Re: [Amendement] override of resolutions 005, 006, 007, 008

2006-10-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 08:13:36PM +, Bill Allombert wrote: > Dear Debian voters, > > I humbly submit to your elevated mass the following amendment > to the latest General Resolution proposed by Sven Luther. > > = > The Debian project resolves that:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Final consensual proposal for the problematic firmware issue in the linux kernel sources.

2006-10-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 01:34:11PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sun, 15 Oct 2006, Sven Luther wrote: > > Well, we all know it is sourceless GPLed firmware, and we chose just > > to say the contrary, because it is convenient to us. > > If we know[1] a work is a sourceless GPLed work, then we ca

Re: Kernel Firmware issue: are GPLed sourceless firmwares legal to distribute ?

2006-10-17 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Anthony Towns wrote: > On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 03:49:25PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: >> The answer to the question in the subject is simple: NO. > > Thankyou for your opinion. I note you seemed to neglect to mention that > you're not a lawyer. Yes, I'm not a lawyer. Do not rely on anything

Re: Kernel Firmware issue: are GPLed sourceless firmwares legal to distribute ?

2006-10-17 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 03:35:26PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 03:49:25PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > > The answer to the question in the subject is simple: NO. > > > > Thankyou for your opinion. I note you seemed to ne

Re: Kernel Firmware issue: are GPLed sourceless firmwares legal to distribute ?

2006-10-17 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 03:49:25PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > The answer to the question in the subject is simple: NO. > > Thankyou for your opinion. I note you seemed to neglect to mention > that you're not a lawyer. That should be abundantly a

Re: Kernel Firmware issue: are GPLed sourceless firmwares legal to distribute ?

2006-10-17 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 03:49:25PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > The answer to the question in the subject is simple: NO. Thankyou for your opinion. I note you seemed to neglect to mention that you're not a lawyer. Cheers, aj signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Kernel Firmware issue: are GPLed sourceless firmwares legal to distribute ?

2006-10-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 03:49:25PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > The answer to the question in the subject is simple: NO. > > This is a matter of copyright law. If we do not have permission to > distribute, it is illegal to distribute. GPL grants permission to > distribute *only* if we dist

Re: Kernel Firmware issue: are GPLed sourceless firmwares legal to distribute ?

2006-10-17 Thread Nathanael Nerode
The answer to the question in the subject is simple: NO. This is a matter of copyright law. If we do not have permission to distribute, it is illegal to distribute. GPL grants permission to distribute *only* if we distribute source. So, GPLed sourceless == NO PERMISSON. I will list the usua

Re: [AMENDMENT] Re: seconds searched for override of resolution 007 needed.

2006-10-17 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Kurt Roeckx a écrit : I want to amendment the following proposal: === START OF PROPOSAL === Definition: For the purpose of this resolution, the "firmware" mentioned below designates binary data included in some of the linux kernel drivers, usually as hex-encoded variables and whose purpose is t