Re: Naming of non-uploading DDs (Was: GR: welcome non-packaging contributors as Debian project members)

2010-09-16 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:40:09PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: I'll let the patch linger for a couple of days -- actually, I'll be away for most part of tomorrow -- and then I'll apply it, posting a new complete draft here shortly thereafter. So I'm not considering this currently as an

Re: Naming of non-uploading DDs (Was: GR: welcome non-packaging contributors as Debian project members)

2010-09-16 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:48:02PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: I like that a lot more than the other wording, thus seconded. Please don't go and make this more confusing for me. As far as I can tell this wasn't meant to be amendment yet. He will probably accept this or something

Re: Naming of non-uploading DDs (Was: GR: welcome non-packaging contributors as Debian project members)

2010-09-16 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 02:03:01PM +0100, Matthew Johnson a écrit : OTOH, if we pass a GR that looks like we'll give them upload rights (because it just says they are DDs) and then they aren't given upload rights some people might feel upset that they voted for it. Just because it's not

Re: Naming of non-uploading DDs (Was: GR: welcome non-packaging contributors as Debian project members)

2010-09-16 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:51:51PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Stefano's DPL platform is actually quite clear on the subject: snip After seeing the results of this choice, it will always be possible to change the procedure, especially if a later DPL is elected with a platform that goes more

Re: Draft amendment: Welcome non-packaging contributors as Debian Developers with upload access

2010-09-16 Thread gregor herrmann
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:17:40 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Before pushing it forward as an amendment, I'd like to hear opinions about this: we have had problems with GRs proposing orthogonal options in the past. This amendment proposal discusses two things that are orthogonal (giving full

Re: Naming of non-uploading DDs (Was: GR: welcome non-packaging contributors as Debian project members)

2010-09-16 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 04:08:50PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:40:09PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: I'll let the patch linger for a couple of days -- actually, I'll be away for most part of tomorrow -- and then I'll apply it, posting a new complete draft here

Re: Naming of non-uploading DDs (Was: GR: welcome non-packaging contributors as Debian project members)

2010-09-16 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:45:52AM +0200, Simon Richter wrote: Hi, On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:48:02PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: I like that a lot more than the other wording, thus seconded. Please don't go and make this more confusing for me. As far as I can tell this wasn't meant

Re: GR: welcome non-packaging contributors as Debian project members

2010-09-16 Thread Florian Weimer
* Charles Plessy: I wonder why not simply inviting the Debian Account Managers to accept the long term contributors as DDs, even if they to not maintain packages? Would an amendement be welcome? Seems reasonable. (I'm among those who believe that voting rights are more fundamental than

Re: Draft amendment: Welcome non-packaging contributors as Debian Developers with upload access

2010-09-16 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 15/09/10 at 16:49 +0200, Christoph Berg wrote: Re: Lucas Nussbaum 2010-09-15 20100915141740.ga21...@xanadu.blop.info * Establish procedures to evaluate and accept contributors of non-packaging work as Debian Developers. Additionally, the Debian project acknowledges that the current

Re: What exactly is this GR supposed to do?

2010-09-16 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org wrote: My main problem with this text is that while it may fit to the current realities, it makes no sense from a formalistic point of view, as large parts of the text seem to imply there was no way for non-packagers yet and