"official" image terminology Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-09-08 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Thu, Sep 08, 2022 at 11:38:09AM +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: > I don't think the word "official" is defined or used in any foundational > document, nor that its meaning is well agreed on or actually helps the > discussion. I had assumed "official" was in more common usage. It seems like

Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-25 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 06:36:36PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 08:18:55AM -0700, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 10:12:48AM +0200, Bart Martens wrote: > > > The Debian project is permitted to make distribution media (insta

Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-25 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 11:00:35PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > That may sound like implementation details to you, but to me those are > the important parts of the change. I'd rather not be in this position, > and I have a lot of sympathy for the people pushing back on the idea > of maybe

Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-25 Thread Ross Vandegrift
Hi Bart, On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 10:12:48AM +0200, Bart Martens wrote: > The Debian project is permitted to make distribution media (installer images > and live images) containing packages from the non-free section of the Debian > archive available for download alongside with the free media in a

Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-24 Thread Ross Vandegrift
Hi Steve, Thanks for this. I have two questions about your proposal. Apologies if these are answered elsewhere already. On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 08:58:21PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > I'm proposing to change how we handle non-free firmware in > Debian. > So, I propose the following: > >

Re: General resolution: Condemn Russian invasion of the Ukraine

2022-04-08 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 10:19:27PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 01:35:14PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > Debian does not exist, legally :-) I'm repeating others, but I think it's important to repeat: This may not be true. At least in the US, existence is a matter of

Re: Question to all candidates: Ongoing/future legal projects

2022-03-18 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 08:23:12AM -0700, Felix Lechner wrote: > On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 5:42 AM Molly dB wrote: > > > > I'd like to hear about where you draw the line between individual > > issues and community wide issues. To use an example of copyright > > claims: Would it be Debian's