Re: Need advice on best SMP mainboard for Debian

2002-06-19 Thread Derek Gladding
On Wednesday 19 June 2002 10:11 am, John Foster wrote:
> I have decided to build a new workstation and am asking for users
> input as to the best mainboard for the money available. I can go
> pretty much any direction i.e. AMD,Intel or possibly Alpha but I do
> not have any experience with Alpha. I am seriously considering the
> Tyan S2460 Dual AMD board. Any comments are appreciated. If you feel
> this is off topic please reply anyway off the list. Thanks!

I'm running mixed Woody/Sid, home-cooked 2.4.18 kernel on a Tyan dual Athlon
MP setup (S2460 mobo or very similar), Not had a single problem so far, box 
runs 
very sweet, very fast, and very stable. For the work I'm doing, this particular 
mobo/CPU
setup is at the sweet spot for performance/dollar. (YMMV of course, but I'd 
recommend it as a good setup for a high-end dev/simulation/crunching box).

- Derek


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Re: Need advice on best SMP mainboard for Debian

2002-06-19 Thread Christopher Swingley
* Derek Gladding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-Jun-19 15:46
* AKDT]:
> > I am seriously considering the Tyan S2460 Dual AMD board. Any
> > comments are appreciated. If you feel this is off topic please reply
> > anyway off the list. Thanks!
>
> I'm running mixed Woody/Sid, home-cooked 2.4.18 kernel on a Tyan dual
> Athlon MP setup (S2460 mobo or very similar), Not had a single problem
> so far, box runs very sweet, very fast, and very stable. For the work
> I'm doing, this particular mobo/CPU setup is at the sweet spot for
> performance/dollar. (YMMV of course, but I'd recommend it as a good
> setup for a high-end dev/simulation/crunching box).

Make sure you've got very clean power, excellent cooling, and a good
high-wattage power supply.  I've had trouble with most of the dual
Tyan boards shutting themselves down or worse, frying themselves.
Putting the machines in a climate controlled room (65 degrees) on
conditioned power has been the only solution.

I've found the dual Pentium boards to be more stable and less finicky,
and I'll probably buy those from now on after the trouble I've had
with Tyan dual Athlon chipsets.

YMMV,

Chris
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Re: Need advice on best SMP mainboard for Debian

2002-06-19 Thread Derek Gladding
On Wednesday 19 June 2002 08:19 pm, Christopher Swingley wrote:
> * Derek Gladding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-Jun-19 15:46
>
> * AKDT]:

[snip]

> Make sure you've got very clean power, excellent cooling, and a good
> high-wattage power supply.  I've had trouble with most of the dual
> Tyan boards shutting themselves down or worse, frying themselves.
> Putting the machines in a climate controlled room (65 degrees) on
> conditioned power has been the only solution.
>

I used a 400W PSU instead of the min-spec 300W, stuck an extra fan in
the case and was fairly liberal with the thermal grease. So far, no problems
even in an 80+ degree room. All my machines are sitting on the clean side
of a fairly chunky UPS, so I have no idea of how sensitive they are to dirty
power, though I'd suspect that using an over-rated PSU deals with a fair
chunk of that.

> I've found the dual Pentium boards to be more stable and less
> finicky, and I'll probably buy those from now on after the trouble
> I've had with Tyan dual Athlon chipsets.
>

My experience has been the other way round - my previous machine
was a Tyan dual P3 and it needed a lot of BIOS twiddling to get it
stable. No experience with dual P4s though.

> YMMV,

Likewise ;-)

- Derek

>
> Chris


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Re: Need advice on best SMP mainboard for Debian

2002-06-20 Thread Nick Traxler
On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 07:19:59PM -0800, Christopher Swingley wrote:
> * Derek Gladding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-Jun-19 15:46
> * AKDT]:
> > > I am seriously considering the Tyan S2460 Dual AMD board. Any
> > > comments are appreciated. If you feel this is off topic please reply
> > > anyway off the list. Thanks!
> >
> > I'm running mixed Woody/Sid, home-cooked 2.4.18 kernel on a Tyan dual
> > Athlon MP setup (S2460 mobo or very similar), Not had a single problem
> > so far, box runs very sweet, very fast, and very stable. For the work
> > I'm doing, this particular mobo/CPU setup is at the sweet spot for
> > performance/dollar. (YMMV of course, but I'd recommend it as a good
> > setup for a high-end dev/simulation/crunching box).
> 
> Make sure you've got very clean power, excellent cooling, and a good
> high-wattage power supply.  I've had trouble with most of the dual
> Tyan boards shutting themselves down or worse, frying themselves.
> Putting the machines in a climate controlled room (65 degrees) on
> conditioned power has been the only solution.
> 
> I've found the dual Pentium boards to be more stable and less finicky,
> and I'll probably buy those from now on after the trouble I've had
> with Tyan dual Athlon chipsets.
> 

I've been using an Abit VP6 for about a year and a half now with no
problems. It's limited to Coppermine chips, so there are definitely
better bargains out there, but it seems to be stable as a rock. I've
read several opinions that the RAID chip should only be used as a second
IDE controller and not as a RAID controller. I plan to set up a software
RAID 5 sometime in the next year and see how fast it is.

Actually, I've never had a problem with an Abit board.
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