Re: On community and conflicts

2023-03-16 Thread Timo Röhling
* Joerg Jaspert [2023-03-16 16:20]: This seems to come from a point of view that any "wrong thing one may write leads to an exclusion". And that's just so wrong, that even trying to define something here is impossible - and also wrong. That point of view has been insinuated and rebutted often

Re: On community and conflicts

2023-03-16 Thread Russ Allbery
Roberto C. Sánchez writes: > I'm afraid that you miss the point. I specifically chose flat earth, & > co., as a contrast. My position is that we are all adults, capable of > deciding for ourselves and that, absent some behavior that is a clear > violation of the Code of Conduct and/or mailing

Re: On community and conflicts

2023-03-16 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Roberto" == Roberto C Sánchez writes: Roberto> I'm afraid that you miss the point. I specifically chose Roberto> flat earth, & co., as a contrast. My position is that we Roberto> are all adults, capable of deciding for ourselves and that, Roberto> absent some behavior

Re: On community and conflicts

2023-03-16 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 16804 March 1977, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: And yes, if someone manages to go that way with another conspiracy theory that directly affects people like this one did, I do believe the outcome will be the same. The ones you list above are on the comedy side of things. :) You, on the other

Re: On community and conflicts

2023-03-16 Thread Gard Spreemann
Roberto C. Sánchez writes: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 12:29:12PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 07:53:22AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: >> > Can we have a clear statement of what "directly affects people"? >> >> for those having lost people due to covid, hearing

Re: On community and conflicts

2023-03-16 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Marc Haber - 16.03.23, 14:10:04 CET: > Can we please cut the unscientific bullshit from Debian lists? Don't worry, I will just unsubscribe from this list now. I wrote how I feel about (parts of) the Debian community before. No point to repeat an experience that I'd rather not repeat. Whether

Re: On community and conflicts

2023-03-16 Thread Ansgar
On Thu, 2023-03-16 at 07:53 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > I'm afraid that you miss the point.  I specifically chose flat > > earth, > > & co., as a contrast.  My position is that we are all adults, > > capable > > of deciding for ourselves and that, absent some behavior that is a > > clear

Re: On community and conflicts

2023-03-16 Thread Salvo Tomaselli
For those having lost a leg (such as myself, just to name one) because of some careless driver, reading "I went for a run" could be painful. Il giorno gio 16 mar 2023 alle ore 13:29 Holger Levsen ha scritto: > > On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 07:53:22AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > Can we have

Re: On community and conflicts

2023-03-16 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 02:07:15PM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Or those who where injured or killed by COVID-19 vaccines? Can we please cut the unscientific bullshit from Debian lists? Greetings Marc -- - Marc

Re: On community and conflicts

2023-03-16 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Roberto C. Sánchez - 16.03.23, 13:50:26 CET: > Why don't you ask me about the people in my life who have been harmed > by and who I've lost to communist and/or socialist tyranny? Or those who where injured or killed by COVID-19 vaccines? -- Martin

Re: On community and conflicts

2023-03-16 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 12:29:12PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 07:53:22AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > Can we have a clear statement of what "directly affects people"? > > for those having lost people due to covid, hearing someone say > it's a hoax, is

Re: On community and conflicts

2023-03-16 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 07:53:22AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > Can we have a clear statement of what "directly affects people"? for those having lost people due to covid, hearing someone say it's a hoax, is definitly painful. and this affects Debian directly: so far we know about one

Re: On community and conflicts

2023-03-16 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 10:43:53PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 16803 March 1977, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > Yet, would someone posting about the earth being flat, the moon landings > > being faked, or aliens being kept in various secret government > > facilities around the world have