Re: how to config wireless card

[Gene Heskett]

On Saturday 14 January 2017 10:26:28 Lisi Reisz wrote:

> On Friday 13 January 2017 09:20:12 Long Wind wrote:
> > In XP, wireless config is easy
>
> I wish those of who are so fond of XP would just use XP.
>
> Lisi

+100

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Re: how to config wireless card

[rhkramer]

On Saturday, January 14, 2017 10:26:28 AM Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 13 January 2017 09:20:12 Long Wind wrote:
> > In XP, wireless config is easy
> 
> I wish those of who are so fond of XP would just use XP.


Not me, I'd like to see more and more people use Linux and other free and open 
source software.

Re: how to config wireless card

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 13 January 2017 09:20:12 Long Wind wrote:
> In XP, wireless config is easy

I wish those of who are so fond of XP would just use XP.

Lisi

Re: how to config wireless card

[Long Wind]

I'm not sure if wpa_suplicant is installed
the problem has been solved after changing some security options of router

Thanks!

Re: how to config wireless card

[Jan-Peter Rühmann]

wpa_suplicant installed?

Am 14.01.2017 um 08:40 schrieb Long Wind:
> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WLAN/  isn't in English, I can't understand
>
> I have installed wicd, it's great, it needn't kde/gnome
> it nearly succeed, but during authentication, it stop
> maybe i should try other encryption methods of router
>
> Thank those who reply!
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(solved)Re: how to config wireless card

[Long Wind]

after testing other security options of router, I have connected
debian wirelessly with wicd.

Thanks again to some kind users here!

Re: how to config wireless card

[Long Wind]

https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WLAN/  isn't in English, I can't understand

I have installed wicd, it's great, it needn't kde/gnome
it nearly succeed, but during authentication, it stop
maybe i should try other encryption methods of router

Thank those who reply!

Re: how to config wireless card

[Henning Follmann]

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 05:20:12PM +0800, Long Wind wrote:
>

[...]
 
> In XP, wireless config is easy

You got to stop saying this! It is annoying!
If you installed the default desktop environment (DE), which is GNOME it
would be as easy. However you insist on doing it the command line way.

So suck it up and read:
Did you already read https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi? 
At the bottom of that is a link: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse
Read that too! It explains the network managers and how you can configure
wlan in /etc/network/interfaces too.

Read it!


And finally the best advice:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Read the whole thing!



And at the end if you read all this, still have a few questions or your
wifi still is not operable or if you are intersted to configure your wifi
via systemd (which is not yet covered in the official Debian manuals) come
back and ask.





> connecting cell phone to router is easy too, just enter password
> why it's so hard in Linux?
> I don't have kde or gnome, is there any GUI tool that make it easy and
> not rely on kde/gnome?
> the installer may have some nice program that config wireless?
> should i reinstall debian??
> 





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Re: how to config wireless card

[Dan Ritter]

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 07:32:05PM +0800, Long Wind wrote:
> Thank Jan-Peter Rühmann!
> 
> iw has already been installed.
> the command "iw dev" return nothing.
> i use twm
> 
> i think wifi is mature, so connecting XP or cell phone is easy
> i wish in Linux connecting wireless is as easy as connecting ethernet

That cannot be, because wireless needs to be set up to figure
out which "wire" you want to connect to. 

> (in debian i usually config ethernet by a simple command like  "dhclient 
> eth0")

You can do that, as soon as you connect to an access-point.

Try:

iwlist wlan0 scan
to show what access-points are available

iwconfig wlan0 essid "NETWORK NAME"
to connect to an access-point called "NETWORK NAME"

and then you can do

dhclient wlan0
to get an IP address and probably a default route.

-dsr-

Re: how to config wireless card

[Long Wind]

Thank Jan-Peter Rühmann!

iw has already been installed.
the command "iw dev" return nothing.
i use twm

i think wifi is mature, so connecting XP or cell phone is easy
i wish in Linux connecting wireless is as easy as connecting ethernet
(in debian i usually config ethernet by a simple command like  "dhclient eth0")

it's late and I will follow instructions from
https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WLAN/ next day

Re: how to config wireless card

[Jan-Peter Rühmann]

You shouldn´t compare apples and Donuts here, at least compare cli 
configurations.
But that is not the Point.

I´ve used the Descriptions here https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WLAN/ to make my 
wlan work in
Herbstluftwm.

Have you installed iw?
Have you installed some Desktop Environment,  if yes which?
Try start the respective Tool from Command Line?

Why do you use Windows Desktop Tools without complaints and in Linux not?
Have you tried to setup Wifi in DOS? ;-)

Am 13.01.2017 um 10:30 schrieb Long Wind:
> Thank Johan DS!
>
> I enter a command from a
> link(https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_network_configuration)
> you offer:
>
> iw dev
sudo apt-get install iw
> the screen display nothing, where something go wrong?
>
> In XP, wireless config is easy
> connecting cell phone to router is easy too, just enter password
> why it's so hard in Linux?
> I don't have kde or gnome, is there any GUI tool that make it easy and
> not rely on kde/gnome?
> the installer may have some nice program that config wireless?
> should i reinstall debian??
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Re: how to config wireless card

[Long Wind]

Thank Johan DS!

I enter a command from a
link(https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_network_configuration)
you offer:

iw dev

the screen display nothing, where something go wrong?

In XP, wireless config is easy
connecting cell phone to router is easy too, just enter password
why it's so hard in Linux?
I don't have kde or gnome, is there any GUI tool that make it easy and
not rely on kde/gnome?
the installer may have some nice program that config wireless?
should i reinstall debian??

Re: how to config wireless card

[Johan DS]

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_network_configuration

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 2:28 AM, Long Wind  wrote:

> below is output by iwconfig
> which command should I use?
>
> lono wireless extensions.
>
> eth3  no wireless extensions.
>
> wifi0 IEEE 802.11-DS  ESSID:""
>   Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated
>   Bit Rate:0 kb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm   Sensitivity=0/65535
>   Retry limit:16   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
>   Encryption key:off
>   Power Management:off
>   Link Quality=0/100  Signal level=-113 dBm  Noise level=0 dBm
>   Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
>   Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
>
> eth4  IEEE 802.11-DS  ESSID:""
>   Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated
>   Bit Rate:0 kb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm   Sensitivity=0/65535
>   Retry limit:16   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
>   Encryption key:off
>   Power Management:off
>   Link Quality=0/100  Signal level=-113 dBm  Noise level=0 dBm
>   Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
>   Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
>
>

Re: how to config wireless card

[Long Wind]

below is output by iwconfig
which command should I use?

lono wireless extensions.

eth3  no wireless extensions.

wifi0 IEEE 802.11-DS  ESSID:""
  Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated
  Bit Rate:0 kb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm   Sensitivity=0/65535
  Retry limit:16   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
  Encryption key:off
  Power Management:off
  Link Quality=0/100  Signal level=-113 dBm  Noise level=0 dBm
  Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
  Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0

eth4  IEEE 802.11-DS  ESSID:""
  Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated
  Bit Rate:0 kb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm   Sensitivity=0/65535
  Retry limit:16   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
  Encryption key:off
  Power Management:off
  Link Quality=0/100  Signal level=-113 dBm  Noise level=0 dBm
  Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
  Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0

Re: how to config wireless card

[Henning Follmann]

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 07:09:31AM +0800, Long Wind wrote:
> Thank Henning Follmann!
> 
> >From messages displayed, I think it recognize my card
> I know kernel support my card
> I don't have gnome, i prefer to set it up on command line
> I have installed wireless package, can't figure out to how to do it.
> 


Really?
I tell you that you do not post sufficient information so anyone could help
you and this is your answer?
I am getting bored here.

And honestly, even if you prefer manual setup, your post indicates you
shouldn't.

So again learn how to post smart questions and read this:

https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi

-H

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Re: how to config wireless card

[Long Wind]

Thank Henning Follmann!

>From messages displayed, I think it recognize my card
I know kernel support my card
I don't have gnome, i prefer to set it up on command line
I have installed wireless package, can't figure out to how to do it.

Re: how to config wireless card

[Henning Follmann]

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 06:37:30AM +0800, Long Wind wrote:
> I have installed a wireless card
gratulations!
> the kernel recognize it
How do you know?

> but how to config it? I mean "how to connect it to a wireless router"
> 
> In Windows XP I have configed it, it's easy.
gratulations again.
> 
> Thanks!
> 

OK, how to ask smart questions.
Since there are so many ways how you can set up debian there are also many
answers to your question. Since nobody really has a magic crystal bowl you
have to be a bit more detailed how you 
1.) explain what you did
2.) expected
3.) which expectations failed to materialize and any error you got.


If you have a default installation with a gnome desktop:
- go to the upper right corner.
- klick
- enable wireless
- pick your essid
- enter you password

As you said: it's easy my friend.


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Re: how to config wireless card

[KS]

Serena Cantor wrote:
 I've just got a USB card. It use rt2500 chip, said to be supported by etch
 
 how to config it? which package should I install?
 

The rt2500 package and drivers from rt2500-source. I have a rt2500 based
card running on testing but it is a PCI card. More details at:
http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/

HTH,
/KS


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Re: how to config wireless card

[Chris Lale]

KS wrote:
 Serena Cantor wrote:
 I've just got a USB card. It use rt2500 chip, said to be supported by etch

 how to config it? which package should I install?

 
 The rt2500 package and drivers from rt2500-source. I have a rt2500 based
 card running on testing but it is a PCI card. More details at:
 http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/

Also, from the NewbieDOC wiki [1]:

# aptitude install rt2500-source module-assistant
# m-a prepare
# m-a a-i rt2500-source

This was tested with a PCMCIA card. Not sure about USB, but, if iwconfig detects
a network interface, I cannot see a problem.

[1]
http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_wireless_network_card_using_drivers_from_Debian_packages

Please report back whether it works or not.

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