On Fri, 2022-08-19 at 11:38 -0500, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> openSUSE has this clever system that hooks into zypper (their apt
> equivalent) to install the firmware package on demand if a matching PCI
> ID is found (presumably USB device identifiers too, but I'm not sure).
>
> This could
Hi Ansgar,
On 8/19/22 17:09, Ansgar wrote:
I don't see a difference between having non-free files in the archive
and non-free files on the installation images. If having individual
non-free files was not acceptable then we would have to define the
archive not part of Debian as well.
Yes, and
On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 12:29:42PM +0200, Ansgar wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-08-19 at 12:19 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 08:58:21PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > > system will *also* be configured to use the non-free-firmware
> > > component by default in the apt
On Fri, 2022-08-19 at 16:23 +0200, Simon Richter wrote:
> Do we need to update the Debian Social Contract for that?
> Specifically paragraph 1, which currently reads
>
> Debian will remain 100% free
No. Just like we don't need to update the Debian Social Contract for
having
Hi,
On 8/18/22 21:58, Steve McIntyre wrote:
We will include non-free firmware packages from the
"non-free-firmware" section of the Debian archive on our official
media (installer images and live images). The included firmware
binaries will *normally* be enabled by default where the system
On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 08:58:21PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> So, I propose the following:
>
> =
>
> We will include non-free firmware packages from the
> "non-free-firmware" section of the Debian archive on our official
> media (installer images and live
On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 11:26:51AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Hey Wouter!
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 12:19:55PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> >On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 08:58:21PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> >> system will *also* be configured to use the non-free-firmware
> >> component
Seconded, thanks for mentioning the accessibility aspect!
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 2:59 PM Steve McIntyre <93...@debian.org> wrote:
> Hi a11!
>
> I'm proposing to change how we handle non-free firmware in
> Debian. I've written about this a few times already
Ahoy,
On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 11:20:07AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Hmmm, maybe. To clarify: are you thinking about:
>
> * adding an option to not install the firmware while the installation
>happens; or
> * adding a (boot?) option to not load it once the new system is
>installed
On Fri, 2022-08-19 at 12:19 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 08:58:21PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > system will *also* be configured to use the non-free-firmware
> > component by default in the apt sources.list file.
>
> What's the rationale for this one?
>
> I think
Hey Wouter!
On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 12:19:55PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 08:58:21PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> system will *also* be configured to use the non-free-firmware
>> component by default in the apt sources.list file.
>
>What's the rationale for this
Hi Iain!
On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 10:34:20AM +0100, Iain Lane wrote:
>On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 08:58:21PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> =
>>
>> We will include non-free firmware packages from the
>> "non-free-firmware" section of the Debian archive on our official
On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 08:58:21PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> system will *also* be configured to use the non-free-firmware
> component by default in the apt sources.list file.
What's the rationale for this one?
I think it would make more sense to only configure the system to enable
the
Thanks Steve, it's really great you've taken this topic on, much kudos.
On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 08:58:21PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> =
>
> We will include non-free firmware packages from the
> "non-free-firmware" section of the Debian archive on our official
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