the problem?


The efivars module has indeed been removed from Debian's 5.10 kernels,
as it had been deprecated in favor of efivarfs for a while.

Which versions of efibootmgr and libefivar1 do you have installed?


The problem persists since several months. Now I have:

# apt-list | grep efi
efibootmgr/unstable,now 17-1 amd64 [installed]
libefiboot1/unstable,now 37-6 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libefivar1/unstable,now 37-6 amd64 [installed,automatic]




Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 09:32:49PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> It looks reasonable for determining whether your system files are
> being interfered with. But you just showed one example from the
> log, which was for the /etc/.pwd.lock lockfile. I assume you don't
> have 2757 of these but, rather, the names of an assortment of files.

That's an interesting interpretation.  If that's actually *true*, I
wish the OP had made that more clear.  I interpreted it as literally
being thousands of instances of the *same* file, the one shown in the
Subject: header and in the original message body.

(In which case, removing iwatch will certainly stop the logging, but
it won't stop whoever is locking and unlocking your passwd/shadow
files thousands of times, which is something I might care enough to
investigate -- and is a great reason for installing iwatch, to look for
such a thing.)

(Also I'd never heard of "monkeysphere" before and didn't even know
that openssh-client suggested it.  So it's been an educational thread.)



Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread Joe
On Wed, 05 May 2021 09:51:59 +0200
"Thomas Schmitt"  wrote:


> 
> But i really do not see any such censoring with the video about
> environmental problems with electrical cars. It was aired and then
> available for two months. Business as good or bad as ever.
> 

Even the WEF are fairly upfront about it:

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/03/the-dirty-secret-of-electric-vehicles/

-- 
Joe



Re: [HS] iptables et fork tail syslog

2021-05-05 Thread David Martin
>Avec tmux je fais un truc dans le genre pour mettre a jour les aliases
> >postfix:
>
> ># split with 10 lines
> >test -n "$TMUX_PANE" && tmux split-window -l 10 ssh "root@${SERV}" tail
> -f /var/log/messages /var/log/maillog
> ># update postfix aliases
> >ssh "root@${SERV}" "postalias $FILE && echo DONE"
>
> >Si ca t'inspire :)
>
> >amicalement
> >patrick
>
> Merci patrick
Mais non ;-)

Je vais chercher.


-- 
david martin


Re: exim update not responding to update-rc.d

2021-05-05 Thread Joe
On Tue, 4 May 2021 18:44:12 -0400
Greg Wooledge  wrote:

> On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 10:14:45PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> > ...and buster. It's exim4.service as stated by:
> >  systemctl --type=service | grep exim  
> 
> According to packages.debian.org[1] there is no such file in any
> package.
> 
> Of course, that's not proof of the nonexistence of such a file,
> because it might have been created by some postinst script.  In
> theory.
> 
> Could you kindly tell us what "systemctl status exim4.service" says
> on this buster machine of yours?  Perhaps your command is turning up
> one of the automatically converted init.d scripts.  If so, this will
> be made clear in the systemctl status report.

● exim4.service - LSB: exim Mail Transport Agent
   Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/exim4; generated)
   Active: active (running) since Wed 2021-03-31 08:38:00 BST; 1 months
4 days ago Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
Tasks: 1 (limit: 2062)
   CGroup: /system.slice/exim4.service
   └─6453 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m


> 
> It would also be helpful to know which of the multiple different exim4
> package sets you're working with. 

Probably worth mentioning that this is on a Raspberry Pi, the current
version of RasPiOs (formerly Raspbian) with a default exim4
installation.

sudo dpkg -l | grep exim
ii  exim4  4.92-8+deb10u5
 all  metapackage to ease Exim MTA (v4) installation ii
exim4-base 4.92-8+deb10u5
armhfsupport files for all Exim MTA (v4) packages ii
exim4-config   4.92-8+deb10u5
all  configuration for the Exim MTA (v4) ii  exim4-daemon-light
4.92-8+deb10u5armhf
lightweight Exim MTA (v4) daemon


> Perhaps this alleged exim4.service
> comes from the -heavy daemon package.  All I can tell you is that on
> the buster system that I checked, which is using the
> exim4-daemon-light package, there is *no* exim4.service, but there
> *is* an init.d script, and systemctl status exim4 shows this plainly.
> 
> [1]
> https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents=exim4.service=exactfilename=stable=any
> 

I have the same service on my main server (stretch) where it is the
network MTA and also on my sid workstation. Again, I didn't do anything
to achieve this. Presumably it's using an init.d script, but it
certainly works to start and stop exim4 via systemctl.

-- 
Joe



Re: [HS] iptables et fork tail syslog

2021-05-05 Thread David Martin
L'intérêt est de lancer un terminal après et non avant, et d'avoir un
terminal qui s'ouvre sur mon tail !
Que ce soit pour des logs applicatifs ou iptables c'est l'idée.



Le mer. 5 mai 2021 à 12:05, Bernard Schoenacker 
a écrit :

>
> - Mail original -
>
> > De: "David Martin" 
> > À: "debian-user-french@lists.debian.org French"
> > 
> > Envoyé: Mercredi 5 Mai 2021 10:55:36
> > Objet: [HS] iptables et fork tail syslog
>
> > Bonjour,
>
> > Je cherche le moyen de lancer un truc du genre à la fin de mon script
> > iptables, mais ça ne veux pas.
>
> > gnome-terminal -e 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' &
>
> > L'un de vous à une idée ou une autre solution pour ouvrir un terminal
> > après le passage des règles ?
>
> > --
>
> > david martin
>
> Bonjour David,
>
> je n'(ai pas du tout compris la raison de vouloir lancer
> une instruction en même temps que "xterm", de plus je ne
> conseille pas du tout d'employer l'extension -f dans tail
> avec un fichier journal qui se rempli d'une façon
> dynamique, la meilleure solution consiste à lancer cette
> instruction :
>
> tail -10  /var/log/syslog |tee extraction-fichier-syslog-$(date+%c) |most
>
>
> merci et bonne journée
>
> @+
> Bernard
>


-- 
david martin


Re: [HS] iptables et fork tail syslog

2021-05-05 Thread Patrick CAO HUU THIEN
Le 05 May 2021 a 12:05:45 +0200, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :

Bonjour David,
> 
> > Bonjour,
> 
> > Je cherche le moyen de lancer un truc du genre à la fin de mon script
> > iptables, mais ça ne veux pas.
> 
> > gnome-terminal -e 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' &

Avec tmux je fais un truc dans le genre pour mettre a jour les aliases
postfix:

# split with 10 lines
test -n "$TMUX_PANE" && tmux split-window -l 10 ssh "root@${SERV}" tail -f 
/var/log/messages /var/log/maillog
# update postfix aliases
ssh "root@${SERV}" "postalias $FILE && echo DONE"

Si ca t'inspire :)

amicalement
patrick



Re: redimensionar particion

2021-05-05 Thread Parodper

O 04/05/21 ás 23:27, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribiu:
> El 4/5/21 a las 18:16, Parodper escribió:

Otra opción es mover las particiones. Yo con el GParted no he
tenido problemas por ahora, pero haz copias de la tabla de
partición y de los discos por si las moscas.

Que sería "mover las particiones". En el Gparted no veo esa opción


En GParted tienes una opción de «Redimensionar/Mover», botón derecho en
la partición o desde el menú «Partición».

Si en el menú que aparece pulsas en el centro y arrastras la barra de la 
partición podrás moverla de un lado a otro. También puedes escribir 
valores en las partes de espacio libre anterior y posterior, y la 
partición se moverá automáticamente.


Pero ten en cuenta que puede tardar lo suyo, y las particiones tiene que 
estar desmontadas durante el proceso.




Re: [HS] iptables et fork tail syslog

2021-05-05 Thread Bernard Schoenacker


- Mail original - 

> De: "David Martin" 
> À: "debian-user-french@lists.debian.org French"
> 
> Envoyé: Mercredi 5 Mai 2021 10:55:36
> Objet: [HS] iptables et fork tail syslog

> Bonjour,

> Je cherche le moyen de lancer un truc du genre à la fin de mon script
> iptables, mais ça ne veux pas.

> gnome-terminal -e 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' &

> L'un de vous à une idée ou une autre solution pour ouvrir un terminal
> après le passage des règles ?

> --

> david martin

Bonjour David,

je n'(ai pas du tout compris la raison de vouloir lancer
une instruction en même temps que "xterm", de plus je ne
conseille pas du tout d'employer l'extension -f dans tail
avec un fichier journal qui se rempli d'une façon 
dynamique, la meilleure solution consiste à lancer cette 
instruction :

tail -10  /var/log/syslog |tee extraction-fichier-syslog-$(date+%c) |most


merci et bonne journée

@+
Bernard



Re: [HS] iptables et fork tail syslog

2021-05-05 Thread Jean-Pierre Giraud
Bonjour,

Le 05/05/2021 à 10:55, David Martin a écrit :
> Bonjour,
> 
> Je cherche le moyen de lancer un truc du genre à la fin de mon script
> iptables, mais ça ne veux pas.
> 
> gnome-terminal -e 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' &
> 
> L'un de vous à une idée ou une autre solution pour ouvrir un terminal
> après le passage des règles ?
> -- 
> david martin
Peut-être lancer le script iptables dans le terminal à partir d'un alias
qui ajoute à la fin la commande que vous souhaitez lancer :
alias commandeiptable='commande_qui_lance_le_script_iptables && tail -f
~/var/log/syslog &'
ou un script qui lance le premier script puis la commande tail ?
Amicalement,
jipege



Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

i wrote:
> > the song "Meine Oma ist 'ne alte Umweltsau" (= "My granny is an old
> > environmental hog"), sung by a children choir

Michael Lange wrote:
> Still seems to be available on yt, though.

Legally it could now be "Zeitgeschichte" (= "contemporary history") and
thus be exempted from the obligation to depublish it.
But since WDR as the copyright owner retracted it, it rather could be due
to the technical unfeasability of depublication.

My best theory is that they have a good media consultant who told them
that any publicly visible attention to this song would start a new wave
of ridiculing the wobbly backbone of WDR.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas



[HS] iptables et fork tail syslog

2021-05-05 Thread David Martin
Bonjour,

Je cherche le moyen de lancer un truc du genre à la fin de mon script
iptables, mais ça ne veux pas.

gnome-terminal -e 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' &

L'un de vous à une idée ou une autre solution pour ouvrir un terminal après
le passage des règles ?


-- 
david martin


Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

i wrote:
> > i really do not see any such censoring with the video about
> > environmental problems with electrical cars.

deloptes wrote:
> But it was on youtube and was removed and I could not find it

I agree that it is not people-friendly to try preventing the use of a video
after it was depublicated by state TV. The concept of Depublication is
technically an unrealistic fiction and also a blow to the payers of state TV
fees ("Rundfunkgebuehren").

Given the german judicial principles, the owner (ZDF, as of Michael Lange's
report here) is obliged to use all reasonable means to enforce its legally
obliged decision to depublicate the video. So i assume they use their
copyright claim towards Youtube and others as tool to show this reasonable
effort.

I see no indication that the content of the video was the reason for its
depublication. Such content driven depublication happens from time to
time, but not silently. Usually it rather enhances the public impact of the
disliked message.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas



Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread Michael Lange
Hi,

On Wed, 05 May 2021 09:51:59 +0200
"Thomas Schmitt"  wrote:

(...)
> The reason for not eternally offering videos for download is in the
> legal framework of german state TV. (In german:
> "Rundfunkstaatsvertrag", now "Medienstaatsvertrag".)
> 
> State run TV collects mandatory fees from all households for the purpose
> of broadcasting radio and TV. When the internet became important for
> publishing, the private german newspaper publishers and TV stations
> objected that the state run TV used those fees for financing a strong
> web appearance. The compromise, which is now law, was the rule that
> videos and audio are publicly available only for a limited time.
>   
> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96ffentlich-rechtlicher_Rundfunk#Engagement_im_Internet
>   https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depublizieren
> 

I know, but that does not really explain why they bother to block
third-party uploads on yt, there are lots of material there hwre they
apparently don't care, like these two quickly collected examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhGC1O0gZNI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnH10TfhkOQ

> We had cases of self-censoring which led to depublication. I remember
> the song "Meine Oma ist 'ne alte Umweltsau" (= "My granny is an old
> environmental hog"), sung by a children choir and produced by TV station
> WDR in 2019. That video was retracted after conservative politicians
> complained about the insult towards their main voter group.
>   https://www.sueddeutsche.de/medien/wdr-umweltsau-kinderchor-satire-1.4738637

Yeah, I remember that one, and particularly its aftermath; is there an
English word for "Realsatire"? Priceless! :-)

Still seems to be available on yt, though.

> 
> But i really do not see any such censoring with the video about
> environmental problems with electrical cars. It was aired and then
> available for two months. Business as good or bad as ever.

Sure, I agree about that. For some reason they care enough to make yt
block the video for Germany, but that has nothing to do with
"censorship". It think it might even be possible that they found enough
factual errors in the film that they prefer to withdraw it.

Regards

Michael

.-.. .. ...- .   .-.. --- -. --.   .- -. -..   .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-.

Vulcans never bluff.
-- Spock, "The Doomsday Machine", stardate 4202.1



Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread deloptes
Thomas Schmitt wrote:

> We had cases of self-censoring which led to depublication. I remember
> the song "Meine Oma ist 'ne alte Umweltsau" (= "My granny is an old
> environmental hog"), sung by a children choir and produced by TV station
> WDR in 2019. That video was retracted after conservative politicians
> complained about the insult towards their main voter group.
>
https://www.sueddeutsche.de/medien/wdr-umweltsau-kinderchor-satire-1.4738637
> 
> But i really do not see any such censoring with the video about
> environmental problems with electrical cars. It was aired and then
> available for two months. Business as good or bad as ever.

But it was on youtube and was removed and I could not find it



Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

Michael Lange wrote:
> Oddly, it seems like the German public TV station ZDF blocked the video
> for Germany due to "intellectual property rights" which are not explained
> any further.

The reason for not eternally offering videos for download is in the legal
framework of german state TV. (In german: "Rundfunkstaatsvertrag", now
"Medienstaatsvertrag".)

State run TV collects mandatory fees from all households for the purpose
of broadcasting radio and TV. When the internet became important for
publishing, the private german newspaper publishers and TV stations
objected that the state run TV used those fees for financing a strong
web appearance. The compromise, which is now law, was the rule that
videos and audio are publicly available only for a limited time.
  
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96ffentlich-rechtlicher_Rundfunk#Engagement_im_Internet
  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depublizieren

We had cases of self-censoring which led to depublication. I remember
the song "Meine Oma ist 'ne alte Umweltsau" (= "My granny is an old
environmental hog"), sung by a children choir and produced by TV station
WDR in 2019. That video was retracted after conservative politicians
complained about the insult towards their main voter group.
  https://www.sueddeutsche.de/medien/wdr-umweltsau-kinderchor-satire-1.4738637

But i really do not see any such censoring with the video about
environmental problems with electrical cars. It was aired and then
available for two months. Business as good or bad as ever.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas



Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread Michael Lange
Hi,

On Wed, 05 May 2021 09:16:55 +0200
deloptes  wrote:

> Michael Lange wrote:
> 
> > now I got curious too.
> > Oddly, it seems like the German public TV station ZDF blocked the
> > video for Germany due to "intellectual property rights" which are not
> > explained any further. Maybe the real copyright holders still hope to
> > earn money by somehow selling their documentary to the audience.
> 
> You are saying you can not open the link (may be better to say watch the
> video) in Germany?!
> But this is not ZDF video - it is ARTE documentary. 
> Please share information. I am sitting in Austria and I can watch and I
> am downloading right now.
> 

as I said, it is blocked in Germany, and according to what yt says it
looks like ZDF holds copyrights for Germany.
My guess is that the film was produced by some third party and the German
copyrights were purchased by ZDF and then passed on to Arte (it is not
unusual that ZDF produced material is actually shown on Arte, there is
obviously some sort of cooperation between those two). Maybe it was even
some sort of international co-production. Personally I don't care enough
to further investigate, you can certainly see the details during the
closing credits.
But all this is really far off-topic here, so i guess this discussion
should better come to an end.
I hope you enjoy the film!

Regards

Michael


.-.. .. ...- .   .-.. --- -. --.   .- -. -..   .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-.

There is a multi-legged creature crawling on your shoulder.
-- Spock, "A Taste of Armageddon", stardate 3193.9



Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread deloptes
Michael Lange wrote:

> now I got curious too.
> Oddly, it seems like the German public TV station ZDF blocked the video
> for Germany due to "intellectual property rights" which are not explained
> any further. Maybe the real copyright holders still hope to earn money by
> somehow selling their documentary to the audience.

You are saying you can not open the link (may be better to say watch the
video) in Germany?!
But this is not ZDF video - it is ARTE documentary. 
Please share information. I am sitting in Austria and I can watch and I am
downloading right now.



Re: [HS] Rogue DHCP

2021-05-05 Thread David Martin
Roo Excuse moi pour ma réponse tardive

Yes ça marche nickel... un coquin qui avait foutu une borne sur note
réseau... et comme
nos admins réseau sont des billes les ornithorynques font le Taf ;-)


Le sam. 10 avr. 2021 à 10:29, steve  a écrit :

> Le 09-04-2021, à 10:05:16 +0200, David Martin a écrit :
>
> >   Steeve, Bravo c'était ça.
> >   Merci beaucoup pour tes lumières ;-)
>
> Et alors, tu as trouvé des serveurs DHCP scélérats sur ton réseau ? :)
>
>

-- 
david martin


Re: Piano live recording

2021-05-05 Thread Rodolfo Medina
David  writes:

> On Tue, 4 May 2021 at 18:17, Rodolfo Medina  wrote:
>
>> I've just bought a Behringer UMC404HD audio interface and want to record
>> live piano by placing two microphones one at the trebles and one at the
>> bass.  Is it better to use mono or omni directional microphones?  In
>> particular, which do you suggest between Bheringer B5 either Behringer C2
>> twins?
>
> Hi. Even though this list is extraordinarily helpful, please don't have
> conversations here that are entirely unrelated to Debian.
>
> You could ask questions about microphone technique on
>   linux-audio-u...@lists.linuxaudio.org
> which is also very helpful with many knowledgeable readers responding.
>
> And I see you were active on that list recently, so perhaps you accidentally
> sent this question to the wrong list?


Thanks.  4 years ago I started the present conversation ("Live recording") and
listers suggested me to get an audio interface.  Now I bought one and resumed
the conversation.  For the particular problem of "multichannel playback" some
listers here suggested me to apply linux.audio.users mailing list.

Cheers,
Rodolfo



Re: [HS] Coffre fort numérique pour documents

2021-05-05 Thread David Martin
Coté hébergeur, vous en avez un à me conseiller ?

Le ven. 9 avr. 2021 à 13:42, Billard François-Marie <
informati...@billard-francois-marie.eu> a écrit :

> pour les aventuriers il y a ceci :
>
> https://ressources.labomedia.org/tomb
>
> François-Marie
> Le 08/04/2021 à 12:07, David Martin a écrit :
>
> Bonjour à tous,
> L'un de vous utilise un coffre fort numérique chez un hébergeur, si oui
> que conseillez vous ?
>
>
> --
> david martin
>
>

-- 
david martin


Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread deloptes
Felmon Davis wrote:

> I got intrigued (and again apologies for my error!) and weird but I
> found it here: .
> 
> I'm pretty sure it's the right video but check.
> 
> also I wonder if the link will work for you.

Cool. This is great help - THANK YOU! Downloading now. And for the future, I
will be downloading all the videos. I have been downloading only from time
to time.

The question remains - was it removed on purpose and why the
Green-Lobby-Trolls have their videos online.

The link works, I am not in China :) thanks again




Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-05 Thread Emanuel Berg
David Wright wrote:

> Myself, I find inotify-tools more useful: I use inotifywait
> in a loop, waiting for a browser to close files in its
> cache. I then examine their filetype and copy the ones
> I want, giving them sensible (timestamp) names. Very useful
> for capturing (typically, live) video.
>
> But I can see the usefulness of iwatch if you're maintaining
> a website or a server farm, as in their examples. (My random
> collection of PCs only constitutes a smallholding.)

Yeah, I'm sure it is a good tool when it works but here
something has gone haywire so better remove it...

-- 
underground experts united
https://dataswamp.org/~incal



Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread Michael Lange
Hi,

On Wed, 5 May 2021 01:06:30 +0200 (CEST)
Felmon Davis  wrote:

> On Tue, 4 May 2021, deloptes wrote:
> 
> > Felmon Davis wrote:
> >
> >> you can view it on youtube (if that's compliant with your principles)
> >> at 
> >
> > this is exactly the problem - the original video is not there, but
> > the one where someone comments on the video is there
> 
> I got intrigued (and again apologies for my error!) and weird but I 
> found it here: .
> 
> I'm pretty sure it's the right video but check.
> 
> also I wonder if the link will work for you.

now I got curious too. 
Oddly, it seems like the German public TV station ZDF blocked the video
for Germany due to "intellectual property rights" which are not explained
any further. Maybe the real copyright holders still hope to earn money by
somehow selling their documentary to the audience.

Regards

Michael


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Re: Bullseye police des menus

2021-05-05 Thread didier gaumet




Bonjour,

peut-être trouveras-tu ton bonheur là:
https://ice-wm.org/manual/ (aller directement à "fonts"
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/antix/icewm-menu-font-size-solved-t5456.html

Je ne me souviens plus si tu as un peu de difficultés à lire l'anglais, 
si c'est le cas la Traduction Google peut t'aider

https://translate.google.com/
(tu colles directement l'URL dans le cartouche du texte à traduire)



Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-05 Thread Emanuel Berg
David Wright wrote:

> might help determine why you installed iwatch.

Oh, so I did?

Well then, I'll just remove it!

-- 
underground experts united
https://dataswamp.org/~incal



Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-05 Thread Emanuel Berg
David Wright wrote:

> $ aptitude why iwatch

i   openssh-client Suggests   monkeysphere 
i A monkeysphere   Suggests   monkeysphere-validation-agent
i A msva-perl  Provides   monkeysphere-validation-agent
i A msva-perl  Recommends liblinux-inotify2-perl   
i A liblinux-inotify2-perl Suggests   iwatch   

> $ zgrep -B1 iwatch /var/log/apt/history.log*

/var/log/apt/history.log.2.gz:Requested-By: incal (1000)

/var/log/apt/history.log.2.gz:Install: openvpn:amd64 (2.5.1-1,
automatic), network-manager-openvpn-gnome:amd64 (1.8.12-2,
automatic), python3-appdirs:amd64 (1.4.4-1, automatic),
dnsmasq:amd64 (2.84-1, automatic), ssh-askpass:amd64
(1:1.2.4.1-10+b1, automatic), pcmciautils:amd64 (018-12,
automatic), librygel-renderer-gst-2.6-2:amd64 (0.40.0-1,
automatic), libnet-cidr-perl:amd64 (0.20-1, automatic),
rygel-playbin:amd64 (0.40.0-1, automatic), easy-rsa:amd64
(3.0.8-1, automatic), network-manager-openvpn:amd64 (1.8.12-2,
automatic), libgupnp-dlna-2.0-3:amd64 (0.10.5-4, automatic),
iwatch:amd64 (0.2.2-9, automatic), agent-transfer:amd64
(0.43-3.1, automatic), apg:amd64 (2.2.3.dfsg.1-5+b2,
automatic), network-manager-openconnect-gnome:amd64 (1.2.6-1,
automatic), packagekit-tools:amd64 (1.2.2-2, automatic),
gnome-software:amd64 (3.38.1-1, automatic),
dbus-user-session:amd64 (1.12.20-2, automatic),
libnss-myhostname:amd64 (247.3-3, automatic),
python3-axolotl-curve25519:amd64 (0.4.1.post2-2+b4,
automatic), libstoken1:amd64 (0.92-1, automatic),
libtype-tiny-xs-perl:amd64 (0.022-1, automatic),
malcontent:amd64 (0.10.0-2, automatic), libnl-cli-3-200:amd64
(3.4.0-1+b1, automatic), librygel-core-2.6-2:amd64 (0.40.0-1,
automatic), librygel-ruih-2.0-1:amd64 (0.40.0-1, automatic),
gnome-software-common:amd64 (3.38.1-1, automatic),
libmoox-late-perl:amd64 (0.100-1, automatic),
apt-config-icons-hidpi:amd64 (0.14.2-1, automatic),
usbguard:amd64 (1.0.0+ds-2, automatic), libmutter-7-0:amd64
(3.38.3-5, automatic), rygel-preferences:amd64 (0.40.0-1,
automatic), python3-transitions:amd64 (0.8.6-1, automatic),
pptp-linux:amd64 (1.10.0-1, automatic),
libio-socket-socks-perl:amd64 (0.74-1.1, automatic),
python3-yowsup:amd64 (3.2.3-2, automatic), ufw:amd64
(0.36-7.1, automatic), libcrypt-x509-perl:amd64 (0.53-1,
automatic), libmalcontent-ui-0-0:amd64 (0.10.0-2, automatic),
libxml-stream-perl:amd64 (1.24-4, automatic),
libmalcontent-0-0:amd64 (0.10.0-2, automatic),
gstreamer1.0-clutter-3.0:amd64 (3.0.27-2, automatic),
xdg-desktop-portal-gtk:amd64 (1.8.0-1, automatic),
python3-dissononce:amd64 (0.34.3-2, automatic),
molly-guard:amd64 (0.7.2, automatic), libsnapd-glib1:amd64
(1.58-4, automatic), libostree-1-1:amd64 (2020.8-2,
automatic), libcolorhug2:amd64 (1.4.5-3, automatic),
resolvconf:amd64 (1.87, automatic), vpnc:amd64
(0.5.3+git20210125-1, automatic), wireless-tools:amd64
(30~pre9-13.1, automatic), colord:amd64 (1.4.5-3, automatic),
software-properties-common:amd64 (0.96.20.2-2.1, automatic),
monkeysphere:amd64 (0.43-3.1, automatic), libgsound0:amd64
(1.0.2-5, automatic), libtomcrypt1:amd64 (1.18.2-5,
automatic), openssh-server:amd64 (1:8.4p1-5, automatic),
libio-multiplex-perl:amd64 (1.16-1.1, automatic),
wireless-regdb:amd64 (2020.04.29-2, automatic), pipewire:amd64
(0.3.19-4, automatic), tumbler:amd64 (4.16.0-1, automatic),
libcheese-gtk25:amd64 (3.38.0-3, automatic),
python3-software-properties:amd64 (0.96.20.2-2.1, automatic),
malcontent-gui:amd64 (0.10.0-2, automatic),
librygel-server-2.6-2:amd64 (0.40.0-1, automatic),
libges-1.0-0:amd64 (1.18.3-1, automatic), squashfs-tools:amd64
(1:4.4-2, automatic), yowsup-cli:amd64 (3.2.3-2, automatic),
tumbler-common:amd64 (4.16.0-1, automatic),
mutter-common:amd64 (3.38.3-5, automatic),
gir1.2-packagekitglib-1.0:amd64 (1.2.2-2, automatic),
libusbguard0:amd64 (1.0.0+ds-2, automatic),
network-manager-gnome:amd64 (1.20.0-3, automatic),
libgee-0.8-2:amd64 (0.20.3-1, automatic), libnma-common:amd64
(1.8.30-1, automatic), network-manager-openconnect:amd64
(1.2.6-1, automatic), gnome-settings-daemon-common:amd64
(3.38.1-3, automatic), libappstream4:amd64 (0.14.2-1,
automatic), libnet-server-perl:amd64 (2.009-2, automatic),
appstream:amd64 (0.14.2-1, automatic),
gnome-software-plugin-snap:amd64 (3.38.1-1, automatic),
network-manager-vpnc-gnome:amd64 (1.2.6-3, automatic),
packagekit:amd64 (1.2.2-2, automatic),
libgnupg-interface-perl:amd64 (1.01-2, automatic),
python3-consonance:amd64 (0.1.3-3, automatic),
network-manager-pptp-gnome:amd64 (1.2.8-3+b2, automatic),
libappstream-glib8:amd64 (0.7.18-1, automatic), libccid:amd64
(1.4.34-1, automatic), lockfile-progs:amd64 (0.1.18,
automatic), apt-config-icons:amd64 (0.14.2-1, automatic),
libtype-tiny-perl:amd64 (1.012001-2, automatic), libndp0:amd64
(1.6-1+b1, automatic), libsub-handlesvia-perl:amd64 (0.016-1,
automatic), gnome-settings-daemon:amd64 (3.38.1-3, automatic),
libteam5:amd64 (1.31-1, automatic), policykit-1-gnome:amd64
(0.105-7, automatic), 

Re: redimensionar particion

2021-05-05 Thread Antonio Trujillo Carmona


El 4/5/21 a las 22:50, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió:
> Hola amigos.
>
> Tengo las siguientes particiones
>
> sda1 /
>
> sin asignar
>
> sda2 swap
>
> sda3 /boot
>
> sda4 /home
>
>
> y quiero reasignar ese espacio "sin asignar" a sda4 que /home. Intenté
> arrancar el sistema desde un live y no puedo asignarlo a esa unidad.
> Debe ser una tontería pero no lo sé hacer.
>
> Gracias
>
Aunque no sea la solución, quiero apuntar que este caso es la gran
ventaja de usar volúmenes lógicos, si los hubieras usado, simplemente
crearías una partición añadirías dicha partición al VG y ampliarías el
volumen lógico,

todo fácil seguro y posiblemente sin necesidad de reiniciar el equipo.




Re: The strange case of sudo segfaulting on exit

2021-05-05 Thread Rich
Followup post:
After further prodding and asking around, the answer turns out to be
"for some strange reason, on some of my systems, sudo/su are mapping a
bunch of additional libraries, including the application library you
were originally playing with (libzfs), so the crashing on exit when
you've overwritten one of the mapped libraries is expected behavior".

While I still would like to know why, precisely, sudo and su are
mapping apparently-unrelated libraries dynamically, this is no longer
surprising behavior, given the discovery that it's mapping in
superfluous libraries for fun.

Thanks to anyone who read the above longwinded writeup,
- Rich

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 12:37 AM Rich  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> reportbug pointed me here because I wasn't sure where to file this
> bug. I'll start by summarizing the observed behavior, and then go into
> more detail below.
>
> If anyone can suggest further debugging steps to take (or where to
> direct a bug report), I'd be grateful. :)
>
> $ sudo -i
> # cp /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1.2.11 /tmp/
> # cp /tmp/libz.so.1.2.11 /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1.2.11
> # exit
> logout
> Segmentation fault
> $
>
> I first encountered this behavior on a Debian bullseye VM running in
> VirtualBox on a non-ECC (Intel Coffee Lake) host. I then created an
> entirely new Debian bullseye VM from install media [1] on another
> ECC-having (Intel Broadwell) host using KVM, and reproduced this
> behavior. So if it's a bug in virtualization software, it's not just
> one implementation.
>
> The segfault in question does not occur if a cp is not performed to
> one of a number of possible library files in /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ -
> it does not appear to be all of them, as I tested with libanl-2.31.so
> and it did not cause a segfault on exit, but I do not know what the
> requirements are.
>
> The behavior in question is not specific to libz.so.1.2.11 somehow,
> that was just a convenient example - I originally encountered this
> when I was iterating on development of a different library by cping
> the recompiled library over and wondering why my sudo cp [...]
> segfaulted after completion. (Said software I was working on has never
> been installed on the KVM VM, so I think it's safe to say that it's
> unrelated to the problem.)
>
> I also reproduced this behavior on a CentOS 8 VM running on the same
> aforementioned VirtualBox host, but not a Debian buster VM on same.
>
> The behavior persists across cold and warm power cycles of the VM.
>
> While experimenting with someone in #debian, I tried installing sudo
> from experimental, and it still died the same way.
>
> I quickly tried building sudo from buster on bullseye, and it still
> dies the same way as well.
>
> "debsums" reports nothing but "OK" on either bullseye VM.
>
> Curiously, "su - root -c 'cp [...]'" segfaults on the VirtualBox VM
> but not the KVM VM.
>
> Thanks,
> - Rich
>
> [1] - debian-bullseye-DI-alpha3-amd64-netinst.iso, if curious