Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 11:33:19AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 11:11:55PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 06:00:12PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 06:35:07PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Uh, what's this if not peer

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-14 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 07:12:31PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 11:33:19AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 11:11:55PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Right, you could change dak. You can't/won't/? fix the process by which the current restrictions

Re: [GR] DD should be allowed to perform binary-only uploads

2007-02-14 Thread Florian Weimer
* Hamish Moffatt: Do you think it's likely that it can boot the kernel and run the build environment without crashing, but produce broken binaries? We've got a few cases where emulated builds on amd64, sparc64 and s390x failed to produce working binaries for i386, sparc and s390. Usually,

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-14 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 07:12:31PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 11:33:19AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 11:11:55PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 06:00:12PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 06:35:07PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 09:15:17PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 07:12:31PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Then you don't see any conflict of interest between the arm buildd admin and the ftp-master? No, I don't. I don't see any conflict of interest in being a package

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-14 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 11:16:56PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 09:15:17PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 07:12:31PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Then you don't see any conflict of interest between the arm buildd admin and the ftp-master? No,

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-14 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, Maintaining a buildd isn't trivial, there's: - making sure they don't get rooted, and their builds compromised - keeping the chroot up to date - keeping in sync with w-b / sbuild changes - keeping in sync with the infrastructure upstream (building from incoming,

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Re: [GR] DD should be allowed to perform binary-only uploads

2007-02-14 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 11:31:17AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: * Hamish Moffatt: Do you think it's likely that it can boot the kernel and run the build environment without crashing, but produce broken binaries? We've got a few cases where emulated builds on amd64, sparc64 and s390x

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 06:42:19PM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: So where can I send my application so that I can help out with this stuff? I think I know how to do all of the listed things. Judging from broad knowledge, you might send them to /dev/null for maximum effect. Greetings

Re: [GR] DD should be allowed to perform binary-only uploads

2007-02-14 Thread p2
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 06:37:25PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 11:31:17AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: * Hamish Moffatt: Do you think it's likely that it can boot the kernel and run the build environment without crashing, but produce broken binaries? We've

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-14 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Marc, On Wednesday 14 February 2007 20:21, Marc Haber wrote: Judging from broad knowledge, you might send them to /dev/null for maximum effect. Do you really think constant senseless contentless ranting has _any_ (good) effect? regards, Holger pgpgXAsXBPwUQ.pgp Description: PGP

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 10:12:19PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: On Wednesday 14 February 2007 20:21, Marc Haber wrote: Judging from broad knowledge, you might send them to /dev/null for maximum effect. Do you really think constant senseless contentless ranting has _any_ (good) effect? At

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-14 Thread Frank Küster
Holger Levsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marc, On Wednesday 14 February 2007 20:21, Marc Haber wrote: Judging from broad knowledge, you might send them to /dev/null for maximum effect. Do you really think constant senseless contentless ranting has _any_ (good) effect? It reminds us all

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 10:34:38PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: Holger Levsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 14 February 2007 20:21, Marc Haber wrote: Judging from broad knowledge, you might send them to /dev/null for maximum effect. Do you really think constant senseless

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-14 Thread Frank Küster
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 10:34:38PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: Holger Levsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 14 February 2007 20:21, Marc Haber wrote: Judging from broad knowledge, you might send them to /dev/null for maximum effect. Do you

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-14 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Thu Feb 15, 2007 at 13:13:36 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: -vote dropped On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 03:06:01PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: Maintaining a buildd isn't trivial, there's: - making sure they don't get rooted, and their builds compromised - keeping the