Re: First call for vote on immediate vote under section 4.2.2

2006-10-29 Thread martin f krafft
Given that there's no easy way to get at the arguments for an against this vote, other than wading through hundreds of -vote mails, I cannot cast a vote. I also don't understand why we vote whether to put something on hold or not until we vote about it. Or at least this is what the ballot

Re: First call for vote on immediate vote under section 4.2.2

2006-10-29 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 11:13:06AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 2808c3bb-6d17-49b6-98c8-c6a0a24bc686 [ 0 ] Choice 1: The DPL's withdrawal of the delegation remains on hold pending a vote [ 0 ] Choice 2: The

Re: First call for vote on immediate vote under section 4.2.2

2006-10-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 11:13:06AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: Finally, I am getting annoyed by all these GRs and the waste of time that comes with them. Maybe I should thus propose a vote to resolve that DDs must now stop wasting time and get back to work. Hey, you should have seconded my

Re: First call for vote on immediate vote under section 4.2.2

2006-10-29 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 11:13:06AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: I also don't understand why we vote whether to put something on hold or not until we vote about it. Or at least this is what the ballot suggests: It's a feature of the constitution: if a vote is held to reverse a DPL decision

Re: First call for vote on immediate vote under section 4.2.2

2006-10-29 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2006-10-29 Ola Lundqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried to determine what this vote is all about. I'm not subscribed to either debian-vote or debian-devel so all I can see is that is available from the web archives. I can not find anything about this, so personally I think it is

Re: First call for vote on immediate vote under section 4.2.2

2006-10-29 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hi Thanks for pointing me to information about this vote. I obviously missed some parts of the debian-vote list, as I thought that newest was listed first. On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 12:11:10PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: On 2006-10-29 Ola Lundqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried to

Re: First call for vote on immediate vote under section 4.2.2

2006-10-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.10.29.1211 +0100]: Finally, I am getting annoyed by all these GRs and the waste of time that comes with them. Maybe I should thus propose a vote to resolve that DDs must now stop wasting time and get back to work. Hey, you should have

Re: First call for vote on immediate vote under section 4.2.2

2006-10-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.10.29.1209 +0100]: I don't actually know whether 0/0 is as invalid as I want it to be, but we'll see. It should be. I voted 9/9 indicating my contempt for this vote, but it wasn't accepted. 0/0 was not accepted. Joey (Hess), was

Re: First call for vote on immediate vote under section 4.2.2

2006-10-29 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 11:13:06AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 2808c3bb-6d17-49b6-98c8-c6a0a24bc686 [ 0 ] Choice 1: The DPL's withdrawal of the delegation remains on hold pending a vote [ 0 ] Choice 2: The

Re: First call for vote on immediate vote under section 4.2.2

2006-10-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Kurt Roeckx [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.10.29.1613 +0100]: But as far as I know, it's just the same as not voting. And I'm not sure what you think an invalid vote would have as effect. In voting systems with a quorum, an invalid vote increases the number of cast votes and thus makes

Re: First call for vote on immediate vote under section 4.2.2

2006-10-29 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 04:57:46PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Kurt Roeckx [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.10.29.1613 +0100]: But as far as I know, it's just the same as not voting. And I'm not sure what you think an invalid vote would have as effect. In voting systems with a

Re: First call for vote on immediate vote under section 4.2.2

2006-10-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Kurt Roeckx [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.10.29.1736 +0100]: In voting systems with a quorum, an invalid vote increases the number of cast votes and thus makes it less likely for an option to reach the quorum (which is expressed as a percentage). Please correct me if I am wrong.

Re: First call for vote on immediate vote under section 4.2.2

2006-10-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:57:46 +0100, martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: also sprach Kurt Roeckx [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.10.29.1613 +0100]: But as far as I know, it's just the same as not voting. And I'm not sure what you think an invalid vote would have as effect. In voting systems

Re: First call for vote on immediate vote under section 4.2.2

2006-10-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:41:26 +0100, martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: So is there a difference between not voting and voting all options equal? Yes, your name is recorded as someone who voted. Has no effect on quorum or the outcome, though. manoj -- QOTD: I haven't