Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2009-01-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jan 01, 2009 at 01:49:20PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > On Wed, 2008-12-31 at 12:01 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > While I understand the desire to add additional checks and balances in > > response to figures exercising power in ways we don't approve of, I think > > the fundamenta

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2009-01-02 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 10:30:05PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > > I don't think trivial cases are going to be much of a problem. In any > > case, I was thinking of a voting procedure for this body where the few > > voters would only be allowed to vote "yes" or "no", plus perhaps a > > rationale; w

Re: Discussion: Possible GR: Enhance requirements for General Resolutions

2009-01-02 Thread MJ Ray
Don Armstrong wrote: > On Fri, 02 Jan 2009, MJ Ray wrote: > > Sorry - I'm with Wouter Verhelst on this. Having options on the > > ballot that only a small minority of DDs support can help resolve > > conflicts: it lays them to rest, demonstrating they fail in the > > wider DD population, > > If an

Re: Discussion: Possible GR: Enhance requirements for General Resolutions

2009-01-02 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 31/12/08 at 12:35 -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Don Armstrong dijo [Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 04:18:02PM -0800]: > > (...) You should not be proposing or seconding an option that > > you don't plan on ranking first. > > (or high, as others have said in this thread) > > I am not sure about this... Som

Re: Discussion: Possible GR: Enhance requirements for General Resolutions

2009-01-02 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 02 Jan 2009, MJ Ray wrote: > Sorry - I'm with Wouter Verhelst on this. Having options on the > ballot that only a small minority of DDs support can help resolve > conflicts: it lays them to rest, demonstrating they fail in the > wider DD population, If an option can't get seconds enough to

Re: Discussion: Possible GR: Enhance requirements for General Resolutions

2009-01-02 Thread MJ Ray
Don Armstrong wrote: > On Tue, 30 Dec 2008, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > In general, I believe it is okay to second a ballot option that you > > do not plan to rank first if you feel it is an important matter that > > you want to see resolved. The statement "I second this proposal" > > only means "I

Re: Discussion: Possible GR: Enhance requirements for General Resolutions

2009-01-02 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Adeodato Simó [090101 23:36]: > > The people who do care about such an option winning have at least as > > much freedom to decide as they did before the option was proposed. > > They can decide whether they want to propose their own wording, or to > > second the wording as already proposed, or a