On December 12, 2019 2:57:55 PM UTC, Ian Jackson
wrote:
>Scott Kitterman writes ("Re: Some thoughts about Diversity and the
>CoC"):
>> I think you reinforce my original point. In this case, the 'other
>> side' isn't the proposer of the option, it's me.
>>
>> What I'm hearing is that the CoC
On December 12, 2019 3:01:26 PM UTC, Sam Hartman wrote:
>> "Scott" == Scott Kitterman writes:
>
>
>Scott> I think you reinforce my original point. In this case, the
>Scott> 'other side' isn't the proposer of the option, it's me.
>
>Scott> What I'm hearing is that the CoC
On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 03:21:09PM +0100, Gerardo Ballabio wrote:
[...]
> Anyway, thank you for clarifying that using people's preferred
> pronouns is a requisite for being welcome in Debian. As I read them,
> neither the CoC nor the Diversity Statement are explicit on that.
> Maybe it would be
On 15614 March 1977, Gerardo Ballabio wrote:
Anyway, thank you for clarifying that using people's preferred
pronouns is a requisite for being welcome in Debian. As I read them,
neither the CoC nor the Diversity Statement are explicit on that.
Maybe it would be useful to make it explicit?
They
> "Scott" == Scott Kitterman writes:
Scott> I think you reinforce my original point. In this case, the
Scott> 'other side' isn't the proposer of the option, it's me.
Scott> What I'm hearing is that the CoC isn't for people like me
Scott> because you are completely
Scott Kitterman writes ("Re: Some thoughts about Diversity and the CoC"):
> I think you reinforce my original point. In this case, the 'other
> side' isn't the proposer of the option, it's me.
>
> What I'm hearing is that the CoC isn't for people like me because
> you are completely dismissive
(I see that because of my mistake, this thread continued on both
-project and -vote. If you think it's better to restrict it to either
list, please say so.)
Hello Sam and others,
I did not want to derail the discussion. As I wrote, I made those
examples because I believed that they would help
On December 12, 2019 12:23:21 PM UTC, Sam Hartman wrote:
>> "Scott" == Scott Kitterman writes:
>
> Scott> TLDR: Words have meanings and I find it deeply offensive when
>Scott> one group tries to hijack them for their own ends. This
>Scott> entire discussion makes me less
> "Sam" == Sam Hartman writes:
Sam> In adopting the Diversity Statement and the Code of Conduct
Sam> we've committed to welcoming people to the project regardless
Sam> of how they identify the project.
Sigh.
This should have been regardless of how they identify themselves.
> "Gerardo" == Gerardo Ballabio writes:
Gerardo, somehow you've taken the discussion from terms used in Debian
elections to abortion politics and use of people's preferred pronouns.
You could have found examples from within a Debian context. They were
right there: diversity and its use in
> "Scott" == Scott Kitterman writes:
Scott> TLDR: Words have meanings and I find it deeply offensive when
Scott> one group tries to hijack them for their own ends. This
Scott> entire discussion makes me less comfortable with
Scott> participating in Debian.
I agree that
Sorry, I just realized I sent this to the wrong list. It was for
-vote actually.
Gerardo
Il giorno gio 12 dic 2019 alle ore 11:22 Gerardo Ballabio
ha scritto:
>
> Sam, thank you very much for raising this issue and for recognizing
> that there's more than one angle to it.
>
> I tend to agree
On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 02:51:37AM +, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> TLDR: Words have meanings and I find it deeply offensive when one group tries
> to hijack them for their own ends. This entire discussion makes me less
> comfortable with participating in Debian.
I have to support Scott here.
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