Re: What does FD Mean

2021-04-12 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 11:27:28PM +0200, Timo Röhling wrote: > * Adrian Bunk [2021-04-11 20:53]: > > I am not saying people were stupid. > Okay, that was hyperbolic. But you have to admit that you don't seem to > put much confidence in people's ability (or willingness) to read the > explanations

Re: What does FD Mean

2021-04-12 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Gunnar" == Gunnar Wolf writes: Gunnar> I would not like to remove the expressive option of stating Gunnar> '-' as a synonym to "below all other options". We are in agreement. However, I think Adrian has made a point that there are some non-obvious consequences if you don't fully

Re: What does FD Mean

2021-04-12 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Sam Hartman dijo [Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 06:12:31AM -0400]: > I'd support revising the instructions to recommend that voters rank all > options on the ballot. > > I don't support mandating it. > If someone doesn't rank an option I'd rather accept a ballot than reject > it. > If someone wrote a

Re: Ways forward regarding the RMS GR

2021-04-12 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 02:20:37PM +0200, Ansgar wrote: > Adrian Bunk writes: > > Discussing and voting on a change to the constitution to make all votes > > secret could then be done in 1+1 weeks starting even before the current > > GR ends, followed by a secret vote on a new GR. > > The 1+1

Re: Ways forward regarding the RMS GR

2021-04-12 Thread Ansgar
Adrian Bunk writes: > Discussing and voting on a change to the constitution to make all votes > secret could then be done in 1+1 weeks starting even before the current > GR ends, followed by a secret vote on a new GR. The 1+1 weeks would only start after a proposal was made that no longer needs

+1 (adding voting question to NM templates) Re: What does FD Mean

2021-04-12 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 10:57:27PM +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > I've discussed with another Front Desk member about adding a question on > our voting system in the nm templates. > > The idea being to make sure if people have questions, they get some > answers, and otherwise relevant

Re: Ways forward regarding the RMS GR

2021-04-12 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 12:12:23PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: >... > As for cancelling the vote, I see that as something that's a much more > severe route and that I won't be imposing as DPL. For that to happen > there would have to be significant consensus within the project that > would have

Re: Ways forward regarding the RMS GR

2021-04-12 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Jonathan, Quoting Jonathan Carter (2021-04-12 12:12:23) > Over the course of the last few days, I've received many mails > regarding the RMS GR, both on this list, on debian-private and in > private. These mails contain a wide spectrum of concerns and even > ideas on how to improve our

Re: What does FD Mean

2021-04-12 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Adrian" == Adrian Bunk writes: Adrian> My suggestion would help people to make full use of their Adrian> vote by forcing them to rank all options. Adrian> Equal ranking is still possible, it would not remove your Adrian> freedom to rank any number of options equally. I'd

Ways forward regarding the RMS GR

2021-04-12 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi Debian Developers Over the course of the last few days, I've received many mails regarding the RMS GR, both on this list, on debian-private and in private. These mails contain a wide spectrum of concerns and even ideas on how to improve our situation, each of which come with their own set of

Re: What does FD Mean

2021-04-12 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 11:27:28PM +0200, Timo Röhling wrote: > * Adrian Bunk [2021-04-11 20:53]: >... > > It can be hard to vote correctly in a voting system that is very > > different from what you are used to in real life, unless you are > > a nerd in voting systems. > If you ask me as someone

Re: Making the RMS resolution a Secret Ballot

2021-04-12 Thread Timo Weingärtner
Hi, 11.04.21 09:53 Kurt Roeckx: > I think the best way to make the vote secret is that the DPL makes a > decision. We have a process that can deal with people not agreeing > with that decision. Let's suppose the DPL decides the vote should be secret. Some people might then vote based on the

Re: Making the RMS resolution a Secret Ballot

2021-04-12 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le dimanche, 11 avril 2021, 23.10:53 h CEST Jonathan Wiltshire a écrit : > So I suggest the DPL directs under s5.1 something like: > > "The secretary shall delay publication of the the association between > identify and ballot on the tally sheet, for a period of not more than 90 > days, unless