Re: Question for all candidates (3 word summary)

2006-03-05 Thread Ted Walther
On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 09:07:18AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: * MJ Ray ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060304 01:32]: Jeroen van Wolffelaar On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 02:49:37PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: If you had to summarize your platform with 3 keywords, what would they be ? Communication,

Re: Reflections about the questions for the candidates

2006-03-05 Thread Lars Wirzenius
su, 2006-03-05 kello 03:11 +0100, Enrico Zini kirjoitti: It would have been pointless to come out with such trivial reports. I disagree. They let the project know that things are going on (or not going on), and the DPL and Team are not just dormant, which was the impression I, at least, had for

Re: Reflections about the questions for the candidates

2006-03-05 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
Hello Enrico, But there's more than that. In the last year as part of the DPL Team, people have been criticising the last year for the lack of reports. But I don't remember a single one sending in a mail like Dear DPL[-Team], what happened last week?. It would have been a pleasure to

Re: Reflections about the questions for the candidates

2006-03-05 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 09:49:29AM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: Hello Enrico, But there's more than that. In the last year as part of the DPL Team, people have been criticising the last year for the lack of reports. But I don't remember a single one sending in a mail like Dear

Re: Reflections about the questions for the candidates

2006-03-05 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 03:11:58AM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: But there's more than that. In the last year as part of the DPL Team, people have been criticising the last year for the lack of reports. But I don't remember a single one sending in a mail like Dear DPL[-Team], what happened

Re: Code of conduct, question to all candidates

2006-03-05 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 05:39:08PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 10:08:15PM +0100, Frank K?ster wrote: And, do you think this code of conduct should be enforced? How? We already have a code of conduct for the lists that's not enforced; it says you can't swear, and

Second call for votes for the GFDL position statement

2006-03-05 Thread Debian Project Secretary
Hi, We are now in the second and final week of this vote. At the time of writing, 174 people have voted, out of a potential 972. manoj Voting period starts 00:00:01 UTC on Sunday, 26th February, 2006 Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC on Saturday, 11th

Re: Reflections about the questions for the candidates

2006-03-05 Thread Enrico Zini
Hi, On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 02:27:36AM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote: However, what you say in your message (if people had asked for status reports they would've received them) is blatantly wrong. We did ask, and (usually) no good response was given. this turns out to be interesting: we

Re: Democracy in Debian

2006-03-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 8 Feb 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane verbalised: On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 08:47:10AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On 8 Feb 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane said: On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 06:57:03PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On 7 Feb 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane spake thusly: Should the situation

Re: GFDL position statement ballot invalid

2006-03-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 28 Feb 2006, Oliver Elphick uttered the following: On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 18:36 +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote: Hi, That is meant as a statement of fact, not a personal attack. If something is listed as a constitutional change it will certainly bias against it those who dislike such

Re: GFDL position statement ballot invalid

2006-03-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 28 Feb 2006, Oliver Elphick outgrape: On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 17:21 -0600, Debian Project Secretary wrote: The following ballot is for voting on a General Resolution to address the Debian project's position on the GNU Free Documentation License. The vote is being conducted in accordance

Re: Reflections about the questions for the candidates

2006-03-05 Thread Lars Wirzenius
su, 2006-03-05 kello 14:20 +0100, Enrico Zini kirjoitti: On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 10:44:17AM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: And yes, a couple of times I did ask, although on IRC and not via e-mail. Having to drag out information gets tiresome so I only did it a couple of times. Did you

Re: Reflections about the questions for the candidates

2006-03-05 Thread Lars Wirzenius
su, 2006-03-05 kello 15:49 +0200, Lars Wirzenius kirjoitti: su, 2006-03-05 kello 14:20 +0100, Enrico Zini kirjoitti: On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 10:44:17AM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: And yes, a couple of times I did ask, although on IRC and not via e-mail. Having to drag out information

Re: Questions to candidate Anthony Towns

2006-03-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 05 mars 2006 à 17:19 +1000, Anthony Towns a écrit : 2. Everyone has his own character. However, a representative has to be cautious to avoid compromising the project as a whole. Were you elected, would you make efforts to stop being contemptuous in

Re: Democracy in Debian

2006-03-05 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 07:26:34AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Which only goes to show that you really do not understand how Debian works. Are you not aware that vote have already been audited before? That anyone with root on master already has access to all ballots? That the DPL's can

Re: Code of conduct, question to all candidates

2006-03-05 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 11:37:48AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Secondly, I believe the personality problems thing is about a quote of mine on -private[1] Actually it wasn't really a quote at all; if anyone cared I was going to point at Ted/Jonathan's platform with remarks like Most of us are

Re: DPL vote summaries 2006 (was: Re: Appeal to candidate questioners)

2006-03-05 Thread David Schmitt
Am Sonntag, 5. März 2006 01:24 wrote David Schmitt: I have put a first version online at http://debian.edv-bus.at/vote-2006/input.xml There is now a pre-generated plain HTML version as http://debian.edv-bus.at/vote-2006/questions.html online. As well as a little Makefile. Kudos to

Re: What if you are not elected as DPL?

2006-03-05 Thread Luk Claes
Steve McIntyre wrote: On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 10:08:22AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: Hi DPL candidates Would you also try to reach the goals mentioned in your platform if you wouldn't be elected DPL? Please be specific if you think one of your goals can't be reached or helped with without being a

Re: Question to all candidates about the NM process

2006-03-05 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-04 13:06:37]: Though there are often threads about problems with it on our mailing lists, the NM process hasn't changed much in the last three or four years. What do you think about the most common problems (takes too long, is asking for too

Platform in three keywords (was: Question for all candidates)

2006-03-05 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Mike Hommey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-02 14:49:37]: If you had to summarize your platform with 3 keywords, what would they be ? - purpose-driven - predictable - warm and welcoming signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Questions for candidate Jeroen van Wolffelaar

2006-03-05 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 10:06:34PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: 1. As you are promoting the team leadership that has been in place since Branden's election, do you have explanations for the total absence of leadership during this time? What could you tell to convince us it's still

Re: Reflections about the questions for the candidates

2006-03-05 Thread Frank Küster
Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, what you say in your message (if people had asked for status reports they would've received them) is blatantly wrong. We did ask, and (usually) no good response was given. I also asked the DPL a question about backups of the development

Re: Code of conduct, question to all candidates

2006-03-05 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 01:17:02AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 11:37:48AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Secondly, I believe the personality problems thing is about a quote of mine on -private[1] Actually it wasn't really a quote at all; if anyone cared I was going

Re: DPL reports [was: Re: Reflections about the questions for the candidates]

2006-03-05 Thread Enrico Zini
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 11:05:04AM -0500, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: Hi Kevin. I'm not sure that I understand the reasons why the efforts couldn't be reported, at least to debian-private. Are they one or more of the following, and if so, which? Among your categories, the ones that most apply

Re: Reflections about the questions for the candidates

2006-03-05 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-05 18:48]: I also asked the DPL a question about backups of the development machines (after the CVS corruption last year) and never got any answer. FWIW, there is a dedicated backup server now. I don't know any details though (nor why it was never

Re: Question for all candidates: what mistake will you _not_ make?

2006-03-05 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-04 14:13:42]: So, my question: please name any behaviour or act you've observed with previous DPLs (naming the name of the respective DPL is not required) that you think was a mistake, and which you will try not to make during your term? I will

Re: Question to all candidates about stable point releases

2006-03-05 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-04 13:02:20]: Though Martin 'Joey' Schulze as stable release manager presents lists of packages that are accepted into the next stable point release on a regular basis, they normally are not released roughly two months after the last update

Re: Reflections about the questions for the candidates

2006-03-05 Thread Joey Hess
Enrico Zini wrote: I just went back to the mail archive of that time and stopped reading after a while because of anger rising: lots of good efforts have been done, and the instant reaction to those was in various case absolutely disappointing. It's all stuff you can't put in a report: you

Re: Questions about Ubuntu

2006-03-05 Thread David N. Welton
Andreas Schuldei wrote: Debian needs to learn to re-integrate the improvements from derived distributions and would get a long way just doing that. On top of that there should not be a problem becoming more innovative ourselfs - there are enough cool problems to solve. Listening to our users

Re: Questions to candidate Anthony Towns

2006-03-05 Thread Joey Hess
(Please treat this question as if it were asked on debian-devel not here.) Anthony Towns wrote: I do think it would be interesting for the project to embrace the d-i beta releases and the testing-security support and turn those into regular mini-releases, without many of the standards we

Re: Reflections about the questions for the candidates

2006-03-05 Thread Frank Küster
Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-05 18:48]: I also asked the DPL a question about backups of the development machines (after the CVS corruption last year) and never got any answer. FWIW, there is a dedicated backup server now. I don't know

Re: Reflections about the questions for the candidates

2006-03-05 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-05 21:05]: FWIW, there is a dedicated backup server now. I don't know any details though (nor why it was never announced). So you also don't know what is backed up, and how often? No, I only know that there's a dedicated backup server and that it's

Questions for all canidates

2006-03-05 Thread Benjamin Seidenberg
If you were not running for DPL, which of the other candiates would you most likely vote for (or since you are running, rank as '2' on your ballot)? Why? Which of the other canidate's platform statements do you agree with, and which do you not? If you are elected as DPL, do you think that you

Re: Questions about Ubuntu

2006-03-05 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* David N. Welton [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-05 20:41:55]: The reason Debian can't compete with Ubuntu for the Desktop/new to Linux users is that Ubuntu makes choices where Debian won't or can't. They give you a default system that works well because they picked certain things instead of

Questions for all candidates: the DPL as a creator of public opinion

2006-03-05 Thread Fabian Fagerholm
Hi, The DPL is described as a representative of Debian to the general public, and as a vision-definer inside the Debian Project. Also, the DPL is given the responsibility of building good relationships with other organizations and companies. [0] Currently, the FOSS world is facing major

Re: Questions for candidate Andreas Schuldei

2006-03-05 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-05 06:32:13]: 1. After the utter failure of the DPL team conducted by Branden Robinson to provide leadership, what makes you think the team you are proposing would do better? I would try to avoid some flaws in last year's

Re: question for all candidates

2006-03-05 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-02-27 12:18:55]: Two years ago, Branden Robinson talked about the issue of some tasks in the project that are neither delegated by the Project leader nor covered by the Constitution directly. [1] He referenced his platform from 2004 last year

Re: Reflections about the questions for the candidates

2006-03-05 Thread Martin Schulze
Frank Küster wrote: * Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-05 18:48]: I also asked the DPL a question about backups of the development machines (after the CVS corruption last year) and never got any answer. FWIW, there is a dedicated backup server now. I don't know any details

To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven - questions to DPL candidates

2006-03-05 Thread Sune Vuorela
Hi! Just a small question: Do all of you have many spare hours in your current schedules? Or what part of your debian work would get lower priorities if you get elected? Or are you planning to toss out your TV, dump your girlfriend or hire a garden keeper ? If other of your debian work get a

Re: Reflections about the questions for the candidates

2006-03-05 Thread Frank Küster
Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The missing announcement is totally my fault, so please don't blame any DPL for this. I don't think this is the point. If the DPL had cared about the problem and about transparency, he'd asked you how the service is running and why it hasn't been

Re: Question for all candidates: what mistake will you _not_ make?

2006-03-05 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 02:13:42PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Hi, During DPL campaigning, it seems in for candidates to propose all sorts of Great Things they will try to do once elected. While this is obviously all interesting information, it leaves out something that, I think, is also fairly

Re: What if you are not elected as DPL?

2006-03-05 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 04:37:45PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: Steve McIntyre wrote: Firstly, my stated goals from my platform: 1 Communications within the project 2 Mailing lists and IRC 3 Training and NM 4 Openness within the project 5 Technical standards 6 Working effectively;

Re: Questions for all canidates

2006-03-05 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 03:27:03PM -0500, Benjamin Seidenberg wrote: If you were not running for DPL, which of the other candiates would you most likely vote for (or since you are running, rank as '2' on your ballot)? Why? Ouch, that's a nasty question! :-) My own favourites of the other

Re: To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven - questions to DPL candidates

2006-03-05 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 11:30:26PM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: Hi! Hi Sune! Just a small question: Do all of you have many spare hours in your current schedules? Or what part of your debian work would get lower priorities if you get elected? Or are you planning to toss out your TV, dump your

Re: To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven - questions to DPL candidates

2006-03-05 Thread Ted Walther
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 11:30:26PM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: Do all of you have many spare hours in your current schedules? Or what part of your debian work would get lower priorities if you get elected? Or are you planning to toss out your TV, dump your girlfriend or hire a garden keeper ?

Re: To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven - questions to DPL candidates

2006-03-05 Thread Ted Walther
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 11:30:26PM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: Do all of you have many spare hours in your current schedules? Or what part of your debian work would get lower priorities if you get elected? Or are you planning to toss out your TV, dump your girlfriend or hire a garden keeper ?

Questions For Ted (Jonathan) Walther

2006-03-05 Thread David Nusinow
Hi Ted, In your platform you write the following: After ten years, I am still using Debian as my developement, server, and multimedia desktop platform. It is the best Linux developers platform in the world. It is also an excellent server platform. Alas, I can't say that about the

Re: Democracy in Debian

2006-03-05 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 06 Mar 2006, Anthony Towns wrote: On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 07:26:34AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Which only goes to show that you really do not understand how Debian works. Are you not aware that vote have already been audited before? That anyone with root on master already