Re: Call for seconds - DAM decisions

2008-11-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 09:34:47AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 12:18:11AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : I'm fine with voting with only the current option on the ballot, but that will probably translate in people abstaining because they don't agree, neither with

Re: Call for seconds - DAM decisions

2008-11-03 Thread Damyan Ivanov
-=| Lucas Nussbaum, Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 03:22:05PM +0100 |=- I hereby propose those two alternate options and am asking for seconds. | Option: Ask the DAM to postpone the changes | | The Debian Project, by way of a general resolution of its developers, asks | the Debian Account Managers

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Re: Call for seconds: DFSG violations in Lenny

2008-11-03 Thread Rémi Vanicat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Option 1 (reaffirm the Social Contract) ~~~ 1. We affirm that our Priorities are our users and the free software community (Social Contract #4); 2. We

Re: Call for seconds: DFSG violations in Lenny

2008-11-03 Thread Peter Samuelson
Option 1 (reaffirm the Social Contract) ~~~ 1. We affirm that our Priorities are our users and the free software community (Social Contract #4); 2. We acknowledge that we promised to deliver a 100% free operating system (Social

Re: Call for seconds - DC concept (was: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept)

2008-11-03 Thread Andreas Barth
* Peter Palfrader ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [081029 20:58]: On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote: I really dislike the negative tone of the original proposed resolution, so I am thinking of proposing this as an alternative option. I hereby propose this alternate option/amendment and am

Re: Another one?

2008-11-03 Thread Andreas Barth
* Peter Palfrader ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [081031 09:37]: I wonder if we should haven an option on the ballot that asks the DAM to basically go forward with their idea, explicitly authorizing them to merge the DM setup in to it? I think it would be helpful to have that as an explicit option. I

Re: Draft ballot for Proceedural Vote: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.

2008-11-03 Thread Andreas Barth
* Peter Palfrader ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [081101 09:26]: Also note that 2K seconds puts any decision by a delegate on hold. I'm sorry to say but that happens only if the resolution says so (If such a resolution is sponsored by at least 2K Developers, or if it is proposed by the Technical

Re: Call for seconds - DAM decisions

2008-11-03 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Sun Nov 02 15:22, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: | Option: Ask the DAM to postpone the changes | | The Debian Project, by way of a general resolution of its developers, asks | the Debian Account Managers to postpone the implementation of the changes | described on the debian-devel-announce mailing

Re: Call for seconds: DFSG violations in Lenny

2008-11-03 Thread Andreas Barth
* Robert Millan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [081027 16:15]: Option 1 (reaffirm the Social Contract) ~~~ 1. We affirm that our Priorities are our users and the free software community (Social Contract #4); 2. Given that we have known for two previous

Re: Call for seconds - DC concept (was: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept)

2008-11-03 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 09:28:17AM +0100, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: Hi Peter, On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 09:01:51PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote: I really dislike the negative tone of the original proposed resolution, so I am thinking of

Re: Draft ballot for Proceedural Vote: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.

2008-11-03 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 07:28:43PM +, Neil McGovern wrote: =DRAFT=DRAFT=DRAFT=DRAFT=DRAFT=DRAFT=DRAFT=DRAFT=DRAFT=DRAFT=DRAFT=DRAFT= Voting period starts 00:00:01 UTC on Sunday,02nd Nov 2008 Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC on Saturday, 15th Nov 2008 So when

Re: Call for seconds: DFSG violations in Lenny

2008-11-03 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! Andreas Barth schrieb: In case any of the proposals get enough seconds, I would propose then: | Debian's priorities are our users and free software. We don't trade them | against each other. However during getting an release out of the door, | decisions need to be done how to get a rock

Re: Call for seconds - DC concept (was: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept)

2008-11-03 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 05:09:14PM +, Neil McGovern wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 09:28:17AM +0100, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: Hi Peter, On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 09:01:51PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote: I really dislike the negative

Re: Draft ballot for Proceedural Vote: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.

2008-11-03 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 06:35:14PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 07:28:43PM +, Neil McGovern wrote: =DRAFT=DRAFT=DRAFT=DRAFT=DRAFT=DRAFT=DRAFT=DRAFT=DRAFT=DRAFT=DRAFT=DRAFT= Voting period starts 00:00:01 UTC on Sunday,02nd Nov 2008 Votes must

Re: Call for seconds: DFSG violations in Lenny

2008-11-03 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Barth schrieb: In case any of the proposals get enough seconds, I would propose then: | Debian's priorities are our users and free software. We don't trade them | against each other. However during getting an release out of the door, |

Re: Call for seconds - DAM decisions

2008-11-03 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 10:04:05AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit : On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 09:34:47AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: I do not think that the only interpretation of a rejected GR is the contrary of its option(s). For instance, people can vote Further Disucssion because

Re: Call for seconds - DAM decisions

2008-11-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 03:22:05PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: I hereby propose those two alternate options and am asking for seconds. | Option: Ask the DAM to postpone the changes | | The Debian Project, by way of a general resolution of its developers, asks | the Debian Account Managers