Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-18 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-04-05 16:55:57, schrieb zfh: Its too bad that you never read the documents you site. Look at the document on treatment of prisoners of war. The terrorists you seem in sympathy with (see the first line you wrote in the previous response) make not atempt to qualify under aritcle 4.

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-18 Thread steef
Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2007-04-05 16:55:57, schrieb zfh: Its too bad that you never read the documents you site. Look at the document on treatment of prisoners of war. The terrorists you seem in sympathy with (see the first line you wrote in the previous response) make not atempt to

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-18 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:14:44 + steef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michelle Konzack wrote: [...] So you think, the kidnaping of 17 german and 8 french cizizen and threeting as terrorists (7 of them are in Guantanamo) without any judgement since over 3 years is extremely civil ??? The

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-18 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 19:43 +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote: I had hoped that this thread had finally died. No such luck. It had a mass SMTP drive-by at the hands of Michelle Konzack. It is truly amazing how well Michelle keeps the old things a goin'. Just when they run out of water and fire for the

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 03:23:01PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: It had a mass SMTP drive-by at the hands of Michelle Konzack. ROFLOL!! A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-18 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 06:14:44PM +, steef wrote: i could not agree more than i do with michelle on this point. the us-government has become a lawless corporate steered oligarchy. ethical criteria, the basis of all law, have in this police-state been replaced by the white house

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-18 Thread steef
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 06:14:44PM +, steef wrote: i could not agree more than i do with michelle on this point. the us-government has become a lawless corporate steered oligarchy. ethical criteria, the basis of all law, have in this police-state been

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-18 Thread steef
Liam O'Toole wrote: On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:14:44 + steef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michelle Konzack wrote: [...] So you think, the kidnaping of 17 german and 8 french cizizen and threeting as terrorists (7 of them are in Guantanamo) without any judgement since over 3 years is

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:26:44 -0700, zfh wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 16:55:57 -0700, zfh wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ..are you referring to the passengers onboard flight UA93 on 9/11??? On Let's roll! these civilians _became_

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 20:33:39 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..I have seen web stuff pointing to Ariel Sharon being unhappy joining W's war on terror on NATO's side because of the full 4 Geneva Conventions, instead lobbying these Wannsee language games, this

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 21:27:32 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 10:53:31PM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 16:33:28 -0700, zfh wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry to break into your offtopic rants, but I can't resist this one.

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 21:39:47 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 11:33:39PM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 22:20:21 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No, the media has suspect motives. The Red Cross generally

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-06 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 02:13:50PM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..for further court martial litigation advice, hire me or a lawyer. The only thing for which I would hire you would be to prosecute me. Your complete divorcement from reality would certainly guarantee that the jury would acquit :-)

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-06 Thread zfh
--- Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 16:55:57 -0700, zfh wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ..are you referring to the passengers onboard flight UA93 on 9/11??? On Let's roll! these civilians _became_ lawful combattants under Arnticle 4A(6) in the 3'rd Convention:

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-06 Thread Steve Lamb
Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..I have seen web stuff pointing to Ariel Sharon being unhappy joining W's war on terror on NATO's side because of the full 4 Geneva Conventions, instead lobbying these Wannsee language games, this is why it took them so long (November 2001) to join in. You really

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 16:33:28 -0700, zfh wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry to break into your offtopic rants, but I can't resist this one. Under the Geneva Conventions, enemy combatants that wear no uniforms and ..like the passengers onboard flight UA93 on 9/11? commit acts of murder and

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 22:20:21 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 05:22:30PM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 18:31:11 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm sorry, but who decided that the memos were of dubious

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-05 Thread zfh
--- Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 16:33:28 -0700, zfh wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry to break into your offtopic rants, but I can't resist this one. Under the Geneva Conventions, enemy combatants that wear no uniforms and ..like the passengers onboard

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-05 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 10:53:31PM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 16:33:28 -0700, zfh wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry to break into your offtopic rants, but I can't resist this one. Under the Geneva Conventions, enemy combatants that wear no uniforms and ..like the

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-05 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 11:33:39PM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 22:20:21 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No, the media has suspect motives. The Red Cross generally has OK motives, though they are a bit left-leaning in their official views. ..the

Re: [OT] a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 21:06:27 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Daniel B. wrote: That's an unrealistic case that distracts from the rest of the cases. It's rare the you _really_ know. (Remember that 24 is fiction.) Oh, I am quite aware it is fiction. The problem isn't that

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 16:55:57 -0700, zfh wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 16:33:28 -0700, zfh wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry to break into your offtopic rants, but I can't resist this one. Under the Geneva Conventions, enemy

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-04 Thread judd
On 3 Apr, Steve Lamb wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find the actions of these terrorists just as abhorrent as you do. I doubt that since as far as I have seen until just now you have done nothing but defend them. Show me one instance where I defended the actions of

Re: [OT] a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-04 Thread Daniel B.
Steve Lamb wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Not to mention that such actions are counterproductive. If someone is tortured into confessing to a crime, it is always suspect. Yes, but that isn't exactly what is going on, is it? What's going in is called, if I recall correctly,

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:21:11 -0400, judd wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 3 Apr, Steve Lamb wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find the actions of these terrorists just as abhorrent as you do. I doubt that since as far as I have seen until just now you have done nothing but

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 18:31:11 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 09:10:32AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2 Apr, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 04:20:04PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since some of the al-Qaeda and

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-03-27 12:19:07, schrieb Celejar: On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:06:43 +0200 Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Why thre are 38 Synagoges in Iran? Why there are wide over 10 Jews in Iran? There were in 1948. there are only several tens of thousands now, apparently

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-04 Thread judd
On 3 Apr, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 09:10:32AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... * Why does everything need to be some sort of vast conspiracy? Remember Hanlon's Razor? It could have just as easily been someone overlooking something, someone going

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-04 Thread zfh
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 04:20:04PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since some of the al-Qaeda and taliban prisoner's were in fact denied their GC protections, by being tortured, mistreated, etc., it's pretty obvious that the QCs don't apply provision was the operational

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-04 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 05:22:30PM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 18:31:11 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm sorry, but who decided that the memos were of dubious legal merit? The media? Please forgive me if I consider their motives suspect.

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-04 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 05:21:06PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3 Apr, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 09:10:32AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... * Why does everything need to be some sort of vast conspiracy? Remember Hanlon's Razor? It could have

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-04 Thread Steve Lamb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Show me one instance where I defended the actions of terrorists. This thread, pretty much every message you post to it. or non-existent. Show me one case where this has happened, since you state that is what's going on. Well, that's a lovely standard.

Re: [OT] a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-04 Thread Steve Lamb
Daniel B. wrote: That's an unrealistic case that distracts from the rest of the cases. It's rare the you _really_ know. (Remember that 24 is fiction.) Oh, I am quite aware it is fiction. The problem isn't that I have forgotten that 24 is fiction the problem is that you, and others, do not

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-03 Thread judd
On 2 Apr, Steve Lamb wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since some of the al-Qaeda and taliban prisoner's were in fact denied their GC protections, by being tortured, mistreated, etc., it's pretty obvious that the QCs don't apply provision was the operational part of this order, and not taken

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-03 Thread judd
On 2 Apr, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 04:20:04PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since some of the al-Qaeda and taliban prisoner's were in fact denied their GC protections, by being tortured, mistreated, etc., it's pretty obvious that the QCs don't apply provision

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 21:39:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 04:53:08PM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ...a real part of Sissy Boy George's Text of order signed by President Bush on Feb. 7, 2002, outlining treatment of al-Qaida and Taliban

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-03 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 09:10:32AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2 Apr, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 04:20:04PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since some of the al-Qaeda and taliban prisoner's were in fact denied their GC protections, by being tortured,

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-03 Thread Steve Lamb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find the actions of these terrorists just as abhorrent as you do. I doubt that since as far as I have seen until just now you have done nothing but defend them. Not to mention that such actions are counterproductive. If someone is tortured into

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-02 Thread judd
On 30 Mar, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:02:49AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Interesting. sarcasmIs this where he advocates torture?/sarcasm: Of course, our values as a nation, values that we share with many nations in the world, call for us to treat

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-02 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 08:51:09AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, actually the executive order was written to obfuscate the issue. It was pretty widely reported in the press that this order, and the memos that it references were specifically written to provide immunity to

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 08:12, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 08:51:09AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, actually the executive order was written to obfuscate the issue. It was pretty widely reported in the press that this order,

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-02 Thread Paul E Condon
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 08:38:34AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 08:12, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 08:51:09AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, actually the executive order was written to obfuscate the

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-02 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 09:12:44 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 08:51:09AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, actually the executive order was written to obfuscate the issue. It was pretty widely reported in the press that this order, and the

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-02 Thread judd
On 2 Apr, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 08:51:09AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, actually the executive order was written to obfuscate the issue. It was pretty widely reported in the press that this order, and the memos that it references were specifically

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-02 Thread Steve Lamb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since some of the al-Qaeda and taliban prisoner's were in fact denied their GC protections, by being tortured, mistreated, etc., it's pretty obvious that the QCs don't apply provision was the operational part of this order, and not taken out of context quite badly.

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 16:26, Steve Lamb wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since some of the al-Qaeda and taliban prisoner's were in fact denied their GC protections, by being tortured, mistreated, etc., it's pretty obvious that the QCs don't apply provision

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-02 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 04:53:08PM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ...a real part of Sissy Boy George's Text of order signed by President Bush on Feb. 7, 2002, outlining treatment of al-Qaida and Taliban detainees? And if so, Why Is It Not A War Crime? You apparently missed the part about the

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-02 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 04:20:04PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since some of the al-Qaeda and taliban prisoner's were in fact denied their GC protections, by being tortured, mistreated, etc., it's pretty obvious that the QCs don't apply provision was the operational part of this

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-01 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 03/30/07 09:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] The order in question is this: http://www.kron.com/global/story.asp?s=1962000ClientType=Printable Changing subject... Text of Bush's Order on Treatment of Detainees [schnip]

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/01/07 17:44, s. keeling wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 03/30/07 09:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] The order in question is this: http://www.kron.com/global/story.asp?s=1962000ClientType=Printable Changing subject...

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-30 Thread judd
On 29 Mar, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 03:36:58PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's probably referring to the executive order signed on 7 Feb, 2002. In it, W claims the authority to set aside the Geneva conventions for Taliban and al-Quaeda prisoners, thereby

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 09:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] The order in question is this: http://www.kron.com/global/story.asp?s=1962000ClientType=Printable Changing subject... Text of Bush's Order on Treatment of Detainees Posted: June 22,

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-30 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:02:49AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29 Mar, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 03:36:58PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's probably referring to the executive order signed on 7 Feb, 2002. In it, W claims the authority to set

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-29 Thread judd
On 26 Mar, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 05:10:19AM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ... ..anything on international courts or the 4 Geneva Conventions? Nope. What I find interesting is that you claimed that Bush issued some executive allowing him to evade war crimes

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-29 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 14:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26 Mar, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 05:10:19AM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ... ..anything on international courts or the 4 Geneva Conventions? Nope. What I find interesting is

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-29 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 03:36:58PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26 Mar, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 05:10:19AM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ... ..anything on international courts or the 4 Geneva Conventions? Nope. What I find interesting is that you

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-28 Thread Daniel B.
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: yeah, but Oregon still doesn't trust me to pump my own gas. Of course, with some of the crap I see around here, that's probably a good thing. Is it that they don't trust you to pump the gas safely, or is it protectionism for gas-station worker as I think it was

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:06:34 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am 2007-03-19 02:04:42, schrieb Arnt Karlsen: ..as EU members? The EU has its own (token) military force, but I am not aware of any Swedish troops in Afghanistan. Me too... ..peace. First we need to hang

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-28 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:16:53 + (UTC) Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:06:34 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am 2007-03-19 02:04:42, schrieb Arnt Karlsen: [snip] Or, you will have to _forgive_ Osama for felling the WTC. ;o) Do you

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 18:36:26 -0400, Celejar wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:16:53 + (UTC) Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:06:34 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am 2007-03-19 02:04:42, schrieb Arnt Karlsen: [snip]

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-03-11 00:15:53, schrieb Steve Lamb: * US Friends are few and far between, except when the US gives them money. Even then, many just take the money and funnel it into anti-USAian activities. This one is funny. You do realize that the coalition for Iraq

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-03-13 12:11:35, schrieb Mike McCarty: This is ridiculous. Atomic fission was a known phenomenon before WWII even started. This is right, but without the german knowlege the would no have developed the Nagasaki/Hiroshima bomb so fast... Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-03-13 12:10:02, schrieb Mike McCarty: It is not. We just don't do things through the Gov't, and that's something to be proud of. Estimates place the USA charitable giving at approx. $250 Billion USD total, and between $1.5 and $2.5 Billion for the tsunami alone. 1.2 to 2 Billion

He? She? - IT! -- The creature of an other world! [was Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me]

2007-03-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-03-14 20:27:30, schrieb Joe Hart: my dog, your dog, her dog, his dog, its dog, our dog, their dog. That is all of the personal pronouns referring to possession of a dog. In Spanish you have one more. It is extremely impolite to refer to people as an it, so his or her are the only

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-03-14 11:42:47, schrieb Kent West: his, IIRC. Michelle/Michèle is a female name in France ;-) and Michel the male name. But with me it is MUCH MORE complicate since I am NOT he or she. Maybe it since I am Hermaphrodite :-)) but living as woman. As I was in Iran last year it was

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-03-15 13:59:24, schrieb Ron Johnson: What mistake do you mean? Michelle *is* a women. ^^^ Multiple personalities? ROTFL! -- How right you are and don't know! :-) Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-03-15 10:19:16, schrieb Kent West: D'oh! That means I've created all this mess with my mis-remembrance. Sorry, Michelle. Oops! -- Belive it, I am not angry! For arround 11 years I was thinking I am a transsexual but then one time I have made an Genetic-Test and... Oops, - I am

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-03-14 07:34:36, schrieb Steve Lamb: Even better is that it is France, where she claims to be from, that has the close to 22% unemployment rate among their youth. At least if NPR can be believed. In France it is higher then 8% since the GOV hide it by short term continue studies

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-03-19 01:16:16, schrieb Arnt Karlsen: ..you missed the boat here. Daddy Boy George failing his command for the 2'nd time letting Saddam gas Kurds and massacre Shiias, thaught the There is no proof that Sadam had gased the kurds... I was there after (german/french UN Mission as I where

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-03-19 02:04:42, schrieb Arnt Karlsen: ..as EU members? The EU has its own (token) military force, but I am not aware of any Swedish troops in Afghanistan. Me too... ..peace. First we need to hang all our war criminals, then they have to hang theirs, all under the strictest

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-03-18 21:24:23, schrieb Roberto C. Sánchez: Sorry. Geneva conventions applies to lawful combatants. Now, if any coalition troops have committed crimes in violation of the Geneva conventions, then yes they need to prosecuted. Now, the terrorists are afforded no such protection under

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:05:43 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 09:45:58AM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 02:28:24 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You keep claiming this, but have not provided evidence. ..I

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-27 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:06:43 +0200 Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Why thre are 38 Synagoges in Iran? Why there are wide over 10 Jews in Iran? There were in 1948. there are only several tens of thousands now, apparently because of the rise to power of the fundamentalist

Re: He? She? - IT! -- The creature of an other world! [was Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me]

2007-03-27 Thread Nyizsnyik Ferenc
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:58:26 +0200 Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 2007-03-14 20:27:30, schrieb Joe Hart: my dog, your dog, her dog, his dog, its dog, our dog, their dog. That is all of the personal pronouns referring to possession of a dog. In Spanish you have one more.

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-27 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 05:06:43PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: Hey, your name tell me you are not a real US-American... Are you origin Mexican? - Most (percentage) US-Combatants are Mexican... They are killing Irakies for a US-Green-Card... Your ability to excel at displaying ignorance

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-27 Thread dave
on Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 07:39:37PM -0400 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: Your ability to excel at displaying ignorance is unmatched. Regards, -Roberto Bravo. Regards, Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/25/07 22:39, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:41:22 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/25/07 17:47, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [snip] ..you deny the Let's roll!-people

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 02:28:24 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 05:10:19AM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 21:00:39 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, let's see. Here is a list of every executive order

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 02:42:14 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/25/07 22:39, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:41:22 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote in Article [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: Sometimes calling a kook a kook and an idiot and idiot is the only statement you've got.  If it's accurate it's not ad hominem. I dispute the accuracy of your assessment based on your inability to cite a source

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-26 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 09:45:58AM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 02:28:24 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You keep claiming this, but have not provided evidence. ..I have provided ample pointers for anything but neocon shills and war criminals, if

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 21:29:33 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 01:01:29AM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [0] http://www.opiniojuris.org/posts/1169078731.shtml ..neocon propaganda show, ignores the fact that the Taliban was the Afghan

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:59:00 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 03:56:51PM -0400, Celejar wrote: It's not a veto issue; the constitution (Article 2 Section 2 Clause 2) states: He [the President] shall have Power, by and with the Advice and

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:59:47 -0400, judd wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 23 Mar, Ron Johnson wrote: ... I'd assume that the US wouldn't be considered a signatory to an international agreement until it's also ratified. Perhaps I'm wrong about the terminology. We (the US) are

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-26 Thread steef
Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:59:47 -0400, judd wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 23 Mar, Ron Johnson wrote: snip. ..another way is consider the military effect, such as Norwegian gas turbines emitting CO2, causing some heat up and sea level rise, flooding low Pacific

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/26/07 14:20, steef wrote: Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:59:47 -0400, judd wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 23 Mar, Ron Johnson wrote: snip. ..another way is consider the military effect, such as Norwegian gas

Re: Problem with mouse in X [WAS: Re: a dumb query? pls humor me]

2007-03-26 Thread Kent West
William Mok wrote: I installed X windows system under Debian 3.1.r2, I typed 'startx' but I got the following error: xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice No such device Generic Mouse: cannot open input device PreInit failed for input device Generic Mouse Does anyone

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
..reposting, last try was lost in gmane's auth queue. On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:31:03 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 08:02:55PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 21:24:23 -0400, Roberto wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Now, if

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:20:41 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ..reposting, last try was lost in gmane's auth queue. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/18/07 20:24, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 02:04:42AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/25/07 17:47, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [snip] ..you deny the Let's roll!-people aboard flight UA93 their lawful KIA status, when they took up arms against the invading enemy. Who says the UA93 passengers were KIA? For one thing, those passengers

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-25 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 10:47:41PM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..reposting, last try was lost in gmane's auth queue. On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:31:03 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Reference? Where has President Bush stated that war criminals should not be

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
..reposting, last try was lost in gmane's auth queue. On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:21:58 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 11:08:42PM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:13:41 -0400, Celejar wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It is not at all

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:10:22 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/21/07 20:21, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: [snip] The Taliban occupied 95% of the territory, called the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. The remaining 5%

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:30:26 -0400, Celejar wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:08:42 + (UTC) Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:13:41 -0400, Celejar wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [snip] [0] http://www.opiniojuris.org/posts/1169078731.shtml

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:40:59 -0400, Celejar wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:59:35 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 21 Mar, Celejar wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:58:56 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Acutually, it is the 3rd Geneva convention

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-25 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 01:01:29AM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [0] http://www.opiniojuris.org/posts/1169078731.shtml ..neocon propaganda show, ignores the fact that the Taliban was the Afghan government on 9/11 2001 when W declared war and invoked NATO treaty Article 5 and by

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-25 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 01:10:14AM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:10:22 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: But... they weren't in uniform. (Did the IEA even *have* an Army?) ..define uniform under the Conventions. ;o) Prisoners of war, in the sense of

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:41:22 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/25/07 17:47, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [snip] ..you deny the Let's roll!-people aboard flight UA93 their lawful KIA status, when they took up arms against the invading

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-25 Thread William Mok
I installed X windows system under Debian 3.1.r2, I typed 'startx' but I got the following error: xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice No such device Generic Mouse: cannot open input device PreInit failed for input device Generic Mouse Does anyone know how this problem

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-25 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 09:32:22PM -0700, William Mok wrote: I installed X windows system under Debian 3.1.r2, I typed 'startx' but I got the following error: xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice No such device Generic Mouse: cannot open input device PreInit failed

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