Re: Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-03-29 Thread gregor herrmann
On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 11:28:33 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > The reason for asking the question in the first place is because the > statements made by the candidates demand some level of quantification. > What, precisely, is the problem with asking for a quantitative > description of a

Re: New option for the RMS/FSF GR: reaffirm the values of the majority

2021-04-03 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sat, 03 Apr 2021 21:46:08 +0200, Enrico Zini wrote: > Hello, Hm? | -- | GPG key: 4096R/634F4BD1E7AD5568 2009-05-08 Enrico Zini | | [-- End of signed data --] | | [-- PGP output follows (current time: Sun Apr 4 00:09:30 2021) --] | gpg: Signature made Sat Apr 3 21:46:04 2021 CEST | gpg:

Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL?

2021-03-20 Thread gregor herrmann
On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 23:20:58 +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > Leaving out the detail of Debian paying someone for work, this has one more > thing that can backfire hard, as I just could witness in an (entirely > unrelated) org: That those hired ones got more powerful than the actual > leader. Simply

Re: Last minute cominbations G+D and/or G+E

2019-12-05 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 05 Dec 2019 11:59:36 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Here is the formal version of this proposal. (My previous mail wasn't > signed.) Thank you. > Title: Support portability, without blocking progress > > PRINCIPLES > > 1. The Debian project reaffirms its commitment to be the glue that

Re: Last minute cominbations G+D and/or G+E

2019-12-04 Thread gregor herrmann
On Wed, 04 Dec 2019 17:11:49 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > gregor herrmann writes ("Re: Reframing"): > > So yes, for me a combination of options G and D would be (or maybe > > more accurately: would have been ) helpful in finalizing my ranking > > of the options giv

Re: Reframing

2019-12-03 Thread gregor herrmann
On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 12:54:40 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > I have written this mail To people who seconded Guillem's proposal and > to some people from the thread. I would particularly like to hear > your views. > > I am considering making a formal variant of Guillem's proposal, which, > if

Re: Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations

2019-11-30 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sat, 30 Nov 2019 18:46:27 +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > I'm thus proposing the following: > > X< > Title: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple > implementations > > The Debian project reaffirms its commitment to be the glue that binds > and integrates

Re: Proposal: Focus on systemd

2019-11-29 Thread gregor herrmann
On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 18:12:48 -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > I'm trying to figure out if the new proposal is redundant with proposal > C. The text is obviously very different, but I'm trying to figure out > if there are any practical differences. Understand this is not a > criticism of this

Re: Choice Hartmans1a

2019-11-22 Thread gregor herrmann
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 08:01:37 -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > >>>>> "gregor" == gregor herrmann writes: > gregor> This contradicts the spirit, culture, and conventions around > gregor> NMUs which are prevalent in Debian for at least ten years >

Re: Choice Hartmans1a

2019-11-21 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 13:58:09 -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > Choice hartmans1A: Init deversity is Important and NMUable […] > Developers may > perform non-maintainer uploads to fix these bugs. This contradicts the spirit, culture, and conventions around NMUs which are prevalent in Debian for at

Re: GR Proposal: replace "Chairman" with "Chair" throughout the Debian Constitution

2016-07-08 Thread gregor herrmann
On Fri, 08 Jul 2016 15:27:56 +0200, Margarita Manterola wrote: > I'm therefore proposing the following General Resolution: > > === BEGIN GR TEXT === > > Title: Replace "Chairman" with "Chair" throughout the Debian Constitution > > All appearances of the word Chairman shall be replaced with the

Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-10-16 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 19:24:52 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: As Matthew said, I don't think further lengthy discussion of the issues is likely to be productive, and therefore hope we can bring this swiftly to a vote. This is particularly true given the impact on the jessie release.

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-03-07 Thread gregor herrmann
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 11:23:48 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: So, even if this second amendment is accepted by Wouter, I'd rather vote on two options: one where the DPL might change the CoC, and a separate one which requires a GR. Assuming I'm not alone on this --- public feedback welcome ---

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-02-27 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 23:42:47 +1100, Stuart Prescott wrote: To me the strength of the CoC draft we are looking at here is that it doesn't concern itself with trivialities or with specific media. It talks about conduct -- that is behaviour, deportment, how we want people interact as human

Re: [all candidates] Removing or limiting DD rights?

2013-03-26 Thread gregor herrmann
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 18:02:08 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 25/03/13 at 16:22 +, Steve McIntyre wrote: Are we strict enough with our existing contributors? When we're trying to work together as best we can to make the Universal Operating System happen, what could/should we do with

Re: All candidates: Development and technical issues and challenges

2013-03-20 Thread gregor herrmann
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 01:15:58 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: Even the suggestion of a testing removal can evoke negative feelings for those affected (sometimes from those on the sidelines too). A recent example: http://bugs.debian.org/703258 There seems to be a misunderstanding; at least my

Re: mentoring programs in Debian

2013-03-12 Thread gregor herrmann
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:55:42 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: schools/seminars -- Ubuntu does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek - a set of seminars on IRC to teach Ubuntu development. I'm not sure of how useful that is (I've never attended it) and if we should do it

Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project

2012-05-07 Thread gregor herrmann
On Mon, 07 May 2012 20:32:41 +0200, Francesca Ciceri wrote: TEXT TO BE VOTED STARTS HERE The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone. No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as

Re: Draft amendment: Welcome non-packaging contributors as Debian Developers with upload access

2010-09-16 Thread gregor herrmann
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:17:40 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Before pushing it forward as an amendment, I'd like to hear opinions about this: we have had problems with GRs proposing orthogonal options in the past. This amendment proposal discusses two things that are orthogonal (giving full

Re: Q for all candidates: license and copyright requirements

2010-03-25 Thread gregor herrmann
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:27:43 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Salut Charles, Our users, if they want to modify, study, redistribute or use after rebuild our ^^ system, need the source. At no moment these operations involve modifying a RFC

Re: To all candidates: personal mentoring

2010-03-25 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:08:00 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: Still, in your question you're hinting at some earlier mentoring, and I believe that should happen in teams. [..] That is why I like the http://www.debian.org/Teams/ page. Ideally, that can become the welcome place for new

Re: Proposal: Enhance requirements for General resolutions

2009-03-23 Thread gregor herrmann
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:23:06 +, Stephen Gran wrote: While the number of seconds required to start a vote should be nQ, the number of seconds for an amendment should mQ, where m = n/x (x 1). I think that it should be difficult to start a GR, as it's a large time sink for the project as a

Re: I hereby resign as secretary

2008-12-18 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:44:11 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately. I'm sorry to hear about this decision. Although I don't agree with some of your arguments around the current GR, I have respect for you and your work, and I trust you

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-17 Thread gregor herrmann
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:45:54 -0200, Margarita Manterola wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote: If there is sufficient support, we could also scrap the current vote, change our ballot, add options to it, or something, and restart the

Re: call for seconds: on firmware

2008-11-23 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:45:56 -0600, Debian Project Secretary wrote: Since some people have had trouble reading the proposals, I am including a short impact of the proposal list below the proposal. Thanks for listing the consequences of the different choices. In order to make it

Re: On the Debian Maintainers GR

2007-07-26 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:40:29 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: This is exactly what I don't like in the proposal. I think I already said that, but DM is about pet packages, while Debian as a whole is advocating Team work, Alioth, and co-maintenance. Something here feels wrong and fishy. I

Re: On the Debian Maintainers GR

2007-07-26 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:27:12 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: I don't see a contradiction here; on the contrary I can imagine that DMs take some work off the shoulders of DDs in teams. I fail to see how. More pet packages mean more work I was not thinking about those pet packages but about

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal

2007-06-28 Thread gregor herrmann
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:03:22 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: and once Anthony has fixed the proposal so that a DM doesn't automatically get upload rights on all packages where he's currently listed as Maintainer/Uploader (via the mandatory DM-Upload: yes field that only a DD can add), I think

Deficiencies in Debian (was: A question to the Debian community ...)

2007-05-10 Thread gregor herrmann
[cc and reply-to/m-f-t [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 10 May 2007 12:32:26 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: There are other things that *are* signs of fundamental deficiencies in the project, Would you mind to elaborate on this point, I'm really interested in your opinion. Cheers, gregor -- .''`.