Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-18 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi Steve, And thanks for your work on this. Steve McIntyre <93...@debian.org> (2022-08-18): > Hi a11! > > I'm proposing to change how we handle non-free firmware in > Debian. I've written about this a few times already this year [1, 2] > and I ran a session on the subject at DebConf [3]. >

Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-18 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hey Timo! On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 10:18:13PM +0300, Timo Lindfors wrote: >On Thu, 18 Aug 2022, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> I'm proposing to change how we handle non-free firmware in >> Debian. I've written about this a few times already this year [1, 2] >> and I ran a session on the subject at

Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-18 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 16594 March 1977, Timo Lindfors wrote: 3) Ensure that the filename of the installation media includes "non-free-firmware" or something similar so that it is clear to everyone what they are getting into. Debian has had such a long history of not including non-free bits in the

Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-18 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 16594 March 1977, Steve McIntyre wrote: = We will include non-free firmware packages from the "non-free-firmware" section of the Debian archive on our official media (installer images and live images). The included firmware binaries will *normally* be enabled

Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-18 Thread Timo Lindfors
On Thu, 18 Aug 2022, Steve McIntyre wrote: I'm proposing to change how we handle non-free firmware in Debian. I've written about this a few times already this year [1, 2] and I ran a session on the subject at DebConf [3]. Thanks for working on this somewhat controversial topic. I haven't

Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-18 Thread Philip Hands
Steve McIntyre <93...@debian.org> writes: > Hi a11! > > I'm proposing to change how we handle non-free firmware in > Debian. I've written about this a few times already this year [1, 2] > and I ran a session on the subject at DebConf [3]. > > TL;DR: The way we deal with (non-free) firmware

Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-18 Thread Timo Röhling
* Steve McIntyre <93...@debian.org> [2022-08-18 20:58]: Hi a11! I'm proposing to change how we handle non-free firmware in Debian. I've written about this a few times already this year [1, 2] and I ran a session on the subject at DebConf [3]. TL;DR: The way we deal with (non-free) firmware in

Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-18 Thread Samuel Henrique
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 To debian-vote on 18/08/22 - Changing how we handle non-free firmware: Seconded, thanks a lot for working on this, Steve! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEBdtqg34QX0sdAsVfu6n6rcz7RwcFAmL+rIEACgkQu6n6rcz7

Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-18 Thread Sebastian Ramacher
On 2022-08-18 20:58:21 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Hi a11! > > I'm proposing to change how we handle non-free firmware in > Debian. I've written about this a few times already this year [1, 2] > and I ran a session on the subject at DebConf [3]. > > TL;DR: The way we deal with (non-free)

Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-18 Thread Louis-Philippe Véronneau
On 2022-08-18 15 h 58, Steve McIntyre wrote: Hi a11! I'm proposing to change how we handle non-free firmware in Debian. I've written about this a few times already this year [1, 2] and I ran a session on the subject at DebConf [3]. TL;DR: The way we deal with (non-free) firmware in Debian

Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-18 Thread Ansgar
Steve McIntyre writes: > Hi a11! > > I'm proposing to change how we handle non-free firmware in > Debian. I've written about this a few times already this year [1, 2] > and I ran a session on the subject at DebConf [3]. > > TL;DR: The way we deal with (non-free) firmware in Debian isn't >

Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-18 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Thu, 2022-08-18 at 22:29 +0200, Tobias Frost wrote: > On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 08:58:21PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > Hi a11! > > > > I'm proposing to change how we handle non-free firmware in > > Debian. I've written about this a few times already this year [1, > > 2] > > and I ran a

Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-18 Thread Tobias Frost
On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 08:58:21PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Hi a11! > > I'm proposing to change how we handle non-free firmware in > Debian. I've written about this a few times already this year [1, 2] > and I ran a session on the subject at DebConf [3]. > > TL;DR: The way we deal with

Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-18 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hi a11! I'm proposing to change how we handle non-free firmware in Debian. I've written about this a few times already this year [1, 2] and I ran a session on the subject at DebConf [3]. TL;DR: The way we deal with (non-free) firmware in Debian isn't great. For a long time we've got away