On Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 04:05:03PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote:
Hi Jonathan,
Hi Daniel. Good to hear from you. It's been a while.
In your platform[0], you state: I have a proven history of releasing
software on time, on schedule. Project Xouvert, a stripped down
version of the X11 source code,
On Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 12:02:10AM -0800, Jonathan Walther wrote:
On Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 04:05:03PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote:
Contrast this with the Xouvert 0.1 announcement[2]:
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 05:24:40 -0800
This release was either two months and six days, or
At Thu, 10 Mar 2005 03:43:48 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
My sincere apologies for the delay.
Note up front: I have not yet looked at your platform.
[...]
Could you please state in public that you did not use the delay in
any way to gain an advantage by looking over the others' platforms
We will extract the X server source from the XFree86 CVS
repository, and make it compile stand-alone. Then we will
package it together with the latest video drivers and bugfixes
to coexist with current distributions of XFree86. We hope to
incorporate the DRI and Utah-glx work by release
Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The idea to ignore trolls is hardly new, or unusual. Nor is it a
policy, in the sense that anyone is ordered to ignore them under
pain of expulsion. [...]
Not in that sense, but that sense doesn't follow directly from
the word policy. I'd expect
also sprach Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au [2005.03.11.0158 +0100]:
I can't see any way of having polite reminders work without some
sort of statement from the DPL or the listmasters, probably with
the prospect of some sort of enforcement, though, personally.
And I can't see how
martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
also sprach Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au [2005.03.11.0158 +0100]:
There's a trivial way: moderate the lists. I think there are less
fascist ways that'll be both effective and more efficient. But
there's no point kidding ourselves that it'll be
Finally, after many complications and several hundreds of bytes of
data exchanged between the involved (wow!), it is my pleasure to
announce the
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2005 DEBIAN PROJECT LEADER ELECTION IRC DEBATE
Scripsit Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No, I'm afraid I still do not believe that the first release occurred
on time, or that the second release ever occurred, and my faith in your
release abilities is very low for someone who listed it as its absolute
top priority.
I totally think we
martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.03.11.1222 +0100]:
Which machines are you talking about?
All those marked as restricted on db.debian.org.
And of course, ftp-master.debian.org and security.debian.org :)
So that was just a bogus comment to keep up
also sprach Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.03.11.1353 +0100]:
And the point is what exactly?
That people who would like to know more about Debian internals have
no easy way of finding out, and if they approach those that know at
the wrong time, or not in the way those would expect, they
The current Technical Committee is inactive; in the past two years they
have only made two rulings:
* 2004-06-24 Bug #254598: amd64 is a fine name for that architecture.
* 2004-06-05 Bug #164591, Bug #164889: md5sum /dev/null should
produce the bare md5sum value.
The md5sum ruling was a
Given the DPL's role involves a fair amount of travel, speaking, giving
interviews to the press, etc, do you think that you will have sufficient
time to do a good job as DPL given your other commitments to Debian?
How do you see your other responsibilities within Debian suffering as a
result of
On Thursday 10 March 2005 6:53 pm, Anthony Towns wrote:
Personally, I don't see any reason why having filtering on the client is
better than having it on the server -- even if just to stop people
from getting confused at the debian-devel they read being different to
the debian-devel others
Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
Hi,
Am Freitag, den 11.03.2005, 13:14 +0100 schrieb Frank Küster:
However, we should be careful not to make the problem worse instead of
better: We don't gain much if anybody who wants to be informed then
would have to follow -devel *and*
Graydon Hoare. I hear that he has apologized for that whole thing.
On Friday 11 March 2005 3:54 am, Brian Kimball wrote:
We will extract the X server source from the XFree86 CVS
repository, and make it compile stand-alone. Then we will
package it together with the latest video drivers
martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.03.11.1353 +0100]:
And the point is what exactly?
That people who would like to know more about Debian internals have
no easy way of finding out, and if they approach those that know at
the wrong time, or not in the
Scott James Remnant wrote:
The current Technical Committee is inactive; in the past two years they
have only made two rulings:
* 2004-06-24 Bug #254598: amd64 is a fine name for that architecture.
* 2004-06-05 Bug #164591, Bug #164889: md5sum /dev/null should
produce the bare md5sum value.
Do
Matthew Wilcox wrote:
Given the DPL's role involves a fair amount of travel, speaking, giving
interviews to the press, etc, do you think that you will have sufficient
time to do a good job as DPL given your other commitments to Debian?
I expect so -- in the worst case, all of my other commitments
martin f krafft wrote:
Anyway, how are you going to ensure that we don't scream at each
other over VoIP lines? Traffic control? :)
High frequency filtering? :)
Cheers,
aj
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Ean Schuessler wrote:
No, the central motivation for the project is to make a good, free
operating system. The Deb stands for Debra, not Debating.
So, is that free as in beer? If freedom of expression isn't a priority then
what exactly is Software Libre?
Free software's about writing good code,
MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The idea to ignore trolls is hardly new, or unusual. Nor is it a
policy, in the sense that anyone is ordered to ignore them under
pain of expulsion. [...]
Not in that sense, but that sense doesn't follow
Hello DPL candidate,
My question is:
How do you see the relation between Debian and Ubuntu in the future?
Thanks in advance for your answers,
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martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au [2005.03.11.0158 +0100]:
I can't see any way of having polite reminders work without some
sort of statement from the DPL or the listmasters, probably with
the prospect of some sort of enforcement, though, personally.
And I
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 04:44:19AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
martin f krafft wrote:
Anyway, how are you going to ensure that we don't scream at each
other over VoIP lines? Traffic control? :)
High frequency filtering? :)
No, come on, this would be discriminatory for women, youth and
Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...]
Not in that sense, but that sense doesn't follow directly from
the word policy. I'd expect someone consistently ignoring it
to be corrected, but ICBW.
It's not policy regardless. It's a recommendation
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes:
Enforcement of the BTS policy gets a few more flames because it only
happens when people are already being argumentative, and because it's
not a policy people are very well aware of in advance. OTOH, an
argument doesn't stop the policy being
MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you think this is *wrong*, then why? Because you have a right to
be responded to no matter what you say, even when you are hostile to
the purposes the list was created for?
I'm not hostile to balancing debian's composition. I'm hostile
to
Bill Allombert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How do you see the relation between Debian and Ubuntu in the future?
Note that the LWN article about the DPL election has some quotes from
the candidates about Ubuntu and Debian at:
URL: http://lwn.net/Articles/127031/
Your question is probably (at
Andreas Schuldei dijo [Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 09:41:59PM +0100]:
What Muppet character do you see yourself as, and why?
Swedish Chef, since i live in Sweden and love cooking!
Careful - You are telling voters that if you get elected, Debian will
be b0rken!
Greetings,
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Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=224742
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/12/msg01966.html
I have a question about this one. Enrico was abusing the system (from
the bug log, at least, I concur with that judgment). But is it a
coincidence that he
Romain Francoise wrote:
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes:
The debian-release list enforcement policy of politely asking people to
stay on topic has worked quite well and hasn't needed any augmentation.
Isn't it because the RMs have been asking people to treat -release as a
role
* Anthony Towns [Sat, 12 Mar 2005 10:52:49 +1000]:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/12/msg01966.html
Hrm. I thought for sure I'd made that clear in that thread, but now I
can't seem to find any evidence of it.
I'm happy to do the same thing for any other maintainer who is being
Adeodato Sim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
* Anthony Towns [Sat, 12 Mar 2005 10:52:49 +1000]:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/12/msg01966.html
Hrm. I thought for sure I'd made that clear in that thread, but now I
can't seem to find any evidence of it.
I'm happy to do the same
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Adeodato Sim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
* Anthony Towns [Sat, 12 Mar 2005 10:52:49 +1000]:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/12/msg01966.html
Hrm. I thought for sure I'd made that clear in that thread, but now I
can't seem to find any evidence of it.
I'm happy
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 04:01:12PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
Of course they'll look over whatever bug you claim is being abused. I
don't understand why you'd even imagine it'd be otherwise.
Well, there is a DPL candidate who has, with another role hat on his
head, repeatedly claimed that
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