Re: Re: Buscas chicas lindas???
hola quisiera quwe me mandaran fotos de ustedes mi nombre es carlos y mi correo es [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com.mx. me gustaria tener una cita con una de esas chicas fogosas que ustedes tienen reservada para mi.
Re: how are drivers loaded in a d-linux box?
The obvious (just to make sure): Have you set up your modem/ppp -connection? Use pppconfig, and have all the relevant information handy (like IP-numbers, password to your isp, which port the modem is on, etc.) It worked just super with my run-of-the-mill external modem, although quite a while back, so forgive me for any inaccuracies. hth Regards Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: pplaw [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:10. september 1999 22:43 Til: debs Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: how are drivers loaded in a d-linux box? debs, i have a question, to which an answer is obvious probably to all but me, regarding the modem driver, as my bootable linux box just gives me a prompt when i pon, regardless of the modem label (/dev/ttyS01; /dev/ttyS02...):how does a newly reformatted hard drive, previously running win98, recognize a modem (or any device, for that matter) if there isn't a micro$oft o/s for a driver install? here's my setup: 1. 233mhz laptop; 2. a reformatted, 2.1gb hard drive; a) partitioned: (hda1) 500mb--dos 16-bit; (hda2) 1.53gb linux native (bootable)--hda5; 68mb linux swap--hda6; and 3. 56k, v.90, pcmcia modem. pls unconfuse me. thx. bentley taylor. p.s. or, is the problem that i don't have the correct/real name for /dev/modem? if so, how do i find out the correct/real name for the device? b. // -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Why use Debian? Why not Red Hat?
I don't wanna start a flame war, but it is reeelly all that difficult to use 7(or is it 9? -I forget) installation disks instead of two?. I had a truly great experience installing Debian by the book using floppies and apt. BTW: How many disks would you need to install Windoze -about 50-60?! (If it was possible, that is...) Debian Rocks!! :-) Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:2. september 1999 13:59 Til: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: Re: Why use Debian? Why not Red Hat? On Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 11:21:36AM +0100, Patrick Kirk was heard to state: I also graduated from Red Hat. Debian installation is a beast but it leaves you with a working system that is idiot proof. Red Hat is an easier installation but things fail and you're left trawling the net resolving dependencies. I attempted an installation of Slink today, and it's been quite a while since I have done a fresh install, but I've been using Debian for quite a while now (since Bo, at least). I too, graduated from RedHat. One thing that got me though. I didn't have a CD handy, but I have a good net link at work, which regularly get's over 200k/s from Australia's best mirror. I figured, I don't need the CD, just the install disk. Now before anyone tells me to RTFM, I had a feeling it wasn't going to work, but I had a bit of time to kill... :) Anyway, I couldn't be bothered doing all the disk images, so I just got the rescue and drivers disks, booted up, repartitioned (the whole, and only HD). I was hoping it might let me FTP the base... Nope, no chance! Then I remembered that some of the mirrors let you NFS mount them, but I couldn't find anywhere a list of those that would, and their NFS-shared paths. I searched the web, the debain site, and the mailing list arcive, but couldn't even find any hints... Is this information available anywhere? Seeing Debian is such an internet-centric (ie., apt) distribution, it would be nice if you could install the whole thing with one the one or two boot disks (I'm sure you can with redhat). Even if the boot disk had a little FTP client (like wget or curl), so you could switch to a VT and put them on that newly made EXT2 partition. Maybe there is a way to do that, but I certainly couldn't work it out. You have an extremely minimal, but network connected, installation, but no way to use that network. Now maybe the boot disks are already too full, but I'm sure *something* could be queezed on. I think it would be a very useful feature. Now I haven't seen the Potato (are we out of Toy Story names yet!?) boot disks, so I have no idea what is on them. It's just a little suggestion, I guess. Cheers, damon -- Damon Muller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) / It's not a sense of humor. * Criminologist / It's a sense of irony * Webmeister / disguised as one. * Linux Geek / - Bruce Sterling$ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: E! Enlightenment for newbie?
Hi John I think Seth is right, probably the easiest solution to your colour problem will be to get a new video-card. I've had much succes using an old Tseng ET4000-based card in my slightly archaic 486/100. Gives me up to 1024x768 and plenty colors, with no troubles whatsoever. These cards are available very cheap or free, and very easy to configure (I'm a newbie too...), as they used to be very common. Good Luck Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Seth R Arnold [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:26. august 1999 06:39 Til: John Gay; debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: Re: E! Enlightenment for newbie? (I reformatted this to use 76 chars.. if you are in an xterm, I suggest you check to make sure it is 80 columns wide -- if using netscape or similar, please make the window smaller. :) On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 05:18:39AM +0100, John Gay wrote: E's website, but I take anything with a grain of salt. I'm interested in trying E, and was just looking for any experiences, good and bad with E. I was also hoping this would provide a simpler GUI for my ten year old I have never gotten E to work -- but that was with other distributions, I haven't tried debian's E yet. I think it would work much nicer under debian than the others, else it would never make it into stable. :) As for ease of use .. it doesn't seem nearly as easy as kwm under kde. *That* is pretty simple, as well as similar enough to windows so that your doughter will only feel revolted using windows, not completely clueless. :) However, kids being what they are these days, I do imagine E will give her no troubles, and she will probably soon be teaching you how to use it more efficiently. :) these yet. How would you rate E in relation to these? 7: At the moment, my daughter's PC is limited to 8 bit colour. Can E be configured to reduce any problems this causes? Right now, with fvwm95, if I open one app with lots of colours, than another one, the second complains there are not enough colours left and the screen keep switching different colours as the two app's borrow from each other. Is there some way to make the apps use the same colours? As for the color-depth problem... the window manager does not have any say in what colors applications can use. E will probably make the situation WORSE since to look good it requires many colors -- and you haven't athat many to go around. If it runs high resolution, you can drop the resolution down to get more colors, or (if your card just won't do it..) get a new video card. Checking your local .forsale newsgroup might find someone who wants to part with their video card to upgrade.. If her machine has an AGP slot, it wouldn't be too hard to find a nicer new video card for cheap -- if it is PCI, used might be the way to go.. and if it is ISA-only system, maybe someone out there can help.. :) If the machine is a bit on the slow side, E might not be such a good idea either -- I have heard it takes many CPU cycles to remain happy. If this is the case, you may want to check out blackbox. (I think it is blackbox.fwiw.com -- themes.org has a section devoted to it..) blackbox runs quick, very little resources are needed, and it is still intuitive. You do give up icons, but .. not that big a loss if the video card doesn't have enough memory for higher resolutions. HTH :) -- Seth Arnold | ICQ 3172483 | http://cswww.willamette.edu/~sarnold/ I prosecute unsolicited bulk emails, using the RealTime BlackHole List. You should too. Ask me how, or visit http://maps.vix.com/rbl/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Files: Debian-to-dos.
Is there a way to save a linux-file to a dos-diskette in a dos-readable way? (Say I wanted to show you guys a config-file or something when I'm mailing from an NT-box, not wanting to type the whole thing, or I wanted to take a file from f. x. StarOffice with me to work...) Please don't flame a pitiful 'nix newbie. I'm really trying to learn, and I already love the efficiency of linux compared to my horrible WinNT box at work (breaks down several times a day...) Regards Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer
Re: Netscape
Seems to me, the deal is you're lucky... Be Cool Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Ryan Chouinard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:24. august 1999 22:49 Til: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: Netscape I always hear people complain about Netscape crashing, but I never had that problem, except in Windows. But then, everything crashes in Windows. Netscape works fine for me in RH, Slackware, and now Debian. What's the deal? --Ryan Chouinard -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: more RAM = more speed?
Sorry, forgot to put debian in the adress-field. It's getting late here in denmark... Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Wichmann, Viggo Sendt:25. august 1999 20:11 Til: 'Patrick Olson' Emne: Re: more RAM = more speed? Hi Patrick I sincerely doubt if you will have any kind of trouble putting in another drive. I've done it recently without any squeaks. I'd say it might be worth getting a (small?) new(-ish), (but most important) fast drive, and maybe just use part of it for swap, and use the rest for something else like /tmp or whatever. Being a relative newbie, I'm not sure how to actually do it, but some wiz guys can probably enlighten you (and me!) on how to split your filesystem on several disks... hth Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Patrick Olson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:25. august 1999 17:14 Til: Brian Servis Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: Re: more RAM = more speed? Thanks for the other info on RAM, it will be very useful. Add a second hard drive on the second ide channel(hdc) It is good to have a swap partition on a different controller channel with each partition having equal priority. The kernel will use the partition which will provide the best performance. I don't know much when it comes to drives in Debian, so I have a few questions: 1. hdc has been a CD-ROM since the second I booted the Debian install CD. Will anything bad happen if hdc is suddenly a hard disk and hdd is now the CD-ROM? I haven't actually used the CD-ROM since I finished installing, so the only possible trouble spot might be booting. 2. Is there a a how-to or some doc's for this? I made a swap partition with cfdisk in the beginning and let the (excellent) install program figure out the rest. Thus, I never learned much about swap. 3. Since any drive I add will be old and slow (200MB), is it worth it? That is interesting that when both are given equal priority, the kernel figures out which one is best. I didn't know about that feature. Thank you, Patrick Olson -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: debian installation
I went through the same kind of nightmare trying to install on a box without net and without cd-rom, using diskettes. After installing the base system I realized: this isn't working and it's driving me nuts, so I got a modem, ran pppconfig and the rest of the install was a breeze, except for my internal video-card, which I had to disable and get another one for X to work. My point is: what a marvellously wonderful thing the apt-way is using dselect. Once you get the idea, it's really good. Saves you all the trouble with drives that aren't recognized and all that jazz. just my .02 regards Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: JARDINE, Jeff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:23. august 1999 14:27 Til: 'Ed Cogburn'; 'Debian User list' Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: RE: debian installation -Original Message- From: Ed Cogburn [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 5:00 AM To: Debian-Users Subject:Re: debian installation Now, I believe that the ease of install depends entirely on the hardware of the box being installed onto, and not the distribution. If Linux is happy with the hardware and its configuration, i.e. standard serial mouse on ttyS0, hayes standard modem (not PnP) on ttyS1, etc, then the install will be virtually painless regardless of whether you are installing Debian, RH, Caldera, etc. I think you're absolutely right. I'm still working on my first installation (2 months and counting). Linux is *not* happy with a PnP soundcard and CD-ROM. From everything I've read, it appears to be necessary to recompile the kernel when configuring PnP hardware. Unfortunately, this can not be done when you only have the base kernel installed. So, it seems, first-time installation from a PnP CD ROM is impossible. My next attempt will involve copying the entire Debian CD #1 onto my DOS partition and installing from there. Jeff J -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
SV: (Debian-user)Re: how to format mySeagate ST33210A
I know, this might be silly, but just to make absolutely sure: Did you set the master/slave jumpers correctly? My box has all the symptoms yours has (lights, won't recognize, a.s.o.) when I forget to set the jumpers... Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: shadow [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:20. august 1999 07:33 Til: Ralph Winslow Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: (Debian-user)Re: how to format mySeagate ST33210A Your mail header needs to have the list group this is going to in it. That enables mail filters to route it to a directory (folder). I use GTKicq and think it is fine. Rob On 20-Aug-99 Ralph Winslow wrote: Patrick Olson wrote: Jumping in the middle here, so pardon me if I'm way off. Is your Seagate ST33210A an IDE drive? Yes On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Ralph Winslow wrote: What do you mean by using the second? I mean the second, Ramdisk, diskette. You mean the disk it asks for after you boot the 'rescue disk, right? That's correct I tried re-running it three times. I'm reluctant to report a bug on Debian 1.0 software, though. Debian 1.0? I'm going to assume you mean 2.0, in which case I have the same disks... No, I labeled them Debian 1.0 when I created them. I might have mislabeled them, though. What does dmesg report? Your dmesg report doesn't mention /dev/hdd or the Seagate drive at all. I think that is the problem right there. /dev/hdd would be secondary slave IDE I think. Can anything (maybe the BIOS) find the drive? No, I see that the dmesg report doesn't see the drive, and the BIOS doesn't detect it, either. I also notice that the HDD light on my generic (Kenitec) case stays constantly lit when the new drive is installed. I don't know what to do about it, though. If you can run without the CD-ROM temporarily, how about setting the Seagate as primary slave in place of the CD-ROM which is now /dev/hdb I'll give that a try - I seldom use the CD anyway (sounds not working either). Again, I'm sorry if I'm way off on this, I just finally saw something I thought I might be able to answer. Thanks for your response. -- - Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] The IQ of the group is that of the member whose IQ is lowest divided by the number of members. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free OS http://www.debian.org Free Privacy http://www.junkbusters.com -- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
SV: Configuring a monitor (and video card)?
I recently had the same kind of problem (only with a lot crappier hardware). What I did wrong was choosing relatively conservative values for hsync and vsync, which X calculated to give me, yes, 320x200. I then thought, what the heck, i can't use 320x200 for anything anyways; so what have I got to lose. In xf86config, I set hsync and vsync as high as I could possibly imagine the card and screen would go, and it worked! now I have 1024x768 in 256 colours on an ancient 1Mb ET4000-card... What you could do down this line with your precious new hardware is to set hsync and vsync very optimistic, and then make sure that X starts up in the lowest possible res -then cautiously change to a higher res. once you find the resolutions you want, edit out the obsolete ones in the xf86config-file. It seems to me that you've got the card sort of right (since your card is agp, why not go for that?), and maybe you just need to set the right values for the syncs. Anyway, please post detailed info on what you put into xf86config, for more detailed help. Hope I'm not completely in deep water, being still a relative newbie. If I am, please ignore me ;-) hth Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: virtanen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:19. august 1999 16:49 Til: Patrick Olson Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: Re: Configuring a monitor (and video card)? (Now the power problem seems to be solved. (Came back to this damn machine after some rest. My other debian box works well.) The power shut-off seems to be related to that windows-button 'let windows take care of power'...) Now again to the video-card and monitor. The card is as follows: Matrox MGA-G100 (AGP) PowerDesk On-Board Memory 8MB Board mapping D800 RAMDAC speed 230 MHz And the monitor is: HL 7870S Hyundai 17 1) Does anyone know, which card I should select: a) Mattrox Millenium II b) Mattrox Millenium II AGP c) none of the above, which one? 2) The problem is that I can make X working in a way, but the resolution seems to be something like 320 x 200 and no crlt-alt +/- combination changes that. (yes, I know that it is meant that numeric keyboard.) How should I configure the monitor to get an usable screen (now for example with fwv95 the panel buttons are so big that almost the whole screen is filled with those only) or is the problewm with the video card? I have used both xf86config and XF86Setup, the result is the same. -hv [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Configuring a monitor (and video card)?
You have to resolve the dependency problem first. IIRC, the driver you need is exactly xserver-svga 3.3.3.1-10 ,the file that was causing you trouble ;-) Good luck Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: virtanen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:19. august 1999 18:13 Til: Debian Users Mailing List Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: Re: Configuring a monitor (and video card)? On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, virtanen wrote: On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, Peter S Galbraith wrote: The card is as follows: Matrox MGA-G100 (AGP) PowerDesk On-Board Memory 8MB Board mapping D800 RAMDAC speed 230 MHz This is a FAQ. You need a more recent version of XFree. You can download it with apt-get from: deb http://ftp.netgod.net/ x/ There is no apt-get available. The machine is not netted (yet). Where is it there? Installed xfree86-common 3.3.3.1-10 from 'unstable'. It wasn't possible to install Package: xserver-svga 3.3.3.1-10 because of dependency problems. No difference. The screen is the same as before. - hv [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: /dev/mouse: not supported by device -Not solved
Is there any other name than Serial Mouse on the mouse? Are you absolutely positive it's on ttyS0? Just making sure... Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Davide Anchisi [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:19. august 1999 18:14 Til: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: Re: /dev/mouse: not supported by device -Not solved Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: /dev/mouse is a symlink (via ln -s) from whatever is your mouse. So if your mouse is on com1 it should look like /dev/mouse - /dev/ttyS0 a ps2 is psaux. The mouse is a Serial Mouse. /dev/mouse i's already: /dev/mouse - /dev/ttyS0 and even trying: gpm -m /dev/ttyS0 gives the message: gpm: /dev/ttyS0: device not supported So I don't know what to do. Any idea? Thanks, Davide -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Configuring a monitor (and video card)?
I'm not an expert, and I haven't tried it (-yet) but I gather it is possible to tell dselect that you want to get some stuff from potato. Dselect IMHO is really good at handling depencies... Maybe some of the wiz'es know what the latest Xserver-svga depends on?! Regards :-) Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: virtanen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:19. august 1999 18:52 Til: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: Re: SV: Configuring a monitor (and video card)? On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to resolve the dependency problem first. IIRC, the driver you need is exactly xserver-svga 3.3.3.1-10 ,the file that was causing you trouble while doing dpkg -i there is no advice available to see, what kind of packages are needed to solve dependency problems... It is just telling you that this won't do... Anyway, I tried to install xserver-svga 3.3.3.1-10 (once again). To see, if it is possible to find out what to do for it. This time I had again a sudden power-shut-down. While the machine just announced 'unpacking...' (so there is something else besides that 'Windows-button'.) Now the complete system is again broken, no kernel or X starting. No dependency problems either. Going home. Got enough for today. -hv [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
SV: FAT32 to FAT16
Hey, if it's formatted it's empty, so just get a set of old DOS-diskettes and do a normal install with a reformat. But then again; why bother with dos when you can have Linux?! Cheers Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Kim Andersen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:17. august 1999 18:54 Til: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: FAT32 to FAT16 Hi! I have a problem, I really hope you can help me. I need to convert my computer back to FAT16 from FAT32. How can I do that? I have already formatted my harddisk (850MB), so does their exist any program, which in MS-DOS mode can convert my harddisk back to FAT16? Do you know any download sides which contain such a program? (I have searched, could'nt find any!!!). Anyway, thanks. Sincerely Kim. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Fetchmail won't configure
As a newbie, I thought I'd let fetchmailconf take me by the hand and help me configure the bastard instead of futzing around with config-files. But all I get is: promptfetchmailconf (I type at prompt) Linux answers: env: python: no such file or directory I search dselect for python but all the python dselect can find seems to be already installed. I've successfully configured exim (I think -it didn't complain, just tells me there's no mail) and mail runs ok, so I just don't get it?! I figure I do need fetchmail for getting the mail off of my ISP, right?! I tried some different FM's but they all seem to assume the stuff is actually able to execute... Regards Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer
Setting up Exim
Allright, maybe this is a stupid question, but I'm stuck: In X, I open a xterm and type eximconfig. I supply my mailserver's id and tell it where to put the mail (in the sole user's account: mine!). Not too difficult, even for a newbie like me. Now, when I try to get my mail, I run fetchmail (the modem flickers), then exim, and I get an error something like no mail adresses supplied. How come? I've set up exim at least 5 times, just to make sure, in and out of X, as root and as user, rebooted, all to no avail. What am I doing wrong? To the best of my knowledge, I am setting it up exactly as the Mail-HOWTO told me. Clues most welcome :-) Regards Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer
Re: Setting up Exim
Thanks for the quick response. Yes, it seems I can mail myself. I started mail and sent a message to viggo (my local username). It arrived promptly, and I was able to read it. I can not, however, find any file by that name (or any file at all) in my /home/viggo directory (using dir from an xterm, one the few recognizable commands to me from way back in them DOS-days). Fetchmail always prompts me for my password to my ISP, but seems to have gotten the ISP's mail-account right (I typed it, but no longer take anything for granted ;-) ). This would indicate to me that I would have to edit my fetchmail-config-file, right?! Oh, well, I must be basically heading in the right direction. I'll do some manpage-reading (great facility, that is) and try to get back with more info. Thanks a lot; I really appreciate it, and X is so beautiful... Regards Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Greg Baker [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:17. august 1999 20:34 Til: Wichmann, Viggo Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Emne: Re: Setting up Exim On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allright, maybe this is a stupid question, but I'm stuck: In X, I open a xterm and type eximconfig. I supply my mailserver's id and tell it where to put the mail (in the sole user's account: mine!). Not too difficult, even for a newbie like me. Now, when I try to get my mail, I run fetchmail (the modem flickers), then exim, and I get an error something like no mail adresses supplied. How come? I've set up exim at least 5 times, just to make sure, in and out of X, as root and as user, rebooted, all to no avail. What am I doing wrong? To the best of my knowledge, I am setting it up exactly as the Mail-HOWTO told me. First, are you sure local mail is being delivered correctly? Try opening up your mail program (mutt, elm, pine, xfmail, ...) and sending mail to your local userid (ie. I would send to 'greg' which is my accound on my home computer, not 'ggbaker'). If that doesn't work, your problem is with Exim. If it does work, your problem is with fetchmail. I'm not at a computer with fetchmail, so take this with a grain of salt... You should have a file in your home directory called .fetchmailrc. Mine looks (as I recall) something like: poll my.pop.server proto POP3 auth password user ggbaker pass mypassword keep Have a look at the fetchmail man page. Does that do it? Greg --- With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. --RFC-1925
Mail-question; Quick One!
Ok let me get this straight: I use a total of three (four) apps to read my mail: (pppd(pon) connects to my ISP,) fetchmail gets the mail, passes it on to exim, which sends it to the (one and only) user: me, and I finally invoke for example mail to read and edit mail. mail is (basically) an editor. exim takes care of internal mail (inside my machine, between root and user or apps like cron) fetchmail handles the connection out-of-the-box (mailwise) pppd/pon does the actual connecting bit (dialing and passwording and stuff) Please correct a pitiful newbie if he be lead astray from the path of righteousness. Best Regards Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer
Re: What's this about E-Mail support
Hey, could you possibly get better support than on debian-user?! Who wants 30 days FREE E-mail support (tadaaa!) when all the deb-dudes are there to help? Just my 2c. ;-) Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pollywog [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:14. august 1999 23:44 Til: debian-user list Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: RE: What's this about E-Mail support On 14-Aug-99 Julian S. Taylor wrote: Salutations, I've been dead in the water for weeks now. I'm busy and I don't have time to hack into the Debian drivers. I bought the official Debian release and registered it by snail mail. I was expecting to get back an E-Mail address for the promised 30 days of E-Mail support - never happened. How does that work? Has anyone on this alias recieved this support? Who promised 30 days of e-mail support? Debian is not a commercial distribution. RedHat and Caldera offer 30 days of e-mail support. -- Andrew -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: No Mouse, No X Windows
I just had the exact same problem! It seems that no matter what I do to tell xf86config that my mouse is on dev/psaux/ (which yours probably also is) the changes doesn't seem to be reflected in the etc/x11/xf86config -file. I had the mouse working fine and was just trying to get a little higher than 640x480 out of my ET4000, when this happened. Now I'm going to read my Linux-book and try to figure out how to edit xf86config manually from the console, before going to bed. Clues most welcome! Regards Vitux :-) Still happy to kill my Win-partition in spite of a month of heavy unix-learning. Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Wendell Buckner [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:16. august 1999 00:01 Til: Debian Users Group Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: Re: No Mouse, No X Windows Well the graphically interface is nice(I've been dealing with just console up to now), but it's not solving my problem (thanks anyway). I go through the configuration process, save it and it tells me that my server is now running. It then exits me to the console prompt. I run startx and it it gives me the same error(/dev/mouse, no such file or directory). I look in the /dev for a mouse file or directory and it is not there!! I will check to make sure that the serial port is working by booting it with a dos floppy and mouse.com. -Wxb1 -Original Message- From: John Carline [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wendell Buckner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Debian Users Group debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Sunday, August 15, 1999 11:25 AM Subject: Re: No Mouse, No X Windows Wendell Buckner wrote: I'm almost there... Almost running x windows... But x-windows drops out from initializing giving me an error indicating that there is no mouse. And sure enough the file it was looking for, /dev/mouse, is not there! I've been looking for some way to create or install a mouse. I must be looking in the wrong places (HOWTO's aren't helping). I just want to install a standard microsoft mouse. I know this is easy, but I can't seem to find information on this, maybe makedev can do this? ARGH!!! Help...Please?!! -WXB1 Have you tried to setup Xwindows with the command XF86Setup? The standard microsoft serial mouse should be the first thing you select and apply. Then the keyboard, card, monitor etc. John -- Powered by the Penguin -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Newbie Q: Mail-howto
Greetings ye stout Debians As a newbie I'm a little confused about all the different apps and the terminology involved in sending and receiving mail. My question is: is there a mail-howto enabling a newbie to get his mail-stuff working or at least ask the right questions? If not, will someone please explain the works to me in plain language?! I'm setting up a quite simple, singleuser system on a IBM TP 365, 40 Mb RAM and 814 Mb HD using a standard ppp-connection on a Rockwell external modem (hope to get an internal one sometime when I get PCMCIA working). Best Regards Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer
SV: WARNING: APT removes bash on slink upgrade
Another silly newbie q: What's an NMU? Regards Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Thomas Quinot [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:12. august 1999 14:45 Til: Jason Gunthorpe Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: Re: WARNING: APT removes bash on slink upgrade Le 1999-08-12, Jason Gunthorpe écrivait : This is due to a recent bash NMU which now pre-depends on the potato libreadlineg2 which conflicts with the slink bash. Bash -MUST- be re-uploaded with the proper changes made so that it can exist with the slink libreadlineg2 ASAP. This is not so simple. Bash is unusable with slink's libreadline. Three bugs of severity important existed in the BTS for this problem, which the recent NMU attempts to fix: #35130, #39280, #41802. On the other hand, the current libreadline is binary-incompatible with the slink bash, so the conflicts: cannot be removed; the major version on libreadline should have been bumped when libreadline was first compiled against glibc 2.1. More generally, it is unfortunate that such intricated dependencies exist between bash and libreadline, with bash being a package of paramount importance for the operation of the whole system. Maybe it would be preferrable to link bash statically and get rid of its dependency on readline. On the other hand, such important change is far out of the scope of an NMU. For now I can reupload bash with the latest change undone. Unfortunately, this means that an important problem which renders bash unusable will have to stay open. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://web.fdn.fr/~tquinot/
Newbie Q on NMU (was: Re: WARNING: APT removes bash on slink upgr ade)
Who would upload if not the maintainer? Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Peter Makholm [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:13. august 1999 12:28 Til: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: Re: SV: WARNING: APT removes bash on slink upgrade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another silly newbie q: What's an NMU? Non Maintainer Upload, it's when the debian developer can't upload to fix a bug. Please fix you mailer. It is tagging the subject line in some obscure way. Please use Re: instead of SV: . TIA - Peter Makholm -- I congratulate you. Happy goldfish bowl to you, to me, to everyone, and may each of you fry in hell forever. -- Isaac Asimov, The Dead Past -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
SV: Newbie Q on NMU (was: Re: WARNING: APT removes bash on slink upgr ade)
Sorry, phrased it wrong: Peter Makholm: Non Maintainer Upload, it's when the debian developer can't upload to fix a bug. Who would upload if not the developer and not the maintainer? Just curious... :-) Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Chanop Silpa-Anan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:13. august 1999 13:35 Til: Wichmann, Viggo Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: Re: Newbie Q on NMU (was: Re: WARNING: APT removes bash on slink upgr ade) Debian developper ofcourse. Goto section Documents on debain webpage and take a look at debian new maintainers' guide and debian developer reference about these topics. Chanop. On Fri, Aug 13, 1999 at 01:27:47PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who would upload if not the maintainer? Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Peter Makholm [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:13. august 1999 12:28 Til: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: Re: SV: WARNING: APT removes bash on slink upgrade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another silly newbie q: What's an NMU? Non Maintainer Upload, it's when the debian developer can't upload to fix a bug. Please fix you mailer. It is tagging the subject line in some obscure way. Please use Re: instead of SV: . TIA - Peter Makholm -- I congratulate you. Happy goldfish bowl to you, to me, to everyone, and may each of you fry in hell forever. -- Isaac Asimov, The Dead Past -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Chanop Silpa-Anan Australian National University. Tel. +61 2 6279 8826, +61 2 6279 8837 (office hour) +61 2 6249 5240 (home +voice mail) ICQ uin 11366301 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
SV: Debian 2.%$#@*!
Hi Max I know the feeling. Take a week or two off from your Linux-box; helps rebuild your energy. I'm doing it to see if I can make it work; sort of a masochistic challenge to myself. Also, I'd really like to get rid of M$ Hang in there man, it's got to be possible. I can't believe all the rest of the people on the list are full-time computer-nerds -there's got to be someone doing something else besides installing Debian. ;-) Any help I can give you as a newbie I will be happy to offer. Regards Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:31. juli 1999 02:51 Til: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: Debian [EMAIL PROTECTED]! AAarrr This @$#%^!*@# system is driving me crazy!!! How does anybody ever get it to work? -- Max ___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Installing X on Compaq XE 466
Greetings all you fine folks! I know this might be a little offtopic, but it's vital to me: I need the setup param's for the on-board video-card that's in my old Compaq 486/66, model Deskpro XE 466, in order to get X configured right. I've tried a few standardish setups, but all I get is white vertical stripes all over the screen, and sometimes a neat blue color. I've also tried searching the 'Net to no avail. Hey, even tried calling Compaq; who didn't know any specifics and didn't give a f... What I did gather was this: It could be either a CirrusLogic 5434 or 5436 or 5446 or a Compaq Qvision local bus (whatever that means). Any of these should be capable of 1024*768 and have 1Mb Vram. If any of you guys have got X working on a machine like this or know anything about it, please let me know. By the way, when I get along to it, I'm going to get KDE. Seen it on one of my friends' machines -looks reeely goood. Best Regards Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer
SV: Download af linux
Hi Debians. I'm answering this guy in danish, since he wrote his posting in danish. He's asking where to get a Linux os, and I tell him to check out www.debian.org, and also to read some info first. Der var du sgu heldig. Jeg mener at være den eneste dansker her (udover dig). Adressen er: http://www.debian.org Gør dig selv den tjeneste at læse lidt forskelligt om det først, ellers får du en hel del bøvl ud af installationen. Det er absolut en fordel at skrive på engelsk. Der er mange superkompetente folk her, men de skriver allesammen engelsk. :-) Velkommen! Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: henriktrolle [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:19. juli 1999 11:50 Til: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: Download af linux hvor kan jeg downloade linux operativ system
SV: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines
Hi debians. I think what Wayne is getting at here is a standard of recommendations for supplying information when writing to this list. The point must be to express one's problem as clearly and concisely as possible, giving as much information on as little space as possible. I know from my own experience in following this list over a couple of months (yes, I'm a relative newbie), that many times it is a long read before getting the idea of the question... Also, there seems to be a lot of repetitions, but this is probably unavoidable. (In this matter I agree with Patrick.) Basic troubleshooting information would f.ex. include: System spec's: proc, ram, storage-systems, monitor, cards, etc. Linux specs: kernel, apps, logfiles, conf's etc. These are merely suggestions. Let me make it clear that I don't want to force anything on anyone -the cool thing about Linux is it's anarchistic, free, and self maintaining. Let's keep it that way. Besides, many newbies wouldn't hardly know what a config-file or a log-file looks like in Debian, much less how to view it. I didn't, and still don't feel quite comfy about it... I'm looking forward to the day that I can start helping out. Best Regards Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Wayne Topa [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:20. juli 1999 00:30 Til: debian-user Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines Subject: Re: Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines Date: Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 10:08:38PM +0100 In reply to:Patrick Kirk Quoting Patrick Kirk([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi Wayne, I like the idea of less time being wasted on repeating the same answers again and again. The problem with the suggested guidelines is that they are rational and assume a calm user carefully going through an installation. No doubt there have been newbies to Linux like that but far more common is the newbie who has hosed his MBR, can't make out what switches mean and is close to desperation because the web site must go live in a few hours or the Windows user with whom the PC is shared is getting annoyed. Well then, when in panic mode, a copy of the guid lines might have helped, wouldn't they. For example, a week ago I was trying to configure a machine with 2 NICs as a firewall and found I needed to enter the command ipfwadm -I -a accept -S 0/0 68 -D 0/0 67 -W bootp_clients_net_if_name -P udp before I entered ipfwadm -F -a m -S 192.168.1.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0. But the mini-howto only tells you this afterwards. And my firewall was working so tightly nothing from the LAN could even ping the second NIC on the server! And my wife was on her way home...expecting to be able to use her PC to access email on return. What the -F -H does a newbie do? Panic!..write a desperate letter to Debian using friends and if that fails to Debian user. Thanks for that example Patrick. I have to add the Kernel version as a must supply, as well. I have seen people panic when ipfwadm used to work and now doesn't, only to find out after a few exchanges, that the kernel had just been upgraded to the 2.2.x series. Of course this question has probably been answered 20 times in the last few weeks. But newbies tend to get deep into trouble before realising it and then tend to ask for help...its the nature of learning any new complex system. As more and more newbies come to Debain without being house-trained by Red Hat or SuSE, this will happen more and more. Be happy - its a sign of growth! But if the there was a well know format that questions had to, or should, follow them a check of the Archives would probably fix the problem 'faster' then waiting by the console Hoping for an answer. I've actually posted an answer or two to other people's questions now, so a payback does come. Sorry about my contribution top the 4MB. But why not just delete all those over a week old? Most problems on this list are comprehensively covered in a few hours...the longest I ever waited was a day. And all my questions...even when the hidden causes were hardware failures have been aswered in full with even links to relavent articles on the web. I find that archiving the list here saves me from having to go online to look up the answers someone else needs. I was not complaining about the size as I have plenty of space for the lists. I was trying to point out that, after reviewing the questions over the past few days,months and years, that there seemed, to me to be a lot of repeats. Remember that this is a world wide list. I have heard from some Europeans that thay have to pay, by the minute, for internet access. We here in the States are somewhat fortunate in that the costs are much less. Why should some one have to pay for mail that runs to 10+ messages, just because the requeater didn't supply
Suggestion for Newbie Guide Lines
Good Idea!
Regards
Vitux
Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Carl Mummert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I was looking in my mail dir today and noticed my debian-user
folder
exceeds 4 Meg for this month. In reviewing the question and answers
for the last few days, it seems like there is a lot of wasted
bandwidth.
I like the idea of less time being wasted on repeating the same answers
again and again.
One issue: there is already a lot of documentation out there. ( I will
not vouch for its quality or lack thereof, but volume is something that it
does not lack). Every package should have a manpage, and often there is
stuff in /usr{/share}/doc/package also, as well as all the web-based
documentation.
When a new user starts using Linux, a one problem is information
overload. Suddenly, the user is faced with 5000 pages of documentation
(if you take the 'read the docs for every package before you use it'
philosophy) which of course they do not have the time to read.
Until something breaks.
It is not reasonable to expect a new user to read all those docs
before inserting the installation disks. Or before they start using
the system. We don't have the magical ability to change human nature
here.
One thing that might be nice would be a document that contained:
* ) a list of 'very important' documents - like some Xfree
docs, whatever else is really needed to install the system
* ) a list of (too) commonly asked questions and answers
* ) a list of places to look for further documentation
- man/apropos
- info
- /usr{/share}/doc/HOWTO
- online places
* ) a checklist that the user can follow to attempt to report
(or maybe even fix...) problems as they occur
Checklists are easy for users to follow, require no
previous knowledge, and teach processes for fixing things.
And they might lead to more detailed bug reports, easier to resond
to.
* ) etc
If this were kept brief (say less than ten pages) then users could
print it out (but not read it yet) before they start, for reference when
the system breaks (when they will have the patience to sit down and look
for help)
Carl
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SV: modem configuration
You might have gotten the modem on the wrong serial port. Happened to me just yesterday (yea, I'm a newbie too). Thing is: com1 is ttyS0 in linux, com2 is ttyS1 aso. Kind of silly, that pon doesn't give any kind of information on what it's doing... hth Vitux -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Stephen Monroe [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:15. juli 1999 02:39 Til: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: modem configuration A friend installed Debian Potato on my box a while ago when I was using the Ethernet at school, but now I must use a modem at home and I can't get it to work. Here is what I've done: Using setserial I found IRQ: 3 Port: 0x02f8 then pnpdump /etc/isapnp.conf then I uncommented the lines that corresponded with the values I got with setserial (I'm pretty sure they are correct) Then I ran ln -s /dev/ttyS1 /dev/modem and I made sure isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf is running at start up. I configured my modem in gnome-ppp, but when I try to connect nothing happens. I then ran pon, but still nothing happened. Any thoughts (keeping in mind I'm a beginner)? --Stephen ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Newbie troubles: XF86Setup acts out strange
Hi Debians The 'box spent most of last night downloading stuff from debian (I just said yes to dselect's suggestions, in order to not meddle too much with dependencies) after spending all afternoon getting my modem up running. No Problemo there. Wonderful program, apt is. Now I'm really excited to start trying to use the damn thing for something, but: I figure I have to run XF86Setup to enable the X-stuff?! When I do, I get: (something like) This may take a while. After a short while, the screen goes light grey, first w/ stripes, then just grey and a black bar ~1 down left side of the screen. Que Pasa?! I think somewhere while installing packages I said yes to a SVGA option, which I know my screen is capable of. Would this have anything to do with it?! (I'm not even sure which program I was installing with this option...guess I should have taken notes...) Also: how do set up fetchmail to get my mail? I seem to have given the wrong hostname when installing... I tried looking in the man pages, but I didn't find it altogether clear on what to do. Think I'll go out and get a Linux-book tomorrow :-) Best Regards and thanx Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer
VS: Newbie troubles: XF86Setup acts out strange
Oh, my system: Compaq Deskpro XE 466. 486/66, 32M ram, 540 hd (soon to be doubled), on-board video, Siemens mcm 1702 monitor, Rockwell comp. 56K modem. thanx Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Wichmann, Viggo Sendt:16. juli 1999 00:18 Til: 'debian' Emne: Newbie troubles: XF86Setup acts out strange Hi Debians The 'box spent most of last night downloading stuff from debian (I just said yes to dselect's suggestions, in order to not meddle too much with dependencies) after spending all afternoon getting my modem up running. No Problemo there. Wonderful program, apt is. Now I'm really excited to start trying to use the damn thing for something, but: I figure I have to run XF86Setup to enable the X-stuff?! When I do, I get: (something like) This may take a while. After a short while, the screen goes light grey, first w/ stripes, then just grey and a black bar ~1 down left side of the screen. Que Pasa?! I think somewhere while installing packages I said yes to a SVGA option, which I know my screen is capable of. Would this have anything to do with it?! (I'm not even sure which program I was installing with this option...guess I should have taken notes...) Also: how do set up fetchmail to get my mail? I seem to have given the wrong hostname when installing... I tried looking in the man pages, but I didn't find it altogether clear on what to do. Think I'll go out and get a Linux-book tomorrow :-) Best Regards and thanx Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer
Newbie Q: Time
Installing Debian 2nd time; wiped windoze entirely. Feels great. Just wondering though: Living in Denmark, would I be using CET or WET? Regards Vitux
SV: Getting there
Hi C.D. Let's try to keep Debian/Linux free. It's probably an illusion to keep it that way, but I think it's worth trying. I'm a Debian newbie, and I switched to Linux for exactly the same reasons; I was tired of breakdowns, sick of seeing Microsoft. document every time I looked at a file-heading, and exasperated with not being able to remove IE from my system (f.ex.). I think a part of the point with Linux is that you can build exactly the right system for your needs, which of course also makes it harder to install, but I think it's an advantage in the long run. On the other hand; I think you're (at least in part) right. The future for Linux must be somewhere between getting a lot more userfriendly, so that people like your girlfriend (and mine too...) will be able to install and use it, and still facilitating all the tweaking that's going on (just look at this list!). This is why: to enable it to spread and become popular among every-day-users, Linux will _need_ more userfriendliness, (idiot-safe-ness, we call it in Denmark), and to develop and grow and become better, faster, easier, it needs the tweaking and all the nerds and programmers and that sort of folks, who are making things work. Why not have several (f.ex.) mail-systems? There could be idiot-proof, userfriendly systems, and tweaky, sophisticated ones, to suit every persons need. My girlfriend could be running a supersafe (but slower) system and not see a line of code or a conf in her life, and I could be sitting there tweaking and programming and running bleeding-edge potato... Wish I knew how to program... Best Regards Viggo Wichmann Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer If a train stops at a trainstation, what happens at a workstation? -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Christian Dysthe [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:18. juni 1999 22:00 Til: Stephen Pitts Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: Re: Getting there On 18-Jun-99 Stephen Pitts wrote: That's the point. Exim sends mail/sorts incoming mail, and fetchmail provides a bridge from POP3/IMAP and who knows what else. If a new protocol came out tommorow, then fetchmail would be the only program that needed to be modified. MUA means just that - the user's interface to his/her mail files. I've tried a half dozen email programs, and I'm safe in the fact that 33 MB worth of email is safe inside of the mbox-format files. A combo gives you a tremendous amount of flexibilty. While you are checking out X mail programs, look at empath, http://without.netpedia.net/empath.html and mahogany, http://www.phy.hw.ac.uk/~karsten/Mahogany/ Both are in the early stages of development. I just sent an email to the author of empath, offering to help with development. I am not a dedicated Linux lover. I chose Debian becuase I was tired of Windoews pissing me off by crashing and loosing my data. Some of the Windows applications are brilliant pieces of software, and simple and stable to use. Especially some of the email clients are. I miss them! I ran mutt for a month. It's not that I haven't tried. I am doing fine now with my combo, but I do not see any reason why easy to use/configure software should not be available? My girlfirend wants Debian on her machine, but she says she doesnt have time for all those conf files she sees me editing all the time. I have gotten off list mailings that suggest I reconsider using Linux since I feel like I do! I knew it was coming, and it did. Something never changes. I am just hoping that one change is was the availability of more great software on a great platform. I am not able to code, but I am willing to pay! :) //\\//\\//\\ Regards, Christian Dysthe Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~cdysthe ICQ 3945810 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux //\\//\\//\\ Clones are people two -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
SV: communicator 4.6 - ftp bug
Hi Hafi Here it is. I got from my 'doze box w/ msie (yuck), since my deb-box is waiting for a modem. Have u tried something so elementary and windozy as reinstalling the damn thing (c4.6, that is)?! S'pose u have... Best Regards Vitux sane_1_0_1-1_diff.gz -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Hartmut Figge [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:17. juni 1999 00:46 Til: Ed Cogburn Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: Re: communicator 4.6 - ftp bug Ed Cogburn wrote: Yes the file is 17428 bytes. Hold down the shift key when clicking on a file to download; this will cause Netscape to download 'as-is'. so it should be. but not with my communicator 4.6. therefore i´m on the search for a version, which will do, what should be expected. just a look to your header: strange, it seems you´re using also communicator 4.6, and also the same kernel. well, if you´ve downloaded this file with the communicator, then, hmm ... what? i use the right mouse button to get the store menu, but that isn´t the reason for the faulty behaviour. just tried with the shift key - and that gives exactly the same result - an unpacked file of the size 81258 bytes. now i´m perplex hafi -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null sane_1_0_1-1_diff.gz Description: Binary data
SV: Webmasters Wanted!!! We'll pay you...
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SV: SV: A little further: Short newbie question
I don't have an isp for the computer (silly, I know), and I have already installed the base system, which seems to be in fine working order. What I did was to swap the hd into a WinNT box (on my LAN w/ 100Mbit connection at work) and download the lot to that, but I somehow managed to loose the directories along the way. I'll try doing another download and remember to reformat the dos-partition to vfat to allow long names. Thanks again for all the help; I'm slowly beginning to understand... Regards Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Kent West [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:8. juni 1999 23:32 Til: Wichmann, Viggo Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Emne: Re: SV: A little further: Short newbie question [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks a tremendous lot for all the help. It really helps keeping my spirit up as a newbie. I managed to mount the dos partition allright, but it seems like dselect wants an exact copy of the ftp-site, which is a problem since I can't make the directory binary-i386 with only 8 characters allowed in dos. Seems like I'm gonna have to borrow a cd-drive off of somebody and try to do the installation from there, alternatively (re)install the winbastard in the dos-partition to be able to use longer names. Damn. Anyone got any brilliant ideas for a (masochist?!) newbie?! Regards Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer... You can download the base install to floppies (7 or 10 or so) and install the base. That will get you a minimal system that is capable of dialing into your ISP, at which time you can configure dselect to use ftp or the apt method. Then whenever you install a package you'll get the most recent stable release (or unstable if you so specify) by downloading at install time. On a slow dial-up link, it takes some time, but it sure is easy. Be aware that if you want to re-use the downloaded files, you may have to do some finagling, because I believe the apt method automatically deletes the deb files after they've been installed.
Short newbie question
Hi Debians Whats the partition's block device name? I'm trying to install Debian from the dos-partition using dselect. I copied alle the files from the ftp(main, etc.)-archives and put them into the dos partition. I believe Linux should be able to see the dos-part., but I don't know the path to it in linux-speak. (It worked fine a week ago, in my first attempt, but that was only the base system). I tried putting /dev/hda1/ but got the error: /dev/hda1/ is not a block device. What am I doing wrong? (Yes I did check the Installing debian gnu/Linux manual, but found only basic inst. info., which I am getting familiar with...) Regards Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer.
A little further: Short newbie question
Ok, now I got a little further: I typed /dev/hda and dselect asks: Enter filesystem type for dev/hda: What's linuxian for a dos filesystem? Vitux -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Wichmann, Viggo Sendt:8. juni 1999 16:24 Til: 'debian user' Emne: Short newbie question Hi Debians Whats the partition's block device name? I'm trying to install Debian from the dos-partition using dselect. I copied alle the files from the ftp(main, etc.)-archives and put them into the dos partition. I believe Linux should be able to see the dos-part., but I don't know the path to it in linux-speak. (It worked fine a week ago, in my first attempt, but that was only the base system). I tried putting /dev/hda1/ but got the error: /dev/hda1/ is not a block device. What am I doing wrong? (Yes I did check the Installing debian gnu/Linux manual, but found only basic inst. info., which I am getting familiar with...) Regards Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer.
Newbie installation troubles -dos/linux
Hi Debians I'm still in the process of installing. I managed to mount the dos-partition in dselect, but now it wants the exact folder-structure to be copied on the dos-partition in order to install. The problem is: I can't make a folder called binary-i386 because dos will only allow 8 characters in filenames. Is this a catch-22 situation? Would it be possible for me to have Linux read a zip-file set from the disk-drive in order to install the files directly to the Linux-portion of the hd? If so, how? (the Linux box hasn't got a cd-drive, neither a ppp-connection). Regards, and thanx for your patience... Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer
Newbie installation troubles -dos/linux
Hi Debians I'm still in the process of installing. I managed to mount the dos-partition in dselect, but now it wants the exact folder-structure to be copied on the dos-partition in order to install. The problem is: I can't make a folder called binary-i386 because dos will only allow 8 characters in filenames. Is this a catch-22 situation? Would it be possible for me to have Linux read a zip-file set from the disk-drive in order to install the files directly to the Linux-portion of the hd? If so, how? (the Linux box hasn't got a cd-drive, neither a ppp-connection). Regards, and thanx for your patience... Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer
SV: A better telnet?
Try Reflection4 from WRQ Inc. It's not free (sorry). I use it at work (WinNT/LAN/Firewall) to emulate all sorts of terminals, and I'm very satisfied. It has extended setup possibilities including keyboard mapping, color, high-powered scripting/logging and so on. Vitux -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Mark Wright [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:8. juni 1999 19:44 Til: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: A better telnet? I often need to telnet from my NT box to my Debian server. Of course, this means I lose everything from Vim syntax highlighting to sensible Delete and Backspace key mappings. What I really want is the equivalent of the Linux console, but remotely from a Win32 machine. Does such a thing exist? --- Mark Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
SV: A little further: Short newbie question
Thanks a tremendous lot for all the help. It really helps keeping my spirit up as a newbie. I managed to mount the dos partition allright, but it seems like dselect wants an exact copy of the ftp-site, which is a problem since I can't make the directory binary-i386 with only 8 characters allowed in dos. Seems like I'm gonna have to borrow a cd-drive off of somebody and try to do the installation from there, alternatively (re)install the winbastard in the dos-partition to be able to use longer names. Damn. Anyone got any brilliant ideas for a (masochist?!) newbie?! Regards Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer... -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Kent West [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:8. juni 1999 19:15 Til: Wichmann, Viggo Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Emne: Re: A little further: Short newbie question [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, now I got a little further: I typed /dev/hda and dselect asks: Enter filesystem type for dev/hda: What's linuxian for a dos filesystem? Vitux -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Wichmann, Viggo Sendt:8. juni 1999 16:24 Til: 'debian user' Emne: Short newbie question Hi Debians Whats the partition's block device name? I'm trying to install Debian from the dos-partition using dselect. I copied alle the files from the ftp(main, etc.)-archives and put them into the dos partition. I believe Linux should be able to see the dos-part., but I don't know the path to it in linux-speak. (It worked fine a week ago, in my first attempt, but that was only the base system). I tried putting /dev/hda1/ but got the error: /dev/hda1/ is not a block device. What am I doing wrong? (Yes I did check the Installing debian gnu/Linux manual, but found only basic inst. info., which I am getting familiar with...) Regards Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer. Since it worked before during a base install, I about half-wonder if that partition didn't get clobbered somehow during that base install. Can you still boot into DOS/Windows okay? If so, then the partition is still fine. If not, then perhaps you need to verify that you are using the correct specification. To do this, get to a VT screen (if you're in the installer program, you can press Ctrl-Alt-F2 to switch to the second virtual terminal). Then run cfdisk (or fdisk for a more cryptic version); this program will show you what partitions you have where (you've already run this once during the base install, so it should look familiar). If everything looks fine, you might try mounting the partition manually. Again, from a virtual terminal, as root, type something like this: mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /drivec You'll need to use whatever cfdisk showed as your dos partition in place of the /dev/hda1, and the /drivec directory must already exist. If not, you can create it with mkdir /drivec. (Alternatively, use /mnt instead of /drivec; it probably already exists.) One final idea; do an ls -l /dev/hd* | more command. This will list all the hd* items in the /dev directory. You should see one named /dev/hda1 (or whatever your dos partition is on) and the first character on the line should be a b (next to the rw-r- type stuff, which means it's a block device; c means it's a character device, etc). If it's missing or doesn't have the b, report it to this list so the more experienced folks can help you out.
Newbie trouble: How to log on as root
Hi Debians I'm a newbie; just managed to boot my 486/66 (28 ram, 540 WD HD) onto Linux late last night, and all seems to be well and good, only I can't install anything. Dselect won't let me choose the access method to use (I'm installing from the dos-partition, because the computer isn't connected to the internet). What dselect does is: loads fine, no errors. When I choose 0 Access enter it empties the screen and tells me this at the bottom: dselect: unable to open/create access method lockfile: Permission denied and the $-prompt. My guess is: 1. I have to be root to do this 2. I could have set something wrong when assigning privileges to (the one and only) user: me?! How do I change from user to root when Linux by default asks for my user password on startup? Is it possible to change the user-privileges to allow me a large degree of freedom within the system as user (suppose it is, but how?!) I can't wait to exterminate my microsoft apps, and I'm really excited about this, so I'm looking forward to your answers. Regards Vitux
SV: OT: dual processor question
Hi. I can't recall any ps/2 model being able to run a dual processor setup, definitely not the old ones. What the other socket is for is most likely a coprocessor, or FPU, which would speed things up a bit when running programs that have the capability of using an FPU, like CAD/CAM applications, some graphical and layout progs and so on. In my opinion the most efficient way of upgrading your old PS/2's would be to install more ram. Ram is good for all functions in the computer, not just the floating-point calculations. About breaking the 'board: It depends which proc's are installed. Late 486's and on mostly have a small lever on the side of the socket, which you lift and the proc' is released. 386: use moderate violence. Try to support the 'board so it won't die from stress. A cowboy-trick is to gently wedge a small screwdriver between the proc' and socket and try to pry it off. Good Luck Vitux Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: ktb [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:7. juni 1999 17:21 Til: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: Re: OT: dual processor question I've got three old IBM PS/2 #70s. There looks to be an extra socket for a processor on the motherboard. I don't know if it would really help to speed up the system or not as they only have 4 MB of RAM, or even if it would work. I was thinking about trying to add a processor to one of the computers but how do you get the thing off? This may be an incredibly stupid question but when I pull on the processor I'm afraid I'm going to break the motherboard. Thanks, kent Robert Rati wrote: Yes this is true, to some extent. YOu have to have two processors with the same stepping and revision in order to dual-proc them. I have heard though, that you can have two processors of different stepping and revision numbers and still multi-proc them, but your performance may suffer a little. Rob On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Christian Pernegger wrote: Is it true that two Pentium II 400 have to have a same number of some kind to use them in dual mode. I'd intended to buy a dual board and add a new proc. to my 400 but someone told me that wouldn't work Comments appreciated tia Christian -Original Message- From: D'jinnie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 5:42 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: /dev/audio Never mind. It helps to go through old emails first before you post. I just don't understand why stuff like that is not created right away... --- ... After all, all he did was string together a lot of old, well-known quotations. -- H. L. Mencken, on Shakespeare D'jinnie/Jinn, encountered on IRC and select MU**. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key ICQ #2878130 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null === [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Role-Player, Babylon 5 fanatic 1998-99 Aka Khyron the Backstabber : ICQ# 2325055 Homepage: www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/ratirh Happiness comes in short spurts. Don't be fooled. === -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
SV: Help!!! Linux plus IBM! again :(
Hi Gancho A friend of mine (IBM-expert, former dealer) tells me you can download the setup disks from IBM's homepage. I dunno the adress, but it can't be hard to find. I'm gonna do this myself as I seem to have lost the disks for my old N51. Good Luck Vito -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Peter Allen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:2. juni 1999 22:15 Til: debian-user Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: Re: Help!!! Linux plus IBM! again :( I think I have read somewhere it is ctrl-alt-del then possibly some other ctrl-alt combination. If all else feels, disconect the keyboard, and something in the bios definatly comes up then. (I'm not sure whether you can get in the bios itself from that though, but its worth a try.) Peter Allen Gancho Tenev Tenev wrote: Hi !!! I did not speak about Debian Linux Instalation ! :) ( nor for rescue nor bootup diskette !!! ) Some IBM computers ( may be all ) have got setup ( for their hardware ) on their HDD ( on separate hdd partition ). On other computers I press DEL and enter in setup program to configure HDD, time, IRQ, memory, power management etc... I don't know how to do this on IBM PC (PS/2) ... There is a diskette for this I am not sure ... :(( If I install Linux on sertain partition ( remove DOS FAT16 partition ) and put in MBR Lilo things I AM AFRAID I WILL DESTROY something !!! If Linux instalation destroys something , I haven't got such diskette so I CANNOT configure hdd, time , IRQ ... etc. ( This is my problem !! Anybody knows what I should do !!! Sorry for I cannot explane this at first time !!! ( may be because of my bad english !:) Thanks for help !!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yo. Don't need no ibm-setup-diskette. Get an installation cd from Debian or RedHat or whatever, should be fairly easy, or download the thing from ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ There's also a very helpful installation guide in Debian's ftp-site, else try this: http://visar.csustan.edu:8000/giveaway_dl.html If you're using diskettes, be prepared for hell of a job. I did it once, and I'm not doing it again. CD is by far the easiest, lots less trouble, no keeping track of files and no bad diskettes. You can also do a part-diskette, part-net installation, but I have no experience with this. A tiny program called FIPS will repartition your hd w/out any trouble. Worked great for me. Available on most linux-ftp's. Can't kill your computer, but might make it usable... Good Luck! Vitux -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Gancho Tenev Tenev [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:31. maj 1999 15:40 Til: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: Help!!! Linux plus IBM! Hi!!! I have IBM 386 , 16 MB RAM , and 200 MB HDD. I have DOS (fat16) partition on HDD... I want to run linux on ext2 partition... But I don't know anything about IBM SETUP partition on HDD... I know that there is a setup-diskette . It runs setup-program that configure IBM hardware things :)... But I haven`t got such diskette... :( I am going to remove DOS-partition ... and replace it with ext2 partition... I will use LILO boot loader ... Will I have a problem of some kind if I do this way!!! I am afraid that I will kill this IBM computer because of my ignorance :))) HELP!!! Any Ideas!!! Gancho. #;o) P.S. Sorry for my bad english ... I hope You understand me ... and help me :))) THANKS!!!... Fil: Card for Gancho Tenev Tenev -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
SV: Help!!! Linux plus IBM! again :(
Yo Gancho Think I know where you're at. The problem is accessing the IBM's bios/cmos w/out the special IBM system diskette. I used to have one for my ancient ibm laptop, but I can't find it right now, and I'm not even sure it works on a stationary system. A way of getting around it might be to install/deinstall some piece of hardware (f.x.change the ram-size) and see if the change will provoke some reaction from the built-in setup system. Might allow you to set other stuff too. Did this once on my laptop years ago, I believe. Anyway, what's the problem? The thing to do is go around the ibm-crap; you will be allowed to make other types of partitions than dos on an ibm disc. What you do is use fips, and just leave ibm-dos on its own (minimal) partition. You'll still be able to boot on the old dos-system using a normal dos-boot-diskette. This worked fine for me. Unless you want to change the hardware setup in the thing (f.x. put in a larger disc) there's no reason to make any changes in the cmos. Whatever you do, you can't destroy anything in the machine, only make it usable. If all else fails, why not try contacting IBM? I wouldnt wonder if they still supported that ol' thing. Good Luck Vitux Murphy's Law: Anything that can go wrong, will sooner or later. -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Gancho Tenev Tenev [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:1. juni 1999 09:36 Til: Wichmann, Viggo; debian-user@lists.debian.org Emne: Help!!! Linux plus IBM! again :( Hi !!! I did not speak about Debian Linux Instalation ! :) ( nor for rescue nor bootup diskette !!! ) Some IBM computers ( may be all ) have got setup ( for their hardware ) on their HDD ( on separate hdd partition ). On other computers I press DEL and enter in setup program to configure HDD, time, IRQ, memory, power management etc... I don't know how to do this on IBM PC (PS/2) ... There is a diskette for this I am not sure ... :(( If I install Linux on sertain partition ( remove DOS FAT16 partition ) and put in MBR Lilo things I AM AFRAID I WILL DESTROY something !!! If Linux instalation destroys something , I haven't got such diskette so I CANNOT configure hdd, time , IRQ ... etc. ( This is my problem !! Anybody knows what I should do !!! Sorry for I cannot explane this at first time !!! ( may be because of my bad english !:) Thanks for help !!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yo. Don't need no ibm-setup-diskette. Get an installation cd from Debian or RedHat or whatever, should be fairly easy, or download the thing from ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ There's also a very helpful installation guide in Debian's ftp-site, else try this: http://visar.csustan.edu:8000/giveaway_dl.html If you're using diskettes, be prepared for hell of a job. I did it once, and I'm not doing it again. CD is by far the easiest, lots less trouble, no keeping track of files and no bad diskettes. You can also do a part-diskette, part-net installation, but I have no experience with this. A tiny program called FIPS will repartition your hd w/out any trouble. Worked great for me. Available on most linux-ftp's. Can't kill your computer, but might make it usable... Good Luck! Vitux -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Gancho Tenev Tenev [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:31. maj 1999 15:40 Til: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: Help!!! Linux plus IBM! Hi!!! I have IBM 386 , 16 MB RAM , and 200 MB HDD. I have DOS (fat16) partition on HDD... I want to run linux on ext2 partition... But I don't know anything about IBM SETUP partition on HDD... I know that there is a setup-diskette . It runs setup-program that configure IBM hardware things :)... But I haven`t got such diskette... :( I am going to remove DOS-partition ... and replace it with ext2 partition... I will use LILO boot loader ... Will I have a problem of some kind if I do this way!!! I am afraid that I will kill this IBM computer because of my ignorance :))) HELP!!! Any Ideas!!! Gancho. #;o) P.S. Sorry for my bad english ... I hope You understand me ... and help me :))) THANKS!!!... Fil: Card for Gancho Tenev Tenev Fil: Card for Gancho Tenev Tenev
SV: HELP!!!
Hi Kyle Im a newbie too! I've got almost the same problem as you do. But: are you installing from a CD? You might want to try specifying the path to the cd when using the dselect command. There seems (from my limited experience w/ dos and Linux) to be a problem w/ the partition table, some little flag or toggle must have gone wrong. I tried a couple of times before it worked. If you still have a dos/windows section (partition) on your harddisk, you should have three: one which is dos (usually /dev/hda1) and two for Linux: a file system partition (e.g. /dev/hda2) (which is where you store your stuff) and a swap partition (e.g. /dev/hda3). This is the way it worked for me. (I had to install the thing from the dos partition, since the machine aint got no cd-drive). From what I can gather from various sources of information, though I haven't gotten as far as to installing the lot, it seems that linux is really just a unix-like os, and if you want a graphical interface, you have to install it. I believe it's called X-windows or just X. There is supposed to be both win and mac emulators out there too. -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Kyle Landon [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:29. maj 1999 09:03 Til: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: HELP!!! Hi all, First of all I am a newbie. Second I cleared my c: and wipped win and all files gone. Not to upset about that, I just want to get Debian working. I can log on as my superuser and user so I can access the program. I cannot seem to do much at the $. I run dselect with my root account but cannot find the packages.cd. I thought Debian had a graphical interface. What might I be doing or have done that is wrong? I get the error message /dev/hda1 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced. Thank you, Kyle ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
