> "Sam" == Sam Hartman writes:
Sam> Dear Secretary:
Sam> Based on discussion, I'd like to replace Proposal A with the
Sam> following amended text; I accept this amendment.
Sigh, and introduced a typo in the title:
Sam> Choice hartmans1: Init deversity is Important
Dear Secretary:
Based on discussion, I'd like to replace Proposal A with the following
amended text; I accept this amendment.
I continue to adjust the discussion period to end November 30.
Based on Holger's recommendation I adjusted the title of the choice.
If you prefer the title you have
> "gregor" == gregor herrmann writes:
gregor> Thanks for the clarification.
I am going to accept Holger's proposed changes and post this as an
accepted amendment to Proposal A.
>> I'd appreciate help in achieving these goals without undermining
>> the text in debref.
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 08:01:37 -0500, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > "gregor" == gregor herrmann writes:
> gregor> This contradicts the spirit, culture, and conventions around
> gregor> NMUs which are prevalent in Debian for at least ten years
> gregor> and are written down in DevRef
Sam Hartman writes:
> Choice hartmans3: Focus on systemd for Init System and Other Facilities
>
> Using its power under Constitution section 4.1 (5), the project issues
> the following statement describing our current position on Init
> systems, Init system diversity, and the use of systemd
Ansgar writes:
> It's mostly that it pushes systemd preference a bit more than my
> preference, mostly because the short text also reads "Focus on systemd
> for [...] other facilities", but I have no preference for systemd over
> other implementations for "other facilities".
> I see value in
Russ Allbery writes:
> Ansgar writes:
>> On Thu, 2019-11-14 at 15:08 -0500, Sam Hartman wrote:
>
>>> Unless the project or relevant parties have agreed otherwise, systemd
>>> facilities, where they exist and are stable and supported by the
>>> systemd maintainers, should be preferred over
> "David" == David Prévot writes:
David> Le 22/11/2019 à 03:01, Sam Hartman a écrit :
>> I think it is important to emphasize that these bugs can be NMUed
>> in this choice.
David> By doing that, this choice de facto overrides the currently
David> documented (and
Le 22/11/2019 à 03:01, Sam Hartman a écrit :
> I think it is important to emphasize that these bugs can be NMUed in
> this choice.
By doing that, this choice de facto overrides the currently documented
(and working) NMU workflow and practices.
I believe it opens a can of worms. It sets on stone
On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 01:44:09PM -0500, Brian Gupta wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 1:33 PM Kurt Roeckx wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 12:49:47PM -0500, Brian Gupta wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 9:02 AM Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 11:10:13PM -0500,
On 11/19/19 7:29 PM, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Russ Allbery writes ("Re: [draft] Draft text on Init Systems GR"):
>> Ian Jackson writes:
>>> Please do formally propose it and I will give my formal blessing to it.
>
>> If I understand the process correctly, that looks like this:
>
>> I propose that
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 08:01:37AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote:
> I'd appreciate help in achieving these goals without undermining the
> text in debref.
Choice 1: Init deversity is Important and NMUable
->
Choice 1: Init diversity is Important
and
However, adding an init script to such a package
> "gregor" == gregor herrmann writes:
gregor> On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 13:58:09 -0500, Sam Hartman wrote:
>> Choice hartmans1A: Init deversity is Important and NMUable
gregor> […]
>> Developers may perform non-maintainer uploads to fix these bugs.
gregor> This contradicts the
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 01:32:35AM +, Dmitry Bogatov wrote:
> [ I read version of hartman1, which is based on my draft with s/must/should/]
>
> I do not think your option actually adds value, and not aware of
> somebody, who prefers your option to either Ian's or mine. On other
> hand our
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