problème démarrage noyau 5.13

2021-07-16 Thread Mahashakti89
Bonjour,

Depuis des années je roule avec un noyau compilé par mes soins et je
n'ai pas vraiment de problèmes. Ça tourne et ça permet de se former.

Mais là avec l'arrivée du noyau 5.13 ça coince   
Démarrage, partitions reconnues mais au moment de rentrer le mot de
passe de la partition cryptée je n'ai pas de clavier disponible sauf
pour utiliser les magic system keys ...

Taper le mot de passe ne donne rien ...

Pour vérifier j'ai crée une seconde partition home non cryptée, modifié
/etc/crypttab et /etc/fstab, redémarré mais le problème reste le même.

Crypsetup ne semble donc pas en cause.

Je suis à la recherche d'une piste  Toute aide sera la bienvenue.

Cordialement

-- 
Lumière de tous les chakras ! ⚡⚡⚡藍 藍藍



Re: Buster+Gnome on Pi4

2021-07-16 Thread Stefan Monnier
pcr [2021-07-16 20:28:01] wrote:
> Yesterday I had good luck with LibreCAD, did a nice drawing without any
> trouble; today, however, I failed to install REDUCE-algebra, because there
> is no version for ARM.  I tried to get the source and compile it myself, but
> that meant installing Subversion, and they don't have an ARM version
> either.

That's weird.  I'd expect `subversion` to be in Debian and to compile
for ARM without any particular problem.

> Today I was unable to get Zoom for ARM;
> I'm beginning to see a pattern :-)

As a general rule, Free Software should work just fine, but proprietary
software will be problematic because they only provide binaries for the
most common platforms.


Stefan



Gnome Panel Doesn't Show Chinese Characters when in Chinese locale

2021-07-16 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
OS: Bullseye, fully updated.

Problem: When logged in Simplified Chinese locale, the date and time are
shown in English.  They are correctly shown in Chinese characters in Ubuntu
20.04.


Re: Montar HD no boot automaticamente com permissão para usuários comuns

2021-07-16 Thread Marcelo Medeiros Soares
Valeu! Ficou ótimo!!

Atenciosamente,

Marcelo Medeiros Soares
Consultor Imobiliário - CRECI nº 8457
Tel.: (71) 9265-8740 / 8887-3953

Visite nosso blog: *www.marcelomsoares.blogspot.com*


Em sex., 16 de jul. de 2021 às 14:16, China  escreveu:

> Boa tarde Marcelo.
>
> Ficou assim:
> UUID=a64d1f28-23af-48f3-8031-82aa116dd956 /home/china/Arquivos ext4
> defaults0 0
>
> Para pegar o UUID do HD usei o comando "sudo blkid" no terminal daí
> foi só copiar e colar no /etc/fstab.
>
> Em qui., 15 de jul. de 2021 às 22:03, Marcelo Medeiros Soares
>  escreveu:
> >
> > Desculpa a ignorância, mas como ficou a linha no seu fstab após
> acrescentar o UUID?
> > Tenho um outro HD e sempre monto ele usando a opção de clicar no
> Nautilus em "Outros locais"... Também gostaria que ele pudesse montar
> automaticamente.
> > Obrigado.
> >
> > Atenciosamente,
> >
> > Marcelo Medeiros Soares
> > Consultor Imobiliário - CRECI nº 8457
> > Tel.: (71) 9265-8740 / 8887-3953
> >
> > Visite nosso blog: *www.marcelomsoares.blogspot.com*
> >
> >
> > Em qua., 14 de abr. de 2021 às 14:03, China 
> escreveu:
> >>
> >> A resposta do Juscelino foi a solução para mim. Eu já tinha criado o
> >> ponto de montagem, mas não funcionou declarando o inode do HD como
> >> antigamente. Coloquei o UID e tá de boa. Obrigado!
> >>
> >> Em ter., 13 de abr. de 2021 às 15:17, Juscelino Cordeiro
> >>  escreveu:
> >> >
> >> > Tenta executar o comando sudo blkid e pegar o uid do disco. Coloca no
> fstab no lugar de /dev/sda5.
> >> > Talvez seja necessário criar a pasta onde vc quer o hd seja montado.
> >> >
> >> > Em ter, 13 de abr de 2021 14:48, China  escreveu:
> >> >>
> >> >> Boa tarde.
> >> >>
> >> >> Instalei um SSD no notebook e o HD mecanico continua na máquina para
> >> >> ser usado como depósito de arquivos. O método que aparece para o
> >> >> acesso é clicar no Nautilus em "Outros locais" e clicar no HD, daí
> >> >> insere a senha de usuário e o HD é montado na pasta
> >> >> /media/$user/UID_do_HD. Não que este método não me atenda, mas quis
> >> >> fazer do jeito que conheço que é incluir a linha de montagem no
> >> >> /etc/fstab:
> >> >>  "/dev/sda5 /home/china/Arquivos ext4 defauts 0 0"
> >> >>
> >> >> Com esta linha esperava o HD montado na pasta "Arquivos" dentro do
> meu
> >> >> /home, mas não funcionou, a máquina nem deu boot alegando violação do
> >> >> journal e parou na tela de manutenção. Só consegui dar o boot após
> >> >> comentar esta linha.
> >> >>
> >> >> No Google tem vários tutoriais ensinando este método e outros como
> >> >> usar a ferramenta "Discos" do Gnome, mas não funcionou para mim.
> Então
> >> >> pergunto: como montar o HD no boot que fique dentro do meu /home com
> >> >> permissões de usuário sem ter de clicar em lugar nenhum e colocar
> >> >> senha para montar?
> >> >>
> >> >> Ambiente Debian stable com kernel 5.10 do stech-backports.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Enviado de um dispositivo móvel
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Enviado de um dispositivo móvel
> >>
>
>
> --
>
> Enviado de um dispositivo móvel
>


Re: Buster+Gnome on Pi4

2021-07-16 Thread pcr
Yesterday I had good luck with LibreCAD, did a nice drawing without any 
trouble; today, however, I failed to install REDUCE-algebra, because 
there is no version for ARM.  I tried to get the source and compile it 
myself, but that meant installing Subversion, and they don't have an ARM 
version either.  Today I was unable to get Zoom for ARM;  I'm beginning 
to see a pattern :-)


On 7/15/21 8:39 PM, Josef Strýček wrote:

Hi,
Debian on Pi4 have disabled 3D acceleration, so it makes desktop slow and  
bugs. It can solve upgrade kernel to 5.10 from buster-backports or if you are 
on bullseye only upgrade.

Good luck, Josef


15. 7. 2021 20:50:46 pcr :


Recently I flashed the 20200210 build of debian to a 128 GB A2 SanDisk
micro sd card and I have been using in in in my raspberry pi.  I
recently lost my desktop to a crash, so I am temporarily relying on the
Pi.  So far it pretty good, about as fast as my old i3 laptop; one bug,
however, is a black rectangle that appears on the middle of my screen
occasionally.  It goes away if I right click-left click, or if I waggle
the mouse pointer over the black rectangle, so it remains usable.  Ill
let you know how it goes.






Re: GPS, logiciels libres et Debian

2021-07-16 Thread sebastien . dinot
Le 2021-07-16 15:18, Denis Fertin a écrit :

> Je ne crois pas que cela ait été mentionne: il est tout a fait possible de 
> faire les mises a jour de cartes open street map / open topo map pour une 
> carte micro sd d' un récepteur GPS Garmin (etrex 30 dans mon cas) sous Debian 
> a partir du moment ou on peut monter la carte SD.

Hum, hum... 

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/2021/07/msg00039.html 

;) 

Sébastien

Re: Nuevo

2021-07-16 Thread Juan Lavieri

Buenas tardes.

El 16/7/2021 a las 7:05 a. m., Debian escribió:

El 15/7/21 a las 13:56, Wilfredo Beyra escribió:
El jue., 15 de jul. de 2021 7:38 AM, Debian 
mailto:javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com>> 
escribió:


    El 15/7/21 a las 08:25, Wilfredo Beyra escribió:
 > Hola:
 > Soy nuevo en Debian. Acabo de instalar un CD co xfce pero no 
sale el

 > escritorio. La instalación se ejecutó sin problemas pero solo
    puedo usar
 > la consola. Por favor alguien que me explique como cargar el
    entorno de
 > escritorio. Gracias.
 > wbey...@gmail.com 
    >


    Buen día y bienvenido.

    Asumo que algo con la consola te defiendes.

    Primero, veremos si está instalado el gestor de escritorio:
    Prueba esta instrucción:
    $ sudo cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager

    Debe resultar en algo como
    /usr/bin/sddm

    Si no es así, ejecuta
    $ apt install sddm
    y luego reinicias el sistema.

    Si sigues sin sesión gráfica, prueba lo siguiente:

    $ sudo apt install task-xfce-desktop  --reinstall

    Esto a verificar la instalación del entorno de escritorio xfce 
completo.

    Luego, reinicia el sistema.

    El Linux tienes que tener dos cosas para usar el escritorio: el
    gestor y
    el escritorio en sí; son independientes e "intercambables".

    Mantenenos al tanto.

    JAP


 > Realmente no se practicamente nada de consola. Se logearme, pero no se
 > apagar ni reiniciar. Estoy leyendo un tutorial que se llama paratorpes.
 > La cuestión es que no se apagar, ni reiniciar el equipo. Lei que el
 > comando para apagar es halt, pero cuando lo escribo me sale que esa
 > orden no existe. Cuando el sistema arranca se queda una pantalla oscura
 > con un cursor parpadeante en la esquina superior izquierda. Cuando
 > presiono Ctrl+Alt+F1 se cambia al modo consola, hasta ahí ok, sin
 > embargo Alt+F7 que debería cambiar a modo gráfico me devuelve a la
 > pantalla oscura con el cursor.
 > Traté con la orden que me enviaste pero entonces me pide password para
 > la sesión, pues la sesión que inicié es de usuario normal, no root.
 > Estos son mis primeros pasos en el mundo del software libre, por favor
 > tenganme paciencia. Gracias por responder tan rápido.
 > Wbeyras
 >


A la pelotita.
Bien.
Vamos más al principio.
Cuando pongas "sudo", te va a pedir una contraseña.


Siempre que lo tenga instalado y configurado Javier, esa es la parte que 
nos falta saber.



Esa contraseña es TU contraseña de usuario normal.
Es una verificación en la que dices que quieres hacer lo que estás 
pidiendo.


La orden de

Apagado:  sudo shutdown now
Reinicio: sudo reboot

Una pregunta bien básica: ¿Qué versión de Debian instalaste y de dónde 
la bajaste?


Y no te preocupes, la primera vez que empecé con Linux, allá por el 
2003... ni foros había.


JAP



Saludos.


--
Errar es de humanos, pero es mas humano culpar a los demás



Re: Montar HD no boot automaticamente com permissão para usuários comuns

2021-07-16 Thread China
Boa tarde Marcelo.

Ficou assim:
UUID=a64d1f28-23af-48f3-8031-82aa116dd956 /home/china/Arquivos ext4
defaults0 0

Para pegar o UUID do HD usei o comando "sudo blkid" no terminal daí
foi só copiar e colar no /etc/fstab.

Em qui., 15 de jul. de 2021 às 22:03, Marcelo Medeiros Soares
 escreveu:
>
> Desculpa a ignorância, mas como ficou a linha no seu fstab após acrescentar o 
> UUID?
> Tenho um outro HD e sempre monto ele usando a opção de clicar no Nautilus em 
> "Outros locais"... Também gostaria que ele pudesse montar automaticamente.
> Obrigado.
>
> Atenciosamente,
>
> Marcelo Medeiros Soares
> Consultor Imobiliário - CRECI nº 8457
> Tel.: (71) 9265-8740 / 8887-3953
>
> Visite nosso blog: *www.marcelomsoares.blogspot.com*
>
>
> Em qua., 14 de abr. de 2021 às 14:03, China  escreveu:
>>
>> A resposta do Juscelino foi a solução para mim. Eu já tinha criado o
>> ponto de montagem, mas não funcionou declarando o inode do HD como
>> antigamente. Coloquei o UID e tá de boa. Obrigado!
>>
>> Em ter., 13 de abr. de 2021 às 15:17, Juscelino Cordeiro
>>  escreveu:
>> >
>> > Tenta executar o comando sudo blkid e pegar o uid do disco. Coloca no 
>> > fstab no lugar de /dev/sda5.
>> > Talvez seja necessário criar a pasta onde vc quer o hd seja montado.
>> >
>> > Em ter, 13 de abr de 2021 14:48, China  escreveu:
>> >>
>> >> Boa tarde.
>> >>
>> >> Instalei um SSD no notebook e o HD mecanico continua na máquina para
>> >> ser usado como depósito de arquivos. O método que aparece para o
>> >> acesso é clicar no Nautilus em "Outros locais" e clicar no HD, daí
>> >> insere a senha de usuário e o HD é montado na pasta
>> >> /media/$user/UID_do_HD. Não que este método não me atenda, mas quis
>> >> fazer do jeito que conheço que é incluir a linha de montagem no
>> >> /etc/fstab:
>> >>  "/dev/sda5 /home/china/Arquivos ext4 defauts 0 0"
>> >>
>> >> Com esta linha esperava o HD montado na pasta "Arquivos" dentro do meu
>> >> /home, mas não funcionou, a máquina nem deu boot alegando violação do
>> >> journal e parou na tela de manutenção. Só consegui dar o boot após
>> >> comentar esta linha.
>> >>
>> >> No Google tem vários tutoriais ensinando este método e outros como
>> >> usar a ferramenta "Discos" do Gnome, mas não funcionou para mim. Então
>> >> pergunto: como montar o HD no boot que fique dentro do meu /home com
>> >> permissões de usuário sem ter de clicar em lugar nenhum e colocar
>> >> senha para montar?
>> >>
>> >> Ambiente Debian stable com kernel 5.10 do stech-backports.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Enviado de um dispositivo móvel
>> >>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Enviado de um dispositivo móvel
>>


-- 

Enviado de um dispositivo móvel



Re: [OT] Selling beer (was: Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names])

2021-07-16 Thread Charlie Gibbs

On Thu Jul 15 12:42:45 2021 Andrei POPESCU 
wrote:

> On Mi, 14 iul 21, 08:02:19, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> On Tue Jul 13 16:50:38 2021 Michael Lange 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 21:25:17 +0100
>>> Joe  wrote:
>>>
>>> (...)
>>>
 Back when we had TV advertisements
 for beer, it was always the rubbish beers that got the publicity.
>>>
>>> here (Germany) we still have those TV ads for beer, and I can assure
>>> you that the advertised brands (its not up to me to decide whether
>>> they are rubbish or not) are the ones that are available virtually
>>> everywhere, so I believe that it is safe to assume that they are
>>> also the brands that sell.
>>> So yes, unfortunately at least in some cases advertisements
>>> apparently pay.
>>
>> If they didn't pay, companies would have stopped sinking vast amounts
>> of effort and expense into them a century ago.
>
> You're giving (big) companies a lot of credit, possibly unwarranted:
>
> Does Advertising Actually Work? (Part 1: TV) (Ep. 440)
> https://freakonomics.com/podcast/advertising-part-1/
>
> Does Advertising Actually Work? (Part 2: Digital) (Ep. 441)
> https://freakonomics.com/podcast/advertising-part-2/
>
> (the links contain the transcripts as well, for those who prefer
> reading)

Thanks for the links (extra points for them being available as text).
Money might reign supreme, but there's nothing like a good management
fantasy to push profits into second place.

I particularly like the part where the interviewee tried to pretend
he couldn't hear the interviewer when he got backed into a corner.

--
/~\  Charlie Gibbs  |  Microsoft is a dictatorship.
\ /|  Apple is a cult.
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus |  Linux is anarchy.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  Pick your poison.



Re: How do I mount the USB stick containing the installer in Rescue Mode?

2021-07-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 10:17:45AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 16 Jul 2021 at 07:31:41 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 11:43:15PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > > I presume you type /etc/fstab into your post, both because of the
> > > missing # for the comment, and because the /dev/sr0 line has too
> > > many fields. It should contain   udf,iso9660 user,noauto
> > > without spaces after the commas.
> > 
> > The space between iso9660 and user should *also* be a comma.
> 
> Eh? Attached is the virgin fstab from my experimental encrypted root
> installation. I think it's self-evident why there's a space separating
> the two alternative filesystem types from the mount options.

Ah.  My mistake.

Looking at my own (Debian generated) fstab file now, I see the same
thing on the /dev/sr0 line.  The type and options fields are separated
by only one space, and it looks really weird, especially when all the
lines before that have several spaces between those two fields.



Re: GPS, logiciels libres et Debian

2021-07-16 Thread Alexandre Garreau
Le jeudi 15 juillet 2021, 19:53:27 CEST k6dedi...@free.fr a écrit :
> Bonjour Alexandre,
> Il se peut que l'article que j'ai lu rapidement ait été l'objet d'une
> erreur de traduction. Toutefois, ce n'est pas parce-que nous sommes 8
> milliards qu'il ne devrait y avoir que 8 milliards d'appareils.
> Certains ont 2 portables, nos armées sont équipées de Galliléo pour
> être indépendantes, les routiers ont des systèmes embarqués, l'aviation
> civile a aussi des systèmes embarqués, les pêcheurs, etc.

C’est vrai, c’est une bonne réflexion, en revanche les GPS ne me semblent 
pas assez répandus pour faire 1000 appareils par humain sur terre… 
d’autant plus qu’on disait « utilisateurs » pas « appareils » dans le 
compte u.u



Re: How do I mount the USB stick containing the installer in Rescue Mode?

2021-07-16 Thread David Wright
On Fri 16 Jul 2021 at 07:31:41 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 11:43:15PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > I presume you type /etc/fstab into your post, both because of the
> > missing # for the comment, and because the /dev/sr0 line has too
> > many fields. It should contain   udf,iso9660 user,noauto
> > without spaces after the commas.
> 
> The space between iso9660 and user should *also* be a comma.

Eh? Attached is the virgin fstab from my experimental encrypted root
installation. I think it's self-evident why there's a space separating
the two alternative filesystem types from the mount options.

> The
> original post was a mess, and I agree, she probably typed it by
> hand (with multiple errors -- *all* of the comments were missing their
> pound signs, for instance, not just the one you mentioned).

Yes, should have pointed it out. At first reading, I assumed they'd
missed the first character when dragging the mouse, but on rereading,
I saw the other errors, and corrected only those. Of course, there'd
be no mouse pointer to drag in Rescue, so you really can only
transcribe or photograph the text.

> Anyway, this thread has gone on for a ridiculously long time.  She
> just needs to identify the correct device name, and create a new
> directory in which to mount it.

AIUI the device /dev/sdb1 is already mounted. However, by selecting
"execute shell in /d/m/sda-whatsit", the /cdrom mountpoint gets
hidden in the Alt-F1 shell.

> It's sad that people always somehow think they need to use existing
> directories for their mount points.  You can just "mkdir /stella" and
> use that, and voila -- no conflicts.  It's an ephemeral system, so you
> aren't even "polluting" a "pristine" root file system with your new
> directory.  It's all temporary.

Been there, done that. Strictly, the answer to the Subject line is:
"You don't. It's already mounted. It's on /cdrom." Unfortunately,
the other two shells weren't obvious to the OP (or, perhaps, to
anyone else who replied).

Taking a step back, I would have wished that the OP could have booted
the installed system and fixed Grub from there, and never opened this
new topic at all.

Having taken this step back, I see that it hasn't been mentioned that
one of the menu alternatives to "execute shell in /d/m/sda-whatsit"
is "Reinstall Grub". I'm not inclined to go there, as I've been
learning about this Rescue business on a system with a perfectly good
Grub installation that I'm happy to copy bits out of but not change.

Taking two steps back, and looking at the thread "How do I get back
the GRUB menu with the blue background?", I'm at a loss to know why
nobody else has posted what the Grub commands are to boot a system
with encrypted root *and* LVM. (Actually I think it's an encrypted
partition with LVM inside it.) I've posted how to boot a system with
an encrypted root filesystem using raw Grub commands so they can fix
up Grub, but I can't help with their LVM, never having used it.

So many people here say, "Use LVM", "You should be using LVM", "LVM
should be the mainstream default". And yet, no replies are forthcoming.

Cheers,
David.
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
# device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
# that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# systemd generates mount units based on this file, see systemd.mount(5).
# Please run 'systemctl daemon-reload' after making changes here.
#
#
/dev/mapper/sda5_crypt /   ext4errors=remount-ro 0   1
# /boot was on /dev/sda2 during installation
UUID=700b607c-ffa6-4435-a4b6-10894928c764 /boot   ext2defaults  
  0   2
/dev/sr0/media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0


Re: GPS, logiciels libres et Debian

2021-07-16 Thread Denis Fertin
Bonjour,

Je ne crois pas que cela ait été mentionne: il est tout a fait possible de
faire les mises a jour de cartes open street map / open topo map pour une
carte micro sd d’ un récepteur GPS Garmin (etrex 30 dans mon cas) sous
Debian a partir du moment ou on peut monter la carte SD.
Idem pour le téléchargement de trace d’internet a la carte SD.

Les récepteurs GPS dédiés a la randonnée utilise des puces GPS n’utilisant
que les informations de la constellation GPS ( donnant la position des
satellites) alors que les puces GPS des smartphones utilisent le mode
Assisted GPS et reçoivent  les informations nécessaires a la localisation a
partir du réseau Mobile.
Pas sur que toutes les puces GPS de tous les smartphones fonctionnent sans
réseau.

Perso, je recommande un récepteur GPS dédié parce que:
- c’est plus solide
- la conso est optimisée pour cela et c’est facile d’avoir un jeu de piles
de rechange dans le sac,
- le téléphone doit rester charge dans le sac pour appeler les secours si
possible au cas ou.

Les cartes open topo map sont suffisantes pour randonnées en plaine et
suivi de traces GPS.
En montagne, il faut avoir la carte IGN et savoir faire la topo sans GPS.
(La topo sans GPS c’est un peu comme un ordi sans windows avec linux: c’est
plus complique mais on comprend mieux ce qu’on fait et on y prend plaisir).

Cdt

Le ven. 16 juil. 2021 à 09:42, François Patte <
francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr> a écrit :

> Le 09/07/2021 à 12:29, kaliderus a écrit :
> > Bonjour,
> >
> > J'envisage l'achat d'un GPS (voiture/moto/bateau donc étanche).
> > Avez-vous des recommandations, tuyaux, marques à conseiller ou éviter,
> > et qui idéalement me permettraient de faire des mise à jour des cartes
> > sous Debian ?
> > Actuellement nous avons un Garmin qui commence à dater, et nous devons
> > passer par leur outil pour les mises à jour, un vieux pc M$ s'en
> > charge, jusqu'au jour où l'outil ne sera plus maintenu ...
> > La cartographie devrait contenir l'Europe entière.
>
> OsmAnd(+) ?
>
> Fonctionne sur smartphones et tablettes, uniquement GPS (pas de
> dépendance téléphonique)
>
> Carte OpenStreetMap (pas de google...)
>
> Y a-t-il la mer? Je ne sais pas, les côtes en tous cas.
>
>
> --
> François Patte
> UFR de mathématiques et informatique
> Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
> Université Paris Descartes
> 45, rue des Saints Pères
> F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
> Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
> http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
> FSF
>
> https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/presenting-shoetool-happy-holidays-from-the-fsf
>
> --

Denis Fertin


Re: How do I mount the USB stick containing the installer in Rescue Mode?

2021-07-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 11:43:15PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> I presume you type /etc/fstab into your post, both because of the
> missing # for the comment, and because the /dev/sr0 line has too
> many fields. It should contain   udf,iso9660 user,noauto
> without spaces after the commas.

The space between iso9660 and user should *also* be a comma.  The
original post was a mess, and I agree, she probably typed it by
hand (with multiple errors -- *all* of the comments were missing their
pound signs, for instance, not just the one you mentioned).

Anyway, this thread has gone on for a ridiculously long time.  She
just needs to identify the correct device name, and create a new
directory in which to mount it.

It's sad that people always somehow think they need to use existing
directories for their mount points.  You can just "mkdir /stella" and
use that, and voila -- no conflicts.  It's an ephemeral system, so you
aren't even "polluting" a "pristine" root file system with your new
directory.  It's all temporary.



Re: Nuevo

2021-07-16 Thread Debian

El 15/7/21 a las 13:56, Wilfredo Beyra escribió:
El jue., 15 de jul. de 2021 7:38 AM, Debian 
mailto:javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com>> 
escribió:


El 15/7/21 a las 08:25, Wilfredo Beyra escribió:
 > Hola:
 > Soy nuevo en Debian. Acabo de instalar un CD co xfce pero no sale el
 > escritorio. La instalación se ejecutó sin problemas pero solo
puedo usar
 > la consola. Por favor alguien que me explique como cargar el
entorno de
 > escritorio. Gracias.
 > wbey...@gmail.com 
>


Buen día y bienvenido.

Asumo que algo con la consola te defiendes.

Primero, veremos si está instalado el gestor de escritorio:
Prueba esta instrucción:
$ sudo cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager

Debe resultar en algo como
/usr/bin/sddm

Si no es así, ejecuta
$ apt install sddm
y luego reinicias el sistema.

Si sigues sin sesión gráfica, prueba lo siguiente:

$ sudo apt install task-xfce-desktop  --reinstall

Esto a verificar la instalación del entorno de escritorio xfce completo.
Luego, reinicia el sistema.

El Linux tienes que tener dos cosas para usar el escritorio: el
gestor y
el escritorio en sí; son independientes e "intercambables".

Mantenenos al tanto.

JAP


> Realmente no se practicamente nada de consola. Se logearme, pero no se
> apagar ni reiniciar. Estoy leyendo un tutorial que se llama paratorpes.
> La cuestión es que no se apagar, ni reiniciar el equipo. Lei que el
> comando para apagar es halt, pero cuando lo escribo me sale que esa
> orden no existe. Cuando el sistema arranca se queda una pantalla oscura
> con un cursor parpadeante en la esquina superior izquierda. Cuando
> presiono Ctrl+Alt+F1 se cambia al modo consola, hasta ahí ok, sin
> embargo Alt+F7 que debería cambiar a modo gráfico me devuelve a la
> pantalla oscura con el cursor.
> Traté con la orden que me enviaste pero entonces me pide password para
> la sesión, pues la sesión que inicié es de usuario normal, no root.
> Estos son mis primeros pasos en el mundo del software libre, por favor
> tenganme paciencia. Gracias por responder tan rápido.
> Wbeyras
>


A la pelotita.
Bien.
Vamos más al principio.
Cuando pongas "sudo", te va a pedir una contraseña.
Esa contraseña es TU contraseña de usuario normal.
Es una verificación en la que dices que quieres hacer lo que estás pidiendo.

La orden de

Apagado:  sudo shutdown now
Reinicio: sudo reboot

Una pregunta bien básica: ¿Qué versión de Debian instalaste y de dónde 
la bajaste?


Y no te preocupes, la primera vez que empecé con Linux, allá por el 
2003... ni foros había.


JAP



Re: Failure to use 3840x2160 30hz with Intel 620 chipset

2021-07-16 Thread Pierre Couderc



On 7/16/21 9:52 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

Pierre Couderc composed on 2021-07-16 08:34 (UTC+0200):


Before reporting a bug, maybe it could be too a question of driver...?



There are two X drivers for Intel IGPs capable at least theoretically of
supporting 3840x2160:

Intel DDX, provided by xserver-xorg-video-intel
Modesetting DIX, provided by xserver-xorg-core

The Intel driver has been essentially in maintenance mode for the past 7 years,
its main reason for keeping it maintained being it is the only driver available
supporting ancient Intel IGPs. The only way to tell if it works better on newer
hardware is to try it. Don't expect much from anything as new as yours using the
Intel DDX instead of the Modesetting DIX.

Either of the two drivers can be specifically selected via a .conf file in
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, e.g., assuming xserver-xorg-video-intel is installed:

# file: 15-ddxdrv.conf
Section "Device"
  Identifier "DDX"
Driver "intel"
#   Driver "modesetting"
EndSection

selects the Intel DDX, blocking X from attempting use of the Modesetting DIX.


I have tried intel driver which does not work but does not crashes.

I come back to "modesetting" driver.



Aide programme en python

2021-07-16 Thread Georges
Bonjour,

J’utilisais Paprass (GED de https://bipede.fr/contrib/paprass-5-65/ )
sans problème sous Linux Debian Bullseye, mais … je viens de changer de
Scanner. Le nouveau n’étant pas reconnu et scanner.cfg conservant la
configuration de l’ancien, j’ai refait une installation (en mettant à
l’abri les données enregistrées auparavant) sans sucés.
En console :
~/Paprass$ python3 paprass.py /home/moi/Paprass/paprass.py:65:
DeprecationWarning: an integer is required (got type float). Implicit
conversion to integers using __int__ is deprecated, and may be removed
in a future version of Python. self.resize(width, height)
/home/moi/Paprass/paprass.py:66: DeprecationWarning: an integer is
required (got type float). Implicit conversion to integers using
__int__ is deprecated, and may be removed in a future version of
Python. self.move(posX, posY) Traceback (most recent call last): File «
/home/moi/Paprass/paprass.py », line 242, in onScan scan =
scanner.getScanner(self, cfg) File « /home/moi/Paprass/scanner.py »,
line 102, in getScanner dlg = InitScanner(QCoreApplication.translate(«
scanner », « Choice of scanner »), listeScanners) TypeError: __init__()
missing 1 required positional argument: ‘devices’ Abandon

  J'ai demandé de l'aide l'auteur (bipède) mais il est hospitalisé
  et donc pas en situation d'analyser son programme.

  Dommage s'il ne peu plus maintenir ce petit bijou.

  Un spécialiste python pour aider les utilisateurs ?
  Un grand merci d'avance

-- 
 Georgesdebian depuis Potato




Re: Failure to use 3840x2160 30hz with Intel 620 chipset

2021-07-16 Thread Felix Miata
Pierre Couderc composed on 2021-07-16 08:34 (UTC+0200):

> Before reporting a bug, maybe it could be too a question of driver...?


There are two X drivers for Intel IGPs capable at least theoretically of
supporting 3840x2160:

Intel DDX, provided by xserver-xorg-video-intel
Modesetting DIX, provided by xserver-xorg-core

The Intel driver has been essentially in maintenance mode for the past 7 years,
its main reason for keeping it maintained being it is the only driver available
supporting ancient Intel IGPs. The only way to tell if it works better on newer
hardware is to try it. Don't expect much from anything as new as yours using the
Intel DDX instead of the Modesetting DIX.

Either of the two drivers can be specifically selected via a .conf file in
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, e.g., assuming xserver-xorg-video-intel is installed:

# file: 15-ddxdrv.conf
Section "Device"
  Identifier "DDX"
Driver "intel"
#   Driver "modesetting"
EndSection

selects the Intel DDX, blocking X from attempting use of the Modesetting DIX.
-- 
Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
based on faith, not based on science.

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata



Re: GPS, logiciels libres et Debian

2021-07-16 Thread François Patte

Le 09/07/2021 à 12:29, kaliderus a écrit :

Bonjour,

J'envisage l'achat d'un GPS (voiture/moto/bateau donc étanche).
Avez-vous des recommandations, tuyaux, marques à conseiller ou éviter,
et qui idéalement me permettraient de faire des mise à jour des cartes
sous Debian ?
Actuellement nous avons un Garmin qui commence à dater, et nous devons
passer par leur outil pour les mises à jour, un vieux pc M$ s'en
charge, jusqu'au jour où l'outil ne sera plus maintenu ...
La cartographie devrait contenir l'Europe entière.


OsmAnd(+) ?

Fonctionne sur smartphones et tablettes, uniquement GPS (pas de 
dépendance téléphonique)


Carte OpenStreetMap (pas de google...)

Y a-t-il la mer? Je ne sais pas, les côtes en tous cas.


--
François Patte
UFR de mathématiques et informatique
Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
Université Paris Descartes
45, rue des Saints Pères
F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
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Re: Failure to use 3840x2160 30hz with Intel 620 chipset

2021-07-16 Thread Pierre Couderc



On 7/16/21 8:31 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote:


On 7/12/21 10:11 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

Felix Miata composed on 2021-07-10 18:29 (UTC-0400):

I only had a 4K display for 3 weeks 3 years ago, so it's hard for me 
to be very
helpful by trying to match behavior, or construct a configuration 
file free of

errors.


I forgot something important to this thread. I got a broken 55" 4K LG TV
for free 8 weeks ago. I spent $40US on parts to fix it.

I just tried connecting it to a Kaby Lake Intel PC (HD 620, not UHD 620)
via direct HDMI, along with an ordinary 1920x1080 Samsung HDTV via 
DisplayPort
to HDMI adapter, using openSUSE 15.2. With only the LG connected, X 
opened up
in 3840x2160@30 automatically. With both connected, both come up in 
1920x1080@60.
However, xrandr --output HDMI-2 --primary --mode 3840x2160 --output 
DP-1 --mode 1920x1080 --above HDMI-2
worked a charm to set 3840x2160@30 on the LG and set the small 
Samsung above

the big LG.

Rebooting to Bullseye to try the same, I can't get the Samsung HDTV 
out of
unsupported mode, even though xrandr reports the Samsung is using its 
native
mode, or trying with any other supported mode selected. This smells 
like a

Bullseye bug waiting to be reported.

Next I tried openSUSE Tumbleweed. It works as expected there too:
# xrandr --output HDMI-2 --primary --mode 3840x2160 --output DP-1 
--mode 1920x1080 --above HDMI-2

# xrandr | egrep 'onnect|creen|\*' | grep -v disconn | sort -r
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3840 x 3240, maximum 16384 x 16384
HDMI-2 connected primary 3840x2160+0+1080 (normal left inverted right 
x axis y axis) 1600mm x 900mm
DP-1 connected 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y 
axis) 160mm x 90mm

    3840x2160 30.00*   25.00    24.00    29.97    23.98
    1920x1080 60.00*+  59.94    30.00    24.00    29.97 23.98
# inxi -SGay
System:
   Host: ab250 Kernel: 5.12.9-1-default x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc 
v: 11.1.1

   parameters:...
   Desktop: Trinity R14.0.10 tk: Qt 3.5.0 info: kicker wm: Twin 3.0 
vt: 7

   dm: TDM Distro: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20210611
Graphics:
   Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 630 vendor: ASUSTeK driver: i915 v: 
kernel

   bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:5912 class-ID: 0300
   Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: modesetting
   unloaded: fbdev,vesa alternate: intel display-ID: :0 screens: 1
   Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x3240 s-dpi: 144 s-size: 678x572mm 
(26.7x22.5")

   s-diag: 887mm (34.9")
   Monitor-1: DP-1 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 305 size: 160x90mm 
(6.3x3.5")

   diag: 184mm (7.2")
   Monitor-2: HDMI-2 res: 3840x2160 hz: 30 dpi: 61
   size: 1600x900mm (63.0x35.4") diag: 1836mm (72.3")
   OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 630 (KBL GT2)
   v: 4.6 Mesa 21.1.2 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes



Before reporting a bug, maybe it could be too a question of driver...?



Re: Failure to use 3840x2160 30hz with Intel 620 chipset

2021-07-16 Thread Pierre Couderc



On 7/12/21 10:11 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

Felix Miata composed on 2021-07-10 18:29 (UTC-0400):


I only had a 4K display for 3 weeks 3 years ago, so it's hard for me to be very
helpful by trying to match behavior, or construct a configuration file free of
errors.



I forgot something important to this thread. I got a broken 55" 4K LG TV
for free 8 weeks ago. I spent $40US on parts to fix it.

I just tried connecting it to a Kaby Lake Intel PC (HD 620, not UHD 620)
via direct HDMI, along with an ordinary 1920x1080 Samsung HDTV via DisplayPort
to HDMI adapter, using openSUSE 15.2. With only the LG connected, X opened up
in 3840x2160@30 automatically. With both connected, both come up in 
1920x1080@60.
However, xrandr --output HDMI-2 --primary --mode 3840x2160 --output DP-1 --mode 
1920x1080 --above HDMI-2
worked a charm to set 3840x2160@30 on the LG and set the small Samsung above
the big LG.

Rebooting to Bullseye to try the same, I can't get the Samsung HDTV out of
unsupported mode, even though xrandr reports the Samsung is using its native
mode, or trying with any other supported mode selected. This smells like a
Bullseye bug waiting to be reported.

Next I tried openSUSE Tumbleweed. It works as expected there too:
# xrandr --output HDMI-2 --primary --mode 3840x2160 --output DP-1 --mode 
1920x1080 --above HDMI-2
# xrandr | egrep 'onnect|creen|\*' | grep -v disconn | sort -r
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3840 x 3240, maximum 16384 x 16384
HDMI-2 connected primary 3840x2160+0+1080 (normal left inverted right x axis y 
axis) 1600mm x 900mm
DP-1 connected 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 160mm x 
90mm
3840x2160 30.00*   25.0024.0029.9723.98
1920x1080 60.00*+  59.9430.0024.0029.9723.98
# inxi -SGay
System:
   Host: ab250 Kernel: 5.12.9-1-default x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.1.1
   parameters:...
   Desktop: Trinity R14.0.10 tk: Qt 3.5.0 info: kicker wm: Twin 3.0 vt: 7
   dm: TDM Distro: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20210611
Graphics:
   Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 630 vendor: ASUSTeK driver: i915 v: kernel
   bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:5912 class-ID: 0300
   Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: modesetting
   unloaded: fbdev,vesa alternate: intel display-ID: :0 screens: 1
   Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x3240 s-dpi: 144 s-size: 678x572mm (26.7x22.5")
   s-diag: 887mm (34.9")
   Monitor-1: DP-1 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 305 size: 160x90mm (6.3x3.5")
   diag: 184mm (7.2")
   Monitor-2: HDMI-2 res: 3840x2160 hz: 30 dpi: 61
   size: 1600x900mm (63.0x35.4") diag: 1836mm (72.3")
   OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 630 (KBL GT2)
   v: 4.6 Mesa 21.1.2 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes